There will be no Classic Sub-Zero in my version of MK3, due to his non-canon status. (Well, except for the fact that Kuai's alt costume will probably have a mask.)

I am considering replacing that character with a version of Cyber-Sub, a frankenstein-like cyborg made from Bi-Han's corpse, to establish that the Lin Kuei tested the automation process on cadavers before doing something as crazy as wiring this junk to live humans as valuable as the grandmaster's son without being sure whether or not it would even work first.

But I'm not sure if that's feasable given said corpse would be just a charred skeleton, so I haven't decided for sure whether or not I'm going to do that yet. I could pull a Mass Effect 2 and say that despite all the damage, there's still enough brain tissue left in the skull to make it work, lol. Or, could use it as a way to introduce the nanobots that provide the healing and immune system of the cyberninjas (and later take over Smoke's body in Deception), say that they used them to repair some of the damage to his remains.

Wow!! I love your human Cyrax and Sektor drawings Razor!

Kind of sad that you won't have that, but your idea for making him a cyborg is cool indeed. On another topic, i'm really looking foward to see what will do with Noob Saibot's costume, and i'm pretty sure i won't be dissapointed ;)

Hope you'll complete what you're accomplishing on the MK2 series. I can't wait for their costumes to look MK9 even the MK3 characters + Tremor.

So Razor,did you cook up something for Noob Saibot?

I wonder if your MK2 design for him will be your MK1 primary costume for Sub-Zero but of course turned black with some Brotherhood of Shadows Logos instead of Lin Kuei ones.

Did you start on Kintaro or Shao Kahn yet?

"Sub-Zero in black" will be his alt costume. Noob's primary will be a bit more Deception/MK9-ish. And no, unfortunately I haven't started Kintaro or Kahn yet.

Oh,but I thought you are gonna introduce this Reaper theme for Noob later...So you are not gonna significantly change his primary and alt for MK3,MK4 and MKDA(considering he is there because of MK Tournament Edition) like in Raiden's case?

Well I won't say exactly the same like how I'm not gonna change Raiden's outfit, there'll probably be subtle differences to his armor, sort of an evolution where it starts out looking very similar to the Lin Kuei armor but gradually becomes something different and original to reflect the amount of time spent in the Brotherhood of Shadow.

Similar to how my Scorpion's MK1 outfit looked more like he did when he was alive but his clothes get more hellish in MK2.
For instance, MK2 Noob won't have sleeves in either of his costumes, but I'll probably add sleeves to him in MK3 or 4. I also haven't decided yet if his hood will be tight like the other ninjas or baggy like in MK9.

I think you should apply the opposite logic to Scorpion in the case of Noob Saibot. Since Scorpion had baggy costumes,and then he got tigher outfits because of hell's influence,you can do otherwise for Bi-Han,since he had tight uniforms while being Lin Kuei (like your Sub primary costume in MK1),with more time in Brotherhood of Shadows,he will look more and more like Reaper,but of course slowly throughout the games.

http://www.layoutsparks.com/pictures/reapers-0
http://www.ioffer.com/i/skull-design-grim-reaper-large-posters-16-x-20-inch-58793396

You see how loose the outfit for Reapers always looks? I think you should apply that logic,by making Noob's costume look baggier and more loose every game.

Except only Deception probably,because storywise he wants to conquer Hell and rule it and therefore should have more of Shinnok's style (Ruler of Hell,duh!) for his clothes I think,throughout the series Noob Saibot probably shouldn't change the theme of his clothes that much.

Still no updates yet. I'll give it time.

Its still taking forever. :(

I've known about this for months now, but never actually posted. Amazing stuff, man! I'm excited to see what else you come out with, even if some of characters I'm looking forward to seeing won't be showing up until MK3 and onward.

I felt like guessing/sharing some ideas on what some of the MKII alternates will be. I know of the ones you've already mentioned before:

Raiden - Samurai armour based on original MKII costume.
Kung Lao - Masked Guard disguise from MK1 portion.
Johnny Cage - MKII bio blazer.
Jax - Camo gear from MK1 portion.
Sub-Zero - Tundra.
Shang Tsung - Leather trenchcoat.
Noob Saibot - Bi-Han in black.

And here's my guesses for the rest.

