No, Human Smoke is not in Armageddon. He's a cyborg with two different costumes.

Your comparison between Human Smoke/Cyborg Smoke and Reptile/Onaga is a bit wrong : in MKA, Onaga has his own body, the body from Sindel ending in mkd...

What?! did you even pay attention to sindels ending...she waits for onaga to go into his origional body and then destroys it. Oh and for the record MKT had ninja smoke and cyborg smoke and that is as canon as armageddon if not more so as it leads up to MK4. Also i have heard the argument that smokes MKD alt is human smoke before and it is quite obviously not...it may be quite hard to see for some of you, but the differences are quite considerable. for starters human smoke consists of flesh and blood, his MKD alt is some cyborg parts held together by a humanoid shaped cloud of smoke. also Human smoke had a different moves list from cyborg smoke. So if you think about it, the Alt is just a different look for cyborg smoke (I dont care what the MKD card/bio/whatever says) as someone already pointed out.

Sindel ending is not canon, for everything we know for the moment : at the moment where Shujinko killed Onaga, his soul was transported in Netherrealm by Nightwolfs incantations, and Reptile regained his own form... Then, Onagas was imprisoned in Netherrealm until Shinnok freed him... Onagas soul was transported into his original body , in the Sarnas Ruins, and when he recovered, only Shao Kahn, Quan Chi and Shang Tsung waited him... Sindel never killed Onaga, but onagas first body was there we can see Sindel to kill him in her ending... And Human Smoke in MKT is described as being a non-canon character. Even if he's in the game, he has no place in the plot of the game... This is why even if both are in MKT, Human Smoke didn't come back in MKA...

i just started to like the Smoke character in MKD with his "nanomachine" look.Good thing the spandex nightmare is no more in MK.

ok i seriosly think this needs to be addressed cuz nobody ever listens to me when i bring it up

to anybody who has the premium version of MK Deception with the bonus disk witht he bios, take a look nat smokes video card.

Ed boon goes on talking about their ideas for smoke and how they wanted to include both the cyborg AND THE NINJA versions in MKD. He then goes on to say that the 2 costumes represent thos 2 forms loved by the fans.

therefore this elemental mistical smoke costume that appears in MKD as noob-smokes alternate is actually mr.boon's and the mk teams current take on the NINJA/human smoke. hes been in the entire time in my eyes, boon considers that costume to be the ninja version of smoke. i believe his exact words were "thats why we decided to include both the cyborg version of smoke aswell as the ninja version"

somebody needs to look into this or ask boon or im gonna freak in 10 minutes tops.

A few things


Mortal Kombat Trilogy was a freaking Trilogy of the 3 past games, Mortal Kombat Armagedon was actually one event. MKT had two types of Raiden, Jax, Sub Zero (Well 3 types if you think about it), Kano, Kung Lao and Smoke ok? It was a trilogy of 3 events. The storyline goes from UMK3 STRAIGHT to MK4. Johnny Cage stayed dead after MK2 till MK4, Raiden and Baraka also did not return until MK4/Gold. UMK3 is canon apart from the appearance of Classic Sub Zero and Human Smoke, they were simply to add palette swaps to the ninjas and also to show what Noob and Cyber Smoke looked like before.

It annoys me when people try and make out that MKT is one game with 1 storyline, you know its not so why make out it is.


Smoke's human form was a costume and nothing but a costume: we had Cyber Smoke in his regular cyber costume before he met Noob, and Cyber Smoke in his new human appearance after he met Noob... both are cyber Ninja, but his human appearance is avaliable as a costume.

And what would be the point in his return? The focus of Armageddon is on Tavem, Daegon and Blaze, and they simply brought foward at least every character at least once.

If you had to bring back human smoke then you'l have to have both the Sub Zero brothers in their sub zero forms.


Anyway why would you want Human Smoke back, he only served as a Scorpion palette swap clone in the 2nd games, now the games are in 3d they cannot do that anymore.

We want ninja smoke back because he has as much a right if not more so of being in MKA than meat and Chameleon. Cyborg smokes primary MKA costume is not ninja smoke...Ninja smoke consists of flesh the MKA primary costume does not. Also MKT did have its own story (sort of) as it led up to MK4 as I previously said. There is no good reason for ninja smoke not to be in MKA...none whatsoever. If midway gave shinnok moves of his own for Armageddon then why not smoke.

Not really, Ninja Smoke is still there, because the Lin Kuei cyberninjas are still ninjas.

Well technically none of the Lin Kuei are ninjas but in terms of discussions like this, they are.

So Smoke is already there, and Armageddon was to bring all previous characters at least once, which included Meat who had only been in one game and deserved to return completely redesigned. Same goes with Chameleon and Khameleon.

And Smoke did have moves of his own, what did you mean by that. Shinnok comment? Also do remember that technically Armageddon was still the first ever game to feature 3d Smoke by himself, he had appeared as Noob-Smoke the previous game.

If Human Smoke as you state (with flesh) was to be playable it would be for a Mortal Kombat One Prequel... or they would have to build up a storyline of Smoke becoming free of Noob's grasp, and being restored to his former glory. It can't just 'happen', unless its a non canon game like MKT.

Actually, MKT's story is an upgrade of UMK3's story, which is an upgrade of MK3's storyline. So overall, they are the same story, but the predecessing games expanded on that story.

In the pre-retconned storyline, Johnny Cage died at the hands of Shao Kahn's Extermination Squads, but due to the merger of Earthrealm and Outworld, he was able to cheat death and aid his allies in taking down Shao Kahn's forces.

In the post-retconned storyline, Johnny Cage never died and simply helped his allies in taking down Shao Kahn's forces.

