Yep, so Scorpion's memory is wrong. Quan Chi tricked him. I am going to give benefit of the doubt.

Yep, exactly what I was thinking. I like this Kittelsen dude. He writes this stuff a lot like I would.

C'mon T-Rex? Out with the old and in with the new. This may have been Tobias' baby once but he abandoned her a long time ago when he found out his creativity with the story was lacking. Kittelson in a very short time has really done a very good job with what he has. The story got so convoluted and poorly written after MK3 that you may as well change it up even drastically. I feel your pain but I like this guys approach. I'm guessing Hanzo's mind was being twisted since he went after the prize in Mythologies. He was only human then and probably much easier to manipulate. His story is off a bit. But how much since Kittelson has changed some things?

This is pretty much why I like Kittelsen. He's legitimately one of us. He doesn't shy away from making things more clear for us online when we're confused about something, he expands upon things a lot of us wanted expanded upon after MK9 and after learning more about the story of MKX, he's doing every single fucking character justice (i.e. Reiko). Hell, he even made Hsu Hao more badass even though he fucking died a few panels later.

I'm in nerd love with the way this guy is handling MK.

10/10 made me reply


I don't mind "new".
In fact, I love "new".
"New" is great.

But you know what I do have a problem with?

When in order for this "new" to exist, it becomes somehow necessary to go back and shit all over the "old".

It's cool when you have an opportunity to go back and change some of the things that maybe didn't work as well as they should the first time around. But if you do make a change, then by fucking god you better make sure that it's a change for the better, and not just a change for the sake of change.

If it ain't broke, just don't fucking fix it, man. I don't understand why this even requires an explanation.


That's not why Tobias left.


Do you have any fucking clue about what you're talking about, or are you just trying to rustle me?


There might have been occasional missteps, yes, and we all agree that Armageddon was a tremendous clusterfuck, but no matter how much bullshit got piled on top of it, the robust foundation set by Tobias is something that never changed throughout the old continuity.

I generally find that the only people who say "hurr too convoluted" are the ones that never fucking bothered to follow it, but by all means, feel free to bring up any aspect of the OT that you feel is convoluted, and I will try to explain it to the best of my abilities.


>implying that anything we know from Mythologies still holds true at this point
>implying that there was even a "prize" for Scorpion to go after



Like I said before, I'd love nothing more than for all of this to turn out to be Quan Chi's mindfuckery, but I was already proven embarrassingly wrong once, so excuse me for not having much blissful denial left.

You know, I actually wouldn't mind maybe a year from now or what have you, if he gets the chance in a Year 2, Year 3 expand on all this and show what exactly happened during the Mythologies era in this new timeline for Scorpion/Sub-Zero/Quan Chi, ect.

Would make for an interesting read to see what was different, what was the same. I wonder if NRS would allow him to do it?

At the end of the day, I know this grinds peoples gears but I just look at this whole thing like Batman; Time travel aside, I love the Burton era, I love the Nolan era. Just two different takes on my favorite characters. Not a great comparison, but that's just how I view it in a nutshell. The past continuity will always be there for the people who love it, like me and a lot of other people here. But for the time being and the future, I'm very interested and intrigued in watching what they do with the characters from here on out by taking them in new directions, even if that means altering the past a little.

MK Mytholgoies is the deepest MK's lore went, no question, so I'm pretty sure Kittleson wouldn't fuck around with that part of the story too much (I honestly think one or two retcons when it comes to what Scorpion actually did in Mytholgoies before he was killed) especially considering we're entering MK4 territory where Mytholgoies become THE most important piece of lore out of any other MK game at the time. Kittleson knows not to fuck up here, and I honestly think that this preview was intentionally done this way so that these types of discussion would happen. He knows Mytholgoies territory is sacred to MK fans as he is ALREADY doing some form of damage control and QnAs to some people just as confused and worried as you. I'd honestly bet dragon points that the literal next page after the preview is either;

A) Scorpion saying that Quan Chi implanted the fictional scenario of Bi-Han killing his family and clan in order to fuck with and control him and that Scorpion sees the truth and will kill Quan Chi for his actions

or

B) Scorpion believes Bi-Han killed his family and clan and vows revenge, but we get a panel of Quan Chi being a shitlord and confirming that he implanted the fictional scenario in order to control him but Scorpion believes that Sub-Zero and the Lin Kuei are to blame. *the most likely option*

I have faith in Kittleson, seeing as the dude hasn't yet given me a reason to doubt his ability to give MK the story it hasn't received in decades, I know Mytholgoies is a big thing to you and you have every right to be worried, but I believe in Kittleson and I beleive that he won't fuck it up.

I just want to make it clear that I would want nothing better than to be proven wrong about this. If Kittelsen actually knows what he's doing, I'll be fucking ecstatic to eat my words. Because if this guy can actually integrate Mythologies into NT without damaging it, then by god, he can do ANYTHING.


