Well Quest I don't know if your joking or not, I hope you are because I felt you were a lot smarter than this. So based on your logic if you don't like a certain type of people because of the religion they practice its okay to bomb them innocent women and children alike?? So if I don't like people who practice the Lutheran faith its okay for me to kill them off?? That's what you're logic is implying to me.

Heyyyyy it's Red, haven't seen him in a while.

Well that's a nobrainer(being a fan of both characters) and both having the "green effect" I'm looking forward to it, aside from that Ermac is just one of the most badass, powerful ninjas in MK so it would make sense for him to be in it.

That's good though that MK is facing DC, you know how I felt. I said the idea if true will be shocking and surprising but if it happens, I'm all for it.(unlike some MK fans on MK sites that hated the idea) I was always for it, plus let's admit DC has been beyond dead in the video game world so they need to be in the spotlight again.

Ohh also Red, I was one of the first that brought up the fact that Boon said no dial ups are going to be in MK8 from teh xbox mag article hehe. I'm curious about that myself.

sounds good

@V1LL1AN, Fujin and Ermac in MK's story are both important so it'll be interesting to see if both make it, I do agree and fee Ermac's chances are greater. Fujin is awesome but unfortunetly not nearly as iconic or popular as others are.

BTW, McCain FTW, Obama gets in, this country will turn to shit!!! He's friends with too many enemies of this country.....Chaos will happen if Obama gets in.

Guys, what's with the "I was first to do this first to that"? You guys want a prize? You Freaks! lol


Quest, any form of war does nothing to improve our world. It's easier for us here in the West to sit and think war is the only out when in actual fact we have no idea what it's like to live in a war zone. Media doesn't help either. They spread the propaganda into making us think we need nukes to make the world a better place.

On global warming being irrelevant; Remember Katrina? What do you think caused that? Sadam?

Hmm, it's really hard to explain this online. I reread what I wrote and I honestly don't like it. Sometimes I have problems conveying my message online. About Katrina though it was the Design Hurricane and our levees broke and the city flooded two days later. It was really a crap situation altogether. Groy no that is not what I mean, it's really not about religion you just asked me what my religion was so I wanted to reply. I do not know how to respond to this correctly. I'm sorry but I will have to back out of my propaganda on this one. If any of you want to mic it up one night and talk I would love to. I really like in depth intellectual conversations.

Quest...

You're talking about the extremists when you made your post, right? That's what I got from it. It didn't seem like you were saying that we should kill people for having a different religion than us. It seemed like you were saying we should get rid of the extremists who want us dead (due to their religion or otherwise).

Yes, Islamic extremists! I have so much to say on this topic I could literally write a paper on this. I pay close attention to foreign affairs, oil, war, treaties, the constant fighting in the Gaza strip etc... Like I said I am just going to back out of this while I don't accidentally cross any lines. I am being misunderstood and as I read back on my posts I didn't even like the way I made myself come out.

I hear you Quest. I still think nukes are short term fix to extremists who are classed as terrorists. Canadian forces are still fighting in Southern Afghanistan but lately, the Taliban seem to be getting stronger. When it comes to extremism, I think it's all about education and countries like Saudi Arabia need to step up and get to the root of the problem.

And Iranians are not exactly what I would class as extremists. Far from it. They don't fit that profile at all. YES, their president can be very vocal and sometimes step out of bounds with statements such as 'wiping out Israel' which makes him a bolo head, I really don't see any need to even start thinking about nuking them.

On global warming... Irregular weather patterns has led to so many catastrophic events e.g. Giant Tsunami, killer hurricanes, floods (as the polar ice caps melts). I used hurricane Katrina as an example because it's something that's close to home. Even though the city defenses were weak the extreme strength of the storm didn't help. However, while it's easy to blame man's activities for global warming, it has always been part of earth's history and lead to the last ice age. I don't know if we're able to reverse this trend, but we definitely need to start paying attention to it instead of engaging in war.

Trax

I don't like war either and I do not like all of these catastrophes that are happening. The oceans waters down here are becoming warmer. I would not be surprised if the Hurricane Corp creates a new level of Hurricanes called Category 6 right now we have 1-5. I hope this does not happen because 5's are like a gigantic tornado :(
Actually Trax education is somewhat of a problem but they have no jobs there. There are literally doctors that just walk around with nothing to do. Some of the best bomb builders are highly sophisticated engineers, now highly sophisticated BOMB Engineers :( Something needs to be done because the Taliban are becoming more powerful. I do believe Iran helps fund them and even shelter them. I do not believe Iran as a whole including its citizens are really aware of this. The president of Iran has to all UN sanctions to take place or bombing will become present. I think this would work in favor of the Iranian president though and saying/proving that the western civilization does not care about people or their religion etc...

