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mkflegend
07/11/2008 03:22 AM (UTC)
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Scorp's is way better then Sonya's.....but everyone has an opinion, I do agree now that I look at it, I agree with the rest of your post though.
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07/11/2008 04:14 AM (UTC)
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WarriorPrincess Wrote:
This side by side comparison proves that they did not pay attention to the little details. My image is on the left and midways is on the right. Do you see the difference enlarging her head makes? midways render of Sonya is so out of proportion its ridiculous. No ones head is that small with a body that big.



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Sonya's over all design is awesome, but in all seriousness they need to go back to the drawing board and make this render over. Fix her hard face, and make her body proportional.


Hmmmm, I honestly don’t see such problem, but Im not saying you couldn’t be right. Its just that I think the one with your head looks waaay too big for her body. ?

I do agree however, that they didn’t pay attention to the details.

How very sad.

I really hope they listen to the fans, and redo this render.

They really really must.

With that said: BEST-SONYA-EVER! grin

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Dude, I simply cant understand why you never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever want to agree with anyone.

No one is bashing MK vs DC, we are just criticizing the obvious. Those things you call minor details and stuff...are-not-minor.

Mk has to be up there with the huge competition in everything. "Just because its a render" doesnt mean its not as important, because man, thats work, and its art.

I 100% agree with you this is a great render, but its not as great as it SHOULD be, and that’s sad.

DONT GET ME WRONG! While I do found the "Flash lips" thing stupid, people actually HAVE very valid reasons to complain about this render, and the team should hear the fans.

I would be on your sideif only 2 or 3 or 4 people said all thats been said about this renders mistakes, but man, have you seen around?

And I even read you didnt find anything wrong with the Catwoman render............have you even seen the fingers?

Is that lack of attention minor details? Take a look at her hands.

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Which one looks better? Seriously now.


I’m on your’s, Pred’s and WarriorPrincess side with this overall argument.

But to honestly answer your question, which one looks better?

1.- Going solely by design and look: Sonya.

Honestly, what this babe represents in her overall design is so powerful and strong that not even any single MK chick can top that. Sonya is the closest thing you will get to a “feminist” (yeah, Im aware that not entirely but we don’t see that much, hence the “”) in this game.

I’m with MKF, Sonya all the way in that aspect, but:

2.- Going by the WORK that’s been done:

Obviously Ivy. Everything is in proportion and the details (such as human anatomy, female feminine feature, etc.) are great. Despite she being a super fave of mine, Im not really a fan of the over sexualized thing they do to her and almost all females (and even mk females that should be decent such as Kitana, Sindel, Jade...), but Im with you about the work being correct and not rushed and be realistic.

Despite that, I still think the Sonya render is the best of the lot, and her best as well. In all honesty, I don’t see much thing with the head. Maybe if it were a bit smaller from the edit WP did, maybe that could work.

I just don’t see why MKF cant understand this.

No one is bashing MK vs DC, we are just criticizing the obvious.

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Sonya. Ripped, busty, and looking tough as nails! Not bad, but the face is pretty
damn hardcore. Perhaps I am one of the many who absolutely loved the "Kerri Hoskins" Sonya, and wanted her to forever retain that look lol. I'm happy that Sonya is in the game though.


Absolutely!

Sonya has never looked better imo. But even though she looks pretty in the render, her face should be more feminine and softer, even if she is that angry.

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Wow, all the hating. The original render is by far the best version of Sonya I have ever seen. C'mon, she kicks the asses of extradimensional interlopers for a living, how freaking feminine do you want her to look? Her face is just fine if you ask me, she looks like one kickass broad, without losing one tenth of an ounce of sex appeal. As far as her head goes, I'm calling creative liberties on that one, perhaps some of you have heard of it. It's like when what looks good takes precedence over realism. As far as I'm concerned, the unaltered image on the right looks ten times better than the swollen-headed one on the left. If you want that, play MK4 with big heads mode turned on. Midway's render looks apsolutely fabulous, which is not something you hear from me very often when describing their work on the MK series. All I have to say is don't change a thing on Sonya. Scorpion on the other hand....


Many agree with you actually.

This is her best and she has never looked better. Her in game model looks super feminine and tough at the same time, but the problem is when the artists don’t do their job well by confusing anatomy and giving a female manly such as the chin features.

And I also agree that the render with the bigger head doesn’t look good, but the original render must be changed for the best. Its just...not right.

Even catwoman has that problem but it cant be seen because the googles save her from criticism.

mkflegend Wrote:
Scorp's is way better then Sonya's.....but everyone has an opinion, I do agree now that I look at it, I agree with the rest of your post though.


Scorpions is cool, and I like it.

But in quality, so far the best is Sonya, but its likely that the one of Tsung will be even better. grin
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queve
07/11/2008 04:26 AM (UTC)
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Besides, I think I DO see some five o'clock shadow on our Ms. Blade.


Can you please explain what does this mean? I just dont get it.
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mkflegend
07/11/2008 04:34 AM (UTC)
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I understand perfectly, what more peeps need to understand is that it's not a big deal...

