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06/19/2004 02:19 AM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
Once again I feel I have been gone for ages after getting one disgusting surprise in the Boot and Immune game. So many things in just one week of absence!!! That?s one of the reasons I stopped playing the game, people take it too seriously! As if it was a competition to prove ?who? is better then ?who?.

No wonder other favorites such as Sindel, Mileena and Sheeva never made it to the finals. They were all booted in the most early rounds! I basically got bored after watching them go all the time.

I think I have one idea for a solution to the problem. I doubt everyone will like the whole game to restart from zero, so I thought (to my dislike), why not make a rematch of all the final rounds?

For example, first game it was Sonya VS Shao Kahn (I think it was Kahn) then why not make it happen again with the 24 hour rule? So people can vote again.

And in the case of Jade, who has been in the finals twice in the game, the following could happen:

Let?s say she wins the first game were she ended in the finals (Vs Nightwolf?). Ok, she is in the champions list, and Nightwolf looses in a fair fight.

Then the next game were Jade also ended as a finalist could be like this: The character who got booted in the third place, could take Jade?s spot and face the other one who ended in the finals. Do you get my point?

I much rather have the results the way they are since there are still 5 games left and I would be very disappointed if Sonya actually lost to Kahn when it was all excitement in the first place when she won.

I think this should be discussed with the all the participant members, and it should also be a voting session of at least 48 hours were everyone should give weather they like option:

A) Leave the results the way they are and continue the game with more supervision.

or

B) Restart all the final rounds with the two finalists following the 24 hour rule and my suggestion in such example as in Jade?s occasion were she was finalist twice.

I say that in one game of 24 hours fans can vote for all the finalists at once, this will make it fasrter then just one at the time. With the exception of the games were there was one character being finalist twice such as Jade and Kitana.

This should be played in a separate occasion to see how they end and if the character booted in third place of one of the games can actually take the spot he disserves because of the one who should had been immuned long ago.

I also noticed that the final round of game 11 was played by the supervision of ?Crow-, so its not necessary to restart this game.


I dont think the final rounds should be re-done. If the whole round was being manipulated by the damn clones, the two last remaining characters were probably not supposed to be there in the first place. I would prefer to restart the whole thing than have to re-do the final matches of each round.
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queve
06/19/2004 02:28 AM (UTC)
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Wanderer Wrote:
If you were to redo finals, then you should go ahead and redo the whole match. That would seem more logical than just the final match, but I think the idea to leave them as they are is the primary option at this point.

Also, Crow, just lower the count to 100 or 150 visits. That's a pretty fair jurisdiction, and honest users can still vote.


Well, I agree with you. I much rather let the game stay the way it is with the champions, but if you think about it, its not fair for the others who played the game and never cheated, and they had their champions to immune but couldn’t because of the clone abuse.

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It could also be possible to do 1 extra match before game 12 continues, with all the sub-champions that didn’t win in none of the games such as Shao Kahn, Jade, Kitana, and the others who lost to a current champion. In this match fans will vote as a normal “Boot and Immune” game but one winner should be added to the champions list, so instead of 16, we will now have 17.

It seems fair.
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06/19/2004 02:30 AM (UTC)
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furious furious .. holds tougue... grr.. the game should start from the start all the games were phony and if u go back to game 1 sonya should have never.won!! she doesnt belong in the finals..yet.. er i should say doesnt deserve to be there...all games should be redone.. WITH CROWS IDEA!! to prevent jerks from cloning and changing there ip to do so!!!! yes QUEVE it is just a game!!!

queve Wrote:
Once again I feel I have been gone for ages after getting one disgusting surprise in the Boot and Immune game. So many things in just one week of absence!!! That’s one of the reasons I stopped playing the game, people take it too seriously! As if it was a competition to prove “who” is better then “who”.

No wonder other favorites such as Sindel, Mileena and Sheeva never made it to the finals. They were all booted in the most early rounds! I basically got bored after watching them go all the time.