Quest - given your knowledge - I would think you would be more skeptical of of someone singing Bomb Iran" and making misleading statements, on multiple occasions, like "Iran is training Al-Qaeda". A wise man once said, never trust a Zookeeper.... if he doesn't know the difference between the animals.


McCain will be a another disaster, much like G Dubalya, who has not demonstrated any diplomacy when dealing with foreign affairs.

All of the current presidential nominations suck hardcore. I don't want any of them to lead us. If I had to choose which I do, I will choose McCain.

hey quest was good bro? u still have access to every porno website? lol.

Im just curious, have u ever seen that video, "loose change"? what do u make of it? anybody else to.

What up my boy. Yeah I can still get into most things. If there is something you like pm me and I'll see what I can do for you.
hmm, loose change? No I haven't seen or even heard of that. Is it worth checking out?

For those who haven't, its more detailed than Fahrenheit 911 produced by M. Moore.

Quest - You notice that mostly everything the media reports, especially Fox News, about Obama is negative? In fact it is either racist, inaccurate, or is based on what someone else said or did. But everyone else, including McCain, only "Misspoke".


What is it about Obama that you dont like? I would like to know.

The people who run Fox news are mostly hardcore Republicans so naturally they're going to discredit Obama not only because he is a black man, but also because he is the democratic candidate. That's one reason why I choose not to watch Fox news because of its overly conservative and racist tendencies.


PS: About the Islamic extremist all I can say is do not believe every single thing you see on television.

Just so you know, not trying to start an argument but stating a true point here you're right Fox is usually right wing or objective with different hosts, however they're also the ONLY network right wing, unlike NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC etc, etc all the others are strickly left wing bigtime. Their choice(Fox people) to go against him is because he's a Dem, not his color.

Some people out there however won't vote for him because of his color, however in saying so there's also people out there that will vote for him for the same reason. I mean, few months ago I couldn't help but laugh to see every single black celebrity "be for Obama"......

I watch your whole political scene from across the border and I have to say McCain doesn't seem to have any new ideas. Most of his policies seem to be based on current Bush's administration which has, to put it bluntly, FAILED the world from all perspectives.

So if given the chance to vote, I think majority of the world would vote Obama and that's not because he's black but because he differentiated himself by not using the same old rhetoric. However, I was pissed about his lack of attention to issues beyond the US boarder when he referred to Prime minister of Canada as the President of Canada in one of the debates but let's face it, GWB was worse when he started out. I think we had a poll in Canada and most Canadians would feel more comfortable with Obama than any of the other candidates.

There you go.( this is coming from someone who does not even live in the U.S. ) Who would want to go back to someone like Bush after what this country has been through better yet what we are going through right now. We need someone who is vibrant, someone who has new ideas and Obama fits that description whether he is black, yellow, or green (@ MKF).

Not to take any shots at foreign countries, but I take what outsiders think of the USA with a grain of salt speaking as how most of the time they're ignorant to our countries policies and every country works differently...you have to realize, foreigners will only see their own point of view, and in this cases not the usa. Well...some, our allies at least have an openmind. We didn't fail from a entire world perspective either the people that hate us or don't agree with us, there are lots of allies that actually do agree with the usa believe it or not. I can go on and on about some negative things about Canada but I won't, no country is perfect but I'd still much rather live here then anywhere else in the world.

I remember when 9/11 first happened, so many people including Democrats(such as Hillary ms. flip-flop) and our "supposed allies" and allies backed us with the war in Iraq and war on terror...then some of them pansyed out and changed their tune.....on what Quest was saying earlier concerning "war" if you ask for it, you'll get it. That's what Osama did, and Saddam asked for with their threats....when you have a president with balls, that shit doesn't happen. So, in this case I totally agree with Bush because if it were Clinton like he did with the 93 WTC bombings(in which he ignored), we would have been attacked again and again and again....plus he ignored Osama which is the reason why 9/11 happened in the first place, those plans took 9 years few sources said at least with the bluprints etc. And who was in at that time? Not Bush....

