Yes... what's there to discuss about Chameleon aka Fuckface? Because of him, we're denied the Khameleon that did have a story in this so-called epic storyline finale game. *sighs* The MK Team just decided to go with him because of the male ninja thing... (more than likely anyway)
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09/08/2006 02:12 AM (UTC)
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ProudNintendofan Wrote:
Yes... what's there to discuss about Chameleon aka Fuckface? Because of him, we're denied the Khameleon that did have a story in this so-called epic storyline finale game. *sighs* The MK Team just decided to go with him because of the male ninja thing... (more than likely anyway)

actually i beleive it was daegon that knocked her out because no one would have noticed if he was left out at all while there was basis for chameleon and meat being put in daegon is uneccesary and is the one that really bumped khameleon out
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09/08/2006 03:11 AM (UTC)
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My views on Chameleon:

He was a novelty in MKT, one I found to be pretty interesting.

For fuck's sake, what is he doing with Crane?

Chameleon > Khameleon
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09/08/2006 03:27 AM (UTC)
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What's more fascinating? A bear shitting in the woods, or Chameleon's plotline?

No offense to the Chameleon fans, though. Of course, I'm quite certain you only like him because OMG HE'S A NINJA! I don't see anything remotely interesting about him. I'd feel the same way about Khameleon if she wasn't confirmed as Saurian and a possible Reptile ally. My point is that Chameleon's backstory will be pretty generic and will end generically. Not after I kreate a Khameleon and whip his lilly ass around, of course. grin
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09/08/2006 03:45 AM (UTC)
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Ok, so we're dissapointed we don't have Khameleon, because they started her story, and seem to be going no where with it.

Yet you really can't count Chameleon out just yet, can't assume he'll have a bogus story. Apparently he's been hinted as being one of the mightest warriors out there, he seems like he'll be Shao Kahns right hand man, he's even placed infront of him in the render...
For some reason he has green blood, which seems to hint that he himself may be Saurian, so don't count out a good story so far, and don't assume what they had going with Khameleon wouldn't have ended up being a joke anyways.
I mean her and Reptile getting togeter and reforming the race sort of seemed generic to me...

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09/08/2006 06:27 AM (UTC)
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We're not assuming anything, we know for a fact that his story in MK:A is "bogus" and that his nickname is well earned because of it.
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09/08/2006 11:55 AM (UTC)
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Oh, well I have tried not to ruin any of the endings for myself, so I wouldn't know about the GC endings.
Although I think they are just placeholders from what I heard.
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09/08/2006 12:10 PM (UTC)
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Well... this thread is the Official Story End Thread, and I dont see how we can speculate the end of a characters story if he doesnt have one ("One of Shao Kahn's deadliest warriors" is not a story). So I dont really have anything to say about fuckface...

Just one question: People are speculating that fuckface is a raptor, and we know Khameleon is - why did Reptile get completely different abilities than the other Raptors?
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09/08/2006 01:36 PM (UTC)
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Unlike the majority of fans I quite like Chameleon he was always an interesting fighting experience both to fight as and against. His major problem was he was never given a true story, but I hope the MK Team will solve this.

I think he should either continue being Shao Khan's deadliest warrior if the Emperor is to survive or become a powerful neutral warrior, a lone wolf, that seeks to prove himself by defeating the greatest of warriors.

A more unexpected ending would be for him to seek obtaining independence from Shao Khan by fighting his master and also try to form a separate personality being sick of imitating others and wanting to prove himself as a new Chameleon.

I think most people hate him, just because they believe he took Khamaleon's spot in the game and this is quite stupid, 1 because it isn't the characters fault, but the MK Team's fault and 2 they are jumping to rash decisions I really think Khameleon is going to be in the game somehow. And please refrain from calling him fuckface it is totally immature.
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09/08/2006 01:53 PM (UTC)
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andrewbwm Wrote:
And please refrain from calling him fuckface it is totally immature.


