Avatar
queve
07/09/2008 08:43 PM (UTC)
0
Garlador Wrote:
Wonder Woman has been described as the "most beautiful woman in the DC universe"... so, er, MK team, better step up your game.


Its really going to suck when they make the other females look super feminine and super girly because its going to prove they COULD had given Sonya a more face feminine.

Again, I adore the new render and Sonya has never looked her best imo, specially because of the amazing hair...but seriously, the strong jaw and that should had been made more feminine.

Thank God her in-game model is superb...I hope no female looks like Kira and Sareena did in the in-game models of MKD and MKA.
Avatar
queve
07/09/2008 08:49 PM (UTC)
0
Riyakou Wrote:
How about we compare them all?


So, who looks feminine, and who looks manly?




Sonya looks beautiful in all those pics you posted of her.

And what I think you tried to do is not fair considering Sonya looks specially beautiful in her:

MKDA vs screen.
CD Universe in-game model.
Bridgtte Wilson
MK3 Kerri Hoskins Sonya
etc
etc

And if you really wanted ugly pictures of Wonderwoman, Chun Li and Kitana (like her MKDA alt render) you could had added them as well.

The only one, that imo, looks anything close to manly (talking about Sonyas face) is the one of MKSM. Thats it.

The new one, though she has strong features and should had looked more feminine, looks very good and sexy.
Avatar
.
07/09/2008 08:56 PM (UTC)
0
queve Wrote:


And if you really wanted ugly pictures of Wonderwoman, Chun Li and Kitana (like her MKDA alt render) you could had added them as well.



I was in no way trying to make Wonder Woman look ugly.

I would never do such a thing. I was just trying to show you that manliness only works for certain people. The greatest example would be Sheeva, and she's hot!





You see? Ass-kicking. It works for Wonder Woman too.

Sonya's previous looks were my way of showing how she should look. That's all.
Avatar
queve
07/09/2008 09:05 PM (UTC)
0
Riyakou Wrote:
queve Wrote:


And if you really wanted ugly pictures of Wonderwoman, Chun Li and Kitana (like her MKDA alt render) you could had added them as well.



I was in no way trying to make Wonder Woman look ugly.

I would never do such a thing. I was just trying to show you that manliness only works for certain people. The greatest example would be Sheeva, and she's hot!

You see? Ass-kicking. It works for Wonder Woman too.

Sonya's previous looks were my way of showing how she should look. That's all.


Oh, then I get your point. grin

And yeah! I also agre with it. To me, Sonya's always looked beautiful and tough. The ONLY game I think they really screwed her face was in MKSM, but despite my love for this new render (because this Sonya and in-game Sonya look the best of all), I find it annoying that they crossed the line making her look so angry that forgot that she must also look feminine.

I love it she's the only female that look serious, but they should-had-made-her-more-feminine at it would had been perfect.

Still, I find it an exaggeration to call her a tranny because we've finally got a chick who looks tough and deadly and not delicate.
Avatar
Garlador
07/09/2008 09:08 PM (UTC)
0
Well, here's what I think:



This is Kerri Hoskins. This woman IS Sonya Blade, more so than any other actress in the movies, cartoons, or even some of the games.

Now, not only is she one of the most beautiful women my eyes have had the pleasure of looking upon, but she's a kick-ass babe as well (and also a remarkable mother).

So, anyway, she set the standard, raised the bar for Sonya's likeness in the games... and, IMO, she has yet to be topped by this:
Avatar
.
07/09/2008 09:10 PM (UTC)
0
queve Wrote:


Still, I find it an exaggeration to call her a tranny because we've finally got a chick who looks tough and deadly and not delicate.


Mileena has always looked tough and deadly; it's just that her boobs always get in the way.

Nitara also looks tough and deadly, VERY tough and deadly.
Avatar
Ninja_Mime
07/09/2008 09:15 PM (UTC)
0
You guys are discussing how "sexy" a CGI creation is? lolz
Avatar
Garlador
07/09/2008 09:19 PM (UTC)
0
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
You guys are discussing how "sexy" a CGI creation is? lolz


Beauty, even simulated and artificial, is still attractive and alluring. The Greeks built statues of Venus and tried to capture her "sexiness". The story of Pygmalion is a testament to the beauty of "articial" creations.