I can understand if they don't want to get involved in the Iraq war, however I don't and never will understand why some countries choose NOT to continue to go after terrorist organizations. I mean, it's a fact that they're way more of a thread to the world then the us will ever be. I mean, 9/11, attack in Spain, England, France, Africa etc, etc...Canada was also mentioned, but yet to be attacked. Still, for that reason don't think they're invulnerable if the usa got hit on 9/11 Canada won't be much of a challenge(no offense to Canada) just stating a valid point. When it comes to war for example, Canada is afraid to fight flat out. They don't want to get involved in which they're not different then the French(who are always neutral...) One other thing, and I also believe Quest mentioned this partially. On the who "religion thing" first off, Groy earlier you were telling Quest not to bomb or kill innocent people due to a different religion. Right? Well, that goes for radical islamic terrorist groups too you know. Tell that to Osama, not the USA. His reasons are for that very reason if you don't agree with his religion or his ways, then he'll kill you. Did you hear his videos speeches after 9/11? These people are always at war on the other side of the world because they HATE Jews and Christians.....

McCain just so you guys know, he agrees with Bush in SOME topics but has also ripped him, and highly disagreed with him on others. Still, at least McCain is willing to not back down to terrorists like Obama will or threats to the nation or world/our allies. You have to realize, Osama WANTS Obama to get in because he knows our security will be a joke if that happens(not good) especially if you live here in NYC, to not want or be concerned with homeland security is just idiotic flat out. My opinion.

Not to mention, and I know to some people out there they don't care about this but I happen to do. Experience is key, Obama has near to none compared to McCain, he's been around a long time, knows the drill. Obama is just a great talker, typical Dem and is Black. Due to those reasons he's going to get votes as oppose to what he actually stands for. I know some people that will vote for him because of what he stands for but whenever I ask whether on general or otherwise outside of this site, I rarely if ever get a good explanation other then "umm because we need change" well that doesn't tell me much because McCain will offer change as well, so kind of a moot comment.

The only thing McCain and Bush have in common is both are Republicans and both actually care about the nations security and note, another key difference between then is McCain is HIGHLY Moderate while Bush is highly conservative. Big difference btw. And did you know that one of Bush's daughters hates McCain because he ripped Bush for something few months ago.

So, believe me I follow this shit as well and Bush and McCain...aren't as "friendly or agreeable" with each other as people think, but I suppose from a Liberal point of view, that's to be expected.

On the Obama thing, I honestly would have bet any amount of money or anything for that matter if he were white, latino Hillary would have crushed him. This country has never had two things, which is why I think people were all ga, ga over Obama and Hillary initially...A. A women president and B. A black president.

People in this country, well..some will and do vote for people just for those reasons alone which are ultimately stupid IMO. If you're voting for someone because you agree with them politically, fine..but not because you want a black guy or woman in there....really. Same thing with some of the McCain haters, I've read some people don't want him in because "of his age" umm are you kidding me? lol that's one of the most dumbest reasons to not want someone in. Clinton and Bush weren't exactly young....

Another long rambling post. Before you debate with me about politics MKF know your shit. Your previous post you indirectly tried to imply that I'm supporting Obama because of his skin color. Trax hit the nail right on the head when he stated the reason why people are supporting him. Bush wrongfully invaded a country without any valid proof and it turned out that there were no "weapons of mass destruction" as they vehemently claimed that's why he lost the support of so many people. Not to say that Sadaam was a great person and he didn't deserve what was going to happen but we invaded a country on claims based on complete speculation and depose and kill its leader than try to put someone in office to lead that country that is friendly to U.S. policies, now honestly do you think that's right or better yet do you think the people of that country are going to go for that???

You support Bush because you are ignorant and you believe everything he says and everything that you watch on television instead of actually observing the situation as well as your surroundings, and by your surroundings I mean the economy itself.

How do know what Osama wants in terms of next president?

How do you know this guy even exists? I mean I know he does but you speak as though you've met him.

What's with this thinking about Canada being afraid to fight? Why should anyone want to fight? Do you know how much the (false) War in Iraq is costing your country again? It cost each citizen around $1800 per annum. All for what? Just to kill Sadam and destabilize the country in the name of democracy? WHICH by the way is an illusion but that's another topic altogether. I'm proud of the fact that our Canadian government was bold enough to not jump on the bandwagon and never being part of it. And what has Iraq got to do with 9/11? How can you expect to transfer our own culture in the West to the Middle East? It has to come from them not forced upon when they're not ready for it. It is pure arrogance.

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Just to correct you on your theory of Canadian forces being afraid to fight. They are actually playing a major role in Afghanistan. However, most Canadians rightfully want them out because it is a lost battle and again many books have on this subject as in why the West will always fail by thinking we can force our perception of life onto other people. USSR tried it and failed in Afghanistan.

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The world is facing imminent threat from our own greed. Not terrorism. Wall Street has totally lost pattern, Oil is now over $140 a barrel. Yet we sit here to talk about terrorism. That I think is BS (and I say that knowing the impact because I missed that explosion in London by about 10mins). They use it to cause panic and xenophobia and diverting attention away from their inability to government the people. Yes, there are some nut cases who want to blow everyone up but governments pay way too much attention to that minority group of people in the name of national security and protection of our freedom. There's enough intelligence to deal with these threats without making them into headline news which effectively spreads hate.

