Why would they scrap characters like Bellok from MK4? Why would they scrap Select Screens from older revisions, or change shadows/silhouettes on the Select Screen?...
If Smoke and Noob were two different characters, there'd be 25. Since they combined, they made room for on other character.
The video is old.

This game has been worked on for over 2 years. That was 4 months ago. Why would they cut something 5 months before release? Did you even watch the interview?

Well, it's still possible. I'm crossing my fingers.

Yes, I did. Twice! Why would they cut the select screen and whatnot 3 months before it's release?! (E3)

ninja_arts Wrote: That's old though, from when Smoke and Noob were two seperate Characters, before that even.

How do you know they were ever intended to be separate characters? This could have been the plan from the start of development.
Either way, two weeks ago you believed the guy on Gamefaqs about the Prima Strategy Guide BS and now you say there are none. As for myself? I'll just wait an see.

Eh, I believed him because I believed what people were telling me. Now this is on fact, and what a member currently posted and states as a FACT. Who plays the game, and actually proves somewhat trustworthy. It's logical that he's right.
I'm not saying anything here. I just don't want any of my own hopes up, or anyone else's. The game looks good as is. If there's no extras then oh well.

They didn't cut the select screen. Anyways so you'd rather believe a person on this message board than the guy who creted the game Eb Boon?

Ed Boon's deceieved us before. Why not again?
I'm not saying I don't believe him. But he's the same guy who stated that certain characters were playable, and no word.

But has he ever flat-out lied? No. This would be a flat out lie, and I'm sure could constitute as false advertising if he doesn't retract the statement prior to the release. He said it himself, there are 12 selectable, 12 unlockable, and a few "super" unlockables. And I don't remember him saying anything about a character that we haven't already seen.

ninja_arts Wrote: Ed Boon's deceieved us before. Why not again? I'm not saying I don't believe him. But he's the same guy who stated that certain characters were playable, and no word.

I suppose you're right.

I'm not busting your balls or anything because we simply do not know as much about this game as we'd like to think. The guy who planned Konquest was playing an unfinished version of the game, these characters could have been intentionally locked to prevent this kind of leak. Also, from the interviews we've read, finding EVERYTHING in Konquest is an incredibly difficult task (like some things you have to look for at a specific time), I doubt he's played the game that much to find everything to begin with. If in fact there is something else to find.

As I said in the other topic, Midway confirmed there are only 24 playable characters in Kombat/Chess modes. I'm not withholding info on that, if I was, I wouldn't say Midway said there were only 24.
However, I also saw the topic on Puzzle Kombat, with more characters shown in Puzzle form. I can't explain this at all. It could be that Midway is holding back from EVERYONE and I do mean EVERYONE, or they cut some puzzle characters.
As far as the number of unlockables... technically there are 18 unlockable characters. 12 for Kombat/Chess, and 6 for Puzzle. Has it ever been said that all 36, 30, 25, or however many characters were all playable in Kombat mode, or could they be spread out through all of the modes?

every single MK ever made had secret characters.... and this is ganna be one of the best MK's ever made.. they arent going to jepordize that with no secrets!

To play devil's advocate, you already have secret characters... the 12 you unlock. However, that still doesn't explain why Boon ever uttered the phrase "super unlockables."

Chameleon666 Wrote: every single MK ever made had secret characters.... and this is ganna be one of the best MK's ever made.. they arent going to jepordize that with no secrets!

And Dr. Dogg, I wouldn't see it as Midway lying to you, I mean afterall, they never told any reviewers about Noob, Smoke, Jade, Reptile, or the Kintaro Fatality.

But how many reviewers asked about Noob, Smoke, Jade, Reptile, etc? Midway was directly asked, are there more than 24 playable characters. To that, they replied with no.

Touche... However, the entertainment industry is notorious for deceiving people in order to keep big secrets from getting out. Hell, original movie posters for Return of the Jedi said "Revenge of the Jedi." I'm not saying that there definitely are these super unlockables, but it is likely that Midway could be lying to you.

DrDogg Wrote: But how many reviewers asked about Noob, Smoke, Jade, Reptile, etc? Midway was directly asked, are there more than 24 playable characters. To that, they replied with no.

Before I post a comment about this there is something I have to say to Ninja-arts.
Your credibility and anything you say is mere opinion and I take it as bullshit. You posted your "email" from Brady games specifically naming the 6 Supers and you even had the nerve to ARGUE with people to state your case about how YOU WERE RIGHT. Your facts changed in your arguement as your "email" turned into a "phone call" where you called Brady games and they told you the 6 Supers. Now you flip flop. Is your real life name John Kerry???
FACTS:
1. Boon (you know him right???) is on record STATING there will be Super unlockable characters that you get buy RETURING to Konquest after you have finished it in side quest and such. And I quote Dr. Dogg.
"... Even if you get everything the first time through (doubtful), there are a lot of things you can't do until you complete Konquest. You can't even access half of Netherrealm and Chaosrealm until you've completed Konquest. My issue is that once everything is unlocked, there's really no reason to go back. It wasn't really that fun, and once you've got everything, there's really no point because you've seen it all."
There are parts you can't get to UNTIL you finish....MORE KONTENT....that Dr. Dogg apparently has not touched. Has he finished to game in its entirety??? NO. Did he receive a FINAL build of the game??? NO. It was a friends in which he had "LIMITED" time to play.
2. Dr. Dogg is making his BOLD statement from passed on info.....his friends Midway contact could have been the dam janitor or anyone..CMON...
If Boon said it, which he DID. Then I am holding him to it. If he lied then I will take my issue up with him. Right now my issue is with Ninja-Arts spreading speculation on all fronts, from his "Brady games source" to now "Dr. Doggs friend of a friend at Midway". Choose to believe whom you must but Ninja-Arts you really need to stop forming FACTS on very and I mean very poor sources.
Man I have been waiting for you to screw up like this for a looong time. Now you've done it.
FACTS or heresay??? I choose facts

