Why is it so hard for some people to give the 3D era characters a chance?
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12/10/2014 06:26 AM EST
thisiscourage Wrote:
...Personally, I could do with out any of the 3d Era characters. (Excluding story based characters like Shinnok and fujin)...


LOL. Fujin a story-based character? You say that like Fujin had some compelling role to play in any of the Mortal Kombats. Please... just please.

Sure, he ties into MKM:SZ's events... but no more than Jataaka. There's a reason Fujin never showed his face in MKDA and MKD. Of course, MKA does not count because who didnt show up?

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12/10/2014 09:52 AM EST
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Because most people didn't grow up with them... but your assumption is wrong, a lot of 3D era characters have a pretty strong fan base.

To my knowledge the most popular are:


Not requoting the whole list again, but Mavado hardly has any kind of sizeable fan base.

I also second the notion from another poster that Dairou, Daegon and Taven can be salvaged. Taven was like limp spaghetti but I liked him, what the hell. However, MKA blew the chance to make Daegon particularly badass and future installments can remedy that.
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thisiscourage Wrote:
...Personally, I could do with out any of the 3d Era characters. (Excluding story based characters like Shinnok and fujin)...


LOL. Fujin a story-based character? You say that like Fujin had some compelling role to play in any of the Mortal Kombats. Please... just please.

Sure, he ties into MKM:SZ's events... but no more than Jataaka. There's a reason Fujin never showed his face in MKDA and MKD. Of course, MKA does not count because who didnt show up?

The players who bemoan the 3D characters are pretty much the same ones who overrate the fuck out of guys like Fujin that have barely made a dent in the series.
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12/10/2014 09:56 AM EST
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thisiscourage Wrote:
...Personally, I could do with out any of the 3d Era characters. (Excluding story based characters like Shinnok and fujin)...


LOL. Fujin a story-based character? You say that like Fujin had some compelling role to play in any of the Mortal Kombats. Please... just please.

Sure, he ties into MKM:SZ's events... but no more than Jataaka. There's a reason Fujin never showed his face in MKDA and MKD. Of course, MKA does not count because who didnt show up?


Fujin would make good for the story, now with Raiden's mistakes in this timeline.

Fujin didn't show his face in MKDA and MKD because he wasn't included, as can be said with other characters.
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12/10/2014 10:00 AM EST
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Fujin didn't show his face in MKDA and MKD because he wasn't included, as can be said with other characters.


I think it was more like he wasn't included in those games because he wasn't deemed important to the storyline.

Case in point, with Raiden killed in the temple blast in Deception, that would've been the time for Fujin to step in, but Midway went with "Dark Raiden" instead.
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12/10/2014 10:03 AM EST
The truth is, I hated that whole era. MK should not be in 3D ever. Period. Whenever I think about those games I get a bad taste in my mouth. Played like shit and introduced the most generic fighters in MK's history. But there were some diamonds in the rough when speaking of characters.

I believe that ANY character can be salvaged. They have proven this with Stryker. There isn't one character who isn't redeemable in my eyes. Granted, joke characters like Meat and Mokap will never be popular or ever story relevant. But if you made those 2 fun to play, bonus characters that serve no part in the story I'm sure people would like them.

I'm all for giving the 3D era characters second chances.
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12/10/2014 10:13 AM EST
I just didn't like most of the characters for some reason. I was like 9 or 10 when MKDA came out and I had been playing MK1, MK2 and UMK3/T my entire life so those were the characters I liked the most. I played MK4 a lot too but I didn't like the newbies as much. Anyway, at that age I just wasn't very open to new characters unless I thought they looked cool and since most of them didn't I didn't like most of them lol

Luckily I grew out of that lol
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12/10/2014 10:22 AM EST
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DarkenedSoul Wrote:

Fujin didn't show his face in MKDA and MKD because he wasn't included, as can be said with other characters.


I think it was more like he wasn't included in those games because he wasn't deemed important to the storyline.

Case in point, with Raiden killed in the temple blast in Deception, that would've been the time for Fujin to step in, but Midway went with "Dark Raiden" instead.


They are to blame.

Fujin can still fit into this timeline though.
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12/10/2014 10:40 AM EST
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thisiscourage Wrote:
...Personally, I could do with out any of the 3d Era characters. (Excluding story based characters like Shinnok and fujin)...


LOL. Fujin a story-based character? You say that like Fujin had some compelling role to play in any of the Mortal Kombats. Please... just please.