Lol, I apologize if I offended anyone. I just dont appreciate the fact that Chameleon got in over Khameleon, though I understand it isnt Cham's fault. But yeah... sorry
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09/08/2006 02:02 PM (UTC)
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Anyways, I am almost willing to bet that Khameleon, and maybe even Tremor will make it to the Wii version...
We figured they wouldn't have anything to add to it like they've done before, but they will, probably an expanded KaK as well.
We will get our Khameleon in due time.
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09/08/2006 03:33 PM (UTC)
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I have nothing really to say about Chameleon.

Tremor should not make it into the Wii version. Khameleon better be in the Wii version if she's not an ultra-secret character.

Tremor and Chameleon are not characters in my eyes...fecking ninjas...

Khameleon>Chameleon.
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09/08/2006 06:35 PM (UTC)
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I said Chameleon wouldn't last long, and given the replies, I don't think I'll be giving out many DPs for him... In any case, onward, to the Motaro discussion!
Motaro's a Centaurian (look at Sheeva's storyline in MK3) from Outworld and was the leader of the Extermination Squads during the events of MK3-MKT. After Kano was thrown off the Rooftop by Sonya, Motaro rescued him and brought him back to health, but only for the purpose of imprisoning him and to execute him later... The thing is, after Goro and Kintaro went MIA, Motaro's race became Shao Kahn's favourite, and so Centaurians were persectuing the Shokan, sparking a hatred between him and Sindel's protector, Sheeva. Sheeva finally snapped after she found out that her people were being tormented by Shao Kahn and his men, so she killed Motaro.
Now we know that Motaro has only two legs, and I'm assuming that the reason for this has already been revealed thanks to the endings, but don't bring it up here - got to leave us some imagination.
I think that Motaro will coming back in the next-gen, and he will have his four legs at that point. I'm surprised that he's not favoured nearly as much as Kintaro, despite having more of a storyline connection to other characters than Kintaro, and at least his fate was clear. In any case, I think he'll survive and find a way to come back with four legs, and cause some havoc in MK8.
Not much to say about Motaro for obvious reasons, of the three sub-bosses (Goro, Kintaro, Motaro) he was always my least favorite.

Personally, I don't care much for him and I honestly don't see him making it into the next-gen... one thing that irks me is that that people were going like: "Where's Motaro? I want him in!" when MK:A was first revealed. And then they found out that he was in it and people were like: "I want to see Motaro now!"

Then they found out that he only has two legs now. And people are like: "WTF? Motaro sucks!" Um... yeah people, make up your damn minds... And the reason why they did give him two legs is probably so that he wouldn't be insanely broken, which was right the thing to do.
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09/08/2006 08:58 PM (UTC)
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I think for the sake of his storyline Motaro shouldn't have been a playable character in Armageddon. Having two legs just really is a big stab in his plot. That being said I still really like Motaro as a character. The centaurs are a nice addition to the MK races and I hope to see more of them. However, I still much prefer Sheeva over Motaro and I'm glad she got to kill him before.
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09/08/2006 09:42 PM (UTC)
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Well considering how the first saga of MK has favored the Shokan (with 3 known members), I agree with Jerrod's idea that Motaro will be back in the next generation, albiet with more centaurians, reversing the current trend. I'd imagine he'd become the leader of the centaurians since there's never an unplayable leader of anything.

However, I'm still not seeing him with 4 legs though. Not playable at any rate. I think while he'll bring his race to the forefront of the events in Outworld and become a major player, he and his race will have to suffer being bipedal.
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09/08/2006 09:56 PM (UTC)
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Sorry, but like I've been saying the whole time, any off-topic discussion gets deleted; you can talk about Chameleon when we do the general MK3 cast discussion.
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09/08/2006 11:58 PM (UTC)
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i've always been very iffy on motaro but i really like his new look (sure im dissapointed that he's missing his trademark but whatever)

i think he'll die in the end of this game because even in the next gen i don't think midway could pull of a four legged 3Dfighter in a 2 legged 3Dfighting game

i hope they write him out well but i can't see him showing up again
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09/09/2006 01:56 AM (UTC)
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I think that Motaro will mainly interact with Kintaro. Kintaro doesn't really have much of a storyline, and this would be a good way to have two characters with one storyline. I think they should have some sort of rivalry where they battle for Kahn's favouritism.

