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posted03/22/2004 09:18 PM (UTC)by
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With only a very few slots left I am begining to get worried that she might not return. That would suck IMO because she is hands down the best MK female of all time. I can't see them doing a game without Sonya so maybe I am worried for nothing. But I am worried none the less. Don't get me wrong I am happy that so many great fighters are returning after being shelved after MK 3, but Sonya is a must. I think that it would be a mistake for them to bench her. I know that there are some people who hate or a sick of Sonya but you can't argue with the facts. She was one of the most powerful kombatants in MKDA able to easily demolish the other females and more then hold her own against some of the more powerful male characters. She is a great character. They can bring her story in a new direction if that's what people are worried about so much. Then again like I said maybe I'm worrying for nothing and she's in. What do you think?
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03/20/2004 07:18 PM (UTC)
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I myself have never really liked Sonya as a character... I found her story pretty boring. If she could have a new (interesting!) story, I might get a bit more interest in her.

I don't really care wether she returns or not, but if she does, I hope the developers will give her a better personality and a more interesting and new story.
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03/20/2004 07:23 PM (UTC)
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her looks and stuff are pretty interesting but her story is repetative. Her story is boring, same thing as always, shes always after the red dragon members, speacially "KANO". I think they need to give her a new story. I hate her being in the speacial forces with jax and cyrax and kenshi. She doesnt really play a big role in the whole plot. Its like shes there to do her own thing with kano. While the rest try to either kill kahn or shang tsung or quan chi or who ever is boss. So give her a new twist. She should leave the speacial forces.
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03/20/2004 07:24 PM (UTC)
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MKD seems to be bringing back ALL the characters that were "forgotten" (Ermac, Kabal, Sindel) or considered lame (you will be very surprised).

Sonya probably wont be back for deception, and THAT IS a big deception. But I have good news for you bro, if she does not make it in MKD, she will in Mk7.
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03/20/2004 07:25 PM (UTC)
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But I DO AGREE 100%

Sonya is a MUST. A true classic. The original female. The best.

She will live for Mk7, there is always hope.
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03/20/2004 07:29 PM (UTC)
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buterbals113085 Wrote:
her looks and stuff are pretty interesting but her story is repetative. Her story is boring, same thing as always, shes always after the bacl dragon members, speacially "KANO". I think they need to give her a new story. I hate her being in the speacial forces with jax and cyrax and kenshi. She doesnt really play a big role in the whole plot. Its like shes there to do her own thing with kano. While the rest try to either kill kahn or shang tsung or quan chi or who ever is boss. So give her a new twist. She should leave the speacial forces.


Ok how bout this: The other members of her team, especially Jax, are getting concerned with her obsession with Kano. So much so that they tell her that they think it is becoming an issue and interfering with her duty as a Special Forces agent. Sonya would be in complete denial, claming there is no problem. How ever one of her expeditions after Kano leaves one of her team hanging on a vital mission, (Cyrax or Jax maybe I think Jax would have a bigger affect on her) and as a result they die because she wasn't there doing her job. This makes Sonya question everything about herself. Had she really let this thing with Kano go to far, etc. etc. The end result: Feeling very guilty and more or less destroyed. Sony decides to leave the speacial forces, because she can't let her thing with Kano go, but at the same time she decides she won't be responsible for the death of another Special Forces member. What do you think?
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03/20/2004 07:31 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
But I DO AGREE 100%

Sonya is a MUST. A true classic. The original female. The best.

She will live for Mk7, there is always hope.


I want her in this game, but if she's not then I really hope what you say comes true Queve I really do. But what can you do? Ya know?
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03/20/2004 07:32 PM (UTC)
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buterbals113085 Wrote:
her looks and stuff are pretty interesting but her story is repetative. Her story is boring, same thing as always, shes always after the red dragon members, speacially "KANO". I think they need to give her a new story. I hate her being in the speacial forces with jax and cyrax and kenshi. She doesnt really play a big role in the whole plot. Its like shes there to do her own thing with kano. While the rest try to either kill kahn or shang tsung or quan chi or who ever is boss. So give her a new twist. She should leave the speacial forces.


Actually, in MKDA she WAS NOT after Kano or Mavado. She was SAVING EARTH. She didn’t even know anuthing about them! She had the mission to save earth and rescue her team.

SAVE THE TEAM AND SAVE EARTH!!!

That pretty much says she is “not there just cause she is there”. She was promoted General in her ending. It’s clear she is the "head" of the team. The leader.

Her main mission on MK4 was save earth, she was even allied with Jarek in the game! Only in the end she had something to do with him.
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03/20/2004 07:33 PM (UTC)
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Sonya sucks. Her story line has been played out since Mortal Kombat 4. They should leave her out and give a more worthwhile character a chance to shine.

