IMO, the run move wouldn't work in 3D...

psyclobex Wrote: obsessedashfan wrote Right, the graphics in this game are fantastic. The cartoonish look makes it stand out from all the other fighters which, whilst they do look realistic, also look bloody boring! I liked the graphics in MK DA, its refreshing from all the other fighters on the market which look identical to each other. Every fighting game now looks the same.Mkda graphics look exactly the same as soul calibur and tekken.MK should of stuck with actors that would make it unique no other fighting game is doing that right now.Mk started it i dont know why they stopped and jumped on the cartoonish bandwagon.

uh, you mean the digitized actors? well then the game would still be in 2D... i'd rather have 3D 'cartoony' than stiff, ultra-real 2D... and MK didn't start it, it had been around for quite some time

I don't think that the graphics look "cheap", they are a huge improvement over MKDA's graphics, textures looks alot cleaner and the models don't look as exaggerated(sp?). But they are still nowhere near the quality of DOA3.

Kringe Wrote: It'z all gameplay - new strategies near death trapz - state indicatorz - danger zonez - level weaponz - tierz - reversalz?(for everyone) FLSTYLE Wrote: ElDeR_GoD Wrote: Maybe it's because they tried to focus more on the gameplay advantages rather than the graphics, did that idea ever pop into your head? I doubt they spent that much time on the gameplay, they've spent the time on the extra modes just as much as anything, Mortal Kombat never has been a game that's big on gameplay, that's why you have fatalities, in-game cut scenes after the fights.

I was thinking more along the lines of fixing problems before introducing new stuff, eg. characters having the same movelists for different weapons, projectiles still firing in a straight line as if MK was still a 2D game, havin the least juggle friendly system I have ever seen, you have to repeat the pop-ups just to keep them airbourne.

And I really hope the reversal of which you speak that everyone will use isn't the one used in Deadly Alliance, it regulalrly glitched, it stoped fights dead for a few seconds while the characters stood there in their positions. I've said before I'd love to have parries in MK instead of reversals.

JadeDragonMeli Wrote: Why does it seem like all these "MK fans" come here just to compare MK to Tekken, SC, VF, etc, etc. Wanting the game to improve overall is one thing, but it seems like people think Boon should strive to make MK "just another fighter" in looks and gameplay. And here come the "Hey I'm a MK fan, that's why I can complain about what I think is wrong and needs to be changed" posts. Yes, we like it so much that we can bitch about it's looks, gameplay, sound, story, etc etc over and over again. Get real, if you don't like MK then go play the more "realistic" looking Tekken. I'm really tired of seeing 4-6 different topics created each day about how MK sucks in some way, and none of these topics have anything new to bring to the table. Go to a VF board and post about how much you love it please. And leave the real MK fans to our game.

Not this recycled excuse again. I suppose some of the best Tekken players over at TZ who are comparing T5's graphics to other games aren't "real" fans either *rolls eyes*. Oh, I got another, I suppose the Street Fighter fans over at SRK aren't real fans either because Capcom Fighting Jam is using recycled sprites. Why do we compare MK to other fighters? I don't know if you knew this or not. But MK is still considered a fighter. Why not compare the graphics? Is it only allowed for MK games to have sub-par graphics when other fighters have great/UN-realistic graphics? Tekken has a great fantasy look to some of it's characters. So how is that any different? DOA has a great fantasy look. Same for SC. They all have a fantasy look. MK isn't the only one.

And when other fantasy fighters look better graphically, it's called out on. It's like you sit in the corner of your room rocking back and forth with your ears covered saying to yourself "MK isn't like other fighters" 50 times a day so you'll start believing it. While you're sick of seeing topics critisizing MK, I'm just as sick seeing you cry over all of them.

Ummm i have a ps2 and my cousin has an x box and we both have deadly alliance. together we still can't find a difference in the graphics. They look the same. we even had two tvs beside each other and the same characters and stages on the screen. it just didn't look any different.