And yet Sonya is a character that was once portrayed by a real human being... and I find her QUITE attractive.
Avatar
queve
07/09/2008 09:35 PM (UTC)
0
Riyakou Wrote:
queve Wrote:


Still, I find it an exaggeration to call her a tranny because we've finally got a chick who looks tough and deadly and not delicate.


Mileena has always looked tough and deadly; it's just that her boobs always get in the way.

Nitara also looks tough and deadly, VERY tough and deadly.


Tough?

I can buy Mileena deadly, but not even close to tough as Sonya.

But not Nitara. If anything, Nitara and Mileena both look extremely seductive, even mysterious and like manipulators.

Like mysterious seductresses , both of them, but not tough (but Im not saying they arent tough because they obviously are, just in case). Theres a difference.

Garlador Wrote:
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
You guys are discussing how "sexy" a CGI creation is? lolz


Beauty, even simulated and artificial, is still attractive and alluring. The Greeks built statues of Venus and tried to capture her "sexiness". The story of Pygmalion is a testament to the beauty of "articial" creations.

And yet Sonya is a character that was once portrayed by a real human being... and I find her QUITE attractive.


Well said.
Avatar
Kamionero
07/09/2008 09:45 PM (UTC)
0
lol she looks like a tranny!!!

and whats the deal w those fucking thong-tan lines!??!!?
Avatar
ThePredator151
Avatar
About Me
The Ultimate Mortal Kombat Experience
- Lead Graphic Designer - Mortal Kombat Online -


:G-play

:Story

:F-Design

:Cutout

:Get Sig

:Raiden

:Fans [1] [2]

:#LegendaryArts

07/09/2008 09:45 PM (UTC)
0
Mmm...Kerri Hoskins...

Garlador is exactly right. And in my opinion, if whatever they deviate to doesn't work, the Keri Hoskins face model should always be the save for a Sonya design. Always.

I mean, I'm looking at this render, and there are some things that might depend. Like the angle, and direction she's looking in. Maybe the nose is close to Keri's....but it's too much of a stretch to be factual assessment.

In the next "MK only" game that Sonya is in, Keri is the way to go. Everything else can stick around add the ponytail maybe...really.
Avatar
queve
07/09/2008 09:58 PM (UTC)
0
ThePredator151 Wrote:
Mmm...Kerri Hoskins...

Garlador is exactly right. And in my opinion, if whatever they deviate to doesn't work, the Keri Hoskins face model should always be the save for a Sonya design. Always.

I mean, I'm looking at this render, and there are some things that might depend. Like the angle, and direction she's looking in. Maybe the nose is close to Keri's....but it's too much of a stretch to be factual assessment.

In the next "MK only" game that Sonya is in, Keri is the way to go. Everything else can stick around add the ponytail maybe...really.


I love Kerri, but if they are going to model her from an already known MK actress, I say Bridgtte Wilson and Sandra Hess are better. I love those two.

I really love the new Sonya render, it would had been perfect with her having a softer face, but aside from that, even with the not so feminine features they gave her, she looks tough, pretty, very awesome, and cool. grin
Avatar
Leo
Avatar
About Me

07/09/2008 10:08 PM (UTC)
0
JustinRex Wrote:


Yeah, that's also a nice edit. The ponytail hair looks a bit off, but you did a good job making her more feminine, closer to what she's SUPPOSED to look like since the 2D games.

Garlador Wrote:
Well, here's what I think:



This is Kerri Hoskins. This woman IS Sonya Blade, more so than any other actress in the movies, cartoons, or even some of the games.

Now, not only is she one of the most beautiful women my eyes have had the pleasure of looking upon, but she's a kick-ass babe as well (and also a remarkable mother).

So, anyway, she set the standard, raised the bar for Sonya's likeness in the games... and, IMO, she has yet to be topped by this:


Completely right. Every fan I've always met agrees that Kerri Hoskins pretty much IS Sonya Blade, and what Sonya is supposed to look like.

I think the problem here are the artists at Midway, you know? I think they hired people that are so used to making men that they're quick to fuck up every female character in the game. Like someone said, they've been making manly-looking women since MKDA, I mean if you look at MKDA Kitana or MKDA Nitara, they look so masculine it's disturbing, Sonya actually wasn't one of the worst in that game. They should've THEN realized that they were completely destroying the female renders and put in some more effort in the future, but no, and as a result, here we have the first female of the new game being smacked right in the face with utmost injustice. It's fucking annoying for MK fans, and it's REALLY fucking annoying for Sonya fans.

