Code-EM41_25 Wrote:
Only contenders i see that truly fit the category is Soul Calibur 4 and MK vs DC. MKvsDC judging from vids dont look like it is gonna match up to the quality of the likes of SC4 or DOA4 or VF5. so i believe Soul Calibur 4 probably will, and if not probably should because for this year... it is the best.
really i am a MK fanboy, but im not ignorant, naive, or just down right bias when it comes to comparing fighting games. if i dont know too much about a certain fighter then ill probably not talk about it much, but for the most part i play just about every big time fighting game. (i mean REAL fighting games. yeah i like FNR3, but that is a BOXING game, its different. and SSB is a party fighter.) .........
anyways MK vs DC has looked to possibly be the best MK ever gameplay wise, but when you compare the fighting engine and mechanics of SC4 and MKvsDC... from every thing we know of MKvsDC..... SC4 is the clear winner... and really ONLY real flaw in SC4 is too many small arena's which ppl will abuse Ring Outs to cheaply win. and i say cheaply cuz they wouldnt be able to win if it wasnt for that... (mainly those kind of players use a specific handful of chars so if ya spot that type of player at least there are 2 arena's with no RO. but still that is weak.) honestly though if you're playing against another honest player, the whole Ring Outs issue isnt as much of an issue, but still annoying that you gotta worry about it so much when fighting at the smaller arena's which there are a bit of in the game. overall though the game is pretty damn well balanced and the series continues on having the great fighting mechanics and engine it has always had.
MKvsDC now.... well Free Fall Kombat unless toned down or changed in some way, it looks like it could be a big flaw in the game and looks way overpowered. see how it works is that you can punch or kick while on the way down if on top and that makes a special meter go up. half way up you can finish the sequence with a special move, or continue smacking them to fill the meter more. more the meter is filled more damage is ultimately dealt at the bottom of the fall. first off takes off about 3/4ths health if meter is all the way up from a vid i seen. though where the real issue i think is is that the character on the bottom can do nothing till person on top meter is full, then counter them once and then just do nothing and land on them dealing out all the damage to them and not receiving any even after being hit like 6 times in mid air before the counter... Free Fall Kombat = flawed imo.
Klose Kombat im just not sure if i like the idea, but then again it maybe not bad? i dunno i think it is just some thing im not gonna be sure about till i try it.
anyways MKvs.DC still looks to be some what stiff like MKDA-MKA. its hard to judge, but let me just say if it is stiff like MKDA-MKA then that will be a big negative for sure.
um..... wake up game.... for player on ground looks like have just same wakeup game as MKA which i think looks stiff and actually just looks horrible imo. and i dont think it was that great really... but at least it looks like the player still standing will be able to deal more damage while opponent is still on ground which is some thing important... that lil thing not being able to hurt a downed opponent, but they can attack while getting up in Armageddon was horrible.
control scheme... the whole thing using one thing to duck and jump and another to side step... basically knowing this control scheme tells that the engine clearly does not have full 8-way control or let alone say 8-way run...
speaking of run... thats another thing come to think of it MISSING! there doesnt need to be a "Run Button", and really just being able to RUN can fasten the pace of the game for the better. has there been ANY evidence to characters being able to run in this game????
k some thing else... the grab system... well "Klose Kombat" they have described as kind of a interactive grab.... thats what it kinda is but more you actually doing striking moves just way more up close.... from what i understand characters will have a real grab or throw move as well.... but lets take a look at the grab mechanics of DOA4 and SC4... DOA4 has a rather kinda deep grab mechanic id say... some characters just got real basic type of grab moves, but then there are the characters with more advanced grab move that will have like 2-3 parts to doing the whole thing... but then there is the few characters that are more highly advanced just having like a lot more grab moves and also having like best counter moves that are like grab moves. (not sure if that best way to decribe what im trying to talk about, but yeah...)... kool thing though is that the defending player can escape throws like the throw combo's that have 2-3 parts by doing the same thing the offensive playing would have to input..... anyways with SC4 mostly characters just are able to grab a standing opponent no matter what way they facing, but they also got like ground grabs (grab opponent while they are down) and air grabs ect, but these are more character specific kind of grabs. (maybe say some thing like Jax with his air grab in the old games it just a special kind of grab i guess is a way to put it.)
ok to my point about this with MKvsDC.... i think MKvsDC the whole Klose Kombat thing could turn out to be sort of a good substitute for having some thing like DOA4's grab mechanics. i mean in the end they dont really look similar, but in the end they have the same function pretty much. what im talking about is the ability to counter out of the Klose Kombat... but here is where it is really different as well and may possibly be reason for me not using much or not liking that much... it is just a guessing game pretty much when trying to counter. and as for the regular throws... assuming they still have actual throws of their own.... only seen a couple, but they dont really look impressive... and really they just havent shown that their grab/throw mechanic is at least as diverse as the likes of SC4's basic throw/grab mechanics.
basically what i expect from the gameplay when this game is released... from what ive seen... it looks basically like playing a 2D fighter with 3D graphics, but with just 2D mechanics except being able to side step. though control scheme... seems lil weird...
seriously ppl i dont think this game is gonna do any thing better or as good as its comp. sadly i believe thats the truth. im still a loyal fan though... i feel like im part reason why MK is even around still... i mean ive supported no matter what, but wow.... every thing gets old after a while....
That's no post! Its a fucking book! Jk but seriously that has to be one of the longest posts I've seen on any forum.
But anyway, SC4 didn't really do anything to distinguish itself from its predecessors. I'm not sure about this, but I think critics are going to appreciate change in MK more than SC staying the same. However that's because the last 3 games figthing mechanics were no where near as solid as SC's.
Also, MK vs DC has the benefit of "returning to its roots" which seems like something critics have been liking lately.(BC:Rearmed, Mega Man 9) So as long as the core gameplay holds up alright, I think MK vs DCU has a good chance at achieving GOTY. Oh and by the way, I know that it will probably be inferior to other fighting games, I'll be picking it up just because it will probably be fun and its freakin MK. I really don't care if a few characters are slightly unbalanced(Speaking of which, what about YODA in SC 4?), but I don't want my games to be perfect, I just want to have fun while playing them.