Liu Kang - His jacket from the comic? I know you said you were saving it for a later game, but I can also see it working for MK3 and 4 too. Maybe his Karate Kid alternate costume from 4? And I know it's a loooooooong time until you get to it, but for Deception, will Liu's alt be him alive like in the game, or as a spirit like in most endings and his training mission in Konquest mode?

Scorpion - No idea. I know you said you try to go with street clothes or origin story, and the only thing I can think of is an alive Hanzo Hasashi costume. But I'm assuimg that if you'd gone with that, it would have been his alt. in the MK1 portion.

Kitana - I'm guessing even more covered up assassin-y costume with darker colours? Got nothing really.

Baraka - Only thing street clothes/origin story I can think of is giving him less clothes, sort of shirtless with ripped up trousers and various horrific scars and wounds over his body to show off all his Tarkatan savagery.

Reptile - Got no idea at all.

Mileena - Showing off her teeth and all that?

Smoke - Only think I can think of is a "this is what Smoke wore in training" costume.

Jade - Got nothing. Might have noticed by now that it's the ninjas that I'm having trouble guessing.

Skarlet - Both costumes being updates of her two MK9 costumes?

Kintaro Primary - Basically just his MKII costume? I can't really think of anything that needs changing.

Kintaro Alternate - Wearing rags instead of armour and is all dirty looking, to show off all his lower-classness?

Shao Kahn Primary - Basically his MKII costume? I'm guessing without his cape since he wouldn't wear it as part of the tournament but he'll have the cape in MK3?

Shao Kahn Alternate - Unmasked and showing off what he looked like as Outworld's Protector God?

Blaze and Hornbuckle - Dunno. Still haven't figured out if they're NPCs or playable (I've probably missed a post addressing that).

I kinda feel bad spoiling all my plans because I feel like it both robs the reveal of some excitement when I finally finish them and it'll make you guys more impatient for me to get them done, and it is going to be a while before I ever get back to them I'm afraid because I've got a lot of crap going on in my life right now...but I do like to talk and maybe knowing what's coming will actually take some of the edge off instead, I dunno.

But yeah, the ones you've listed so far are all stuff I've said already. To be more specific about Shang's, it'll be what Cary Tagawa wore in the movie. But with a goatee.



Yeah, I was thinking the jacket from the MK1 comic and/or the white headband look from 4. They're just about the same thing, the only difference being how he's wearing his hair.

As for Deception, the alt will be Ghost Liu instead of resurrected human, since that's not even what happened to him in that game. I should also point out at this time that if I ever make it to Armageddon, not every costume will match the pasted-in-from-previous-games ones they used in the actual game.

I mean, some characters will be wearing the same stuff, if it makes plot sense. But anyone who goes through a change in that game will have that reflected, like Kano will show some signs of the Red Dragons' experiments, he might be scaly in places...Hsu Hao will be undead, maybe even full oni (which refers more to his non-canon ending, I know, but I'd rather use it as his bio since it fits what happened to him in Deadly Alliance)...anyone who didn't get a story, I'll be trying to come up with one for them that fits. But that's years and years from now, I shouldn't get ahead of myself.

As for Kung Lao's alt, I'm not sure yet if it'll be the Masked Guard disguise or something else because I'll definitely be including that one under the MK1 NPCs and I dunno if it makes sense to use it twice since he doesn't even wear that during MK2. So his alt may instead be sort of monk robes like a blue and black version of Liu's MK1 alt or sort of a take on his original MK2 game outfit...or it might be something "White Lotus Society" themed. I saw fan art once of him dressed in a modern suit and tie with his hat on that looked really dapper and somehow fit his character that I'd maybe like to use at some point but I dunno if that makes sense or if MK2 is the place for it or not. It would certainly capture the "has been living abroad, training in other countries" idea White Lotus members have going for them.



Yeah, his MK1 alt was the closest I'll get to "living Hanzo", though I may edit that one to put his head back on his shoulders and de-corpse-ify the skintone for a Mythologies roster.

For the MK2 alt I was thinking something shirtless with the skull revealed, similar to a sketch Jax007 did once.



I'm not sure yet, either what you described or maybe come up with the Outworld version of a Princess dress and then make it all torn and bloody like it's seen battle. And whatever I pick, Mileena's alt will be the same but more damaged and/or more revealing.