Honestly, Sonya and Kitana are the two standard females in the MK history and both have worn their welcome. They're better off forgotten this time to make room for the more under-used and interesting (I say 'interesting' because they're not used as frequently as Sonya and Kitana, so they're story lines aren't as tired and boring) female characters, such as Mileena and Sindel. If only one of them could return, I'd take Kitana over Sonya. Besides, Sonya's already been in MK 3, MK 4, and MK: DA. That's three straight MKs in a row. Kitana has only been in MK 2 and MK: DA (I'm not counting UMK 3, MKT, or MKG because they were special editions of MK 3 and 4 meant to please the fans that were disappointed with 3 and 4), so she deserves to come back moreso than Sonya in my opinion.

Sonya and Kitana have basically the same story line in every game. In my opinion, they're just as out-dated as Liu Kang was in Deadly Alliance.
[Edit] Well, maybe not the same story line in every game, but their involvements from game-to-game leave more to be desired in my opinion.
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03/20/2004 07:34 PM (UTC)
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that sounds pretty cool. That would be a great thing for the MK staff to consider. If this was put in her storyline it would please many sonya fans. It would make alot of sense.

TO QUEVE:
Yes shes a classic but only because shes a classic doesnt mean shes always gonna be interesting. Just look at lui kang, he was a classic and what happened to him? he died because of his stupid storylines, he was boring so they killed him off.
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03/20/2004 07:39 PM (UTC)
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Hideo_Sakaguchi Wrote:
Sonya sucks. Her story line has been played out since Mortal Kombat 4. They should leave her out and give a more worthwhile character a chance to shine.

Honestly, Sonya and Kitana are the two standard females in the MK history and both have worn their welcome. They're better off forgotten this time to make room for the more under-used and interesting (I say 'interesting' because they're not used as frequently as Sonya and Kitana, so they're story lines aren't as tired and boring) female characters, such as Mileena and Sindel. If only one of them could return, I'd take Kitana over Sonya. Besides, Sonya's already been in MK 3, MK 4, and MK: DA. That's three straight MKs in a row. Kitana has only been in MK 2 and MK: DA (I'm not counting UMK 3, MKT, or MKG because they were special editions of MK 3 and 4 meant to please the fans that were disappointed with 3 and 4), so she deserves to come back moreso than Sonya in my opinion.

Sonya and Kitana have basically the same story line in every game. In my opinion, they're just as out-dated as Liu Kang was in Deadly Alliance.


Oh really? What Character(s) did you have in mind then? All of the old "unused" characters worth bringing back are already in. BTW Sonya or Kitana could never "wear out their welcome" They are two of the most beloved females of MK.. I respect your opinion but c'mon.
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03/20/2004 07:40 PM (UTC)
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buterbals113085 Wrote:

TO QUEVE:
Yes shes a classic but only because shes a classic doesnt mean shes always gonna be interesting. Just look at lui kang, he was a classic and what happened to him? he died because of his stupid storylines, he was boring so they killed him off.


I know. My other reply was to point out a few mistakles you said. Like how every Mk game has Kano involved in her story.
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03/20/2004 07:50 PM (UTC)
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Hideo_Sakaguchi Wrote:
Sonya sucks. Her story line has been played out since Mortal Kombat 4. They should leave her out and give a more worthwhile character a chance to shine.

Honestly, Sonya and Kitana are the two standard females in the MK history and both have worn their welcome. They're better off forgotten this time to make room for the more under-used and interesting (I say 'interesting' because they're not used as frequently as Sonya and Kitana, so they're story lines aren't as tired and boring) female characters, such as Mileena and Sindel. If only one of them could return, I'd take Kitana over Sonya. Besides, Sonya's already been in MK 3, MK 4, and MK: DA. That's three straight MKs in a row. Kitana has only been in MK 2 and MK: DA (I'm not counting UMK 3, MKT, or MKG because they were special editions of MK 3 and 4 meant to please the fans that were disappointed with 3 and 4), so she deserves to come back moreso than Sonya in my opinion.

Sonya and Kitana have basically the same story line in every game. In my opinion, they're just as out-dated as Liu Kang was in Deadly Alliance.
[Edit] Well, maybe not the same story line in every game, but their involvements from game-to-game leave more to be desired in my opinion.


