Your attitude makes me chuckle hehe. In a good way.

But I can answer your question: they got in this position because they just couldn't fully evolve into the next-gen home console world. Subjectively, they've probably released a few decent games or two apart from MK, but objectively they haven't had many financial winners. I don't mean to be harsh, but they're just not a good company. And nobody can use the "they're small and don't have the big budgets other companies have" excuse. That's bullshit. A small budget doesn't mean you can't have innovation.

It's obvious if it weren't for MK they would've gone down the hatch eons ago. (the fact that the team were pushed to release a new game EACH YEAR showed this).

FUCKING YES

Agreed, MK game without Boon's knowledge and core history of MK=FAIL

But yeah I agree, I want MK to be picked up by another US company that actually knows MK's history unlike a foreign one.


It has to do quite a lot actually, again I was referring to strickly ONLINE people that rip the game who thought MKD and MKA were the greatest MK's or let's just say "better then MKDC" to them gameplay wise. Then if or when I call them out on it, they wind up sucking in MKDC and then say "MKDC sucks compared to previous MK's..."

If you think MKDC has hurt Midway then you're wrong guy, if anything it's helped just because some out there HATE the idea means nothing at this point. Midway has it's struggles now, it's HAD their struggles long before MKDC was even thought of if you have been following themt his whole time like most have even posted in this thread.

As for the 2 mill mark, my mistake it's nearly hitting that mark as we speak or will shortly I should say. Point is it did a hell of a lot better then some people out there thought it would. The pessimistic fans if you will...

And like others have mentioned keep in mind, they're not counting KE sales either.

Abomination MKDC? Umm, I think not. I definitely disagree with ya there. That's your own personal opinion of the game but if that were really true nobody would buy it. I really don't understand how anyone can say the DC label with this game HURT MK when in fact it proved otherwise and helped banked more money then the previous few MK games have/did....

I think too many people at times emphasis way too much on the gore factor sometimes. Either way MK9 WILL be made regardless of the future of Midway and I'm sure MK will survive past this year and past Midway's struggles. I'm counting on it.

Actually, I never said I "hate" those games I just don't prefer them. I'm more of an MK and SF guy honestly. I just prefer fighters with special moves but unlike other people out there I don't say "SC, Tekken and VF or MK suck ass" 24/7 just because It may not be for me. Keep in mind again, I was referring to the players who play online a lot who believed MKD was more fun then MKDC which I can't help but to find a bit laughable. Or the people out there for example who play MKDC, say the gameplay is better then MKD and MKA then say a day later "this game sucks"=makes no sense. That's my point, everyone else especially here I understand is just fanbase related. I think I've played 3 people from this site online since the online forums are dead.

First off, Fuzzy Navel, I know Midway get paid for what the ship--but if the game quits moving in retail stores, it means their paydays are about over. No need to act superior. I'm trying really hard to bite my tongue here... there's just so much I could say about a webmaster of another site posting here instead of his own site...

MKFL, you kinda just hit the nail on the head, in at least one way--the online forums died after DA... at least, they slowed down (and that trend has continued to this day). You might not believe this, but there were hundreds of posters on SEVERAL MK fan sites back then (well, hundreds here and 20 or so on other, but whatever). It really kinda shows that... people don't care as much now as they did then. I honestly blame Deception's roster for the bulk of that, as well as the relatively brief waiting period between DA and D when compared to that of 4 to DA. Sure, they bought each subsequent game (in ever fewer quantities), but when you ditch most of your characters in favor of "hardcore" gamer's favorites (i.e. the series' rejects that have only been in one or two games), you hurt your potential fanbase. People like consistency. If I'm a new fan of a fighting series and the character I always play with disapears, I get upset. Why do you think DOA and most of the rest retain 95% of their roster? Then again, it also grows stale seeing the same people over and over, then there's the all-too-real truth that MK's characters are a LOT easier to master than those in other fighters, so maybe I'm wrong... but I don't think so.

I honestly think MK needs to disappear again for about 5 years or so then come out with a game or two (at least when it comes to legit fighters--Shaolin Monks style games could still be made). This would increase hype and probably give Eyebrows some time to think bout the series' direction... but I still maintain that Boon should be out and a new set of eyes should oversee MK. Don't say without Boon the story will suffer--he knows NOTHING about the story and relies on those around him to get is right, which they seldom do *Frost in the Lin Kuei Temple (MKA), anyone?* Maybe someone new will actually care and try to develop their characters, rather than let most of the remain flat and stereotypical.

In any case, I don't see any way Midway can survive this--even if they get their debts paid, they can't make games, outside of MK and the ocassional gem like Psi Ops (which, in their infinite wisdom, was abandoned as a series). They'll just end up in the same situation. Maybe not now, but soon, the end will come for them.

Well, if you think that people dont care about MK anymore then you are wrong , people dont care about MK Online anymore .Every other forums related to MK is still alive and full of posters .Not to say that MK has the biggest number of fan sites .

Also, I dont think that MK needs new hands .It needs a better company that gives it all it needs such as bigger budjet and longer deadlines .

Boon made the game with Tobias 17 years ago .Tobias left and we can see the diffrence now take out Boon and just see how bad MK will be .

I do agree that Midway even if they survived this struggle .They wont return to what they were but yet again I would see MK die with Midway forever than seeing onother hands pick up the series and ruin it .