I was thinking armor similar to Kahn's, like the grunt soldiers wear in Deception Konquest.



His MK2 alt will probably be a version of the MK3 ninja costume, with the "disguise" human skintone from his MK1 primary. I think of the MK3 costume as a "Kahn's army uniform for ninjas" because I dunno how many people ever noticed this, but every single ninja in MK3 is a member of Kahn's army (except Classic Sub who's non-canon), which makes the palette swapping actually kinda make sense...though I'll still give them all some unique details.



Since Smoke never gets to go unmasked like Sub does in 3, he turns into a robot instead, I'm going to use his MK2 alt to give him a "what if he didn't get automated and went on the run?" outfit. It'll have no hood and a scarf covering his mouth in place of a mask, his silver hair will be cut short, and his outfit will look a bit like this, I like the blue and gold pattern on the underclothes.



Probably something that looks like Slave Leia/a stripper/harem dancer. That's what they always seem to do for her alts.



Skarlet's primary will take her MK9 costume and make the cloth parts bigger/cover more skin, the end result will look a bit like a red Kasumi from DOA I think. Her alt will probably involve Kahn-esque samurai armor cuz I want to push the angle that since he created her directly, she's more of a true daughter than Mileena or Kitana are.



On the primary, pretty much, yeah. I'll probably make his belt blue like in Shaolin Monks to differentiate him from Goro more. On the alt, I'm thinking something gladiator-like, lots of brown leather straps and such, since that's how I see him, as a guy who climbed the ranks from poverty/slavery and got famous by fighting in Kahn's Arena, which is why they always chant his name when he comes out in cutscenes, he's sort of "the people's champ" there.




Yeah, there'll be no surprises on Kahn's primary, his look in the original MK2 and 3 is perfect and I was so pissed they messed with it in 9. For his alt, definitely unmasked. Not sure what he'll have on from the neck down, possibly the heavy armor he wore in the Conquest TV show, though I may save that for his 3 Alt so I can include the half-skull-mask on his face too, 'cause I always liked that look.



Those two will be on the roster with Skarlet, though I still have no idea how I'm going to make their fight on the bridge relevant to the plot when I do the script. Anyway, I think Blaze's alt will probably be based on the concept art of him in DA's Krypt where he has spiky fire-hair. Not sure what I'm doing with Hornbuckle's costumes yet, I guess one will look like a robed priest from Onaga's egg chamber and the other needs to look slightly like Liu Kang in green, but beyond that...I'm thinking of trying to base his facial features on Jackie Chan instead of Bruce Lee maybe?

I have questions about the MK3 costumes later on....

Shao Kahn
Primary - His MK9
Alternate - Conquest

Liu Kang
Primary - MK9
Alternate - Jacket on

Kung Lao
Primary - MK3 but upgraded
Alternate - would you make something monk-like?

Sindel
- Primary: MK9
- Alternate: MK9

Sonya
- Primary: MK9 but with headband?
- Alternate: MK Annihilation movie?

Jax
- Primary: MK9 Bionics
- Alternate: Something new?

Shang Tsung
- Primary: MK9
- Alternate: MKDA primary?

Sub-Zero
- Primary: Unmasked mixed with MKDA Primary
- Alternate: MKDA alternate/MKD Primary?

Cyrax & Sektor
- Primary: Robots MK9
- Alternate: Humans MK9

Stryker
- Primary: MK9
- Alternate: MKA primary or alternate? Or something new?

Nightwolf
- Primary: MK9
- Alternate: MK9

Kitana
- Primary: Unmasked MKDA or MK9?
- Alternate: Masked from MK9?

Mileena
- Primary: MK9 primary or something new?
- Alternate: MK9 alternate

Kabal
- Primary: MK9
- Alternate: MK9 before his respirator or with respirator?

Jade (Since some of her costumes are like MK Deception, what about these?)
- Primary: MK9
- Alternate: MKD

Noob Saibot
- Primary: MK9 primary (the alternate in 9 will be for Noob in 2?)
- Alternate: Wraith face/unmasked

Smoke
- Primary: Robot - mixed with MKDeception & 3
- Alternate: Human - Enenra

Scorpion
- Primary: MK9
- Alternate: MK9 but showing fiery skull?

