Sorry if I slept on this one,awesome sauce as usual Razor! Gotta love your take on Cyrax's rookie status in Lin Kuei. i especially love that you decided to give Cyrax his codename later when he is cyborg,because,as you said,his name sounds weird for a human being.

Design-wise, it is pretty much the same to MK9(no shit!),which is a good thing for me,because I really really like it. The mask looks good,but I gotta see your future designs for cyborgs to compare them to human versions.

Gotta ask you though,in your version,have Cyrax and Sektor interacted a lot between each other prior automation? Assuming the difference between their ranks,I would say NO,right?

Another question: are you gonna expand on all Lin Kuei's origins? We pretty much know everything about Sektor being Grandmaster's son and being proud to be Lin Kuei and serve it. What about Cyrax,Smoke and Sub-Zero brothers?(where they from,how they got to the clan,etc.)

It's possible in the Razorverse that Sektor is the guy who was assigned to train Cyrax when he joined the Lin Kuei, which would explain why they both just happen to rely on weapons and tech even before becoming robots, i.e. Cyrax got the buzzsaw from Sektor's influence.
I think the Sub-Zero brothers' origins are as fleshed out as they possibly can be already in Mythologies and Deception. I mean the only thing we never found out is whatever happened to their mom and sister (Vogel once confirmed she's not Frost, and I prefer it that way as well), and quite frankly, I don't think that's important. We'll just have to assume they went on with their lives and the sister never got powers or became anything special (or they might be dead. Mythologies says they "were never heard from again" or something like that), because I have no plans to use her, there's enough ice characters already.

And I'm probably gonna stick with the MK9 origins for Smoke because I believe the fact that he's really an Enenra, a type of demon, can lend a cool twist/explanation to why Noob Saibot exposing him to the Netherealm caused him to transform into his nanobot cyber-demon form in Deception.

As for Cyrax, MK9 didn't explain much about him except establishing that he's a warrior from Botswana, Africa who's proud to serve and believes in his chi even though he fucking has none. I figure I can expand at least a bit on that to say that the reason he's so proud to be in the Lin Kuei is because, since he doesn't have any powers and the Lin Kuei typically only recruits people who do, he must have sought THEM out rather than being recruited, like he heard "Oh, the Lin Kuei are the greatest warriors on Earth" or something like that so he went looking, discovered the temple and begged to be let in, they only accepted him because his knowledge of alchemy, potions and poisons and shit, is so good it's almost like having a power, and he had to work REALLY hard to prove himself, and maybe feels like he STILL has a lot to prove, which is why he goes along with the cyber-initiative even though he doesn't really think it's a good idea.

I'd come up with real names for him and Sektor since the Subs and Smoke have them now...but to be honest, I'm not good at that sort of thing and I'd feel stupid if NRS went and gave them names later and I'd have to go back and change what I came up with.

As a sidenote, though, I will be using "Oniro" from Defenders of the Realm as the Grandmaster's real name. And his power will still be animal-shapeshifting. I thought it would be interesting if Sektor didn't inherit his powers, unlike how the Sub-Zeros' cryomancy runs in the family. Sektor's power is that he, as his name implies (sector - a word for a location/coordinate), can locate people mentally and teleport.
I thought that would add a little more motivation for Sektor to be not-so-close with his father and jealous of Sub-Zero.

Wow,dude,awesome ideas!

About the names of Sektor and Cyrax,I think it is not so important to this point. Well,you can have them to retell their bios later in the games,AFTER MK3,by which time we will have another MK game and will know of Cyrax's and Sektor's real names. But honestly,if NRS didn't bother in MK9 with their human forms ALREADY there,I doubt they will come back to it.

Speaking about them telling about their heritage,all these details you just wrote,they need to be revealed at some point. Which bring another question: WHEN they are going to tell them? Let me guess,ok? lol

Cyrax will probably tell his origins and how he got to Lin Kuei to Sonya and Jax in MK4,am I right? Cuz they will ask smth like "You are a good person,how did you end up with Lin Kuei?" or smth like that. OR his and Sektor's story could be told by Sub-Zero (Kuai Liang) in MK3 to whomever from Earth heroes. But I think the version with Jax and Sonya is better.

