Dave, this is not a challenge to see where your alliance lies. I really couldn't care less right now where people choose to post.

I don't dislike MKC and I don't have 'special' ties with MKO. They are both few of other forums I visit to discuss what matters.

HOWEVER, the fact is that the person running the sites I/we visit actually does matter a great deal. Whether or not you would admit to that is up to you. If the integrity of the owner didn't matter, then we wouldn't be here now having this discussion. You would still be at MKC discussing issues that are exclusive to you. But that's not the case now, is it? The fact of the matter is - JTF cannot be trusted! It is as simple as that and it's irrelevant that you think he's a fair dude. And if he owns the site again, this occurrence would only be one of many iterations of similar events.

So until Fly and others find a way to create something similar to MKC without JTF's influence then there isn't much you can really do but to post wherever your friend are; And for now, that place is MKO!

Trax

From Bobby Blaze:

" Well, since people are signing up already I will explain a little about whats going on. After MKC was shut down Gerchap and I decided to start a new MK site for the online community - Mortal Kombat United. Gerchap took care of all the fees and I have been working on getting this site up all day. As you can see it's a work in progress and probably wont be completed for a few days yet at least. In the mean time I was wondering if anyone has any input on the color scheme or other ideas for the site? Right now I am going for a black background as that is what everyone seems to like. I am also looking into getting a custom mk themed graphic pack for the entire site. Many changes will be happening within the next few days, and the site is going to take awhile to be complete so be patient. Let me know if there are any technical issues with the forum software and I will look into them. Thanks."

Look, I'm all for your little crusade because we all know JTF and his petty little e-hatred of MKO, but you can't advertise on the site. Use the PM system or your own sig space to advertise, and I won't twist your balls. Deal?

wow so much silly drama. LOLOL sucks that MKC is closed over a silly fight. what ever happenes please pm me.

I sent u a pm bro

Here is one of the main reasons why ALL of the PAL players stay away from MKC:
http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?id=52736
Hope this helped.....

thanx for that informant post ... now i know there's such a thing as too much time on your hand ... i didn't bother reading the 2nd one but yeah the muslim thing is what makes me wanna knock him out ...
anyways people you can hate MKO as much as you want ... ALL THIS SITE NEEDS IS A SHOUT BOX ... i will check your new site out ...

Holy smokes! DelPrev, I had never seen that page until now. MAN!

I hope this is over now though. I really hope this is the end of it all.

It's official...he's nuts... O_O

-edit nevermind, actually read the other posts.

RE: MKC down ... hahaha

KARATE Wrote:
lol at you all seeing how JTF really is.



OWNED!



I love being right.


Come on, man. You, supporting this Web site and its people, have no right to criticise JTF and his Web site. I have seen the ways people do business on here, and that is why I have visited MKO maybe ten times ever since I signed onto MKC.

With that said, I disagree with JTF closing his Web site but the fact is that a lot of you are completely disrespectful and act immaturely seven days a week. You believe you can do whatever you want because of the Web site's limited rules.

I will tell you why I have never gotten any personal warnings from JTF even though I was the one who:

1. falsely accused his Web site of reading people's private messages

2. enganged in flame wars almost every day with ARCADE

3. criticised his decision of permenantly banning Check (back then) and permenantly banning Reo (last week)

4. criticised his ways of sometimes taking gameplay online to personal levels

I have said all of this to JTF's face yet you never see us fight to the extent some of you fight with him. That is because most fights can be solved when you argue them like an adult, and not like a stubborn 12 year old child.

---

JTF, if you are reading this, re-open MKC immediately while you still can. Do not let one user get to you. A lot of people (Wiidoshi, Gerchap, Bobby, etc.), and especially you, have worked hard to make MKC a success. Lately, I felt like MKC has put itself in a great position for the upcoming MK Vs. DC. You still have a base. Do not ruin yourself, and most importantly, do not ruin the Web site that was created for the real players in this community.

~m2dave

Wow I could'ent agree more with you dave on this matter of lol well dam poltics. "Dave your on fire arnt ya man LOL." I read all the posts pratically from scratch and I was just astonished at the lengths peope show who they really are, its true knowlege is power people and that everyone's true side comes out sometime "Salutes rippa and azura for there good character.." but what dave is saying "if you have an ear" you should really look over twice I think. I too like dave dont believe that "well lol other than flame argumants with arcade rofl.." "Shout out to karate as well saw that shit believe it or not!." That you almost have to have a code of ethics when do anything or really are technically no rules of conduct when you do anything in life. I know it sounds contradicting but wise people ussually speak in parbells for a reason. Anywho just I hope gets resolved I would support anyone who represents a peaceful alternative take care of yourselves and eachother...

