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jojo00
08/23/2004 05:36 AM (UTC)
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Looks like blood to me.
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Sub_One-Niner
08/23/2004 05:40 AM (UTC)
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I don't know Temp. I'd be willing to bet that these pics are showing blood and they just happen to be similar pics. I scanned over them and they aren't exactly the same though from what I can tell. The ideas that you threw out are pretty kick ass though. I'm partial to the muscle one.

By the way, I'm 99.9% sure that Smoke has both arms. We haven't seen anything on dismemberment during the match yet but it's not a bad idea since it would add to the "DEPTH" of the game. The pic angle just doesn't show it.
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The_Cold_Kombatant
08/23/2004 05:44 AM (UTC)
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IT'S BLOOD
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08/23/2004 05:50 AM (UTC)
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AberzX Wrote:


LOL. I never said it was an opinion, did I? It's a common-sense fact. You can ban me from this site if the game is released and that red stuff turns out to be a part of his mask, and not blood.

Bullshit. You can throw out comments and call them facts if you wish, but it's still an opinion. But if fate shows that the red matter isn't blood, I can't really do anything to you. There is no rule that says you can't be close-minded.

Everyone else: Look at the pics again.

1) The red matters seems to have edges much like the silver blade on the mask(more so on the IGN pic).

2) You guys are riding this coincidence theory pretty far. Again, two different attacks aren't likely to spread blood in the exact same place with the same shape.

3) There is a distinct color difference in both pictures. I doubt the backround lighting has that much affect.

But you guys can believe what you want. Still, saying it's just blood is a hell of a far-fetched argument at this point.
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theonaga
08/23/2004 06:18 AM (UTC)
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what a stupid post,is there a point to this or what. its not like u made a discovery that will change MKD. who cares if its blood,who cares if its not. what a waste of time i guess,cause theres really nothing to talk about MKD until it comes out, hey maybe that isnt smoke,maybe its a different character,LMFAO. as of the words of shao kahn "PATHETIC"
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CrowClock
08/23/2004 06:25 AM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName is right. the mask and the head does look odd. Yeah it's not blood alright
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Kamionero
08/23/2004 06:41 AM (UTC)
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It's just blood.. Its the same shade of red as blood, and it looks like that cheap DA blood.. Plus in the select screen u can clearly see smoke's silhuette and all those red balls whould sure show up! But they are not there.. so it's blood...
Plus, why would they add red balls to a fighter who is called Smoke, dressed in a 100% gray costume and he himself is grey...

Just look at it once more... he is being stabbd and whacked... he's just bleeding
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Ko-jah
08/23/2004 07:07 AM (UTC)
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it is clearly blood, no question about it. there is too much inconsistency in the pattern between the two pics for it to be part of the mask.

pic 1 (dairou)
their is a blood trail that clearly masks the very edge, making it hard to distinguish the end of the mask and the start of smokes transparent head. in the second pic you can clearly see the edge of the mask in all its glory.

pic 1 has no 'splotch' in the dark *mouth* region of the mask and pic 2 clearly shows a splotch.

pic 1 shows that there is no splotches over the brow line on the mask whereas pic two shows splotches extending onto the forhead of smoke.

the two consistencies of the splotches is the one on the back of his cranium in both pics and the splotch over the eye area, which is arguably consistent (same place yet slightly different volume)

as for the different colour the 'blood' comming from the head is of a finer texture than the thicker, larger blood globules off smokes body. therefore taking into consideration the 3D shading, the edges of each globule will tint slightly giving it a more definable 3D image. the smaller the globule the larger the ratio of tinted red to vibrant red thus slightly dulling the colour overall.
also the blood on smokes head is against the dark background of his mask in comparison to the lighter general background, this can also have a marginal affect on the colour of the blood.

and on a side note all of you guys not liking smokes costume, one thing i noticed from these two pics is that smokes mask (the silver coloured brow and center piece that flicks up over the forehead) bears close resemblance to sub zeros helmet and the pattern of the silver bits on it. looks like smoke is definately come back to join subby eh?