Sektor,well,we would have a hint about that in MK1 (remember our previous conversations?) and fully told maybe in MK3 (see above)? Actually,I have no idea. Maybe by Cyrax in MK4 again? He will tell Sonya and Jax "who the other red cyborg was during invasion" cuz probably Jax and Sonya met both Cyrax and Sektor when they were hunting Sub-Zero. Or maybe something else?

And what about Smoke's and Sub-Zero brothers'? That is a BIG question,especially with Smoke. Because the only time Smoke can tell his story is in MK2 because he is human and is not programmed and I doubt cyborgs can retell their lives (and plus,WHO he is gonna tell his life about in MK2,besides Sub-Zero? The only one he interacts a lot is probably Jade,who I don't think cares about bio,lol,she is there to kick his butt). But at MK2 he doesn't know he is enenra (because of his memory loss like in MK9),so where you gonna unveil his memories and tell his entire bio,in Deception maybe?

And Sub-Zero brothers...I guess it should be Kuai Liang to tell their life story with brother in Lin Kuei,but to whom and when? MK3? To Sonya maybe? (well,I always pictured them to have some kind of bond,especially in MKDA when,besides Raiden who is a God and knows enough about every member of his group, she is the only one from Earthrealm heroes who visits him in his new Lin Kuei HQ and becomes enemies with Frost, which tells me A LOT.And that bond HAD to be formed in MK3 because obviously she was captured most of the MK2 time. Or maybe she was distrustful of him in MK3,like in Defenders of the Realm cartoon,but after seeing good in him and how heroic he was during Shao Kahn's invasion,she became close to him during MK4? LOL,it is up to you of course,but I think it kinda makes sense,don't you think? And,I know I am REACHING,lol,but in MKDA intro where heroes are around the fire,Sonya and Sub-Zerp sit next to each other,haha)

Anyways,I am impatiently waiting for another update. Who is next one IF you decide to continue?Someone from MK2 cast or some MK1 NPC again?

I'm not sure every character's backstory would come up naturally in conversation during any of my game scripts.

I mean there are some, like I have a scene written for MK2 where, after Jax says something scientific, someone is surprised because Jax seems like just a big musclehead, so Jax explains that he originally joined the army to become an engineer, but ended up enjoying field work more...that way later, him building his bionic arms and the OIA's techno-portal will make sense for his character. And eventually Jax will explain Sonya's backstory to Johnny as well because those things are actually plot-relevant.

But some characters just don't have a reason to talk about their past. I figure instead, I'll just write out detailed bios with some stats like MK1 had, for every character once I get to a point where I have enough art of them to go with it. That way I can flesh them out even deeper than I could through mid-story exposition.
Anyway, I'll probably do some more MK1 NPCs next. I seem to be able to get them done a little quicker.

Okay,now it makes sense. Love Jax wanting to become an engineer at some point in his past,good one!

So what about Sonya/Sub-Zero thing? Do you agree or disagree? Just wanna know your opinion.

Which NPC are you gonna do? Great Kung Lao maybe? Or Bo Rai Cho?

Yeah, there was clearly some kind of friendship between Sub and Sonya in Deadly Alliance, with her visiting the Lin Kuei and the animosity between her and Frost, like she could just tell Frost would turn on him. Sonya's character has always been about how she's lost loved ones, so now she has a hard time trusting people but once she does let someone in, she gets all protective of them, after all.

I'll probably have the bond between them form during MK3, with her starting out not wanting to trust a Lin Kuei assassin but growing to respect him as they fight together, like in the pilot episode of Defenders of the Realm. I'll have her and Jax help him fight off the cyberninjas at some point. MK3 said Sub reprogrammed Cyrax, but Sub isn't a tech guy, so it would make more sense to have Jax do that anyway. That also sets up the OIA letting Cyrax in and helping un-automate him in MK4.

Anyway, the next guy I draw will probably be either the Lin Kuei Grandmaster, just to finish out the roster of that scene, or Jax in some olive green duds like Sonya's for the SF vs. Black Dragon scene, since I can also use that as his MK2 Alt Costume. I do mean to get Great Kung Lao and Bo' Rai Cho done sometime soon though, since I kinda skipped over them. ("Soon" being a relative term based on how often work fucks me out of having days off in the coming weeks...)