I think I have one idea for a solution to the problem. I doubt everyone will like the whole game to restart from zero, so I thought (to my dislike), why not make a rematch of all the final rounds?

For example, first game it was Sonya VS Shao Kahn (I think it was Kahn) then why not make it happen again with the 24 hour rule? So people can vote again.

And in the case of Jade, who has been in the finals twice in the game, the following could happen:

Let’s say she wins the first game were she ended in the finals (Vs Nightwolf?). Ok, she is in the champions list, and Nightwolf looses in a fair fight.

Then the next game were Jade also ended as a finalist could be like this: The character who got booted in the third place, could take Jade’s spot and face the other one who ended in the finals. Do you get my point?

I much rather have the results the way they are since there are still 5 games left and I would be very disappointed if Sonya actually lost to Kahn when it was all excitement in the first place when she won.

I think this should be discussed with the all the participant members, and it should also be a voting session of at least 48 hours were everyone should give weather they like option:

A) Leave the results the way they are and continue the game with more supervision.

or

B) Restart all the final rounds with the two finalists following the 24 hour rule and my suggestion in such example as in Jade’s occasion were she was finalist twice.

I say that in one game of 24 hours fans can vote for all the finalists at once, this will make it fasrter then just one at the time. With the exception of the games were there was one character being finalist twice such as Jade and Kitana.

This should be played in a separate occasion to see how they end and if the character booted in third place of one of the games can actually take the spot he disserves because of the one who should had been immuned long ago.

I also noticed that the final round of game 11 was played by the supervision of –Crow-, so its not necessary to restart this game.

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06/19/2004 02:38 AM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
Once again I feel I have been gone for ages after getting one disgusting surprise in the Boot and Immune game. So many things in just one week of absence!!! That’s one of the reasons I stopped playing the game, people take it too seriously! As if it was a competition to prove “who” is better then “who”.

No wonder other favorites such as Sindel, Mileena and Sheeva never made it to the finals. They were all booted in the most early rounds! I basically got bored after watching them go all the time.

I think I have one idea for a solution to the problem. I doubt everyone will like the whole game to restart from zero, so I thought (to my dislike), why not make a rematch of all the final rounds?

For example, first game it was Sonya VS Shao Kahn (I think it was Kahn) then why not make it happen again with the 24 hour rule? So people can vote again.

And in the case of Jade, who has been in the finals twice in the game, the following could happen:

Let’s say she wins the first game were she ended in the finals (Vs Nightwolf?). Ok, she is in the champions list, and Nightwolf looses in a fair fight.

Then the next game were Jade also ended as a finalist could be like this: The character who got booted in the third place, could take Jade’s spot and face the other one who ended in the finals. Do you get my point?

I much rather have the results the way they are since there are still 5 games left and I would be very disappointed if Sonya actually lost to Kahn when it was all excitement in the first place when she won.

I think this should be discussed with the all the participant members, and it should also be a voting session of at least 48 hours were everyone should give weather they like option:

A) Leave the results the way they are and continue the game with more supervision.

or

B) Restart all the final rounds with the two finalists following the 24 hour rule and my suggestion in such example as in Jade’s occasion were she was finalist twice.

I say that in one game of 24 hours fans can vote for all the finalists at once, this will make it fasrter then just one at the time. With the exception of the games were there was one character being finalist twice such as Jade and Kitana.

This should be played in a separate occasion to see how they end and if the character booted in third place of one of the games can actually take the spot he disserves because of the one who should had been immuned long ago.

I also noticed that the final round of game 11 was played by the supervision of –Crow-, so its not necessary to restart this game.