And another thing! I'm starting to fear that they will go the MKA route and put in the faces of the characters' from their render in the selection screen! What if they go and put this Sonya face in the select screen instead of her beautiful in-game face? Who the fuck is gonna wanna play as her? Oh God, please let them see all this negativity and do something about it!

Finally, you guys have to all realize that THIS ISN'T SONYA!

Some people here are talking as if Sonya's always looked like this! Now, I don't know if some people are just hopelessly trying to get some funny points by making up offbeat trans-gender jokes or what, but the fact of the matter is that one mistake in a render artist's part doesn't determine almost a decade of MK history, alright?

Kinetic Wrote:
She can kick any of our asses. And you're arguing that she should be hotter? Look, if Ed Boon thought that she should be hot, he'd have said "make her hotter." He and John Tobias created the character, and Ed has the right to decide what direction she takes.


But Kinetic, if Boon really "allowed" the Sonya render to look like this, why did he have her be so gorgeous in-game? The Sonya in the render and the Sonya in the game are two complete opposites! To me, this smells like half-finished work, the same disease that plagued MK:A. It just seems like they didn't really wanna bother with these renders much, so they melted Sonya's face and left make-up on Flash.

Sonya can kick all of our asses, she is tough, destructive, strong, all that. But while this is true, I think many would agree that Sonya was put into MK also as the token sex symbol that most fighting games have (thus the gorgeous Kerri Hoskins who set the standard of what Sonya is supposed to look like). It's like Nina in Tekken or Chun-Li in Street Fighter: kick-ass women strong enough to kick many guys' asses, but still look good doing it as to remain true to their more subtle purpose.

Anyway, I approve everything they've done with Sonya for the new game and couldn't be happier about it, but I'm not gonna pretend to accept the horrible job they did on her face in this render. I know a render's not supposed to be of much importance, but dammit, a lot of non-fans of MK are gonna look at these renders, a lot of people who haven't seen the earlier Sonyas, and they're instantly gonna remember her as the neck-down beauty of the game -_-' And heaven help the MK Team if they use this render for anything in-game... heaven help them.

Avatar
Token
Avatar
About Me

<img src="http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k282/braindude/BadMansearlylife4.png?t=1215548862"

Ma UweChube Channelle

07/09/2008 10:13 PM (UTC)
0
Kerri Hoskins was a lovely looking women and definitely the best Sonya. The only cg Sonya that looked good to me was the MK4 one.
Avatar
TheAdder
07/09/2008 10:38 PM (UTC)
0
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
You guys are discussing how "sexy" a CGI creation is? lolz


Despite what you may say, and despite what you may pretend, it is not only totally possible, but perfectly normal, for the human sex drive to respond to art simulating the attractiveness of the opposite sex (or same-sex if you swing that way). This is the same reason you can find images of real women attractive. Anyone who says they can find a picture of a real woman attractive, but not a well made drawing/3D rendering (that doesn't land in the uncanny valley) is either deluding themselves, or just a bald face LIAR=.
Avatar
queve
07/09/2008 10:55 PM (UTC)
0
LeoBrZ81 Wrote:


I think the problem here are the artists at Midway, you know? I think they hired people that are so used to making men that they're quick to fuck up every female character in the game. Like someone said, they've been making manly-looking women since MKDA, I mean if you look at MKDA Kitana or MKDA Nitara, they look so masculine it's disturbing, Sonya actually wasn't one of the worst in that game. They should've THEN realized that they were completely destroying the female renders and put in some more effort in the future


With no offense to the artists...that’s very true.

I don’t think Sonya looks ugly, people like to overreact, she looks very good in this game, but in what I DO agree, is that the features are not as feminine as they SHOULD be, making her too tough to be considered 100% beautiful.

And another thing! I'm starting to fear that they will go the MKA route and put in the faces of the characters' from their render in the selection screen! What if they go and put this Sonya face in the select screen instead of her beautiful in-game face? Who the fuck is gonna wanna play as her? Oh God, please let them see all this negativity and do something about it!


