I do just i just think hasselback n mcnabb are better qbs in the NFC hes 3rd best

LMFAO. ROTHELSSBBERGER OVER PALMER! YOUR A JOKE. Shiit, I could think of 5 more better then him.

Drew Brees
Trent Green
Eli Manning
Micheal Vick
Donavan Mcnabb
Matt Hasselback
Kurt Warner
Chad Pennington
Drew Bledsoe
Vinny Testicle
Steve McNair

Now remake your list

Ok i'll extend my list to top 10

1)Payton Manning
2) Tom Brady
3)Matt Hasselback (hey he has no true #1 reciever and he still gets it done like brady)
4)I hate the eagles but still Mcnabb when healthy is a great qb so mcnabb here
5)Carson palmer
6)Trent Green
7)Jake Delhome
8)Ben Roslishburger all he does is win and efficent but not many stats
9) Eli Manning(but he'll be top 5 by the end of this year)
10) :surprise: Jake Plummer yes hes a top 10 qb if hes no mistake jake like he was for nearly of all season last year

Remake my list? You lost your credibility at Chad Pennington. Also, do any of these guys have 16/18 games? No. 10 out of the 11 you listed are nowhere close to Big Ben in terms of talent (Hasselbeck is the exception). My reason is that pretty much all of these guys play in passing offenses. Vinny Testaverde? He isn't starting. Remake YOUR list.

Maybe i should ref this bout lol jk no fighting here plz lol anyways what bout top 5/10 backs
1)Shawn Alexander
2)LT
3)Tiki Barber
4)Larry Johnson( could move up to 1 if he proves he can produce for an whole season the other 3 have done that for the past few years.)
5)Edgrine James
Clearly top 5 backs
6)Clinton Portis
7)Warrik Dunn
8)Curtis Martin remember he won the rushing title 2 years ago he can still play
9)Rudi Johnson
10)Steven Jackson

OK, Top 5 RBs:

1. LaDanian Tomlinson (because the Chargers will rely on him this year)
2. Shawn Alexander
3. Larry Johnson
4. Rudi Johnson
5. Clinton Portis

6-10:

6. Edgerrin James
7. Tatum Bell
8. Stephen Jackson
9. Kevin Jones
10. Corey Dillon

Ight my top 5 are
1.Ladanian Tomlinson (the reason i think lt is the best and is better than anyone is beacuse, unlike, priest holmes, shaun alexander, Grand-mama, and edge, Lt has never had an amazin O-line, plus he catches better than all of them, and can throw td's when they call on him.)
2.Shaun Alexander
3.Tiki Barber
4.Lj (same with what killerkill said, if he puts up the same numbers this year he's top 3)
5.Edgerin James
6.Clinton Portis
7.Dominick Davis
8.Rudi Johnson
9.Warrick Dunn
10.Caddilac Williams(Will own next season)

I don't mean to critizie u but how do u not have tiki in your top 10. I am going to state my argument. He doesn't score tds but he does everything else and as i said before he has the most yards out of any back (pass n rush combined) since Marshell faulk just a thought y he isn't on ur top ten list. I mean u have Kevin Jones Detroit rb ahead of him he had a good rookie year but he dropped off big time. stephen jackson didn't do enough yet rudi is good but not as good as tiki. Tatum bell not even get the starting job in denver. You can make a small case for portis and James. Dillon had a terrible season last year granted he had injuries. Tiki is no longer the fumble back thats y hes a top back. Just wondering y u hate the giants so much lol? U seem to understimate everything. Srry if i come off mean i do want to know though wats ur reasons I mean it as a question and i won't flame u if i disagree. (i add maybe i love them to much lol but i really do want to know the reasons.)

Tiki is not in my Top 10 because the Giants don't have to put such a heavy burden on him this year. Eli Manning is good enough that he doesn't just turn around and give Tiki the ball anymore. Here are Tiki's stats last year:

1,860 yards, 9 TDs, 5.2 YPC, 54 catches, 530 yards, 2 TDs.

Now, it's safe to say that he won't even approach those numbers this coming year. Let's just discount the receiving numbers for a minute. Tiki has never had numbers this good, so if he turns in another season like this, I'll be a believer. My list is based on pure rushers, and Tiki would actually be #11 if I extended my list.