That is absurd! Anyway I think that she will return Tom, you don't have anything to worry about. Also I like your storyline idea. LUV you. Bye.
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03/20/2004 07:58 PM (UTC)
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Im sure about Sonya... Sure she shouldnt be in this Game!! HA HA HA HA! Anyways.. I agree that Sonya is a classic. Hands down one of the best fighters in the series.. but she has gotten tired. shes boring to alot of people now.. I dont think they should kill her off or anything.. just give her a break from appearing in THIS game. Maybe by the time mk7 comes out everyone will be ready for her return, not just the hardcore fans. AND REMEMBER! MK2 was arguably the best in the series and Sonya was NOT in it! (not counting in the background) MK Deception looks to be shaping up alot like MK2 which means that Sonya doesnt have to be in it for it to be a totally kick ass game!! BOO YA!
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03/20/2004 08:03 PM (UTC)
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Im sure about Sonya... Sure she shouldnt be in this Game!! HA HA HA HA! Anyways.. I agree that Sonya is a classic. Hands down one of the best fighters in the series.. but she has gotten tired. shes boring to alot of people now.. I dont think they should kill her off or anything.. just give her a break from appearing in THIS game. Maybe by the time mk7 comes out everyone will be ready for her return, not just the hardcore fans. AND REMEMBER! MK2 was arguably the best in the series and Sonya was NOT in it! (not counting in the background) MK Deception looks to be shaping up alot like MK2 which means that Sonya doesnt have to be in it for it to be a totally kick ass game!! BOO YA!


you made a really good point. The only one missing i think who was in MK2 is KITANA. She still isnt confirmed. Hopefully she will make the cut.
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03/20/2004 08:14 PM (UTC)
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Im sure about Sonya... Sure she shouldnt be in this Game!! HA HA HA HA! Anyways.. I agree that Sonya is a classic. Hands down one of the best fighters in the series.. but she has gotten tired. shes boring to alot of people now.. I dont think they should kill her off or anything.. just give her a break from appearing in THIS game. Maybe by the time mk7 comes out everyone will be ready for her return, not just the hardcore fans. AND REMEMBER! MK2 was arguably the best in the series and Sonya was NOT in it! (not counting in the background) MK Deception looks to be shaping up alot like MK2 which means that Sonya doesnt have to be in it for it to be a totally kick ass game!! BOO YA!


And why do you think it is that she HAS appeared in every MK since 2? (Not counting the non fighting games, in which she was supposed to have appeared in one.) Because they realized what an awsome character she is and that as popular as MK 2 was (Still a favorite of mine) it was a mistake for her not to be there. Hopefully they will use the same logic here.
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03/20/2004 08:25 PM (UTC)
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TomTaz Wrote:

mkfan99 Wrote:
Im sure about Sonya... Sure she shouldnt be in this Game!! HA HA HA HA! Anyways.. I agree that Sonya is a classic. Hands down one of the best fighters in the series.. but she has gotten tired. shes boring to alot of people now.. I dont think they should kill her off or anything.. just give her a break from appearing in THIS game. Maybe by the time mk7 comes out everyone will be ready for her return, not just the hardcore fans. AND REMEMBER! MK2 was arguably the best in the series and Sonya was NOT in it! (not counting in the background) MK Deception looks to be shaping up alot like MK2 which means that Sonya doesnt have to be in it for it to be a totally kick ass game!! BOO YA!

And why do you think it is that she HAS appeared in every MK since 2? (Not counting the non fighting games, in which she was supposed to have appeared in one.) Because they realized what an awsome character she is and that as popular as MK 2 was (Still a favorite of mine) it was a mistake for her not to be there. Hopefully they will use the same logic here.


Exactly. She is more then just a fan fave. Sonya rocks! Mk, Mk3, MkU, MKT, MK4, MkG, MKDA...
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03/20/2004 08:30 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
MKD seems to be bringing back ALL the characters that were "forgotten" (Ermac, Kabal, Sindel) or considered lame (you will be very surprised).

Sonya probably wont be back for deception, and THAT IS a big deception. But I have good news for you bro, if she does not make it in MKD, she will in Mk7.


If you say this...then Im so srry to think I have a reason to fear.

Sonya is a must. She is an excellent fighter with incredible special moves and fatalities!

We need her...I hope she is in deception, but if she is not there...then I hope she is back in Mk7, even though that would suck.
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03/20/2004 08:32 PM (UTC)
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Well, from what i know, only 6 characters will be returning from DA. We know Kenshi is confirmed, and its safe to assume Sub Zero and Scorpion our included also. So that leaves 3 slots open for any character that was in DA. Personally, i think they are gonna bring back Kitana, Quan Chi, and Kung Lao. No one knows yet, but i dont think Sonya will be making it into MKD.......
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03/20/2004 08:51 PM (UTC)
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I'm not denying that Sonya isn't a classic character, because she is. But so were Johnny Cage and Liu Kang for that matter. I wouldn't feel bad if Sonya missed out on a game. I'm not saying kill her off, just let her character rest for a bit. She can always wait one out, like Raiden with MK 3 or Kung Lao with MK 4.

Just because someone is a classic doesn't mean they have to be in every single release. There's plenty of other characters that were never given a chance to shine, such as Fujin, Sektor, Kabal, Smoke, Baraka, or even Jade (who's really only been in UMK3). Luckily two of them have already been confirmed for Deception. If they needed up taking a space instead of Sonya, I wouldn't be complaining.