And overall Scorps details are better IMO, we all have our preferences. grin
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07/11/2008 12:50 PM (UTC)
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How good enough do I want them to be? Well, at least as good as the competitors. No, scratch that. I want them better than the competition. I really do want MK to be the best fighting game on the market, but it's not. It's not even the best looking.

I mean, seriously, here is the Sonya render:


Here is a render of Ivy from Soul Calibur IV:


Which one looks better? Seriously now.


LOL Sonya got big boobs..but Ivy's are HUGE!!!! But in overall, Ivy looks better.
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07/11/2008 01:21 PM (UTC)
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I'm going to have to disagree, Ivy just looks horrific in the new game.
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07/11/2008 01:51 PM (UTC)
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well her outfit is questionable but ivy has a MUCH better render.
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wac58
07/11/2008 02:03 PM (UTC)
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whatever kid, u dont know how i roll. so stop masturbating to it and find u some pussy.
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WarriorPrincess
07/11/2008 02:14 PM (UTC)
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That was very rude. Some of you people need to learn some manners or get the hell off the website. There are better ways to get your point across.
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07/11/2008 02:20 PM (UTC)
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That was very rude. Some of you people need to learn some manners or get the hell off the website. There are better ways to get your point across.


Welcome to the Cyber world.
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07/11/2008 03:00 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, get used to the rudeness.


I like Sonya's render better. SC has better graphics, but Ivy's just horrible.
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hahaha....
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07/11/2008 03:32 PM (UTC)
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actually, it's a sad thing that we are used to the rudeness. ( I know, I have very little visits on my account but I have been around a long time before subscribing, so I'm aware of the rude behavior around the MKO forums)

That being said, I just have to get it of my chest: Whats with Sonya's face?? sad. I love this render, but the face of Sonya is just.... REALLY bad! Sonya, perfect outfit, very feminine looking, but the face is a messed piece of work.

Such a pity. It could have been so great!
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07/11/2008 03:35 PM (UTC)
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Reznor85 Wrote:
actually, it's a sad thing that we are used to the rudeness. ( I know, I have very little visits on my account but I have been around a long time before subscribing, so I'm aware of the rude behavior around the MKO forums)

That being said, I just have to get it of my chest: Whats with Sonya's face?? sad. I love this render, but the face of Sonya is just.... REALLY bad! Sonya, perfect outfit, very feminine looking, but the face is a messed piece of work.

Such a pity. It could have been so great!


I think it is just her kombat face. In some of the battle shots she looks fine.
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07/11/2008 05:30 PM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
I like Midway's rendertongue but seriously have you actually tried contacting Midway? If you're serious that is.


I wouldn't mind working for them, but I'm still not qualified yet. I'm all 2d still, I don't know how to make 3d renderings. But if I did, I sure as hell would listen to you guys more!
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mkflegend
07/11/2008 05:56 PM (UTC)
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TheOmniOni Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:
I like Midway's rendertongue but seriously have you actually tried contacting Midway? If you're serious that is.


I wouldn't mind working for them, but I'm still not qualified yet. I'm all 2d still, I don't know how to make 3d renderings. But if I did, I sure as hell would listen to you guys more!


I do like the editing job you did though btw : )

I would love to work for them doing voiceovers, I know I can do it and my natural voice sounds like the MK announcer ha, ha
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wac58
07/12/2008 11:51 AM (UTC)
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yo. hey im just trying to make a point. ya knw. i mean look at this dont you people have anything better to do than analyze the attributions of a female video game character? so what if she looks kind of manish or that ther body is not proportioned. some people even complain that her chest is too big. wtf? people need to get it straight. it's just a vidoe game character. that's all, make believe. why don't yall learn how to do differential equations or physics 2. too many nerds in this site waster their time looking at a sonya picture and giving a fcuk about too many details.


Please put a leash on your descriptive prose. If Christopher Marlowe himself wouldn't be allowed to write that here, then neither are you my good sir. And this is not a request.

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WarriorPrincess
07/13/2008 09:29 PM (UTC)
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Ok wac58, you seriously need to get over yourself. Everyone here has the right to express their opinions of the released promotional renders. It's called "feedback" for a reason. And quite frankly I find you very disrespectful. You have some nerve to sit there and call half the people on this forum nerds. I don't know who died and made you the King Shit, but that post was not needed.
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"Retirement my ass!"

07/13/2008 10:45 PM (UTC)
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Wow...wow Approaching 300 replies?

Sonya = Miss Popularity 2008 tongue





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wac58
07/14/2008 05:48 AM (UTC)
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whatever female. you need to be back in your leash and stay put.
yeesh is it that time of the month for you.if we did meet it wouldnt be face to face it would be face to. di**... well you get the idea. holla be-atch.
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WarriorPrincess
07/14/2008 05:51 AM (UTC)
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Thanks for responding and further proving your idiocy. Pathetic much?
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mkflegend
07/15/2008 06:47 PM (UTC)
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TomTaz Wrote:
Wow...wow Approaching 300 replies?

Sonya = Miss Popularity 2008 tongue







More like Miss. Overrated...2008 lol

@WP, don't sweat this Wac kid...most likely a 10 year old anyway that will get himself banned if he keeps up that shit.sleep
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