Reptile
- Primary: MK9
- Alternate: MK2011

Ermac
- Primary: MK9
- Alternate: MKD Unmasked prototype?

Rain
- Primary: MK9
- Alternate: Unmasked in some prince uniform?

Shao Kahn:
I'm not likely to at any point use the MK9 costume. The thing about Kahn and Outworld to me is it's all supposed to look like a hellish or fantasy version of Feudal Japan and he's supposed to look like a barbaric Samurai.

And the MK9 outfit captures none of that, the armor isn't the right style, the big flap on the back of his helmet is missing vital details, it just looks too European. And maybe a bit Aztec, I dunno, but it's not right for him. MK3 Kahn will probably just be MK2 Kahn with a cape.

Liu Kang:
Well I'm doing the jacket in 2 so 3's alt will be something else. I have no idea what yet, I'll probably watch some Bruce Lee movies and copy something, but I'm going to avoid the famous Game of Death yellow tracksuit, doesn't really fit Liu's character.

Kung Lao:
I'll probably do a suit and tie for his MK3 alt and for his MK2 alt, blue monk robes with a black apron to call back to his original MKII outfit. Might switch that though, not sure yet. It's a plot matter, whichever one makes sense for him to wear in which game. I'm thinking the suit and tie makes more sense for 3 because the plot has him knowing the invasion's coming and trying to get the White Lotus together before it hits, whereas all he can do in 2 before the tournament is be at the Shaolin Temple when Baraka attacks, so robes are probably more appropriate there.

Sindel:
Not sure I'd use the MK9 alt. Might come up with something original. My notes read to do what she looked like before she died, without the striped hair and white eyes.

Sonya:
Her primary will be based on her MK3 look. A turtleneck tanktop and pants that are striped with camo like Jax's MK2 pants. For her alt, something similar to her MKDA alt, either fatigues or a dress uniform for a normal Green Beret.

Jax:
I dunno that the primary will look quite like MK9, I mean obviously he'll be shirtless with metal arms, but since they're big gloves instead of replacements for blown off arms in the original canon, they won't be all bolted into the flesh of his shoulders. And the pants will be pretty much the same as in 2 but the camo will be purple instead of red.

My notes for his alt just say to put him in a "scientist" outfit with a hardhat like in his MK3 ending where he invents the techno-portal.


Shang Tsung:
I dunno, his MK9 primary goes a little into cartoony territory with the snake decorations. I was thinking something more like his MKvsDCU outfit. With the MK3 facepaint added. His alt will be a Shadow Priest look with a purple cloak.

Sub-Zero
You're right on the primary, the MK3/DA outfit with a red scar and the symbols on the suspenders. His alt will be a ninja costume with the mask ripped up and a more fresh and bloody scar.

Sektor/Cyrax:
I'm actually not a fan of the MK9 Cyrax design, mine will lean more towards Deadly Alliance. I'm not sure if the alts will be them fully human, since I've already done that for the MK1 NPCs, or if it'll show them in a sort of incomplete/mid-surgery cyborg form, like with their helmets off and wires sticking out and such.

Stryker:
You're pretty much right, he's one of the few characters MK9 got right in both costumes. I might give his alt a bulky SWAT helmet just to make it different from the ballcap though, I dunno yet, might look too silly.

Nightwolf:
I intend to make Primary Nightwolf's vest look more biker-y with the symbol on the back and such. His alt will look like Indiana Jones a bit, I wanna play up the fact that he has a damned real world job, he's a "historian". I've never liked how stereotypical and 1700's-y they tend to make the poor bastard look since Tobias's original concept when they invented Nightwolf was to specifically NOT do that or make him a ripoff of other fighting game Indians like T.Hawk, he's supposed to be modern and not just a guy who sits on the reservation and lives in the past.

Kitana:
I don't like either of her MK9 outfits at all.

Her primary's gonna be a bit weird...I really liked the picture Jax007 did of her a year or two ago and it sort of inspired me to come up with a more "Earthrealm" take on her clothes since her story is that she escapes to Earth to hide from being tried for Mileena's murder, so I sort of have her fashioning something that looks like her MK3 outfit out of a leather corset and stuff that you could buy in a real store.