Good points Razor (as always as it seems,lol)

But the problem is,I thought Scorpion would try to help Sub-Zero fight off cyberninjas,not Jax and Sonya. Or am I missing something? (because I CLEARLY remember reading somewhere where you suggested that idea,probably messing that up). But if you are going with THOSE two,I guess it makes sense,ESPECIALLY considering ALSO Tekunin/Special Forces rivalry in future.

As for Jax and the Grandmaster,awesome,I might use them,since I am coming to that Grandmaster talking to Bi-Han about assassination of Shang Tsung scene very soon.IF,OF COURSE, you have time later,can you do all these Black Dragon guys except,obviously,Kano,cuz I want to see Tremor of your universe?

Don't worry, I'll get to the whole Black Dragon. I might even do No-Face, even though he's not in the scene. (I deliberately left him out since some of the gang are supposed to already be either captured or dead at that point.)

Anyway, Scorpion will team up with Sub too, a little later on. There will be multiple confrontations between Sub and the cyborgs, after all. One or two just to set up that they're hunting him, one where he frees Smoke, and the one where Cyrax is reprogrammed. Sub will also have to fight an Extermination Squad or two and one of those encounters will be where Scorp sides with him, since Scorp is supposed to start out on Kahn's side and not switch until he sees Sub is on the other side.

with Oniro, what colour are you going to have for him? (If he's ninja style), White like in MK:DotR (although I think White is better suited to Kuai Liang when he's still Tundra. Ooooo are you going to do Tundra too?) or Maroon like in MKM:SZ and MK:C, OR are you possibly going to make him have the Shinnok MKM:SZ style costume that he has in MK9?, OR is that Oniro's Alternate?.

p.s. if he's ninja style can you give him a mask like he has in MKM:SZ pppppppppplllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?

Oniro will look very similar to in Mythologies (I think it's fitting that he and Sektor both wear red, since in some ways Sektor is trying to be him), though he'll be more detailed and wearing the Dragon Medallion. I'll also draw him unmasked and his face'll look like in DotR.

Sweet so he's gonna use the dark red/maroon from Mythologies/Conquest. I suppose It's right that he be unmasked because you can't show that it's Oniro's face from MK:DotR when he's all masked up, but could you give him a masked look (but just a head shot) in the top corner like you did for Sektor and Cyrax?, oh and maybe i missed something (which is very possible), but I thought Cyrax's powers or Chi, if he has any, was his Net because in MK9 it showed that it was still all glowing and magical looking when he throws it while still human and not to forget his teleport move, he still has that while human and I know he uses a ninja smoke disappearing bomb to do the move while human but throwing down a smoke bomb and running away, effectivly "disappearing", then around quietly then turning up behind you is a little different to throwing down a smoke bomb and actually disappearing then reappearing in another puff of smoke in a different place i.e. in mid air or are those other tech things he has, or am I just reading to much into it?

Actually, what I meant is I'm gonna draw the Grandmaster the way I did Sektor and Cyrax. He'll be wearing his hood but there'll be a pic of his unmasked face in the corner.



Well...it could be coated in one of his potions and that's what makes it glow. If it is a superpower, it's a pretty shitty power.

But if I were to draw Human-Cyrax's net for the Razorverse, I'd actually draw a non-glowing brown rope net.

As for the teleport, I personally look at it as he's dropping the smokebomb and just running or jumping to someplace else...so, yeah, reading too much into it lol.

Awsome, I love the Razorverse, so will you be doing Kuai Liang as Tundra since you mentioned him in the MK1 RV script outline?, and would he be wearing White or some other kind of Blue?

Kuai Liang's "Tundra" costume will be his MK2 Alt. It'll probably be light blue, white would be too close to Smoke or too generic, I think
And I want Tundra to look much like a Sub-Zero anyway, because I plan to use the idea that "Tundra" was only ever a temporary codename, just a placeholder until he became the next Sub-Zero, because Mythologies suggested that the name "Sub-Zero" is inherited, it wasn't just Bi-Han's name, it was their father's and grandfather's and so on, the family legacy was not just the powers but the role itself. So Kuai was always eventually going to bear it if his brother retired or died.
Thus in the Razorverse, until MK2, Kuai actually hasn't gone on a lot of field missions, if any. Much like Cyrax he's sort of fresh out of training (though much less so). That he has so little experience committing murder and isn't at all used to it or hardened towards it will provide more explanation for why he's not as cold-hearted as his bro and prefers to spare opponents, and why he's not so indoctrinated and loyal to the ways of the clan.

