I wish MORE women came onto me. Makes my life easier.

Excellent input, Colonel Sanders. I for one can't stand when i go to the talkies and see women in pants. can you believe that??? Pants on a girl. Ha!

Really tho, I'm totally fine with a chick making the first move. However from my past experiences of people making the first move on me its almost never who i want it to be. I think that kinda goes for both genders though. And like (Erik) mentioned earlier, I think the idea of a girl approaching me first is something I like mainly because it eliminates the fear of rejection and all doubt that she's somewhat in to me. In other words, being approached first is for sure the easy road, but its also risky in that you never know who's gonna do it. There's also always the chance you guys just don't click at all.

I'm going to assume something this ridiculous is meant to be taken tongue-in-cheek.

In reply to Spaceman
Waiting for a girl to make the first move is easy? I've been waiting for quite some time for gals of my liking to do it. Only two did. While they were pretty, I'm afraid neither were smart enough. Not necessarily idiots, but still not smart enough.

And once again, I ask: Why isn't it lazy on a gal's part to wait for a man to talk to her? I know the answer, but it seems not many people are willing to admit it's because they blindly believe that the genders are different species.

In reply to Krayzie_Killin_Joker
In my case, I'd be lucky just to have a beautiful, intelligent female friend. Which brings me to my next point.

Even when it merely comes to friendships with the opposite sex, girls still seldom make the first move. I could put up with it better if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of unattrractive and unintelligent pricks are approaching me instead. It happened just yesterday, as a matter of fact. An ugly asshole who sat besides me in the bus, and he talked to me even though I clearly wasn't interested (or at least it should have been obvious that I wasn't) and didn't reply to him. I barely even looked at him as he was addressing me. It's happened plenty of times.

Other guys are more confortable talking to me than a lot of girls are. Since I'm also a guy and all, and since many people do believe the genders to be different species, it means that many of these repulsive twats see me as one of their own. Yuck.

I'm not really into male bonding, unless the other guys are gorgeous and intelligent. It's not because I'm straight that other men shouldn't be presentable. But in my experience, sexy men are even more rare than beautiful women.

So even if I wanted to make the first move, well, gals of my liking would have to be a little less hard to find in the first place. But I still insist on them asking me out.

Everytime you use the word " gal" you lengthen the time before you lose your virginity. This has been proven. With science.
Also... you claim to be straight but only want "attractive and sexy male friends"? That's not helping your case, guy.

Either you have really high standards, or a superiority complex. Not everyone can be beautiful or a genius. Nobody is perfect, so there is no need to insult them.

I had girl make first move before. She was bit crazy and creepy, I did turn her down but she wasn't taking no for answer. She spent whole night asking me for kiss or dance then tryed to give me lapdance, I had to push her off because she was trying force herself on me. If I didn't keep eye on my drinks that night then there was good chance I was going get raped.

Even tho that happened to me, I still think they should atlease try to make first move but men need do it as well.

I'm going to answer Kunglaodoesntsuck's interpretation of you of having extremely high standards. But I must say, you're not the kind of person that seems to be a flatting type to fall for with the kind of attitude you're giving off about women and men. You say that girls are too lazy to ask you out, unfortunately, I fail to see how laziness has anything to do with girls not talking to you... All because of your perspective of the world. It's fine to judge people, but to literally call them "twats," "unattractive, unintelligent pricks," that to me could be a reason not to dig you. And believe me, as of lately, you're not such a nice kind of guy I would like to have as a friend if I were to meet you in real life.

In order for you to have your attention focused on who's talking to you will be judged by their looks? If they're ugly due to your standards, they're immediately known as a "twat?" I don't quite understand the logic behind that, everyone has their flaws and qwerks. Don't be so judgmental, maybe girls might actually talk to you then.

Thank you for not answering my question at all...... -_______-

Actually I was dead serious. I just prefer a more traditional way of life. I get flak for it, but I am happy with my relationship as is my girlfriend. That is what matters.