Her alt depends on what I decide for her MK2 alt. If I do the "more clothed dark assassin" look for 2, I'll do a "Outworld Princess in a dress or kimono" look for 3, or vice versa.

Mileena
Primary will pretty much be MK9's but with a ponytail. (Every ninja girl in 3 wears their hair up. Kitana has the bun, Mileena a ponytail, and Jade the "Ox-horn" buns from Deception. Not sure for Khameleon yet.) Her alt will look zombie-ish since she died in 2.

Kabal
Don't like MK9 Kabal either. The sleeveless robe top and all the fiddly little details totally lose that cool "you could buy this in a store" look his khakis have in 3 and Deception. And the spikes on the mask are totally unnecessary. So...yeah, his primary will be exactly like in Deception.

My notes for his alt say to do him unmasked before he got the scars but since I'll be doing that for the MK1 NPCs, I'll have to do something else. Maybe his MK9 alt but without the blue cop shirt since he's not a cop in my timeline, he stays Black Dragon and the invasion is what makes him turn good.

Jade:
Her primary will be her MKD Alt...since that's pretty much an MK3 ninja girl costume anyway. Her alt will be some sort of amazonian guerilla jungle girl outfit I think, something that says "Edenian rebellion". I dunno, I only have vague notes there.

Noob Saibot:
His primary will look similar to all the other UMK3 ninjas since like I said before, that's a uniform for all the ninjas working for Kahn. Noob's unique details will be his MK9 primary's mask with the baggy hood and probably some bondage-y lookin' belts and stuff wrapped around him.

My notes for his alt say to make him totally black with no detail like in the old games but that sounds boring so I'll probably come up with something else.

Smoke
His primary will pretty much be the robot form in Deception. His alt will be some sort of injured during capture and half-transformed partial cyborg look similar to what I suggested for Sektor and Cyrax's alts.

I may add Smoke to MK4 and do him as an Enenra in that one, with the story being "Well, cyborgs lose their souls...so where do they go? He's a demon so his went to Hell. And then it re-merges with his body in Deception when Noob takes Cyber-Smoke there, which is what causes his malfunctions and mutation into a cyber-demon/his nanobot form."

Scorpion
His primary will look very much like UMK3, or to be more specific, his Shaolin Monks in-game model.

His alt will be more MK9ish, showing that the more he works for the side of evil, the more evil he looks, like his costume is turning into some sort of tumor or cancerous growth over his body. (Something I already established with his MK2 outfit becoming more spiked and bony and his wedding ring stained black.)

Reptile:
His primary will probably be his MK2 alt, the uniform based on UMK3, except with green scales instead of the human disguise skintone. His alt will be more like his MK9 primary, something with primitive/tribal looking armor for war.

Ermac:
I prefer the less detailed Deception outfit over the MK9 version. I'll modify it to look more like a UMK3 ninja too. His alt will probably have a "souls leaking out" look to it, similar to this. I'm not a fan of the idea of showing Ermac's face or hair, he's not supposed to have anything that would give him one single identity.

Rain:
His primary will be similar to MK9, modified to look more UMK3-ish. For his alt I figure I'll have his hair out like in Armageddon, maybe give him the tiny cape too. Other than that, not sure, I'll probably draw from all the unused MK9 concept art, I have always liked the ones where it looked like his arms were made of water...

Kano:
Pretty much his MK9 primary, I suppose, but with the more balding hairstyle and heart monitor belt from my MK1. My notes say to give him a "General" outfit like Reiko and Goro for his alt, with the Sonya hair necklace from Deadly Alliance.

Raiden:
Probably gonna keep his primary the same as in 2. His alt will be something that looks like he's fallen and become mortal, maybe with some battle damage, since the Elder Gods make him give up his godhood to fight in the invasion.

Baraka:
No surprises here, probably keep the same primary from 2. His alt will show how he's been cut in half by Kung Lao, with either a gigantic chest and face wound or the MK Gold staples. I guess he'd look dead without the staples, so probably that. The clothes will likely be a shirtless version of his military gear.

Johnny Cage:
Pretty much his MK9 primary. The alt will be a zombie in a tux since he dies fighting back home in LA at the beginning of the invasion, lol.