Sheesh...........*SIGH*
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06/19/2004 02:39 AM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
.. holds tougue... grr.. the game should start from the start all the games were phony and if u go back to game 1 sonya should have never.won!! she doesnt belong in the finals..yet.. er i should say doesnt deserve to be there...all games should be redone.. WITH CROWS IDEA!! to prevent jerks from cloning and changing there ip to do so!!!! yes QUEVE it is just a game!!!

queve Wrote:
Once again I feel I have been gone for ages after getting one disgusting surprise in the Boot and Immune game. So many things in just one week of absence!!! That’s one of the reasons I stopped playing the game, people take it too seriously! As if it was a competition to prove “who” is better then “who”.

No wonder other favorites such as Sindel, Mileena and Sheeva never made it to the finals. They were all booted in the most early rounds! I basically got bored after watching them go all the time.

I think I have one idea for a solution to the problem. I doubt everyone will like the whole game to restart from zero, so I thought (to my dislike), why not make a rematch of all the final rounds?

For example, first game it was Sonya VS Shao Kahn (I think it was Kahn) then why not make it happen again with the 24 hour rule? So people can vote again.

And in the case of Jade, who has been in the finals twice in the game, the following could happen:

Let’s say she wins the first game were she ended in the finals (Vs Nightwolf?). Ok, she is in the champions list, and Nightwolf looses in a fair fight.

Then the next game were Jade also ended as a finalist could be like this: The character who got booted in the third place, could take Jade’s spot and face the other one who ended in the finals. Do you get my point?

I much rather have the results the way they are since there are still 5 games left and I would be very disappointed if Sonya actually lost to Kahn when it was all excitement in the first place when she won.

I think this should be discussed with the all the participant members, and it should also be a voting session of at least 48 hours were everyone should give weather they like option:

A) Leave the results the way they are and continue the game with more supervision.

or

B) Restart all the final rounds with the two finalists following the 24 hour rule and my suggestion in such example as in Jade’s occasion were she was finalist twice.

I say that in one game of 24 hours fans can vote for all the finalists at once, this will make it fasrter then just one at the time. With the exception of the games were there was one character being finalist twice such as Jade and Kitana.

This should be played in a separate occasion to see how they end and if the character booted in third place of one of the games can actually take the spot he disserves because of the one who should had been immuned long ago.

I also noticed that the final round of game 11 was played by the supervision of –Crow-, so its not necessary to restart this game.


I just gave a suggestion that I thought would help, there is no need to talk/scream at me like that!
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06/19/2004 02:44 AM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
I just gave a suggestion that I thought would help, there is no need to talk/scream at me like that!


*screams at you for no apparent reason*
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06/19/2004 02:48 AM (UTC)
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funny wanderer!!! tongue
Wanderer Wrote:
queve Wrote:
I just gave a suggestion that I thought would help, there is no need to talk/scream at me like that!

*screams at you for no apparent reason*

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~Crow~
06/19/2004 03:07 AM (UTC)
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I lowered the visit count rule to 100. Sorry to all others that are not at this level, but I must draw the line at some point.
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06/19/2004 03:14 AM (UTC)
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naw crow thats a great idea....thanks for all the help!!! now we can play fair.... u know it was all those clones that made me flame alot.
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06/19/2004 03:35 AM (UTC)
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First off I don’t mind if the game restarts from scratch but it seems a little unfair to everyone who played fair and got their characters to win. If it needs to be sorted then it should just be a 24 hour vote to either start again or continue on without getting too complicated.

Secondly when will the main update people be chosen/ announced? I know someone nominated a group of people but there hasn’t been any further mention of it.

