they are gonna do something with ganondorf because he was a clone and as you all know they are gonna take out or change them(most likely take them out)they are gonna either take falcon out and keep ganondorf the way he was,Or keep falcon and change the way ganon plays(or change them both)


(by the way subman799 for some reason i cant IM anyone)

Ganondorf was... a CLONE?

Who was he a clone of?

You should probably tell a mod or something

Umm, Captain Falcon. You didn't know?

Really?

THEN DEATH TO GANONDORF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ganondorf better be in SSBB, he just needs to use his own moveset.

He needs to use his sword as his primary attack tool, and his final smash could be turn into Ganon.

He should also look like he does in LOZ:TP.

Sonic !!!
Zelda
Pikachu
Peach
Mario
... I'll pick random as I always do. I know all the characters by heart in Melee and I intend to do the same for Brawl



No way, Super Sonic is just insane. I LOVE this Final Smash. It's awesome.

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Here are my predictions for the characters we know about so far;


Damage : On average, how is his damage given rating.
Power : On average, how far can he send his opponent.
Speed : Combines running speed and attack speed.
Jump : How well does he fare in aerial fights.
Traction : The less he slips on the floor, the more he has traction.
Recovery : Comeback skills and how fast does he recover from hits.
Range : Counting projectiles and attack moves, does he have decent range.
Difficulty : How steep is his learning curve.
Weight : From featherweight to heavyweight.
Type : Here are the possible types;

•All Around : Has both defensive and offensive moves. Can perform in the air too.
•Defensive : Has range and a lot of projectiles. Usually quite heavy.
•Tricky : Can perform in every situations but needs a lot of intuition and practice.
•Offensive : Can rank up damage easily and quickly. Has high power and speed.
•Counter: Punisher type. Can kill fast and efficiently, but needs to lure foe before.
•Powerhouse : Has poor manoeuvrability but high power. Best against many foes.
•Strategic : Can suit any situation but needs to change play style depending on foe.


MARIO
Damage : ****
Power : ****
Speed : ****
Jump : ***
Traction : ***
Recovery : ****
Range : **
Difficulty : *
Weight : ***
Type : All Around

LINK
Damage : ****
Power : ****
Speed : ***
Jump : **
Traction : *****
Recovery : ***
Range : ****
Difficulty : *
Weight : ****
Type : Defensive

KIRBY
Damage : ***
Power : **
Speed : **
Jump : *****
Traction : ***
Recovery : ***
Range : ***
Difficulty : ****
Weight : *
Type : Tricky

PIKACHU
Damage : ***
Power : *****
Speed : ****
Jump : *****
Traction : ****
Recovery : *****
Range : ****
Difficulty : *
Weight : ***
Type : Offensive

FOX
Damage : ****
Power : ****
Speed : *****
Jump : ***
Traction : *****
Recovery : ****
Range : **
Difficulty : ***
Weight : ****
Type : Offensive

SAMUS
Damage : *****
Power : ***
Speed : **
Jump : ***
Traction : ***
Recovery : ***
Range : *****
Difficulty : **
Weight : ****
Type : Defensive

ZELDA
Damage : *****
Power : *****
Speed : *
Jump : *
Traction : ***
Recovery : ****
Range : ***
Difficulty : *****
Weight : **
Type : Counter

BOWSER
Damage : *****
Power : *****
Speed : *
Jump : ***
Traction : **
Recovery : **
Range : **
Difficulty : *****
Weight : *****
Type : Powerhouse


DONKEY KONG
Damage : *****
Power : ****
Speed : ***
Jump : ****
Traction : **
Recovery : **
Range : **
Difficulty : ****
Weight : *****
Type : Powerhouse

YOSHI
Damage : ****
Power : *****
Speed : ****
Jump : ***
Traction : ****
Recovery : ***
Range : ****
Difficulty : **
Weight : ****
Type : All Around

PEACH
Damage : *****
Power : ***
Speed : ***
Jump : *****
Traction : *****
Recovery : *****
Range : ***
Difficulty : **
Weight : **
Type : Strategic

ICE CLIMBERS
Damage : ****
Power : *****
Speed : ***
Jump : *
Traction : *****
Recovery : ****
Range : ***
Difficulty : ***
Weight : **
Type : Counter

PIT
Damage : ***
Power : ***
Speed : *****
Jump : *****
Traction : ****
Recovery : *****
Range : ***
Difficulty : *
Weight : ***
Type : Offensive

WARIO
Damage : ****
Power : *****
Speed : **
Jump : *
Traction : **
Recovery : **
Range : *
Difficulty : ****
Weight : *****
Type : Tricky

ZERO SAMUS
Damage : ****
Power : **
Speed : ****
Jump : *****
Traction : ****
Recovery : ****
Range : ****
Difficulty : *
Weight : **
Type : Offensive

IKE
Damage : *****
Power : ****
Speed : ***
Jump : **
Traction : **
Recovery : **
Range : ****
Difficulty : **
Weight : ***
Type : Counter

SQUIRTLE
Damage : ***
Power : **
Speed : ****
Jump : ***
Traction : **
Recovery : *****
Range : ****
Difficulty : ***
Weight : ***
Type : Offensive

IVYSAUR
Damage : *****
Power : ***
Speed : **
Jump : *
Traction : ***
Recovery : **
Range : ****
Difficulty : *****
Weight : ****
Type : Tricky

CHARIZARD
Damage : *****
Power : *****
Speed : ***
Jump : *****
Traction : **
Recovery : ****
Range : ****
Difficulty : **
Weight : *****
Type : Defensive