It's not, though.

That's really the issue here. By going back in time and drastically altering the past, the OT is effectively erased from existence, making everything that the characters suffered through essentially meaningless.


I gotta say, I would absolutely love it if they went ahead and actually acknowledged the OT as a parallel universe that still continues to exist alongside the reboot continuity, thereby establishing the MK Multiverse. I think that's a compromise that would please everybody.

But Imagine if they went even further and acknowledged the existence of other alternate universes, such as Legacy.

Imagine the potential for in-universe cross-overs.

...like Sheeva is the Elder God's Champion in another universe?

Welcome to the world of comics? I'm guessing I'm just used to retcons galore in the lore I dive deep into, cause there's so much shit about Batman thats come and gone it doesn't really phase me anymore.

And just to clarify, I meant that timeline and lore will always be there for us to go back to and enjoy, not necessarily that its still canon. For example, I can still go back and read the Expanded Universe novels of Star Wars and enjoy the fuck out of it, even though it's now not canon anymore within' the confines of the overall series. Thats more or less what I think they're attempting to do here; pick little things here and there they want to keep to freshen up and then put the rest in cold storage until they can figure out whether or not they want to re-use it or not. If they could essentially pull of a Multi-Universe though, I'd be all for it.

Multiverse Kombat FTMFW
DO EET.

Like I said just a little bit ago, that first Tweet from Kittelson practically confirms an entire alternate universe for the MK reboot. I'm completely satisfied with that answer.

I agree and disagree with this.

I agree that, in terms of story, everything the individual characters did is over. From MK1-MKA, every characters personal story is null. It still happened however, but for all intents and purposes, OT is done and dusted and I doubt we'll ever see it again. I disagree, however, with this by saying that the OT still exsists in the form of being able to play the old games. I know this isn't that grand of a thing, but they still happened. The OT will also always have an affect in the NT due to OT Raiden telling NT about preventing Armageddon. That happened and it will always happen. This is called the New Timeline for a reason. I left all hangups with the OT at the door when it came to MK9 and I can say that, personally, I'm better of for it because I can happily enjoy MKX and all the changes that come with it. I seriously think people need to separate the OT and the NT into two different things. Expecting some things that happened in the OT to be exactly the same in the NT is pretty foolish and is probably the reason certain people have problems with MK9s and story and will no doubt have with MKX's.

I'm pretty sure one of the alternate universes that the heroes travel to in DC's Countdown features a supervillain version of the Justice League who are opposed by a team of villains led by a bizarro good guy version of the Joker (!).

So fuck yeah, why not?

Sonya said in MK9 that 'Raiden could be having visions of possible futures, not just the future.' Or w/e

A multiverse would please me.

Better than getting backstabbed by Kano (And Kahn. Oy Vey )

Imagine if you will a universe where Kahn kills the idiot version of Raiden in MK3 and Fujin takes over......one can dream.

Or one where Stryker nukes Kahn with a bazooka...the possibilities are endless!!!

Imagine an Edenia that isn't worthless or Raiden trying to conquer Outworld.


So much moisture.

*climax of "The Demise of Barbara and the Return of Joe" by Ennio Morricone plays*

*offers 2 cakes*
This doesn't seem like a job for just one lol

Hmmm...a good point, but not necessarily the case - the bio for Mileena during MK2 was vague, and its revealed that Kahn ordered Shang Tsung to create Mileena to take Kitana's place if she turned on him. There was never any mention or indication of them growing up as twin sisters.

Check the MK wiki...while I think a homeless guy standing on a street corner is more reliable than any wiki, it does at least collect the pre-MK9 timeline info. The original games never specified that they grew up together.

I still think the tease we got of this issue is only half-truth...Scorpion's memory is not correct, and has been manipulated significantly. Sub-Zero is a killer, but he did not take part in the destruction of the Shirai Ryu (hence, again, his shock when Quan Chi showed Scorpion the false images).

I wouldn't be surprised to see a "Deadly Alliance" form in this game between Sub-Zero and Scorpion. It was hinted at in Sub-Zero's non-canon ending in MK9, and as we all know by now, the arcade ladder endings are always foreshadowings or partial truths to upcoming events in the next game.

damn thats a clever way to incorporate the old timeline with mkx, some insight there

It seems like what hardcore fans are having difficulty wrapping their head around is that MK9 is the only thing that's canon.

MK9 is basically MK1. The first Mortal Kombat. The only MK lore is the lore in MK9. Nothing else exists. Literally.

People want the Mythologies lore in tact, when that lore doesn't exist in 2015. People want a retelling of the MK4 era, when that era hasn't happened yet. There's nothing to retell. MKX will me telling the events proceeding Outworld's invasion for the very first time.

We are literally standing on a clean slate.

I never understood why certain people never got over this. I like the guy, but Razor spent HOURS listing faults with MK9's story when compared to the OT when MK9 cancels the entire OT. People should have realised this by now