Finally cheers to ~Crow~ & Tgrant for baby sitting us even though banning the whole game would have been the easy thing to do.
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RasAlGhul
06/19/2004 04:00 AM (UTC)
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ok 100 is fair I think

btw you could add Michelle The Belle and Daemos to the list of safe players
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MetadragonX
06/19/2004 05:02 AM (UTC)
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As much as I hate the idea that the game was rigged, I do not think it should be restarted. We are so close to the finals. *sigh* But the fair thing to do is to completely start from the begining. Damn. All this cheating over a game. How pathetic.
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Oafatron83
06/19/2004 05:09 AM (UTC)
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I know what you mean I've been watching this game since N# 5 though I haven't hit 100 yet I'm close I think someone mentioned it but there should be a vote between all the people who fit the requirements to either A. Restart Whole Boot/Immune or B. Continue Onward
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06/19/2004 05:35 AM (UTC)
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Hmm.. looks like controversy here also.. at least ours is fixed.
Well, the game looks rigged, fix it.
It sounds easy, but it's not, so let's make it easy and restart the whole thing, since every version has its flaws and mistakes you guys learned from this.
So, maybe restart everything.

oh, and ~Crow~, you mind adding me on to the list of regular voters. thanks.
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06/19/2004 08:40 AM (UTC)
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crow dont forget about spike81 and rsk1980.. they have been regular voters since game 1...
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06/19/2004 10:35 AM (UTC)
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Even though the matter is far from fully solved, I guess we can continue from where we left off. I don't really want to start the full thing again. We may as well save that for MKDs release. Then Ashrah and the other characters can be added.
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06/19/2004 10:54 AM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:
Even though the matter is far from fully solved, I guess we can continue from where we left off. I don't really want to start the full thing again. We may as well save that for MKDs release. Then Ashrah and the other characters can be added.

Yeah save them until MKD's release. They'll freshen up the game.
I say we continue, we are over half way to the finals.
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06/19/2004 11:10 AM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:
Even though the matter is far from fully solved, I guess we can continue from where we left off. I don't really want to start the full thing again. We may as well save that for MKDs release. Then Ashrah and the other characters can be added.


So then we continue with the current champions...have the tournment...and then start a new game when MKD comes out with added characters? Sounds cool to me....I don't really want to start over either.
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06/19/2004 11:20 AM (UTC)
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TomTaz Wrote:

tgrant Wrote:
Even though the matter is far from fully solved, I guess we can continue from where we left off. I don't really want to start the full thing again. We may as well save that for MKDs release. Then Ashrah and the other characters can be added.

So then we continue with the current champions...have the tournment...and then start a new game when MKD comes out with added characters? Sounds cool to me....I don't really want to start over either.


That's the plan. And when Crow is ready, we can begin.
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06/19/2004 11:32 AM (UTC)
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soooo... yingtwinyang and jokerjoker we're clones... that's it im not answering no body if they ask me to vote immune or boot (unless i actually know that person a.k.a. are on my buddy list)
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RasAlGhul
06/19/2004 03:16 PM (UTC)
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yeah let's continue and when MKD hit the store, we will start an all new game with the new characters

TomTaz Wrote:

So then we continue with the current champions...have the tournment...and then start a new game when MKD comes out with added characters? Sounds cool to me....I don't really want to start over either.


Sounds fine, im up for that
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06/19/2004 03:32 PM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
crow dont forget about spike81 and rsk1980.. they have been regular voters since game 1...


Thanks for mentioning danadbab.

I say just revote the current finals or keep the current champions and then go on with the next round with supervision ofcourse. It's a good idea to start a whole new game when MKD is released with all the new characters.
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06/19/2004 03:42 PM (UTC)
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Guys, I think we should change a few of the rules since it will be really hard to get 15 votes when there are not that many of us. We could add it back later when we have more members. And maybe the final round should end when all the members voted. Cuz everybody could have voted and we'll still be waiting for the 24hrs to end.
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06/19/2004 03:48 PM (UTC)
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DMitch Wrote:
Guys, I think we should change a few of the rules since it will be really hard to get 15 votes when there are not that many of us. We could add it back later when we have more members. And maybe the final round should end when all the members voted. Cuz everybody could have voted and we'll still be waiting for the 24hrs to end.


Actually i like the 24 hours rule for the finals. Because not all members (like myself) are online every day so it would spoil the fun for others if we had to wait for some people.
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