Now, now Leo, you are exaggerating. Its not even close to being that horrible to make people not want to play with her, but I 100% agree that I hope they listen to the fans negative response and do something about it.

Besides, once they see how beautiful and deadly she really is in action, Im sure no one will care about the artists messed up work.

Some people here are talking as if Sonya's always looked like this! Now, I don't know if some people are just hopelessly trying to get some funny points by making up offbeat trans-gender jokes or what, but the fact of the matter is that one mistake in a render artist's part doesn't determine almost a decade of MK history, alright?


Couldn’t had said it better myself.

But Kinetic, if Boon really "allowed" the Sonya render to look like this, why did he have her be so gorgeous in-game? The Sonya in the render and the Sonya in the game are two complete opposites! To me, this smells like half-finished work, the same disease that plagued MK:A. It just seems like they didn't really wanna bother with these renders much, so they melted Sonya's face and left make-up on Flash.


And that’s a huge disappointment actually. This game is supposed to show the great quality potential it holds...it shouldn’t be rushed, at all.

Sonya can kick all of our asses, she is tough, destructive, strong, all that. But while this is true, I think many would agree that Sonya was put into MK also as the token sex symbol that most fighting games have (thus the gorgeous Kerri Hoskins who set the standard of what Sonya is supposed to look like). It's like Nina in Tekken or Chun-Li in Street Fighter: kick-ass women strong enough to kick many guys' asses, but still look good doing it as to remain true to their more subtle purpose.


Exactly.

But like I said, it would be fantastic if they decide to model her from Wilson or Sandra Hess. Those two are simply perfect, just as perfect as Kerri (beautiful woman!) or even more.

Anyway, I approve everything they've done with Sonya for the new game and couldn't be happier about it, but I'm not gonna pretend to accept the horrible job they did on her face in this render. I know a render's not supposed to be of much importance, but dammit, a lot of non-fans of MK are gonna look at these renders, a lot of people who haven't seen the earlier Sonyas, and they're instantly gonna remember her as the neck-down beauty of the game -_-' And heaven help the MK Team if they use this render for anything in-game... heaven help them.


Like I said, when they see her real beauty in-game no one is really going to bother. While I do hope they do something about it, I wouldn’t worry because Sonya has been brought back to life better then ever for this game.

And like someone said, in futures to come, they better pay more attention to the job the artist is doing, or get another artist that can specifically work on the females.
Avatar
Shang_heihachi
Avatar
About Me

<IMG SRC="http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/mpoppa/images/SU.txt"<

07/09/2008 11:39 PM (UTC)
0
Yeah, I know I said what I said about MK vs. DC when it was first announced. My opinion still stands. But I will come out of my self-imposed exile once more to say this:

This is, by far, the sexiest rendering of a female character I have ever seen in a video game, period. Totally digging the outfit, love the tan lines (an I normally hate them, but lets get serious...a thong with a military outfit don't go), really loving the see-through cut-off T (good job on the perky details ;) ).

And seriously, why the f*** is everyone bitching about her face? Something about that hard look is a major turn-on. It's about time they gave Sonya some girl-balls. Makes her look like she's in it to win it, take-no-prisoners beat the ever-loving crap out of her enemies. She can take me down and beat me senseless any day. But I digress...what is the Mortal Kombat fan base if not a bunch of whining, screaming, bitching complainers in the end? Best Sonya ever, hands down. Never liked her in any of the games, but now based on looks alone she actually managed to raise my interest level in this game...and that's coming from me, who condemned the game to Hell when it was announced. Back to exile now so I don't have to see you people whine anymore.

Well done, Boon & Co.
Avatar
Toxik
Avatar
About Me
07/10/2008 01:51 AM (UTC)
0
Unless you are blind, you have to agree that is is one of Sonya's worst render. IF not the worst yet. The reasons were stated in previous post so I'm not gonna bother.
Well, I guess if you have that weird fetish of liking women that have men faces, then you would love this render.
Avatar
mkflegend
07/10/2008 01:59 AM (UTC)
0
Garlador Wrote:
Wonder Woman has been described as the "most beautiful woman in the DC universe"... so, er, MK team, better step up your game.


That's DC's call on any DC character, I'm sure if Midway makes WW look "butch" and DC agrees, that's not Midway's fault lol.