I love your work, they all look fantastic!!

I can't wait to see more. Hope finish the MK2 ones until reach MK3 plus Skarlet & Rain.

Are they in deviantart? And what's with the script?

Yeah, all my work here can also be found at razorsedge701.deviantart.com

The MK pics are the same stuff I've posted in this thread, though, I haven't added any characters on one site that aren't at the other or anything like that...except Human Sektor and Cyrax, I haven't put them up on DA yet because I want to fill that pic out with more NPCs first.
But I guess you can still check out my DA page if you like, I've done some superhero stuff, redesigns of Justice League costumes, a few original characters, that sort of thing.



How do you mean? Have I made any progress on MK2? Not lately, I'm afraid.

Well the script, I wanted to know if its related to the MK2011 game, and are the MK character's costumes gonna be related to some in the 2011 game?

Story-wise, I take inspiration from MK9 only when it doesn't contradict MK1 thru Armageddon. For example, I'm keeping Smoke's new backstory, because Smoke didn't have a backstory before...but I'm not using Mileena's new origin or having the cyborgs show up during MK2 or anything like that. Mainly I'm doing this to flesh out the old timeline.

And my version of Armageddon will actually end with Taven/Daegon killing Blaze and the universe not coming to an end, at which point I'll start inventing my own plots instead of following the reboot.

Costume-wise, I pick and choose from every game to create what I think fits the story and looks best. My biggest inspirations are always Shaolin Monks and Deadly Alliance/Deception, but if I liked something in MK9, I'll use it.

Think it makes sense.

Smoke should've had a kusarigama in his moveset.

But it would also be nice if Daegon was defeated and Taven fights off Blaze. Of course, Taven fights Shao Kahn, and uses Raiden's amulet to communicate with the thunder god's past self of the events. I don't know.

Raiden doesn't have an amulet in MK1 thru A. That plot device will not exist in my version either.

I'm simply going to have Armageddon be settled by the characters fighting out their differences. Some will die, some will not, and then a few years of peace will pass and a new villain will arise as though it was any other game, not the end of the world.

Are you gonna do Noob Saibot the alternate costumes of MK2 & do MK3 next? Hope you'll do Quan Chi, Skarlet, Rain & Kenshi next.

I like Smoke's costumes. Especially with him having silver/white/gray hair and a kusarigama in his arsenal.

Explain to me why Smoke will wield that weapon and it won't be like Scorpion's.

Well I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about what his movelist would be like since that's not something I can cover in the costume designs or story writing...but I sort of imagine that Smoke hooks you with the sickle end, but you don't get pulled close and stunned for a free hit like Scorpion's spear, instead Smoke yanks really hard and you're flung across the arena. He'd also probably throw it in an overhand arc instead of a straight line.

And like in the drawing, he'd maybe have a simple "does damage and nothing else" projectile attack where he angles the spiked end of the chain off the ground with his foot and it stabs you from a diagonal direction?

And remember that axe the palette swap ninjas had in UMK3 that they'd hold in some of their combos? Smoke would attack with the sickle like that.

Man,I still can't get over this "Smoke uses Scorpion's weapon" thing in your art. I mean,of course,I get it,it is reference Smoke being Scorpion's clone,but it kinda takes away the whole potential and uniqueness of Smoke's powers. And plus,his only human form (I don't consider MK Deception his human form) is in MK2,so I thought he should have been extremely impressive with his powers like Sub-Zero,that Lin Kuei selected him to be one of the first to Cyber Initiative. His rank (as well as Sub-Zero's) is not so high,so I figured he should be very good with using his powers.

While using this spear move for MK2 is still fine with me to some degree,him using the spear move (trident actually) doesn't sit well in my head,since he became cyborg,and being cyborg enhances your powers to a new whole level. And Smoke having all these awesome smoke powers and using stupid trident is kinda ridiculous if you ask me. He should be like deadly machine that kills 30-40 people with ease in one minute or so,while constantly being everywhere using his teleports across the place,snapping necks,cutting throats,filling enemies with gas and smoke with such quick speed. After all,he was the hidden cyborg out of three and was kinda easy to play with,so I figured he should be the hardest one to beat.

I just think since Smoke appeared so rare in original chronology,you should really expand his skills that use smoke powers,not the moves he copied from Scorpion,if you know what I mean. But that's just me...