Why didn't I include Sheeva in this feud with Motaro? She has bigger things to do - she has Kahn to deal with and no doubt will turn to the Edenians.
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09/09/2006 02:11 AM (UTC)
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I made it specifically clear that the ending not be revealed in this thread.
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I had to change this because taven and daegon are playable so its like really lame

09/09/2006 03:10 AM (UTC)
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motaro isnt that bad guys... the only thinkg i dny like about him is his tail
he will possibly surive probebly caus he'll be bak in next gen with 4 legs
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09/09/2006 04:29 AM (UTC)
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Jeremyownswithbaraka Wrote:
motaro isnt that bad guys... the only thinkg i dny like about him is his tail
he will possibly surive probebly caus he'll be bak in next gen with 4 legs

Maybe.Your probbably right because motaro has an advantage.He has four leggs.Motaro might be the subb-boss which I think would be cool.
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09/09/2006 09:03 AM (UTC)
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I like his new look, and I think I'll play him more than Goro. Goro never interested me, same with Sheeva, or Kintaro. Eh, we'll see.
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09/09/2006 05:11 PM (UTC)
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Motaro's always been cool to me. He was particularly intimidating in MK3, mainly because of his shear size and ability to deflect projectiles. That meant you had to get up close and personal to the big guy, something that had never been done with a sub-boss before in MK. Unfortunately his time was cut short after being killed by Sheeva (she didn't last longer either though, show I guess karma's a bitch). Then, MKA was announced, everybody was excited by the return of the Centaurian. People didn't really get the Motaro they wanted though - something was missing. Like two legs. Although I have no problem with his Minotaur or whatever he is, I just hope the MK team can come up with a good reason why he is like that - and the "magic" reason doesn't cut it for me!

The main question on everyone's mind this game is what side will Motaro be allying himself with? I really doubt that it will be Shao Kahn, since he has the support of the Shokans again, and we know that Shokans + Centuarians = does not mix. I'm guessing that Boon will probably put him with Onaga, although I would much rather see him fighting for his own people, or allying with Edenian forces to strike back at Kahn. That would be too unpredictable for them though...they want used and reused formulas, as we all know.

As for fueds, once of the most intense battles MK would ever see would be something like Motaro vs. Goro or Kintaro. I'd rather he'd fight the latter, since Goro seems to have a fued with Cage now. That would be one destructive fight! I'd rather see Kintaro come out on top, though, he's still better, and it seems that Motaro really won't have a place in MK after this.

Then we have the wonderful triangle of hate, Motaro, Kano, and Sheeva. Seems these three probably really loathe each other at this point, and seeing Kano get his ass whipped around by Motaro would give me no greater pleasure, but that's a job best left for Sonya. And of course, we know there will be a meeting between Sheeva and Motaro, it's written in the books. Sheeva is bound to die this game anyways, so let Motaro do it.

About Motaro allying himself with his own people - I just remember that they seem to hate him and have cursed him now (by giving him two legs), so that possibility might be out. So that means he will most likely be with Onaga. But Motaro could find a way to redeem himself, so he always has a possibility to return next gen.
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09/09/2006 08:41 PM (UTC)
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Jerrod wrote:Now we know that Motaro has only two legs, and I'm assuming that the reason for this has already been revealed thanks to the endings, but don't bring it up here - got to leave us some imagination.

Why you said so?
You can tell me his ending i don't take care about the surprise of his ending,therefore if you have some explanation tell us without fear.
Now i'll say one stupid thing,but i can't stop it:Midway has tranformed Motaro from a centaurian in to a minotaur!
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