I think things just feel more natural in a relationship with a dominant male and a more submissive female.

Right a dominant male who wears his girlfriend's dresses. You're either totally full of shit or just in some sort of denial. You and the OP should hang out together.

ZeroSymbolic7188 is an idiot. As is MKojo6 for thinking he'd (ZeroSymbolic that is) even make a good friend for me. Talk about misunderstanding me.

I truly am wasting my time on these forums. Almost everyone completely misinterpret what I say and look for the easiest and most stereotypical explainations regarding my personality. Oh well, thinking isn't most people's forte around here. Heh.

Cool story bro. Nice knowing you.

Well, when you say things such as, "I'm not going to waste my time listening to an ugly, unintelligent twat," what are we supposed to think of you? That you're a cuddly teddy bear just trying to find some love? To me, that just reads, "I'm a fucking asshole, leave me alone you ugly piece of crap!"

And quit with the fucking insults dude, just because one doesn't see eye to eye to you, doesn't mean people are subjected to be ridiculed. When you come off as a really rude person, there's no sympathy coming from me that you can't get a girl to like you. You're constantly thinking that women are lazy pieces of shit without realizing that there could be other reasons why they don't ask first. When you constantly ignore that reason and then give off something that makes you look more of an idiot, how are we supposed to answer your damn question?

If this site upsets you because I guess we don't have them great IQs like you do, then leave. We have two cents of our own, and when you come off as a rude person, what are we supposed to do? Just let it be okay, or actually tell you that maybe if you had a personality change, things would be a lot easier for you with the issues you're dealing with in this thread.

Not to mention, you had a girl all this time telling you why her gender probably doesn't ask first and gave a good reason why they don't. I think it's preposterous that you ignored it since you've been trying to get some questions answered throughout this thread.

This thread makes me realize that I'm already above the age of an average American boy here. That was very immature, both of you. If you're so darn smart, you should realize that you can't determine anyone's intelligence by a single meeting or through the Web solely. Remember who is the one asking questions – modesty! I will also be in charge of things in my family when that time comes, by the way. But that's just me. It's time to learn respecting others and to gain some discipline before anything. Peace out.

Yeah I am a fetishist, so what. The clothes don't make the man, and those are MY clothes.

I dress up from time to time, but I also am the head of my household, and the dominant component of the relationship. I work my ass off to provide my girlfriend with the things that she needs, and she in turn keeps things clean, and keeps me fed. We get what we need from each other, and we are happy. So what is immature about that?

If someone has to spell it out for you it's the fact that you, seemingly without knowledge of your implications, can say something as judgmental as ,"I would have nothing to do with a woman that makes the first move. It speaks poorly of her character". Then you stated, "I hate the feminist movement, and all that crap", again clearly without knowing the breadth and depth of the feminist movement. Then toss around words like "dominant" and "submissive" when what you're really trying to say is that you're the bread winner in your relationship while your girlfriend is content as a stay-at-home (All of which is fine, by the way).

So speaking out of ignorance about subjects you apparently don't know much about, through the lense of narrow-minded judgement, is pretty much the opposite of a mature response.

What I've learned is that there's only 2 reasons why women make the first move, either they are piss drunk, or they have issues. I've yet to have what I'd call a sober "normal" woman make the first move.

See the post located directly below this. Proper women do not make the first move. Im not the only one to observe this.

ZeroSymbolic7188 what if I said proper men don't wear dresses? Pretty fucking judgmental right?

Not to side with anyone.... But I agree with Mojo.... I've never seen a proper man wear a dress.... That's not normal, despite "fetishes"

I would ask a girl, but I only like older women soooooo it would be kinda odd.

Thanks. I'm really just trying to point how judgmental logic works when the shoe is on the other foot. I could care less if he wears dresses.


Also, I've been approached and gotten involved with women/girls who made the first move and it worked out fine. Does that prove anything? No. Neither does the other dude's post that was pure anecdote.

The OP is what you could call a ''Forever Alone''.