Back then, it wasn't decided that Noob Saibot was once the original Sub-Zero. That story idea came much later.



Let me explain this again. Smoke's human form is gone, so why should he have it as a costume in MKA? It wouldn't make any sense and would only bring confusion.

I am well aware that ninja smoke no longer exists, however MKA is as canon as MKT (MKA has been called Mortal Kombat Triology 2 after all...) and therefore Ninja smoke has a right to return as does every character. Smoke and Ninja smoke are different people...they have different moves (well ninja smoke has the same moves as scorpion and needs moves of his own for MKA hence the shinnok comment)...and they are different characters (did they not have different spaces in the character select screen on MKT) I am aware that ninja smoke is not a canon character but most of the characters on MKA have nearly no storyline...at least ninja smoke has a backstory. MKA was supposed to mark the return of EVERY fighter...human smoke is a different character from Cyborg smoke...Just like Noob Saibot is different from Classic Sub-Zero. They look different, have different moves, and are different.

What you guys are all forgetting... is Rayden's MK ending. In it,Rayden takes over the world, how come he's not the ruler of the world in MKII? That's what I'd like to know.

Eh...Raiden's MK ending has him inviting the other gods to compete in the tournament, leading to a giant battle that destroys Earth (See Here). Raiden never had an ending in which he ruled the world.

You're trying to make the implication that MKT is not that canon, which is erroneous of you. MKT's storyline is an upgrade of UMK3's storyline, which in turn is an upgrade of MK3's storyline. In MKT, they not only had Human Smoke and Classic Sub-Zero, but also Classic Jax, Kano, Raiden, and Kung Lao, along with Goro and Kintaro. Those appearances are all non-canon. Cyborg Smoke and "Ninja" Smoke are the same person but in a different form. Ninja Smoke's appearance in UMK3 and MKT is non-canon, not the character himself.

Not only do you seem to be implying that MKT is not that canon, but you also seem to imply that MKA is not that canon due to most of the characters not having their bios out yet. Keep in mind that it was decided to not have bios in the game, which didn't sit well with John Vogel as he wanted to explain what happened at the end of MKD to before MKA as well as how the various characters that were missing for a long time and those thought to have been killed are brought back to life and how their stories lead up to their involvement in Armageddon.

u can pike the costom to get human smoke or u can selected normaly to pike the smoke one LOL !

Ok, I made an error, MKT is canon and is an upgrade of UMK3. My bad.

Trilogy's like that are tricky. It's because Tekken Tag was a trilogy of the previous 3 games but wasn't canon, for a moment I thought MKT was.

My error.

MKT = Canon


The only games that Human Smoke has appeared in is MK2, UMK3, MKT and Shaolin Monks.

Shaolin Monks being a prequel of MK2. MKT overruling UMK3 where Smoke made a non canon appearance, and also a non canon ending of him leaving his cyber armour. Until a miracle happens he is stuck in that armour, I guess pray to Vogal to see if Taven decides Smoke's fate or not.

SO really the only canon appearance Smoke as a Human has made is in Shaolin Monks and MK2.

Anyway like it really matters because Smoke pretty much looks like his ninja form in MK:A. And essentially the storylines won't change as they are both the exact same character, its mostly in the costume... which MK:A covers. So its not all that big a deal.

Human Smoke is in KAK

I guess there's still nobody listening...

Technically speaking Human Smoke is in the MKA game. The primary outfit is of human form of smoke of course and his mask matches the Shaolin Monks look too. In a way he is technically in the game but if you are referring to the ninja look he had in past games, that is of course not in the game. Why? At least this sort of human version has an updated look and it eliminates the pallett swapping.

Techinacally Smoke's basic is Human because the nanobots rebuilt his body making him less of a cyborg.But he has that smokey appearance because of how the nanobots rebuilt his body.However, i do not consider him a ninja.Smoke is my 2nd favorite character and though i'm not unhappy with this version of his appearnace i wish there could have been someway to work his shaolin monks appearnce into the game and but with the crew being rushed and no one going out there and saying they really wanted it we will have to be satisfied with recreating him in KAK(where we can also give him back his spear move)

Smoke was never officially (by the storyline) playable as a human. The only time he was truly human was in MK2, and you could only fight him unless you had a Game Genie to play as him, and UMK3 and Trilogy, where he was just the memory of his human form. Therefore, a future story-line based "human" smoke would be impossible. Sure, I suppose it would have been kool to have a human form playable as an alternate, but the human form is like 3 costumes old now. Smoke is now the form of his primary Armageddon costume. His costume before it was his more cybornetic form. It makes since the way they done it.

Smoke is and has been my favorite character in MK, and I did like the human better than the cyborg, but its never been official that the human form ever participated in Mortal Kombat, other than MK2, which he didnt have a story during that time anyway. Creating him in KAK is the best way to do it.

sad eh?

Yes, it is sad. I agree with fuzzdork. I have said, and I think it might be more than once, that Smoke's MKA primary/MKD alternate is NOT him as a human! It's his cyborg form after Noob Saibot activated Smoke's nanotechnology, which repaired and reshaped Smoke's body. Maybe earlier on, the intention was to give Smoke a human form costume, but then with the story, that changed.

one day human smoke will return....

one day

I honestly could care less about Smoke. Honestly, he already has TWO forms in MKA already, the "robot" and the "remotely human" looks, so a purely human form seems a bit redundant, besides being completely non-canonical. That is like saying there should be a "human" Reptile, a "Sub-Zero" Noob Saibot, or a "young" Shunjinko, just for completion's sake.

The big question everyone SHOULD be asking... is where the hell is Zebron in that game?