Motaro:
I'd like to redesign the armor over his belly and tail so it looks more medieval instead of cybernetic, since technology doesn't make any sense for an Outworlder. I'll probably put some sort of clothing or detail on him too, no idea what yet though. His alt will look like his MKA alt with the tribal war paint and such, but with four legs of course.

Sheeva:
I'm thinking something more like Armageddon than like MK9 for her primary, a bit more covered up and detailed. No idea for her alt yet, dunno if I wanna draw from her MK9 alt or not.

Chameleon/Khameleon:
I actually haven't decided this for sure, but there's a distinct possibility I may do Male Chameleon as the alt costume of Female Khameleon. Not that they'd be the same character storywise, it'd just save some trouble since Male Chameleon is barely a character and has no reason to have an alt costume.

Either way, the female's costume will look a bit more like a female version of Reptile in a silver ninja girl suit, instead of being see-thru with Sindel hair like she was in Armageddon.

Tremor:
His primary will probably look similar to a Sub-Zero outfit in brown, with all the Lin Kuei logos switched out for Black Dragon ones. His alt will be something more "street", more knitcap and bandana than ninja hood and mask. Not sure yet just how rocky his skin will be, if it'll be just a layer of dirt caked over his arms like Sub's ice or if he'll be made of rock like the God of Earth in Mythologies.

Im looking forward to your MK2 alternate costumes. Any possibility of them coming soon???

I won't be comfortable with the idea of Kahn's primary be the same as 2. I'd like it if it was like the Deception/Armageddon/DCU primary.



I'd like it if his MK3 was the MK9 primary. I'm sure you'll come up with something for the alt.


Don't think I'll like the hardhat to suit Jax.

You'll come up with something.


Which ninja costume though? MK9?

Hey Razor,I have one question: how are you gonna explain the fact that Tremor is not hunted by Lin Kuei for joining Black Dragon?

What if Tremor was a payment/part of a payment for that Lin Kuei/Black Dragon Cyber Initiative deal? (Who knows,maybe Lin Kuei didn't trust Black Dragon very much in that deal,so they infiltrated Tremor as an insurance. Because therwise,Cyrax,Sektor and Smoke should have hunted Tremor as well...)
I know it is not costume question,sorry.

Ah, I haven't seen the comic jacket, so I just assumed they looked different.

Yeah, it always that they made a ghost model for his training mission in Konquest but didn't have it playable in any way. Although I felt the same way with them having Raiden's MKDA primary in konquest not being playable either and being unable to select young Shujinko when you get to play as him in the early training missions. I mean, the models are in there and are programmed to be used in fights, I'm sure no one would be that offended if those three characters had one more costume than the others.

Also glad to know characters are getting new costumes for Armageddon. Will that also apply to Kitana in Deception/Unchained so she'll get the costume she's wearing in Ermac and Sindel's endings?



I did a quick image search and is this the fanart you saw? When I read the idea I wasn't sure, but after seeing that, I can definitely see it working well. http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs24/i/2007/362/e/d/Kung_Lao_Evolution_by_W_Orks.jpg



Looked for the sketch and I can also see that working, although the idea of a shirtless Scorpion always seemed strange and unfitting to me, don't know why.



I see. And extending the "Mileena's costume is a more revealing Kitana's" to the alternate makes perfect sense.



Oh yeah, I was even playing Konquest a couple says ago but never considered that.



I never did consider that. And it makes more sense than the lizard head he has in his MKII ending since that looks more like his devolved state in DA.



That's a cool idea. And the mention of his hair cut short makes me think of his unmasked appearance from Defenders of the Realm but with the hair painted silver.



Makes perfect sense.



I never thought about that before for the alt. Sounds interesting.



Oh, I see. I always thought of Kintaro's costume as a dual-purpose general and gladiator costume, but your idea makes more sense.



I agree with just about everything there. In fact, the only time in the games after MK3 I've liked Shao Kahn's look is the DA opening, which I find kind of amusing with it not even being the real him. And that's just because it looks exactly like his MKII/3 costume.

And I think the Conquest armour is better saved for MK3, so he can have the helmet like you said. And I just thought, if he is going to be holding his hammer in your art, would one of his costumes replace it in the art with his scepter from all the MKII and MKT stages he's sitting the background? Kind of like how Raiden's MK1 alt replaces his staff with the drumstick?