First off Widomaker, let me state, you my friend are an asshole. First off, I never stated anything about a phone call,it was an email. My Speculation listed here, is something taken directly from another damn thread! Another thing is, I never said they gave me the 6 supers. I was told (Get this, TOLD) by a source who said he was inside Midway that those were the 6.
Another thing is, your own facts are off. DrDogg knows and played the damn build of MK D, and asked Midway Directly about extras and the character count. Did you, Widomaker? Do you believe half the shit you hear on TV, I guess so, because you believe a damn video. Remember when we saw Screen Shots of Bellokk in Mk Gold, Damn that didn't happen, did it? I don't think so.
I'm only stating here, nobody get their hopes up. The game is fine with those 24, even without the secret characters, it's fine. Nobody get their dreams crushed when there are no "Super secrets".
Widomaker, I never screwed up. I believed the wrong person who'd told me the 6. Obviously that person isn't trustworthy. You're the asshole trying to pick a fight over nothing at all. A call was never made, and I never stated that. I don't know anyone at Midway, Never said I did. You're fooling yourself if you think you're acting tough online, and trying to pin me to something. I sent an email asking a damn question, that's it. That was well over months ago. Now, something new has come up, and it's also stated as fact, and you're quick to go against it, because you refuse to believe what's truth. Just because Ed Boon said it, doesn't mean shit. He said there'd be more then 24, this could apply to Puzzle, as well as some other alterations.

We'll find out in 2 weeks when the strategy guide is released. Secret unlockables or no, MKD is still gonna be a kickass game.

DrDogg Wrote: As I said in the other topic, Midway confirmed there are only 24 playable characters in Kombat/Chess modes. I'm not withholding info on that, if I was, I wouldn't say Midway said there were only 24. However, I also saw the topic on Puzzle Kombat, with more characters shown in Puzzle form. I can't explain this at all. It could be that Midway is holding back from EVERYONE and I do mean EVERYONE, or they cut some puzzle characters. As far as the number of unlockables... technically there are 18 unlockable characters. 12 for Kombat/Chess, and 6 for Puzzle. Has it ever been said that all 36, 30, 25, or however many characters were all playable in Kombat mode, or could they be spread out through all of the modes?

That's horseshit if the "super unlockables" are only used for puzzle. What the hell is the point to that? Let's get everyone going about super secret characters only for them to find out that the only secret ones are ones that you can't even fight with. That's lame as all hell to just have them in puzzle.
All you get to do is kick someones ass in that game while you get to watch your little deformed Stryker tazer someone, but not getting to actually play as Stryker. That's a cocktease and I'm sure will piss alot of people off since Boon technically didn't lie, he just didn't say where the super secret guys were going to be put.

I think there will be a Mokap/Blaze kind of character... since they don't really count as characters, I guess they could be in...
No secret characters would make this MK the 1st of that kind.,.. and after all the work they put into it, I doubt they would leave something like that out

Alrighty then!! Thanks for both your input you guys should fight it out on line when the game is out.....peace my MK BROTHERS.................

ninja_Arts Wrote: First off Widomaker, let me state, you my friend are an asshole.

Nice to see I have driven you to name calling. Please keep this adult and dont show your age.

ninja_Arts Wrote: First off, I never stated anything about a phone call,it was an email.

Ninja-arts quote.... "That said, I'm saying he's right, because of a Source I have, is as good as Konqrr's or anyone else's. I was told this exact roster, even the Noob Smoke tag team deal. I ALSO myself contacted BRADY GAMES, because no one else would, and got the answer that SOME secrets would not appear in the guide." That was a direct quote from you.
http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?name=mk6&message=154812
Anyone feel free to read Ninja's comments in that thread. Ninja you need to reread it yourself to check out the statements you made.

ninja_Arts Wrote: Another thing is, your own facts are off. DrDogg knows and played the damn build of MK D, and asked Midway Directly about extras and the character count.

Dr. Dogg quote...'I didn't ask Midway directly, I asked a friend who's build of the game I was playing. He directly asked Midway if 24 was the final character count, and Midway said that's it. He has the build so he can review the game for the mag he works for, so I don't know why Midway would blatantly lie to him. As far as I'm concerned there are only 24 playable characters, but if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.'
Ninja you really need to keep this discussion to the facts and only facts. Try and back things up and stop spouting crap to argue.
AGAIN BUSTED

hmm.. well mabe in there build there was only 24... mabe in the final version theres more..

I ALSO myself contacted BRADY GAMES, because no one else would, and got the answer that SOME secrets would not appear in the guide."
Contacted could mean Email, which I did. Where Did I say..."I called Brady" ?
Nowhere. I resorted to name calling, and only because of you're assumptions.
Again, DrDogg said that Midway was asked up front, Are there more then 24 Characters in the game, and they responded with a flat out "No". Check his thread.
Busted? I think not...I never said "I called", I said "I contacted" and they responded with this in an email "Due to Midway's request, some things may not appear in the strategy guide. Hope this Helps..." And so on, Wanna check? Look it up, You Brilliant Investigator, You.
You're the one picking fights here. I've also got more visits, and I've been right about alot of things here, Such as Glitches and secrets and submitting screen shots. I was only wrong a couple times, and I admit that. Stop picking fights, and Act YOUR age.