JadeRocks Wrote: Ummm i have a ps2 and my cousin has an x box and we both have deadly alliance. together we still can't find a difference in the graphics. They look the same. we even had two tvs beside each other and the same characters and stages on the screen. it just didn't look any different.

erm, well done?

ultimateryu Wrote: I dont want the characters to look realistic. I like the fantasy flair.

In the classic MK games they looked really real.

Siduu101 Wrote: I notice alot of other games graphics is looks so great,the people even looks real,like the guy in my sig.Mkdeception the graphics looks cheap,it looks like Jimmy neutron show,do you think they'll improve it?

i have to agree..i mean wouldnt u guys want an mk that had the graphics of vf4 or t4???? it would look alot more real...the graphics were one of the main reasons i first liked mk..because all the fighters looked real..which made the finishers feel real...

Who rather have the game in 2-d unstead of 3-d. I rather have 2-d it just seems more realistic and darker. Its hard to have a dark mk3-d when most of the fighters are over exaggerated and look like cartoons.

MENTHOL Wrote: Not this recycled excuse again. I suppose some of the best Tekken players over at TZ who are comparing T5's graphics to other games aren't "real" fans either *rolls eyes*. Oh, I got another, I suppose the Street Fighter fans over at SRK aren't real fans either because Capcom Fighting Jam is using recycled sprites. Why do we compare MK to other fighters? I don't know if you knew this or not. But MK is still considered a fighter. Why not compare the graphics? Is it only allowed for MK games to have sub-par graphics when other fighters have great/UN-realistic graphics? Tekken has a great fantasy look to some of it's characters. So how is that any different? DOA has a great fantasy look. Same for SC. They all have a fantasy look. MK isn't the only one. And when other fantasy fighters look better graphically, it's called out on. It's like you sit in the corner of your room rocking back and forth with your ears covered saying to yourself "MK isn't like other fighters" 50 times a day so you'll start believing it. While you're sick of seeing topics critisizing MK, I'm just as sick seeing you cry over all of them.

I'll stop crying over them when someone has something new to say. This is the same crap that has been posted for the past 3 months. I get it already. You don't like MK:D. So don't buy it. Simple enough. Why don't you all just make one "MK:D sucks" topic. Post all your whining and crying about how it's not Tekken or VF there. That way, you are happy because you get to bitch, and I am happy because I don't have to see 8 topics on the front page saying the same shit over and over. Seems like a fair deal to me.

JadeDragonMeli Wrote: MENTHOL Wrote: Not this recycled excuse again. I suppose some of the best Tekken players over at TZ who are comparing T5's graphics to other games aren't "real" fans either *rolls eyes*. Oh, I got another, I suppose the Street Fighter fans over at SRK aren't real fans either because Capcom Fighting Jam is using recycled sprites. Why do we compare MK to other fighters? I don't know if you knew this or not. But MK is still considered a fighter. Why not compare the graphics? Is it only allowed for MK games to have sub-par graphics when other fighters have great/UN-realistic graphics? Tekken has a great fantasy look to some of it's characters. So how is that any different? DOA has a great fantasy look. Same for SC. They all have a fantasy look. MK isn't the only one. And when other fantasy fighters look better graphically, it's called out on. It's like you sit in the corner of your room rocking back and forth with your ears covered saying to yourself "MK isn't like other fighters" 50 times a day so you'll start believing it. While you're sick of seeing topics critisizing MK, I'm just as sick seeing you cry over all of them. I'll stop crying over them when someone has something new to say. This is the same crap that has been posted for the past 3 months. I get it already. You don't like MK:D. So don't buy it. Simple enough. Why don't you all just make one "MK:D sucks" topic. Post all your whining and crying about how it's not Tekken or VF there. That way, you are happy because you get to bitch, and I am happy because I don't have to see 8 topics on the front page saying the same shit over and over. Seems like a fair deal to me.

Different people make topics about different aspects of MK, it's not like they talk about the same thing, this one is about graphics, others are about gameplay and others are about extras and mini-games.