Ok i understand. Srry if i sounded mean. Though i do disagree with you about tiki being a bad pure rusher i won't argue with u srry man. I m going to respond to what i think wat kind of season he had. I think he'll have 40 catches for about 480 yards because he is balance and can open up things for the other giatns recievers. Though as you said he won't get as many catches because they do have a nice recieving core. the giants are trying to get brandon jacobs touches in the red zone so tiki will have around 11td again. I do believe he can put up 1800 yards again but i think the giants will try to move to a 2 back system as most teams are in the NFL so i see him with 1300-1500 yards.

Never said he was a bad pure rusher. I think he is good, just that the offensive line got him most of his yards. He also averaged about 25 carries a game, a number that he probably will keep going, but asking for another 1,860 yard (or more) season is too much. I think he'll go for 1,200-1,300 yards.

LOL, whats next, Top offencive linemen?





its Walter Jones btw, then John Ogden but we not on this yet so, it

y not top olineman is batman lol jk but seriously the 2 onlinman from KC are the best i forgot their names though

why don't you invite some of the old crew who moved over to sponges board? so there will be more people

na, Jonathan Ogden and Orlando Pace are the best in the L, and then hutchinson.

i agree ogen is a top ol but pace is to old now hes not as good as he use to be

Most of them are banned here, and I'll be flamed to death by DMitch (among others) if I go over there, which isn't something I'm in the mood for. It's a good idea though, maybe if you want to try, feel free. I'm open to it.

EDIT: Actually travelingwilbury, I have a better idea. Make a thread for it on Sponge's site, and I'll quote their picks here along with ours, and you do the same with ours on their site, that way everyone is on the same page.

Top 10 WRs:

1. Steve Smith
2. Chad Johnson
3. Randy Moss
4. Terrell Owens
5. Marvin Harrison
6. Larry Fitzgerald (yes, I said it)
7. Laveranues Cloes
8. Hines Ward
9. Plaxico Burress
10. Joey Galloway

Top 15 QB's:
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Jake Delhomme
4. Carson Palmer
5. Ben Roethlisberger
6. Matt Hasselbeck
7. Drew Brees
8. Daunte Culpepper
9. Trent Green
10. Donovan McNabb
11. Brett Favre
12. Brad Johnson
13. Marc Bulger
14. Byron Leftwich
15. Jake Plummer

Top 15 RB's
1. LaDainian Tomlinson
2. Larry Johnson
3. Shaun Alexander
4. Clinton Portis
5. Edgerin James
6. Tiki Barber
7. Rudi Johnson
8. Warrick Dunn
9. Willis McGahee
10. Duece McAlister
11. Corey Dillon
12. LaMont Jordan
13. Carnell Williams
14. Jamal Lewis
15. Kevin Jones Top 15 WR's: 1. Randy Moss 2. Chad Johnson 3. Terrell Owens 4. Steve Smith 5. Torry Holt 6. Marvin Harrison 7. Larry Fitzgerald 8. Santana Moss 9. Chris Chambers 10. Javon Walker 11. Donald Driver 12. Anquan Boldin 13. Mushin Muhammad 14. Derrick Mason 15. Plaxico Burress

Nice lists SST, care to play the game?

LOL, yo wildin. Only good thing I see is that KJ is on a list. Rothlessberger is so overrated its not even funny. Did anyone happen to watch the superbowl? He had the worst performance ever by a QB in the superbowl.

Top WRs
1) Steve Smith
2) Chad Johnson
3) Torry Holt how do ppl forget about this guy
4) Randy Moss
5) Marvin Harrision
6) Terrel Owens
7) Larry Fitzgerald
8) Aqtwain Boldin
9) Plexto Burress
10) Hines Ward
11) Satana Moss
12) Chris Chambers
13) Joey Galloway
14) Mushin Muhammed
15) Donald Driver

take driver off and put moulds up in there cause he is so underrated.

anyway, the guys on sponges board are doing there own fantasy league. i say we hop on over there so there will be more teas playing

I see. Well it does suck that everyone got banned and Beat the Blade is no more, I might be interested in joining.

i have no idea wat u are talking about