You go to the UK for example; their government is busy fighting in Iraq and pumping money there while the country is almost on its knees. Morale is low and economy is in a mess.

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On McCain or Obama

Who cares if the dude is black? You think that's why he is now the nominee? Do you think he's the first black man to run for nomination? The answer to that is 'NO'. Therefore, his race has nothing to do with what makes him the electable man that he is.

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I think that's enough for one post. And yeah, turn off the TV guys, it's all regulated good entertainment and like Groy said, never believe everything you see or hear through that medium.

Trax

Thank You Trax good fucking post about the topic. Filled with substance and straight up common sense couldn't have said it better myself. Like he said who even knows that Osama Bin Laden exists?? In the eyes of someone who has intelligence and is truly enlightened he is being used as a scapegoat to distract us from the real truth. At this point and time only a simple minded person would go along with what the media says or what they see on television.

You guys know something that the media or tv doesn't tell you? Where do you get your information?

I do, I suggest you also know your facts concerning politics as well such as networks and which ones cover "which sides" you're already sounding a bit hypocritical with A. your whole telling Quest not to "bomb people that are innocent merely because of a different religion" yet I didn't hear you saying anything concerning Osama when he killed over 3000 people on 9/11.....why's that? Are you some how saying, assuming or believe that what he did was justified? Because it's not. Nobody should bomb anyone innocent. And unlike his people among other radical terrorists/extremists, we don't chop off peoples heads and video tape it and show it to the world if we capture a POW....

Secondly, that's your opinion but if you ask me Saddam was hiding something...otherwise WHY did he procrastinate over 3 months? All we did was ask him to simply allow us to INSPECT and that's it. He refused, procrastinated and threatened us thus he was asking for it. If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear now.

Are you aware of the fact that in that time, he could have easily moved, hid weapons? And we did have reason to believe at the time that he had WOMD actually, and AFTER Osama's threats which Clinton ignored that happened on 9/11, Bush wasn't about to take any chances after Saddam threatened us to "stop asking or else" or else what? I know Dems like taking chances but then you get events such as 9/11 when you gamble and call people a bluff sometimes. So, to get to my point you're saying "we didn't have proof" well we didn't have proof that he didn't have them either....

And in this day in age, you'd as I said before have to be dumb flat out to ignore such threats from people that have had access or weapons before.

Also, just another point that I wish to bring up that you left out. When we liberated that part of Iraq and took out Saddam, notice on MOST networks(leftwing no doubt) you didn't see anything said concerning the people dancing, excited in the streets, happy that they lived no longer under an evil dictator who tortures, kills and does whatever he wants with the people there who disagreed with him. My question for you, why wasn't that all over the news except for Fox or objective networks? hmmm

You're only hearing the people who "are against USA's assistance" and/or hate the US period....rather then seeing the glass full totally.

And you misunderstand what I'm saying....I'm not saying "you per-se" or anyone else on here that's black are for Obama because he's black, I'm saying a LOT of people that are either Black, latino or want someone black in the white house being that it's never happened before IS the reason why they're voting for him.

And before you say ok, well MKF that's BS...then please answer me this then. Why is it majority of Blacks for Obama then? I guess I shouldn't be surprised really since before Hillary dug her grave, most were for her because on national polls during Bill's time most black people and minority's "loved" him and are usually liberal. This is fact, guarantee right now out of most black people on here, you won't find many "black republicans" and I think you know that despite whether you wish to admit it or not.

The reason why I believe this is because, Hillary was arrogant, headstrong and ultimately ignorant to the fact that she wouldn't be "the automatic" Dem candidate running against a Black candidate(who not only that but she underestimated) with lots of potential for becoming our next president. Plus, she shot herself in the foot over time with her arrogance, stupidity and assumptions of people automatically voting for her because of her "husbands" terms.....



Actually, I can say the same thing about why you're in love with Obama talk about ignorance? ha, ha, ha....ohh man. But that aside, actually I've been an Independant for the longest time more then any time spent supporting or belonging to " a party" because I'm actually objective, I've seen what Dems do and I've seen what Reps do, both are far from perfect but speaking as how the media is so far up left wings asses it's pathetic, I hardly get my info from TV if anything I'd say you do. I read objective papers, shows and do my own research thank you very much. And I pretty much supported some of bush's policies because what the libs offered wouldn't have been worse off....yeah, let's try to "negotiate" with terrorists....right and just so you know economy has been shit during the Clinton and Bush administration, jobs are still tough to find, gas prices will still go up like I said before don't care who gets in both of those won't change. But you're seriously ignorant if you believe Obama is going to change all of that, nothing but empty bluff to get in the white house ohh and I love it how all the dem's love raising taxes instead of lowering them....