Sure, he ties into MKM:SZ's events... but no more than Jataaka. There's a reason Fujin never showed his face in MKDA and MKD. Of course, MKA does not count because who didnt show up?


Fujin has a more compelling story driven reason to return than any other 3d Era character.

If he is included he will have a big part to play in the main story just based on the fact that he is a god and the forces of good have dwindled for earthrealm.

Again mkx is about looking forward, not looking back at the what characters did in the past. Fujin and Shinnok make more sense than any moving forward. (From a story perspective)
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Sareenas and Kobras and Meats oh my!
12/11/2014 01:39 AM EST
On this other board I visit, almost everyone hates Sareena, Ashrah, and Frost. Especially Sareena is hated. I like all those characters though. These same people love Kobra and Meat. I hate them very much. They keep insisting that they are great and will be in MKX and I keep arguing and saying no. Someone please tell me I'm not crazy and that Kobra and Meat ARE awful and Sareena, Ashrah, and Frost are okay.
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12/11/2014 01:48 AM EST
I have 3 COA for you

1. Go to bed and sort this argument out in your head.

2. Realize It is ok for people to have an opinion and not like yours.

3. Track them down and torture them until they see things your wayfurious
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RE: Sareenas and Kobras and Meats oh my!
12/11/2014 02:04 AM EST
Does this really warrant a thread?
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12/11/2014 02:26 AM EST
I just wanted to know. Are Sareena, Ashrah, and Frost really that hated? And are Kobra and Meat actually liked?
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12/11/2014 03:22 AM EST
I'm probably the only Dairou fan on this planet.

I thought he was awesome.
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12/11/2014 06:13 AM EST
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I just wanted to know. Are Sareena, Ashrah, and Frost really that hated? And are Kobra and Meat actually liked?


From what I have seen Kobra and Meat are far far far less popular than Ashrah, Sareena and Frost. I think the general consensus is that Kobra and Meat are generally among the most disliked characters, whereas most people are fairly indifferent to the ladies you mentioned. I've seen quite a few people asking for Sareena and Ashrah for MKX.
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12/11/2014 07:42 AM EST
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I'm probably the only Dairou fan on this planet.

I thought he was awesome.

M2Dave aka. Igniz here is a big Dairou fan. I did like him to. I thought the MKDA shang tsung's guardsman was a neat idea.
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12/11/2014 08:46 AM EST
I don't mind Dairou. He was kinda boring, but they could make him cool. It doesn't matter to me if he returns.
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12/11/2014 08:47 AM EST
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I just wanted to know. Are Sareena, Ashrah, and Frost really that hated? And are Kobra and Meat actually liked?


Ashrah, Sareena, Frost, and Meat all got more votes than Jax, Kano, Nightwolf, and Stryker in this poll. but i wouldn't really call them "Popular". Clearly the other 4 are more recognizable.

http://shoryuken.com/2014/06/15/which-characters-do-you-want-to-see-in-mortal-kombat-x/

it seems the characters people truly don't care about is Dairou and Daegon as they got the least amount of votes out of everyone in the poll
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12/11/2014 09:36 AM EST
Dairou was my second fave next to Havik out of the newbies in MKD.
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12/11/2014 09:48 AM EST
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MacyG88 Wrote:
I'm probably the only Dairou fan on this planet.

I thought he was awesome.

M2Dave aka. Igniz here is a big Dairou fan. I did like him to. I thought the MKDA shang tsung's guardsman was a neat idea.

I feel less lonely now.smile
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12/11/2014 09:48 AM EST
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I'm probably the only Dairou fan on this planet.

I thought he was awesome.


You're not. I didn't care for him at first but became a fan after I explored his background in depth for a story I'm currently working on.

The ignorance directed toward the character is staggering when he's no worse than some of the veterans who've long overstayed their welcome.
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12/11/2014 10:02 AM EST
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On this other board I visit, almost everyone hates Sareena, Ashrah, and Frost. Especially Sareena is hated. I like all those characters though. These same people love Kobra and Meat. I hate them very much. They keep insisting that they are great and will be in MKX and I keep arguing and saying no. Someone please tell me I'm not crazy and that Kobra and Meat ARE awful and Sareena, Ashrah, and Frost are okay.


It seems like your problem is that you can't handle other people's opinions. I like Frost, but I've seen plenty of people go out of their ways in saying that she's not a great character and should be tossed out of the series. Do I agree with them? Absolutely not, but it's their opinion. Even when I give my reason as to how she can be in X, there are people who simply disagree because they just downright don't care for her. That's fine, that is their opinion. I'm not gonna argue with them to make them realize that they're all wrong and such because I'm a fan and they're not.

