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02/20/2006 03:36 PM (UTC)
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Actually, he doesn't look COMPLETELY different, and I like that. Pay attention to his outfit, it is reminiscent of his old ninja garb even though his form has changed. I like that, because it shows a connection to the older version of the character, instead of giving us something 100% different and going "Well, its Reptile. I know he looks nothing like how he used to, but its him. See? He's a lizard, that means he's Reptile."
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02/20/2006 03:39 PM (UTC)
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look it just comes down to this. The man would like to see REPTILE in his ninja form I don't want to see sub or rain or anyone else the same i just prefer reptile in his ninja form. Its just a preference and you don't know me as well as the majority of everyone else and believe me when i say its just a preference. i like many others on this site are not a fake. Its like buying a car just because you don't like the color of the car doesn't mean you don't like the company. Were just saying we would like to see him in ninja form wheather they do it or not thats up to them but does it hurt you that much when you see threads like this you just have to ridicule others.
P.s. Tremor is a retarted idea
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02/20/2006 03:52 PM (UTC)
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excatly its so boring seeing the lizard reptile its iller if ninja reptile retursgrin
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02/20/2006 03:55 PM (UTC)
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Said it before, I'll say it again: It never ceases to amaze me that the MK team goes through all the hard work of designing new looks and styles for their characters, and some people want nothing but 12 goddamn identical ninjas for a cast.
This post wins the topic.
Quite honestly, you want Ninja Reptile? Use the Alt costume. Thank you.
Holy shit... does it really make that much of a difference between main and alt?
It doesn't even take that long to unlock in the krypt in MK:D, and it'll most likely be in MKA as well.
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02/20/2006 03:58 PM (UTC)
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first of all they might not have tha godamn alt costume because remember in mkda there was no ninja costume i saw now was there. excatly so u cant just say use the alt costume there might not be a ninja for the alt costume dumbasssleep
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02/20/2006 03:59 PM (UTC)
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Thanks for the language. If they had it before, good chances are they'll have it again.
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kabashiboy2033
02/20/2006 04:01 PM (UTC)
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your very welcome for the language i doubt there gonna have the ninja suit i think either u get to creat him or somthinggringringrin
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02/20/2006 04:03 PM (UTC)
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Well isn't that just fine and dandy?
Dear lord... all that swearing for nothing.
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kabashiboy2033
02/20/2006 04:04 PM (UTC)
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yes its very dandy isnt it???gringringrin
Don't abuse the smilieys.
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02/20/2006 04:09 PM (UTC)
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kabashiboy2033 Wrote:
yes its very dandy isnt it???gringringringringringringringringringringrin

Enough, back on topic now.
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02/20/2006 04:13 PM (UTC)
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kabashiboy2033 Wrote:
first of all they might not have tha godamn alt costume because remember in mkda there was no ninja costume i saw now was there.

Did you even look at his primary costume? The only difference between that costume and the "standard ninja" one is the mask! Does it really make that much of a difference if there's a mask covering his face?
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kabashiboy2033
02/20/2006 04:18 PM (UTC)
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yea because it just looks so stupid with his tail in mkda and his skin is green its retarded they should just put his ninja costume as his alt costume or regular i liked mksm reptile and mk 4 but mkda it looks so stupidgrinconfusedsleep
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02/20/2006 04:19 PM (UTC)
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This post wins the topic.
Quite honestly, you want Ninja Reptile? Use the Alt costume. Thank you.
Holy shit... does it really make that much of a difference between main and alt?
It doesn't even take that long to unlock in the krypt in MK:D, and it'll most likely be in MKA as well.
I dont care i would just like to see the ninja costume nothing more. Everyone makes the assumptions just cause they wanna see a costume. If the alt comes up ill be happy. I'm not trying to change reptile! And i hear all these people complaining about the fighting system in MK but it doesn't mean they hate it so why is it diff. when i talk about reptile. Anyway i would PREFER(thats it) his ninja look. I dont want to see identical ninjas, i would hate to have tremor in the game and i love reptiles story.
signed a fan of reptile.
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02/20/2006 04:22 PM (UTC)
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Shadaloo Wrote:
Said it before, I'll say it again: It never ceases to amaze me that the MK team goes through all the hard work of designing new looks and styles for their characters, and some people want nothing but 12 goddamn identical ninjas for a cast.