All this is, is a case of people voicing their opinions, I'm sure you wouldn't be complaining if 8 threads a day were made saying MK is the best thing since sliced bread, if a lot of people think that Deception needs work to be up to the level of Tekken or VF in whatever computer game aspect the thread is about, then for the majority of people that know what they are talking about atleast can back up their opinions with valid points that you can agree on, whereas all I've seen from people who follow MK no matter what is on the selves at the end of the day are a bunch of complaints.

We're all MK fans at the end of the day, if some think MK could be better and happen to use Tekken and VF aspects of games as examples to improve on then that doesn't make them not real fans, who wouldn't want to make something better by comparing it with the finest examples of the genre.

A lot of these people still take part in other threads, play games like Boot + Immune and are a part of the MK community.

Thanks very much FLSTYLE.I'm going to get deception no matter what,but I'll like seeing real mkcharacters in the future.

I think the graphics in Mkd look great, the only thing I'm concerned with are some of the weak looking projectiles.

Hey, don't get me wrong. There are some great ideas in the "After playing VF so much MK:D looks like crap" thread. And actually I do and have gotten upset at pointless threads praising MK. Like when the picture of sub first came out and there were 4-5 "OMG Sub-Zero looks like shredder" topics made every day for about 2 weeks.

My point is the cluttering of this board with needless threads. "My storyline for so and so". My response, "Hey, that's a real cool idea for so and so, but there is already a character speculation thread stickied". To which the poster responds "But man, I didn't want to post it in there, there are already so many in there". So why is the thread even sticky then if nobody is going to use it? See my point? I mean seriously, could this thread had not of just been a post in the already growing VF topic? That thread has become about posting ideas that would make MK better, and a lot of them are justified and good, and not all of them were about gameplay changes.

And ok, I apologize on my first post. I was harsh, I admit it. But really, Boon can't please everybody. And he shouldn't strive to make his game look like any other.

JadeDragonMeli Wrote: Hey, don't get me wrong. There are some great ideas in the "After playing VF so much MK:D looks like crap" thread. And actually I do and have gotten upset at pointless threads praising MK. Like when the picture of sub first came out and there were 4-5 "OMG Sub-Zero looks like shredder" topics made every day for about 2 weeks. My point is the cluttering of this board with needless threads. "My storyline for so and so". My response, "Hey, that's a real cool idea for so and so, but there is already a character speculation thread stickied". To which the poster responds "But man, I didn't want to post it in there, there are already so many in there". So why is the thread even sticky then if nobody is going to use it? See my point? I mean seriously, could this thread had not of just been a post in the already growing VF topic? That thread has become about posting ideas that would make MK better, and a lot of them are justified and good, and not all of them were about gameplay changes. And ok, I apologize on my first post. I was harsh, I admit it. But really, Boon can't please everybody. And he shouldn't strive to make his game look like any other.

Nice to know we can all agree on the general idea then I really got to get in touch with the creator of the after playing VF4 etc. thread, and have the title of the thread changed to gameplay ideas thread or something like that, a lot of people are mistaking what that thread is about just by looking at the title of it, there's no flaming going on in it, about any games or any people, and everyone is generally having a good time thinking up new ideas for MK, any other ideas are welcome in it.

That's a gameplay thread right now,I was thinking of posting it there but most people just look at the topic and don't enter so I created it seperately.I think you guys can tell Shakazulu to change the topic to:Ideas for MK7 and more people will go there.

MKD does still look kind of cartoonish, but that doesn't really bother me too much.

I wish they would look more like real humans, like in the old games, the problem is with the modeling style, they look too chunky like some one stated earlier, but eh....It's no big deal.


The graphics in MKD do look below the standard of now days for a fighting game, but they probably have a reason for that.

Maybe they put so much stuff in to the CD, or DVD that they had to lower the resolution of the game to make the stuff fit. Or to make it play smoothly.

Who knows...

What ever the reason, I think the graphics are good enough, they probably could be better but it's OK how it is now.

It doesn't bother me much, when I'm playing the game I won't even notice it.