Stay real yours truly,
Vussy "ya thats me LOL"

Incase some of you didn't bother to read what DelPrev has posted...

Here it is:

READ IT. Understand what a psycho he is!!!!!!!!!



Hi everyone,

I know that threads directed at users of this site are not allowed, but I think this story may have relevance to other people too. People that play games online, people who know me, and especially the people who know the people involved.

There is something I want to share here with all of you. I know that the PS2 and XBOX tournament forum are probably the least liked parts of this site, for good reason. The amount of flaming that goes on there is enormous, and half of the users there are completely immature. A notorious figure among these is JTF, a British player of MKD on PS2. To cut a long story short: he's constantly been a notorious pain in the ass to everyone, and been banned at least under ten different accounts for harrassing other users. Now I unfortunately allowed him to participate un a tournament I had set up. He advanced into the second round and lost to TGrant. He claimed that he lost unjustly, and when I refused to give in to his demands, he sent me this to my mail address:


JTF:

Hello J.J.N. Meuleman,

Have a look at this link, read the whole page and come back....

http://www.geocities.com/euchildwatch/

I decided a few weeks ago after the way you behaved on the board towards me that you needed to be taught a lesson. You sought to make me out to be something I am not. And I thought I would return the favour.

But then you came up with the tournament idea and I held back. I thought I would give you a chance to redeem yourself and you came so close - but you blew it...

Did I tell you I was a web programmer? Anyway, the page is just an example. I am going to change the URL to one you don't know about. Then I'm going to use my web skills to optimise the site for the search engines. In 3-6 weeks, I'll have it picked up by Google, Yahoo, MSN etc and that photo and your name will become associated with a vicious evil child rapist all over the world.

I will also post the link on every message board and child care website I can find, especially those from Belgium.

Of course, not everyone will believe it, but if 1 in 10 do then there will still be thousands of people all over the world who know you for what (they think) you are....

Just think, all over the Internet, that photo will pop up whenever anyone searches for known paedophiles in Belgium or Europe...

But that's just the start...

See, I knew where you were from - Merelbeke and what university you went to but I didn't know your name. Then, a stroke of luck - you started emailing me and now I know your name.

And I also have a very good friend who not only lives in Gent but is an administrator at....you guessed it - the 'Universiteit Gent'.

She's on holiday now but when she gets back she's promised me that she will be able to find your home address and telephone number on the computer and give it to me. (I told her you were an old friend and I wanted to make a surprise visit).

I'm guessing this is your parents' address, VQ. I heard that your parents are scientists who perform vivisection on helpless animals. I wonder how those militant animal liberation people would feel if I posted your details on one of their websites?

I also hear your parents are Muslim, VQ and may possibly have something to do with waging war against the West. There must be plenty of right wing nuts far worse than the Vlaams Blok who would be keen to get your address and phone number.

There are endless possibilites....

Anyway, did I mention that my friend has invited me to come and stay with her any time I like? I would so love to come to Belgium, VQ. I need a holiday and Belgium sounds so pretty. I wonder where exactly in Merelbeke you're from?

Bottelare? Lemberge? Melsen? Merelbeke proper? Munte? Schelderode?

Anyway, we could meet up, have a drink, eat some chocolates....and you could show me whether life imitates art, and fair, skilled fighters can beat dirty, unfair fighters in real life...

Then I could pay a visit to your university and hand out a few leaflets - I thought a cut down copy of the webpage would look nice - warn people about you. I wonder if I'd meet anyone who knew you?

As things stand at the moment, none of this has happened. No one knows about the page, no details have been posted anywhere and although I will be visiting Gent in the near future to see my friend I have made no plans yet to visit Merelbeke or your university.

I am prepared to take down the page, destroy it, forget you ever existed and ensure you never hear from me again providing you do 3 or 4 small things for me.

If you want to know what they are, reply to this email and let me know.

If I don't hear from you, I will assume you are attempting to call my bluff or you are not interested and I will go ahead with my plan to make you and your family famous....

And after you read this email I shan't be sending you IMs on the MKO site any more so be sure to keep checking your email...