It is puzzling how the MKDA lizard form can be seen as original. While the design for Mk4 was original, the MKDA design was, as other posters have said, a carbon copy of Lizard Man.
I do like the Ninja Reptile from UMK3 better. I'm not adverse to variety but I think you undervalue the subtle variations that made the pallete-swap ninjas stand apart. They all had unique stances and at least they all had different movesets (secret characters notwithstanding). The same can NOT be said for the "new" characters of the past two games...
For example, in this game you will have:
Kenshi & Ermac - the same special move sets. Different weapon / fighting stances but the same special moves with one exception (Tele Flurry). Their fatalities are almost identical - let's see one stretches you out and crushes you and the other stretches you out and separates you...
Kobra / Kira / Kano / Sonya / Johnny Cage / Jarek - it's like a bizarre love hexagon. They don't even mask this uniquitous copying of special moves, fatalities, fighting stances and weapons.
Mavado / Kabal - the hookswords are mine. No MINE! Mavado will need to be rebooted for this game if he's to have any kind of personality - his ONLY special move used the hookswords...and Kabal took those from him.
Back to the original topic, why NOT INCLUDE BOTH THE NINJA AND THE LIZARD FORM in this game??? Why force one or the other? It's not like the MK team has ever been slaves to continuity... (Johnny Cage / Liu Kang / Goro / Sub-Zero are dead... oh wait, nevermind - that was just a clone, random Shokan, it's now his younger brother...) I mean, Lizard Reptile could spawn a ninja Repitle... aren't some of them asexually reproductive? I leave you with that nice image...
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kabashiboy2033
02/20/2006 04:24 PM (UTC)
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yea but u never know we might not see ninja reptile how do u kno for sure that the ninja will be a alt costume well i guess well have to wait and find outtonguetonguetongue
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02/20/2006 04:26 PM (UTC)
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exactly Van_cleef but why bitch when someone says they like a certain look more than the other. There is no right answer with this its just w/e happens. But why fight over a suggestion.
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02/20/2006 04:33 PM (UTC)
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well i just want mka t0 have ninja reptile cause im bored of the lizard reptile i dont like it at allwink
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02/20/2006 04:59 PM (UTC)
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while i do hate reptiles lizard/dino look i dont want him to return as a full ninja. But f he did why would that be bad? They have taken the pallete swaps farther beyond individuality. Sub, Ermac, Noob, Smoke, Rain. Yes they are all "ninjas" (although ninja isnt the exact word i would use for some of them) but now you couldnt even tell that they used to be pallete swaps. Their moves were all distinct from the start and now their looks have taken them along a seperate visual route. Im pretty sure they wouldnt have any problem doing this with reptile also.
But like some i prefer his MK4 look which would look hot in finer detail. Also his MKSM look was pretty pimp....although in MKSM he resembled a ninja, the feeling of the outfit suited him perfectly because it was like a ravage look.
However they decide to make him with an Alt or not i dont really care coz i dont use him anyways. Never did since after MK2
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02/21/2006 02:37 AM (UTC)
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YES!!!!!!!!!! Someone finally agrees with me!!!! I HATE the lizard... I began to pure HATE reptile since MK4, he used to me my second fav until MK4 and MKDA. PLZ BRING BACK THE MK2 or the MKSM!!!
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02/21/2006 03:35 AM (UTC)
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Van_Cleef Wrote:
It is puzzling how the MKDA lizard form can be seen as original. While the design for Mk4 was original, the MKDA design was, as other posters have said, a carbon copy of Lizard Man.
I do like the Ninja Reptile from UMK3 better. I'm not adverse to variety but I think you undervalue the subtle variations that made the pallete-swap ninjas stand apart. They all had unique stances and at least they all had different movesets (secret characters notwithstanding). The same can NOT be said for the "new" characters of the past two games...
For example, in this game you will have:
Kenshi & Ermac - the same special move sets. Different weapon / fighting stances but the same special moves with one exception (Tele Flurry). Their fatalities are almost identical - let's see one stretches you out and crushes you and the other stretches you out and separates you...
Kobra / Kira / Kano / Sonya / Johnny Cage / Jarek - it's like a bizarre love hexagon. They don't even mask this uniquitous copying of special moves, fatalities, fighting stances and weapons.
Mavado / Kabal - the hookswords are mine. No MINE! Mavado will need to be rebooted for this game if he's to have any kind of personality - his ONLY special move used the hookswords...and Kabal took those from him.