No worries, speaking as how WW is one of those "key female heroes" in the DC universe, I'm sure she'll look good.
Avatar
TheGreatGarfield
07/10/2008 06:59 AM (UTC)
0
Its a nice render. I like that her body looks strong. I wouldn't have used the tight half shirt though. I might have put something armorized maybe for her shoulders and or a cheast plate of sorts, maybe add some army style shirt.
Avatar
Vengeance
07/10/2008 07:11 AM (UTC)
0
Best render so far imo. Compared to her previous renders, she looks more like cold-blooded killer now.
Avatar
queve
07/10/2008 07:28 AM (UTC)
0
Shang_heihachi Wrote:
Yeah, I know I said what I said about MK vs. DC when it was first announced. My opinion still stands. But I will come out of my self-imposed exile once more to say this:

This is, by far, the sexiest rendering of a female character I have ever seen in a video game, period. Totally digging the outfit, love the tan lines (an I normally hate them, but lets get serious...a thong with a military outfit don't go), really loving the see-through cut-off T (good job on the perky details ;) ).


Most definitely.

This is her best render yet, and the best of the lot in quality and beauty. The bad part is, that despite her looking her best (specially in game model for this game), she does have strong features that make her face look too hard.

And seriously, why the f*** is everyone bitching about her face? Something about that hard look is a major turn-on. It's about time they gave Sonya some girl-balls. Makes her look like she's in it to win it, take-no-prisoners beat the ever-loving crap out of her enemies. She can take me down and beat me senseless any day. But I digress...what is the Mortal Kombat fan base if not a bunch of whining, screaming, bitching complainers in the end?


Very true.

People are exaggerating regarding her sexy look, but I do agree that she should had been given more feminine features. It’s a shame really, her in-game render is the perfect Sonya. The best ever.

Best Sonya ever, hands down. Never liked her in any of the games, but now based on looks alone she actually managed to raise my interest level in this game...and that's coming from me, who condemned the game to Hell when it was announced.
Back to exile now so I don't have to see you people whine anymore.

Well done, Boon & Co.


Well said.

Toxik Wrote:
Unless you are blind, you have to agree that is is one of Sonya's worst render. IF not the worst yet. The reasons were stated in previous post so I'm not gonna bother.
Well, I guess if you have that weird fetish of liking women that have men faces, then you would love this render.


But isn’t beauty subjective?

I do 100% agree with the lack of feminine attention in her face (*slaps the mk team*), but its no where close to looking as bad plenty have said.

She looks extremely tough and angry, something that’s very rarely seen witch the chicks renders of MK.

TheGreatGarfield Wrote:
Its a nice render. I like that her body looks strong. I wouldn't have used the tight half shirt though. I might have put something armorized maybe for her shoulders and or a cheast plate of sorts, maybe add some army style shirt.


I think her overall costume is perfect, but it would had been nice+awesome+beautiful to see her pony tail included. It would had looked soooo much better, specially because the hair style is the best we have ever seen.

Vengeance Wrote:
Best render so far imo. Compared to her previous renders, she looks more like cold-blooded killer now.


I 100% agree. grin
Avatar
ThePredator151
Avatar
About Me
The Ultimate Mortal Kombat Experience
- Lead Graphic Designer - Mortal Kombat Online -


:G-play

:Story

:F-Design

:Cutout

:Get Sig

:Raiden

:Fans [1] [2]

:#LegendaryArts

07/10/2008 09:02 AM (UTC)
0
Wow, look at this thread go...

lol

Avatar
Warlady
Avatar
About Me

NTO CULU

07/10/2008 09:46 AM (UTC)
0
She is a false blonde! Look at her eyebrows!
Avatar
WarriorPrincess
07/10/2008 07:18 PM (UTC)
0
This side by side comparison proves that they did not pay attention to the little details. My image is on the left and midways is on the right. Do you see the difference enlarging her head makes? midways render of Sonya is so out of proportion its ridiculous. No ones head is that small with a body that big.



Download on the App StoreGet it on Google Play
© 1998-2024 Shadow Knight Media, LLC. All rights reserved. Read our Privacy Policy.
Mortal Kombat, the dragon logo and all character names are trademarks and copyright of Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.