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08/23/2004 07:21 AM (UTC)
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Ko-jah Wrote:
iand on a side note all of you guys not liking smokes costume, one thing i noticed from these two pics is that smokes mask (the silver coloured brow and center piece that flicks up over the forehead) bears close resemblance to sub zeros helmet and the pattern of the silver bits on it. looks like smoke is definately come back to join subby eh?


ABOUT TIME!!! I want smoke to be a NON secret character who fulfills his story as Sub's friend!
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08/23/2004 08:37 AM (UTC)
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it's bloody-diddily-ud neighborinno.
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08/23/2004 09:07 AM (UTC)
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theonaga Wrote:
what a stupid post,is there a point to this or what. its not like u made a discovery that will change MKD. who cares if its blood,who cares if its not. what a waste of time i guess,cause theres really nothing to talk about MKD until it comes out, hey maybe that isnt smoke,maybe its a different character,LMFAO. as of the words of shao kahn "PATHETIC"


You are relatively new, So I'll tell you this: Temp is a very respected user here. Watch that tone. He's making a valid point - there ARE similarities between the pics. I myself still think it's blood, but I can at least see where he's coming from. Don't go around badmouthing the topic at hand unless you bring something relevant to the conversation.

And for the record, quoting Shao Kahn just makes you seem petty. Just to let you know.

Anyway, for the love of Zombie Jeebus, people:





I've outlined and shaded things in white, and here are the conclusions I've come to:

1) Rain is indeed in MKD. >_>

2) Smoke has both arms and legs. Obvious in the first, but in the second, his right arm is kind of hidden, and the lower leg is almost impossible to see. I think personally that there's a 'shimmering invisibility' animation in effect for him, making parts of him flash in and out of vision at times.

3) To the heart of this matter: You know what? Everyone is right. That's blood. But you know what else? I think what we're seeing here is a small animation touch. Remember how Sub-Zero exhaled frosty breath in MKDA?

Who's to say that they couldn't implement a permanent bleeding point for Smoke?

That's right. I think Smoke's bleeding from his face on a permanent basis. It seems strange, I know, but consider this, the one thing both pictures have in common: A reddening at the back of the head.

IMO, that's part of his BRAIN.

All this strengthens my theory that somehow, Smoke de-cybernized himself in a permanent and painful manner, and now has to stay in a half-corporeal state in order to avoid excruciating pain. Or maybe it's something involving Noob Saibot - Boon did say the two were connected.

At any rate, it's certain that something is very wrong with our favorite gray ninja...sad
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Jhonny
08/23/2004 09:16 AM (UTC)
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Who is hitting Smoke in the first pic?
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Obreck
08/23/2004 09:18 AM (UTC)
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Whatever the red stuff is it is not the same shape in both pics. Look at the "globs" on the back of his head: On the Dariou pic it extends all the way to the bottom of Smoke's neck. On the Baraka pics the stuff stops before his mask's bottom. The "globs" also angle outward on the Dariou pic like fins, so if it was consistant in both pics you'd be able to clearly see them on the Baraka pic. It's almost definately just gushing blood.

I suppose we'll just have to wait till we get a shot of Smoke not being hit/sliced in the head to get a definative answer.
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08/23/2004 09:25 AM (UTC)
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After watching those pic for a while now... I came to the conclusion that it might not be blood, because if you look at the pic Baraka vs Smoke there is blood between both of them. However the blood that is between both of them is more lighter than the one smoke has on his face. I think that thing that smoke has on his face looks like "pieces" of meat to me, or something like that! confused
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Jhonny
08/23/2004 09:30 AM (UTC)
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Dairou ok thanks.
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08/23/2004 11:27 AM (UTC)
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Actually, isn't this his leg and foot?



Can clearly see both hands in the other pic.

Back on topic though..
I think it is blood, it's just a coincidence that it's showing the same location on the head. I hear what Temp is saying though, but i don't believe it. It has to be blood
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08/23/2004 03:52 PM (UTC)
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From what I can see, that's Dairou's thigh you're circling.
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wedgegold
08/23/2004 03:59 PM (UTC)
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I brightened up the pic to see that Smoke's Leg hooks under Dairou. As for the face, I can see it better. Looks like blood splater.

Think it would be ok to post?
Yes, please.
wedgegold Wrote:
I brightened up the pic to see that Smoke's Leg hooks under Dairou. As for the face, I can see it better. Looks like blood splater.