No complaints there. I think going with Jackie Chan for Hornbuckle's face also makes sense.

I'll comment on the MK3 ones too.



I definitely agree with not using that for his alt, especially since it will make him look like a Marshall/Forest Law ripoff since they've had that costume in just about every Tekken game I can think of. I can't really help give ideas though, since the only Bruce Lee film I've seen is Fist of Fury and that was a few years ago.



So kind of like the clothes she's seen wearing in her MK3 ending?



These all sound perfect.




The most important part hasn't been mentioned: Forwards cap or backwards cap?



I cannot agree more. The more stereotypical they make his costumes, the worse they look. His MKD alt is by far my least favourite costume in the entire series.



Not a big fan of the bun, but it does fit her.



I'm guessing the alt will include her white eyes from MK Gold then?



Agreed on the primary. For the alt, I think a burnt and unmasked original MK3 costume could work. After burning so he has all the scars, but before he gets his respirator so no mask or backpack. Also no trenchcoat since it got burned off by the extermination squad or something.



Sounds good.



For the alt, maybe a very dark blue tinted UMK3 ninja costume to reference UMK3 Classic Sub?



Mentions of MKD Smoke makes me think, will all the cyber ninjas have the MK3 head or will Cyrax and Sektor have it because they were the first and Smoke's MKD one is a later design or will they all have different heads?

I never thought about Smoke's soul going to hell when he became a cyborg, I just always thought the cyborg's souls were trapped in some kind of limbo.



Huh, I played a lot of Shaolin Monks when I first got it, but I never realised Scorpion's costumes in FMVs and gameplay were different until reading that.

And I like the idea of his clothes getting more hellish as it goes on. Will that theme continue for his alts in 4 and DA? I'm assuming it wouldn't be in MKD with the whole Elder Gods champion thing?



I don't really have much to say, they all make sense. Although I wish you could fit in Kano's clothes from his MK1 ending. Maybe his DA alt?



Was it intentional that the two (canon) characters who simply reused their MKII sprites for MKT are the only ones who don't change their primary costumes? If so, it's a nice touch. I also like the ideas for their alts.



I really like the idea for that alt. Will the way Motaro kills him be with a spear through the gut like in the MK9 visions? If so, will the alt have a gaping stomach wound?



I'm glad to see this, I don't like the weird forked laser tail he had in MK9. Not sure about the alt since I didn't like the way it looked in MKA. Maybe it'll look better with four legs.



I tried to think of some NPCs or enemies from both Konquests that she could have a costume based on, but I got nothing.



If Chameleon's gonna made up of Saurians in the Flesh Pits, then maybe a mostly clothesless version where you can see many parts of different Saurians have been cut up and put together? Like you can see where the bits that belong to a certain Saurian ends with all the different parts having different shaped or coloured scales? Maybe give him something like Reptile's MK4 steel thong thing to stop him being completely naked.

For Khameleon's alt, it could just be "this is what female raptors normally wore".



No problems here.

Well I'm saving that for Deception. Shao Kahn's not the sort of guy who changes his clothes often, he sits on his throne and does the same thing every day wearing the same thing every day. Raiden and Shinnok are much the same way, which is why I plan to reuse Raiden's MK2 costume in 3 and maybe even 4.



Well the MK2 primary (which is largely based on his MK9 outfit anyway, the only difference being it doesn't have the big ogre shoulder pads, which I think should only be on the MKD Cryomancer armor). That's what he wears to the tournament, so that's what he's wearing when he comes home from it and thus, it's what he's wearing when he gets his face scarred escaping the Lin Kuei.



Well, Bi-Han and Scorpion don't really have faces anymore, but you'll probably see an unmasked version of him when I get to MK4.



I don't care what they do in MK10, I'm following the old timeline and always have been.



I dunno about showing Rain's face, I'll do it if I can't come up with anything more creative, but that's kind of a bland way to go unless it fits the story like how Sub-Zero's reason for unmasking is he's not a ninja anymore.



Well I'm not sure the Black Dragons have a team color scheme other than just, y'know, black. Kabal, Tasia, Jarek, and Tremor all wear completely different colors though, lots of brown and green in that pack. Gangs like Kano's aren't exactly the most organized and uniformed.