You can argue with those people as much as you want, but it's not going to change their opinions as much as if they were to argue with the characters you want in. Sure I don't see Kobra and Meat being in, but I'm not going to say they're god awful characters because even the shitiest one (Darrius) can be redeemed to be made better than what they were during their debut.

I'll say that are you are crazy enough to not let people have their opinions. That's what I'm getting out of this entire post. And if you can, well... if they don't want to change their minds, they're not in the wrong, they either have their opinions or they're just trolling the crap out of you.
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12/11/2014 10:19 AM EST
I'm not interested in reading all the replies, so if what I'm about to say's already been said, then so be it.

Most fans struggle to give most of the 3D-era characters because they're close-minded twits. They hated some of those characters for standing out, and dismissed others as ripoffs for ridiculous reasons (like Li Mei using sais and wearing purple but being otherwise significantly different from Mileena), all the while liking certain other characters who aren't/weren't all that original, like Kenshi.

Most of the fans were equally hateful of the majority of the MK3 cast, and Tanya, once. Now they seem to have forgotten how hated most of the MK3 cast and Tanya used to be. The same thing will probably happen to (the rest of) the 3D era characters one day, but they sadly can't get over their hatred of them quickly enough to help make these characters' return in MKX more likely.

Also, even when an unpopular character is "improved" in the eyes of the masses (like Tanya in MKD), they still fail to realize that other "bad" characters can be improved as well, and will still rally against another one returning even though they started loving one of them. They just don't learn from the past.
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12/11/2014 06:20 PM EST
The reason many don't like Li Mei has nothing to do with what color she's wearing, it's because she's fucking bland and boring. It's that simple.
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12/11/2014 07:17 PM EST
Had the 3D characters debuted in the 2D format like in MK3, they'd certainly be less despised.
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12/11/2014 07:27 PM EST
DG1OA Wrote:
I'm not interested in reading all the replies, so if what I'm about to say's already been said, then so be it.


Actually, no one has said a single asinine thing that you said, so I think you're safe for now.

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Most fans struggle to give most of the 3D-era characters because they're close-minded twits.


Is the name calling really necessary? Speak for yourself before you start lashing out at people who dislike the 3D characters. There are quite a lot of people here who actually like them, including characters that get the hate a lot such as Drahmin and Kira.

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They hated some of those characters for standing out, and dismissed others as ripoffs for ridiculous reasons (like Li Mei using sais and wearing purple but being otherwise significantly different from Mileena)


People have their reasons to not like someone. They might be silly, but they're opinions. You don't need to agree with any of them, so what gives you the right to blatantly call them a "twit" because of that?

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all the while liking certain other characters who aren't/weren't all that original, like Kenshi.


This has to be a very hypocrite-like post. You just got done saying that people have ridiculous reasons to not like a 3D character, and judging on this sentence, it seems that you don't like Kenshi. While I don't necessarily find any interest in him, it seems like your reasoning is quite "ridiculous" as Kenshi is original to the series.

We haven't had a blind fighter in up until Deadly Alliance.

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Most of the fans were equally hateful of the majority of the MK3 cast, and Tanya, once. Now they seem to have forgotten how hated most of the MK3 cast and Tanya used to be.


Who are these fans? A lot of users I know actually have favorites from the third game's cast.

DG1OA Wrote:
The same thing will probably happen to (the rest of) the 3D era characters one day, but they sadly can't get over their hatred of them quickly enough to help make these characters' return in MKX more likely.


We haven't even gotten the goddamn game yet, let alone having the entire cast revealed. How can you judge people so quickly base on opinions they have for a cast of characters that they don't like.

Their opinions may be silly but they HAVE reasons to dislike characters. It seems like you're amongst the other fellow here and just cannot respect one's opinions because you don't necessarily agree with what they have to say.

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Also, even when an unpopular character is "improved" in the eyes of the masses (like Tanya in MKD), they still fail to realize that other "bad" characters can be improved as well, and will still rally against another one returning even though they started loving one of them. They just don't learn from the past.


People do know that the creators can easily take a hated character and turn them into something great. Unfortunately some of the characters that they have made, they don't want to touch because of the reactions they got.

I really would like to know who are these so-called "fans" that are blind and have ridiculous reasons to dislike characters.