If she does come back, I have no right to be angry though. Deception's already bringing back Mileena, Baraka, Kabal, Sindel, and Nightwolf, five of my favorite under-used characters to date (all of which have only been in a single 'main' Mortal Kombat). Still, if they include Sektor, Ed Boon and company could throw in Sonya twenty different times and I'd be happy. smile

Perhaps 'sucks' was a harsh word to use, because I always liked her in MK 1 and 3, and it's not like she was the worst in MK 4 and DA, but she's just not exciting like she used to. It's just a little upsetting that the same basic characters, Scorpion, Jax, Sub-Zero, Kung Lao, Sonya, Johnny Cage, and even Kano (aka Jarek in MK 4) have to be put in pretty much *every* game (I realize that Kung Lao wasn't in MK 4, but still he was in 2, 3, and DA). They're all classic characters, yes, but up until Deception there has been plenty of potential classics that have been denied.

The way it's shaping, Cyrax will probably get screwed out of Deception, which is lame since he was really only in MK 3 and DA (MK Gold is just an update of MK 4, so not part of the 'main' series, which is why DA's 'MK History' only covered MK 1, 2, 3, and 4, leaving out UMK 3, MKT, and MKG). I doubt Kitana, Jax, Johnny Cage, Kung Lao, and Sonya would all return as well, since there's only, what, three classic character slots left? Anyone of those characters would probably get prioty over someone like Sektor, Smoke, or Fujin.

What I'm saying is that the standards (Sub, Scorp, Jax, Sonya, Johnny Cage, Kano, and Kung Lao) are nice, it wouldn't kill anyone to leave them out and give the lesser knowns a second chance. Still, with Ermac, Noob, Nightwolf, Sindel, Mileena, Kabal, and Baraka all back, and only three classic slots left, that's exactly what happened. At least it shows Boon is trying to give the others a chance, so I won't complain if another standard comes back. We already got seven under-used characters making Deception, which is honestly more than I could have hoped. Still, I'd say throw in Sektor and make it an even eight, but that's because I'm a silly fanboy. smile

queve Wrote: TomTaz Wrote:
Exactly. She is more then just a fan fave. Sonya rocks! Mk, Mk3, MkU, MKT, MK4, MkG, MKDA...
Which is exactly my point. MK 3 (and UMK3 and MKT), MK4 (and Gold), and DA. She was *not* been in a MK game since the second one. She's just as classic a character as Johnny Cage or Scorpion. It's only fair to let the lesser knowns get a chance to shine instead of someone like Sonya or Jax. All the standards need to miss out once in a while. Sonya and Kano missed MK 2, Scorpion and Raiden missed MK 3, and Kung Lao missed MK 4. If someone like Jax, Sonya, or Kung Lao didn't appear in Deception to make way for a lesser character, I wouldn't complain (unless it was someone like Bo Rai Cho, Jarek, or Tanya).
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03/20/2004 09:23 PM (UTC)
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I personally think Sonya's character has gotten very tired, and her and Jax should be left out of a game or two.
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03/20/2004 11:37 PM (UTC)
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id like to see her return but id like her to have her energy rings attack and a leg grap attack and id like her to look more feminin cause to me she looked like a drag queen in MK:DA , id like to see her with a longish pony tail kinda like the one in mk3 and id like her to have her green look again if they could fit that it ? but this is just what i would like lol
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03/21/2004 01:06 AM (UTC)
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well I personnally want Sonya back. I never really liked her untill MK:DA but, still I want her back.

I have had the funnyest things happen when I was using or v.s her. Also my bro would always use scorpion and beat me. I picked Sonya and kiked him in the rear end.

She has kinda been in all MK games. In MK 2 they put her in the background of were you face Shao Khan or Kintaro or both I don't remeber. This shows how important she is. Also MK:SF was supose to have Sonya and Jax but, Tobais left in the middle of making it and the hurryed it up and made it jaxs only.

Well I guess her story could be old but, since this is called Deception they could have Sonya and a member of SF(hopefully Jaxs) get to Kano and have Sonya decive the hole SF team and kill the member that came with her becasue, this hole time she was in love with Kano lol.

I would like her back if they do not have her in the game atlest have her in the story

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03/21/2004 01:23 AM (UTC)
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I hope she does return. I think they should take Kabal's slot and give it to Sonya. The story has been built-up, all they need to do is play it out.
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03/21/2004 04:44 AM (UTC)
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And why do you think it is that she HAS appeared in every MK since 2? (Not counting the non fighting games, in which she was supposed to have appeared in one.) Because they realized what an awsome character she is and that as popular as MK 2 was (Still a favorite of mine) it was a mistake for her not to be there. Hopefully they will use the same logic here.


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