Well that doesn't happen in the old timeline. I might do something like that for Armageddon or the fan fiction I come up with after MKA though, since Johnny kind of steps up to become the leader of the good guys in MKA because Liu's dead and Raiden's evil.



I came up with a story for him I really like, so I'm definitely doing him.



Tremor's primary will probably be some combo of all the Sub costumes I've done, much like how my Sektor and Cyrax human outfits are. He'll likely use heavy metal armor like the MK2 Sub Primary though. The alt will probably have some things in common with Jax007's because it'll be the same general idea, but I'm not gonna copy it, he won't have a bare head with a mohawk for example.



I hadn't really worked it out yet to be honest. I was thinking that maybe the Lin Kuei DOES hunt him down like they do Sub-Zero during MK3, and perhaps the reason they haven't before is they thought he was dead or didn't know his whereabouts...but considering the Black Dragon and Lin Kuei do have a partnership going on during the Cyber-Intiative, it probably would make more sense if he was technically a member of both, like he's still with the clan and the BD just pays to have him do merc work for them.



The Mileena in blue look? Yeah, probably. I'm sure I'll give all five of the folks Onaga mind controls some sort of fitting "slave" outfits. They'll definitely all be on my Deception roster, not just Kitana and Jax.



Yep, that's the one.



He'll definitely be holding *something* in each costume. The Arena scepter in one, a green javelin in another, the hammer in MK3...



Yeah, but perhaps more "young and pretty". I've never really liked Sindel's face. I'm not sure if it's just the wrinkles or if it's that the harshness of her features combined with wearing such garish makeup makes her look way more like a crossdressing man than a woman. I can definitely see why so many actual crossdressers and gay men make up her fanbase, but with no offense to those folks, the way she looks has always been unpleasant to me in a way that goes way beyond the fact that she's supposed to look like the Bride of Frankenstein, and I plan on softening her a bit.



Y'know, I have no problem with him wearing it backwards, I wear a hat backwards all the time myself...but he does look more badass with it forward. Perhaps I'll do it backward in his alt if I don't do the helmet.



I always hated it too at first, but I've found that it looks way better with loose bangs, like in Shaolin Monks.



Indeed.



I dunno, Kuai Liang's alt should suffice as the "Classic Sub" costume, and Noob's primary will use the UMK3 design so it makes more sense to do something different with his alt.



Their heads will all be similar to in MK3, but not identical. Sektor's will be more like 9, Cyrax's will be the most pure, and Smoke's will be like in Deception, so 3-ish but with no dreads and gas tubes coming out of his cheeks.



Partially. Mostly it's just that Raiden and Baraka don't have much reason to change their clothes.



I'm not sure why Motaro needs a spear when he's got that tail...but it'll be similar. I'm sure there'll be a lot more damage than just a stabbing.



Well the steel undies never made sense to me, they look goddamn cybernetic. I'm gonna redesign Reptile's pants when I do MK4. If I give Chameleon an alt, the stitched together look ain't a bad idea but I'm sure I'll come up with something better to cover his...er...cloaca?

Sorry about the Black Dragon colors part.

What I mean is about Kano in his MK9 alt/MKDA primary?

If you mean "will he wear black with red trim", yes.

After all, his MK9 primary is exactly the same as his MK3 outfit, with more detailed gloves and boots. He'll have that when I do MK3.

And his alt will also be black and red because it'll be armored similar to Kahn or Reiko.

What of Liu Kang's MK9 costumes? I like his mk9 primary for his mk3 primary.

Well I like the belt with red flaps look from 9 well enough...but I've always really liked the original striped pants from MK2 and 3 too so I'm thinking that since Liu's a pretty simple guy who doesn't change much, his MK3 outfit will be his MK2 outfit without the title belt, and with more wrappings around his shins like in the original MK3 or Shaolin Monks.

I'll probably use his MK9 outfit in 4 though, instead of the red tanktop. Maybe his MK3 or 4 alt will be the red tanktop with a leather jacket to sort of have a Robin Shou Movie Liu look though, since I'm using his original black and white MK4 alt as his MK2 alt.

Scorpion's MK9 primary costume fits him well in 3's primary.

Plus Jax's alternate for 3 can surely be something thats not like his MKDA alt without the bionics.

What about the samurai outfit from MKDA/MKD for Raiden's alternate in 3?