It's ironic, when you think about it - that your post that started all of this was called 'Sweet Revenge' because that is what I am going to have now with you, VQ.

Guess you could say I'm a real Smeerlap....

JTF Kobra


Did you think that was insane? Trying to destroy someone's life and reputation over a video game?

It gets better. Of course, I reported him (and his IP addresses and everything) to the local cyber crime unit for blackmail and slander, closed down my old e-mail address (except for archive purposes because this is obviously evidence) and told him that if he'd ever hear from me again, it'd be in a court room.

He found a way once more around his ban on MKO and sent me the following message:


JTF:
Poor scared VQ... I got your email. It made me laugh. I thought I would save you some time and explain why there is nothing you can do to me. Firstly, you have no idea who I am or where I live or what my real IP address is. Trust me.

Secondly, I promise you that the Gent police cybersquad are not going to be knocking down my door any day soon. Even if they could somehow find me, you really think they are going to spend the time and money mounting an international investigation to sort out a quarrel between two video game players?! LMFAO!

You have no hope of finding me, no hope of prosecuting me and no hope of taking me to court.

But I can find you, VQ. And there is no law in looking up an old friend, is there?

It is the rest of your family I feel sorry for, VQ. I am sure they would not be too happy to learn their name and address and phone number were put on some of the most vile Internet sites on the web because you would rather have your friend cheat at a video game than replay one match.

Give it a few weeks or months at the most and start looking for your name and your picture in the search engines, VQ.

This never should have happened but you made it happen and now the next few months and years are going to be the worst of your life. Be wary of every knock on the door, every ring on the phone, every guy that looks at you funny in the street. And tell your parents and brother to do the same.

I hope TGrant appreciates what you are doing for him. Maybe next time you make a tournament you should be a little clearer on the rules...

I am going to do EVERYTHING I mentioned in my email to the letter.

This is going to be an experience for both of us, VQ. But not a new one for me...

JTF Kobra


Clearly this guy is insane. I half expect him to pop up in this thread continuing this shit. So, now you know what it's like to be stalked and harrassed by a true psychopath. And if I ought to believe him, it's not the first time he's doing this to someone.

Zit-faced rage? Think again. According to rumours this guy is actually about 30 years old.

So, in the near future you may or may not see my picture or data associated with child rapists and the scum of the earth. But if you do, it's thanks to this pathetic excuse for a human being. He should be locked up in a mental institution.

Cheers,
VQ

Its probably a little too late for that Dave.

fuck MKC ... MKU it is ... or MKO when i get really bored ... thank u all for contributing to this thread ... and especial thanx to the PAL people for exposing JTF's core from 2005 ... see ya all online till MKDC comes out ... then we'll be all jumping on that.

If JTF would get a Euro for every lie he was telling, he would be a millionaire by now. Its funny but no surprise to see his name come up again( another JTF ScandalLOL)., bcuz its been known since "prehistory" that JTf is as unreliable as playing with hungry/underfed lions. Grrrrr...

Eh dont waste ur time on him..

Bye bye!

hahaha jtf has invaded the ntsc community. I can't believe that there are people who actually believe his crap. Take this advice from ALL the pal users and stay away from him, he's mentally unstable .
Just read Delprev's post above, that says it all..

no worries ... JTF disappeared in the thin E-air ... everybody deserves a 2nd, or 3rd & 4th chance ... but yeah he is definitely unstable. nobody's gonna even deal with him after MKC bullshit.

ANYWAYS ... HAPPY BIRTHDAY "DARK EVE" where u @ girl???

JTF always was and always will be a drama queen. Crys about everything.

http://www.mortalkombatcentral.com/ex.html
MKU deleted this post ... i thought somebody might find this interesting ...

That dude has no shame!

Case closed!

That dude...is straight up troubled in the head...

And funny how quite a few of us got singled out for being scum, trolls, and weirdos, given the weird and shady shit that he's done.

I rarely visit this site anymore, much less play games (or MK for that matter, but that's another story) because I'm constantly on the move with my job, but I feel I ought to chip in here.

Dave, back in the days of MKD I had a lot of respect for you as a player and someone who taught lots of people lots of stuff, but in this case, you are completely, emphatically wrong. Read a few posts back and see for yourself.

LOL ... thanx for the re-vibe ... if you wanna talk to dave check out MKU.