Not trying to stop ppl. I agree that the OT did certain things better. I never argued that. I was only stating the the NT is the only relevant timeline as we look toward MKX.

may he rest in peace

thing is really at this point it's evolved into a debate as to which timeline is the better story.....and right now personally i can't say i haven't seen the entirety of the new timeline. The old timeline rocked it was good times and i loved it. I will revisit it with fondness, but i'm going to wait and see how the new timeline plays out before i pass judgements.......as for the debate as it stands today....it's all based on opinion and everyone here has a great and valid opinion

Hmmm, multiple Jimmys

we are legion

are being rustled

you win a cookie

Define "entirety".



Personally, whenever I compare the two, I try to make it a point to stick to the same timeframe. Since MK9 covers the events of the first three games, it's only fair to compare it to MK1-3, right?

The fun part is that even if you deliberately ignore everything in MK4 and after, you'll still find that this comparison is really not in MK9's favor.

a cookie makes it worth it, but...don't..don't lump me with him

i guess what i meant was....there isn't going to be anything new from the original timeline so i've seen all of that, not so for the new timeline....and i agree it should..how do i put this....run along the same themes with differences here and there? if that makes sense.....but my point was i don't know how the MKX story plays out completely so i don't wanna say if it's a good or bad direction until i have

MK9: Raiden, after Bi-Han bites it:

"Despite my efforts, my vision has come to pass. An unfortunate end.
He once defended Earthrealm from the Netherrealm armies of Shinnok and Quan Chi."

See that right there? Mythologies still happened. Clean slate my arse.

The MK9 timeline does not completely overwrite the old one. It brings in heavy retcons, but that's all.

i agree clean slate is the wrong term there, it's more like.....yea someone said it earlier, a parallel universe

IMO its an alternate timeline. If it wasn't an alternate timeline things would have been "fixed" in the original timeline and surely NRS would have made an effort to show us that, but other than Raiden's amulet being fixed, they didn't. This (To me) hints that they saved this new timeline from Armageddon, but not the original one, that one is still screwed lol

Okay, now I'm confused. Did Bi-Han kill Hanzo? I thought that was Quan Chi disguised as Sub-Zero with the aid of Shang Tsung?

Even in MK9 Bi-Han claims he's innocent. So who was behind the slaughter of the Shirai Ryu?

I'm so lost.....

Su much salt and tears in this thread from fanboys who couldn't accept reality.

I hope they clear what is going on with Hanzo's backstory.

Well in the old Timeline he killed Hanzo pretty much how this comic depicts it only not in his clans village or in front of his wife. Quan Chi killed all of them in payment for the Lin Kuei's services.

Don't go confusing the stupid live action mini series story with the games.

Though I still don't know what to make of the new timelines story to this event.
If this is actually how it went down but Bi-Han was clueless and protesting his innocence, then...it must have been someone posing as Bi-Han.

Hold on now.

I'll argue that Tanya was the most significant/highlighted cameo of the, what, dozen characters from that era that had cameos and references in MK9. Makes perfect sense considering she only missed out on a DLC slot by a hair. She's there, it's real, no illusions here. Fujin is the second that springs to mind, being mentioned and seen numerous times via endings.

They didn't throw these characters in for the hell of it, or without intended purpose. They knew MK4-MKA's lore and characters richly enhanced the entire MKUniverse. Even Daegon himself. Granted, we didn't know fersure AT THE TIME whether that was just bone being thrown, but the comics have confirmed this much now.

And to answer your question, Tanya is canonically Ed's sister. Bazinga! Almost mentioned this, but forgot while trying to make another point. Thanks for bringing that up. Imho, the NT was and is nothing more than a construct that allows NRS to bulldoze down those walls and corners they had infamously written themselves into. Which is yet another reason so many were still expecting to see a lot of those 3D era characters from the get-go. At least, the ones who aren't directly contributed to the dead-ends of those times. (Taven, Daegon, Blaze. On that note, I'm continuously wondering how much of that lore they'll use considering Daegon has already been mentioned.) Now, like many have passionately stated, once they go and start re-writing the things that should not be tampered with...."thems fightin' words."

Daegon doesn't have to be tied down to the quest, but it'll have to be addressed at some point.


All the 3D character appearances in MK9, just cause:

MK4: Shinnok, Quan Chi, Tanya, Fujin, Reiko
MKDA: Sareena, Bo'Rai Cho, Kenshi, Frost, Li Mei
MKD: Hotaru, Havik, Onaga, Kira (in an earlier build)
MKA: Taven, Daegon

Danke.

Yeah, even well over a dozen. Plenty of users here had compiled that list, I was just too lazy to search for it.

I've even read and heard arguments that Meat was the body in The Church. Can't put much stock into it, but still.

Well now I'm depressed.

see T-Rex, it showed bi-han yelling "nooo it wasn't me"

kittelsen knows what he's doing, he's prolly just setting it up so you think its sub just as scorpion does, so later when he finds the truth out, you find it out with hanzo, so you can feel more of an emoptional connection with the charcter, maybe.

but either way kittelsen wont fuck up the story, i have faith.

@jimmykricket, please learn what 'literally' means. You're not using that word properly, the word you're looking for is 'metaphorically'. I still don't know how to this day people don't know what 'literally' means. It's one of the easiest words to know and utilize.

A guy asked Kittelsen on twitter if there's a retcon. and He just answered "Quan Chi's lies have had a major effect on poor Hanzo, a cut so deep even he doesn't know how far down it goes... #MKX "

So I don't think there's a retcon on this matter.

@Jimmykricket did you forget Tanya is shown at Kahn's koliseum?

Figures. Troll Chi's nothing but a liar and a cheat

Thanks.

I am grateful for this otherwise there would have been pandemonium. I am also thinking based on the intro dialogue between Scorpion and Quan Chi that Scorpion will find out the truth in MKX.