DIDDY KONG
Damage : ***
Power : **
Speed : ****
Jump : *****
Traction : ***
Recovery : ****
Range : ****
Difficulty : ***
Weight : ***
Type : Offensive

METAKNIGHT
Damage : ****
Power : **
Speed : ****
Jump : *****
Traction : ***
Recovery : *****
Range : ***
Difficulty : ***
Weight : ***
Type : Offensive

SNAKE
Damage : ****
Power : *****
Speed : **
Jump : **
Traction : *****
Recovery : **
Range : *****
Difficulty : ****
Weight : ****
Type : Defensive

LUCAS
Damage : *****
Power : ****
Speed : ***
Jump : ***
Traction : **
Recovery : ****
Range : *****
Difficulty : ****
Weight : ***
Type : Strategic

SONIC
Damage : ****
Power : ****
Speed : *****
Jump : *****
Traction : **
Recovery : *****
Range : ***
Difficulty : ***
Weight : ****
Type : Offensive

well my roster list is:
1.Sonic the Hedgehog
2.Ike
3.Pit
4.Snake
5.Link

characters im hoping will return:
1.Mewtwo
2.Roy(or Marth but mostly Roy)
3.Ganondorf
4.Falco
5.Ness(a little)

characters i want in the game:
1.Cloud
2.Sora
3.Megaman
4.Krystal
5.Lucario
...and Goku(it could happen) 6.Shadow the Hedgehog(or as alt for Sonic) 7.knuckles 8.Broly 9.Trunks 10.Sephiroth 11.Riku 12.Starwolf 13.Vectorman 14.Bomberman 15.Waluigi

Characters i hope will return:
1.Roy
2.Capt.Falcon
3.Mewtwo
4.Mr. G & W
5.Sheik(i don't care if she's with Zelda, or her own character)
6.Falco
7.Jigglypuff
8.Ganondorf

Characters i want in SSBB:
1.Megaman
2.Bomberman
3.Cloud
4.Sephiroth
5.Sora
6.Riku
7.Lucario
8.Knuckles
9.King Dededee
10.Master Cheif
11.Trunks

You guys will never understand...that Yoshi is the greatest thing Super Smash Bros. ahs ever played ever ever.

He's so awesome. He's powerful, one of the fastest characters in terms of speed, the highest second jump, a long range grab attack, and his Butt Slam! You cannot escape his assbyss (get it, abyss, ass, assbyss.) Basically Yoshi kicks ass

OF course, I also will kill ya guys online with Fox. And who can forget about Pikachu? Death awaits all who oppose the mighty yellow furball.

Basically watch yourself, I might be behind you, or in front of you! You never know just when I'll STRIKE!! .....in Smash Bros.......

It's probably gonna be :

1. Her emotions from the Super Princess Peach game.
2. A transformation into the Shadow Queen from Paper Mario.
3. A huge-ass turnip lol!
4. Something related to her healing powers from Mario RPG
5. Her hearts from Mario Kart.

Those hearts would be a good idea. They can protect her for an amount of time. But then again, it would be like getting a star. lol

Saw it. She basically begins to sing, and then frames of Peach appear on the sides of the screen. Everyone all of a sudden fall asleep, and a ton of food falls on the ground. Guess what, they're peaches. So basically, everyone's asleep for a while, and you get health back. Sounds pretty cool imo

Actually those stars also stole specials from other people. This would make her interesting...

I heard that her final smash has something to do with her being giant on both sides of the screen. I think I saw it on ign, I'm probaly wrong though

Hey, here's some hands-on that discusses new info. Ike's final smash has finally been revealed, along with ZSS!

Click

the roster ill use the most[in order]

1.link
2. sonic
3.mario
4.wario
5.ike
6. pit

Wow, Subman799, that video you showed revealed a lot of new stuff!

Like new pokemon, assist trophies(metriod!), final smashes(ZSS and Ike's are cool), and new items.

I also like how the screw ball sticks to you know, so you can hold other weapons.

im kinda dissapointed with Ikes FS and ZSS's FS...and Metaknight's too.

Are you serious Casselman?It would only be one character lol..

My Most Likely Top 5:
1) Link
2) Sonic
3) Pikachu
4) Fox
5) Ike

Characters I Want to Return:
1) Luigi (more altered moves)
2) Captain Falcon
3) Gannondorf (different moveset)
4) Falco
5) Ness (altered moveset if Lucas is identical)
6) Jigglypuff
7) Mewtwo
8) Marth
9) Roy (different moveset)
10) Sheik (seperate from Zelda)

Characters I Want In:
1) Waluigi
2) Baby Bowser
3) Starwolf
4) Ridley
5) King Dedede
6) Knuckles
7) Tails
8) Vectorman
9) Crash Bandicoot
10) Spyro

meh

Characters I want in:

1. Lucario
2. King Dedede
3. Krystal
4. Pac-Man
5. Ridley
6. Bowser Jr.
7. Black Knight (Fire Emlbem)

Characters i'll master:

1. Ike
2. Lucario (if he's in)
3. Sonic
4. Meta Knight

Characters already mastered:

1. Yoshi
2. Fox
3. Pikahcu
4. Mario
5. Link

Nice find. I'm pretty sure the Pokemon he's talking about are Kyogre, Latias and Latios, Torchic, and Piplup.

As for the final smashes, ZSS's is fine. It shouldn't be that powerful anyway. I think I'll wait to judge MetaKnight's, but Ike's sounds pretty generic. Oh well.

Wailord, Latios, Latias, Piplup, Torchic.