Think it would be ok to post?

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specialblend
08/23/2004 04:11 PM (UTC)
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I think that it's blood from the fight, you have a very good theory temp. Maybe I'm just hoping its blood from the fight because I dont want smoke to look all mangled.
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AberzX
08/23/2004 04:48 PM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
AberzX Wrote:


LOL. I never said it was an opinion, did I? It's a common-sense fact. You can ban me from this site if the game is released and that red stuff turns out to be a part of his mask, and not blood.

Bullshit. You can throw out comments and call them facts if you wish, but it's still an opinion. But if fate shows that the red matter isn't blood, I can't really do anything to you. There is no rule that says you can't be close-minded.

Everyone else: Look at the pics again.

1) The red matters seems to have edges much like the silver blade on the mask(more so on the IGN pic).

2) You guys are riding this coincidence theory pretty far. Again, two different attacks aren't likely to spread blood in the exact same place with the same shape.

3) There is a distinct color difference in both pictures. I doubt the backround lighting has that much affect.

But you guys can believe what you want. Still, saying it's just blood is a hell of a far-fetched argument at this point.


I didn't throw out a sigle comment about it. I stated a fact that I know is true. It's not an opinion, for the last time. This is my last post in this pointless argument.
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08/23/2004 04:59 PM (UTC)
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Whoa Mobster For Satan you just struck a cord with me. Its one thing to voice your opinion but to say you like Strykers look better then Smokes? You my friend are an idiot for even thinking such a thought let alone expressing it. I think Smoke look sweet, i mean what do you all expect Boon and co. told us that smoke was going to be just that "Smoke". I find the mask some what interesting touching on something someone else said in this thread it might not even be a mask that could be his mutlated face after being automated by the Lin Kuei.
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08/23/2004 05:34 PM (UTC)
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Yes that is correct the most intelligent post I have ever seen im my life. Smoke...elemental form, and mineral rock on his mask, that has to be it we better call IGN and Gamespot, XM, PSM, Gamepro and let them no that now smoke is now half smoke/half mineral rock to form a awsome new character called Mineral Smoke...and watch out because Mineral Smoke will own all!!!! LOL most worthless post ever its fricken blood a retarted three year old could tell that. Im out, peace.
I said Stryker's look was more thought out than Smoke's. Damn, read it again. How can anyone like Smoke's look? Gloves,Pants,mask and he is transparnt.....he is worthless. If they show us a better look for Smoke then i'll like him. But for now on he looks LAME and STUPID.
BringBackReptile Wrote:
Whoa Mobster For Satan you just struck a cord with me. Its one thing to voice your opinion but to say you like Strykers look better then Smokes? You my friend are an idiot for even thinking such a thought let alone expressing it. I think Smoke look sweet, i mean what do you all expect Boon and co. told us that smoke was going to be just that "Smoke". I find the mask some what interesting touching on something someone else said in this thread it might not even be a mask that could be his mutlated face after being automated by the Lin Kuei.

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08/23/2004 05:49 PM (UTC)
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BringBackReptile Wrote:
Whoa Mobster For Satan you just struck a cord with me. Its one thing to voice your opinion but to say you like Strykers look better then Smokes? You my friend are an idiot for even thinking such a thought let alone expressing it. I think Smoke look sweet, i mean what do you all expect Boon and co. told us that smoke was going to be just that "Smoke". I find the mask some what interesting touching on something someone else said in this thread it might not even be a mask that could be his mutlated face after being automated by the Lin Kuei.


its an opinion buddy. why do you have to call someone an idiot for thinking differently? a lot of people think sonya is cool, but i think she sucks and i would pick any other female fighter over her anyday, because she never struck me as great character. i said this before, but no one who had a high opinion of sonya called me an idiot. opinions are opinions no matter what they are, you cant call someone an idiot for that. if that logic were true, i could pretty much call you an idiot for liking a costume that consists of gloves and really gay pants. i mean come on! i know the mk team wanted to be creative and make it look like smokes has an entire transparent body, but the holes at the side of the pants are incredibly, homosexual-like. and the gloves... thats just disturbing when you have no shirt on...
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