You're just misunderstanding me a little bit, hear me out here. First, yes Canada and the French especially are pansies when it comes to war. Why? Look at every war or WW that's happened dude, They want NO part of it and when we first headed to Iraq. Canada was one of the key countries very reluctant, yet if they needed our help the USA is there in a heartbeat....that's my beef honestly with them. Nothing against you, I understand you're Canadian so I expect your reaction to be like that...but still, people outside of this country don't know anything fully unless they're actually living here like I am. Now, don't get me wrong because I don't want you to think I'm "taking shots" at you per-se but just pointing out Canada's and France's history concerning "wars" in general

Besides, just like us and every country nobody's perfect and has problems. Also your country has it's own civil war within itself going on for years....two parts that hate each other, disagree with each other....so like I said before man, no country is perfect. I have friends that live in Quebec as well as some in B.C.....let's put it this way lol, I couldn't have them both in the same chat room without fighting about Canadian politics...

The world is greedy in general, but Terrorists do exist and people that ignore them are simply stupid or extremely naive or ignorant. Remember, I live in NYC and felt what it's liked to be attacked on home soil. It's real, they're real. Just because you haven't been attacked yet don't think you're "so safe" or invulnerable man. I do hope you guys don't get attacked but you have to realize and ask yourself. Does Osama give a shit about that? Like I've said, he's attacked several countries worldwide. Fact.

The UK does have it's own problems(as does every country in the world) but at least they're loyal when it comes to helping their allies, you see I don't like it when "allies" question another ally too much otherwise, what's the point? Like I said, if Canada was involved in a war or needed our help, I know for a fact we'd help. In fact, I think we're too nice at times...we offer help where it's unasked yes. But it's for the overall good, believe me there's lots of times I feel we should mind our own business speaking as how our help is unappreciated to begin with.....

And also, ask yourselves this both Trax and Groy. Where would the world be now if not for the USA during WW2? You don't want to know.....


Now, concerning Obama....ok, just to make myself clear Trax you're definitely misunderstanding me a little here. I never said people are "nominating" him because he's black, I said some people out there will vote for him because he's black. He's a dem, a strong one next to Hillary(the only ones really) so I expected it. As for speaking as if I know him lol, well dude the door swings both ways. You, Groy and anyone else against McCain I can say the same thing....what are you going by? What you hear, read and see right?

Well, I'm doing no different. Obama is saying what "some people" want to hear, change, change, change....blah, blah.....People like let's see here Opera Winfrey, Rap artists, black celebrities rant on saying yeah..go Obama.....it screams the question. Why? Because you agree with him politically or because he's Black and you want a Black president in this country? I don't know him personally but have seen so much of his speeches, reads, what he stands for etc, etc to make a good judgmental call. Initially I wasn't for anyone, in fact my candidate that I was for got knocked out early on.....but in this case if it's between Obama and McCain, I'm not going for Obama. Do I "love" McCain? Not at all....for me it's a lesser of two evils. There are some things I disagree with McCain on, but there's LOTS of things I disagree with Obama on. Unlike others in this country, I'm not sold on the fact of someone being a great speaker. My ex boss was a great speaker, she was also a slut and bitch too. So....

I suppose nobody really "knows" except the people who vote for him, however when you see someone as popular with the name "Clinton" go down...I can't help but to question since soooo many people thought Clinton was this "godly president" ha, ha...

Your advice to me, just remember the same goes for everyone and Groy as well. I hardly watch TV when it comes to politics or read my local papers because they're all leftwing bias up the ass....so really no point. I watch the debates, make my own observations and notes and go based on that. While most watch CNN and believe everything those people say....that's not me.

I don't watch TV. I read numerous articles everyday and I have a friend that lives in Israel so I do get a pretty damn good perspective. Trust me none of you really know what is going on. We take everything for granted such as an AC for instance no loud sounds (bombs gunshots etc)
When it comes to our pres I don’t care if she is black white Hispanic male Trans. I want a good leader and one that can deal with Nancy's bullsh1t. I wish we could all setup a phone conference. I would be down, but right off the bat i got a very bad vibe from groy because he immediately insulted my intelligence without giving me benefit of doubt and I have been knowing him way longer than that. I respected you dude and I still do if you just realize that please. I am off for now my homies.