So , if Midway survived this .Then I think they should give bigger budjet and bigger care to their games .MK series even being rushed are always interesting to play and to pick thnx only to Boon and his team .Even if Midway died onother company will pick up MK and you will see Boon amongest other important team members working on MK in the other company .

It is really hard not pick men with over 17 years of experience .

You're somewhat right, but posters are far fewer than they once were, even if you combine the posters of every site. Heck, the official MK forums, IGN, and every other fansite board doesn't add up to half the posters we had on MK5.org (MKO's name, back then) back in the day. I didn't mean people don't care about MK anymore, but they certainly don't have as much passion as they used to.

I sincerely disagree about Boon. He's in charge of the roster, when Vogel, as the writer, should be. He doesn't know anything about the storylines, and constantly allows or authorizes contradictions to the canon--just look at the whole mess that Shaolin Monks created. Yes, we owe a lot to Boon for co-creating the series, but that doesn't mean he gets a lifetime contract to make MK games. That goes for Midway, as well. I'd like to see what a AAA company would do with a series like MK--I imagine something great.

I really fear it turnes even worse .
Well Boon is not perfect and he made some mistakes here and there .But the ups of MK are based of his mind .And for me MK’s Ups are more than its down .

I agree the rosters of MKvsDCU and MK:D were total letdown .I really mean , when will Bonn know that people hate Jax ?
Also the stupid characters introduced in MK:D such as Ashrah , Hotaru and the others few ? (save Havik he is awesome )

I see what you're saying JCW, although I will say this. From a fanbase perspective MK forums are far from dead between MKO, MKU, Midway, trmk, total MK and MKblackout in total these sites have probably near to a million+ MK fans not counting GS, GF's or IGN either but you get the point.

Sadly, some fans were turned off due to MK D and MKA's brokenness which I can't blame anyone for being disappointed but to hate MK due to a few games not up to their personal measures I can.

The one thing you'll always find from me is I'll stick with MK thru everything, the ups, downs and mediocre times. Too often over the past few years I've found some "fake MK" fans on here and other sites and that's rather annoying to deal with also.

One day I'll read the same guy ripping MK, then praising it and vice versa...to me is not a real "MK fan" but that's another story.

As far as the online gig is concerned, well speaking of which I've checked every bigtime MK site and honestly MKU is easily the best in terms of best comp. In terms of fanbase, different story...I've noticed that site doesn't seem to know that much concerning the core heart and soul of MK much like this one doesn't know much concerning "gameplay" elements and why MKDC is a very good game honestly.

So you really have the whole "what one lacks another has and vice versa"

When it comes it comes to discussing MK, storyline, characters, MK in general I like coming here, Midway at times.

When it comes to gameplay, mechanics however I go elsewhere.

To sum it up, one key element though why perhaps MK has been 50/50 the previous MK games prior to MKDC is because of the one thing most of us won't admit. The fans. The MK fanbase is so split, disagreeing at times the MK team probably reads and just tries to please everyone as best as possible then when the game comes out, those same fans bitch over shit they wanted in there in the first place. To them it's another failure on Midway's part/MK teams part, to me I see it as a bunch of ungrateful fans however.

Besides, on top of that I already know MKDC is better comp wise and online wise because every night when I go on there's literally hundreds and probably totalling in the thousands of players a day online in the game. I couldn't say the same thing about MK D and MKA however....be lucky if you found 100 people in total in one day on those games. The comparison is quite staggering...

UMK3 also holds it's own with thousands of players online, but that game just owns in general so no surprise there.

Epic should pick the franchise up because think about...Gears of War has amazing graphics and they can make a mk game with a true unreal engine not to say more violent and realistic

Mk vs. DCU was a great game, too bad it didn't sell well. Hopefully Capcom picks up MK, but EA is probably gonna grab it.

Ugghh fuck no.

I mean everyone would turn into CHUNKY STEROID MCFUCK and you though Jax was a stereotype in MK:DA?

And the whole MK Universe gets rendered beautifully in BROWN and GREY.

Huh? lol MKDC sold very well man.

What ever happens, i hope MK will still be in the hands of Ed Boon and his team.MK vs DC had great gameplay mechanics(the best in all mk's imo). It just lacked unlockables, and some more polishing.

If Midway gives up mk into another company, the new company should dedicate a high budget into MK9 and grant the team longer deadline extension dates. I honestly think the next mk game can be something really special.

Did the worldscollide website get taken down? I can't load it, I get a 404 error.

I keep thinking back to when the Tomb Raider franchise was taken out of Core Design's hands and given over to Crystal Dynamics. All the die-hard TR fans thought it was the end of the world then too, but Crystal Dynamics wound up doing a magnificent job with the property and made Lara Croft relevant again. Of course, the creator of the original Tomb Raider, Toby Gard, was brought onto the project but his role was mainly as a creative consultant.

So if Mortal Kombat does get sold off to another company, I won't worry. I'll be very interested to see what someone else can do with the franchise. It sucks for Midway and especially for the MK team, and I'm sorry to see this is what it's come to, but that's the way it goes.

Same thing here.

Can't be costing them that much. It's just a website.

Sux though, I liked how they put that site together. (EDIT: all the other ones are still up, so it must just be a problem with that site)

Ok, I don't understand the point of the "superior" comment, but whatever. I also don't understand what you mean by things you can say about me because I post here. I've been a member here for a long time. I've been, and still am, a member of alot of MK sites. Just because I have my own site, I can't remain a part of the entire MK kommunity?