To be fair, there's not too many ways you can do a bipedal lizard without there being some resemblance betwixt them. Personally, I feel they distanced Reptile well enough from Lizardman. He doesn't use a shield, his sword is different, he's got tail spines (and hell, Reptile maintains the traditional ninja overmantle in his primary costume, which people seem to forget about, so that's another reason I don't understand why there's so much complaining). Their eyes are different. Lizardman's are red and beady, Reptile's are large and yellow. Hell, there's plenty of differences between the two - the only thing I'd say they have in common is being big lizards who use swords. They're all based off the image of a velociraptor, and Reptile, at the very least, seems more bipedal than Lizardman does. I think the differentials between those two greatly outweigh whatever differences were inherent in five or six characters who had the exact same appearance, minus coloring.
Kenshi had tele-flurry and mind-warp. Ermac had a fireball and a levitation kick/stomp. Truth be told, they shared 2 moves: Tele-slam and tele-throw (and even the animation in their tosses is different, at the very least). And I forget if he still had it in MKD, but Kenshi did have that tele-push. Ermac didn't.
You forgot to mention Blaze and Mokap. Hell, by that extention, I'm sure you can get practically every single MKDA/D character in there. That's something that does need to be addressed, and is one of the reasons Jarek and Kira are disliked - they're different versions of other characters.
Bah? Mavado used hooked ropes for his special moves. He only used the hookswords for his fighting styles.
And you're ignoring the characters whose move sets were indeed quite unique. As much as I dislike Hotaru, he had some new maneuvers, as did Havik. Drahmin was pretty original too, minus the shoryuken rip. And hell, look at Dairou. I don't know what the heck was going on there, but that was nothing if not a original moveset.
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02/21/2006 03:37 AM (UTC)
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kabashiboy2033 Wrote:
i hope they bring back the ninja reptile instead of a dumb lizard they ruined reptile when they turned him in to a lizard hopefully in mka they have ninja reptiletonguetonguetonguetongue

Agreed....wink
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02/21/2006 03:43 AM (UTC)
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If Midway was smart they would give him the MKSM look to satisfy the ninja/lizard nuts.Why do people get pissed off if he's in lizard form if his name is REPTILE?It makes no sense.
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02/21/2006 04:25 AM (UTC)
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His ninja look left a lot more to the imagination, and added to his mystery....
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02/21/2006 04:28 AM (UTC)
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I'm going to go on a little rant here for a second just to clear this whole thing up...
1) Yes, ninja Reptile is STUPID!! Why? His name is Reptile for a reason. He is a REPTILE. That's why he looks Reptilian instead of HUMAN. That's like making the Dragon King and when you see him, he looks like a friggin' dog! It makes no sense. The old ninja costume is incredibly unoriginal, and if you'v been paying attention the last 9 years, you'd see that each character has gone through changes, costume and character alike, even the ninja's have developed their own unique style, so if you don't like it, then get the hell over it. It's called evolution. Get used to it. Maybe you'll get the ninja costume as an alternate if Boon and his team can get through most of the bitching and whining on this board about it.
2) It's kind of obvious that most of the renders in the wallpaper/picture of the returning cast (new characters not included) are place-holders. Why you say? They all look like they did from past games when it's sort've obvious they will probably get new costumes. Quan Chi, Shang Tsung, Johnny, Frost, Sonya, Nitara, Jax, Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Ermac, Shujinko, Ashrah, Hsu Hao, Cyrax, Kung Lao (with his alternate), hell even Sareena, they all have their looks from the previous games they were in. It's obvious they just threw in renders from Deadly Alliance and Deception mixed with the old returning characters from MK-MK4 just to have something 'cool looking' to present to Game Informer.
And lastly, why anyone would want the old ninja costume back is unknown to me. Why? Because the lizard look makes him stand out. If he was back in the ninja outfit, like back in the old 2D days, he would go unnoticed by me and mainly a lot of others. Why? Because he lacks originality and looks identical to multiple other characters. This gives him that spark of originality and interest that the character deserves. Okay, I'm done. wink
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02/21/2006 04:36 AM (UTC)
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Funny thing about "evolution" is things always have a way of coming full circle.... wink. I have always believed you should be given the option of both outfits to satisfy both parties of this debate... Anyway, I'm old school growing up watching those '80s ninja flicks and he always appealed to me with the ninja black arts type stuff and his mystery of origin....
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