Reasoning why the sex has been toned down in MK11
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posted03/29/2019 03:34 PM (UTC)by
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Reasoning why the sex has been toned down in MK11

And it's a double standard that reflects more of a political choice rather than valid reasoning.

The reasoning would work in larger scale battles like Deathrace but not in hand-to-hand combat.

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Spider804
03/29/2019 03:43 PM (UTC)
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God forbid women shouldn't look like strippers when they're getting ripped to shreds.

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thisiscourage
03/29/2019 03:53 PM (UTC)
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I think the females look more badass than they ever have before.

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03/29/2019 03:54 PM (UTC)Edited 04/20/2019 03:44 PM (UTC)
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Psst! Wanna see boobies? There's a nice little site called Pornhub.

Boobies galore.

Mortal Kombat doesn't have to give you your daily fap.

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03/29/2019 04:18 PM (UTC)
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That's actually a very valid reasoning. You won't be going into battle in a bathing suit.

So long as the costumes look great, why does it matter whether or not boobs are popping out? I mean come on, is it really that necessary?

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03/29/2019 04:27 PM (UTC)
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In most fighting games the characters whether male or female are gonna be "in shape" for the most part, what people would consider to be conventionally physically attractive. You find the same thing in action movies. So it's not really surprising that some people in the fanbase are gonna find certain characters to be attractive.

And if you're being realistic about it a fighting outfit isn't gonna be all loose fitting and baggy, either for women OR men. On the other hand, it's also not very practical for women to be in an outfit with their boobs having only the most precarious support and all ready to spill out; ditto for male characters sporting some sort of banana hammock.

I guess my point is: it's fair for you to expect to find some characters to be physically appealing but it's kind of silly for you to expect characters to be showing a certain amount of skin. If this is that important to you then get your girlfriend/wife to do some really skimpy Kitana/Mileena/Sonya, etc. cosplay. It's weird to expect a video game to cater to you getting your rocks off.

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03/29/2019 05:53 PM (UTC)Edited 03/29/2019 06:40 PM (UTC)
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The outfits in MKX and MK11 have actually made characters MORE appealing to me. The bathing suits were ridiculous.

Mileena looked amazing in MKX. Combined with her story arc, she's gone from completely uninteresting to one of my favourites.
Same with Jade in MK11: Her new outfits are some of the best in the game, yet were some of the worst in previous games.
Minus the hats and the hair; Skarlet is looking great too.
Sonya looks like she's actually in the military now, rather than a porn parody of a military yoga instructor.

This whole T&A thing is ridiculous... if that's what you're after; it's one of the biggest selling points of Dead or Alive. Or like others have mentioned specific websites dedicated to such content.

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03/29/2019 06:34 PM (UTC)
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The reasoning is completely stupid as we know it would be. We know that movement is restricted in high heels and tight leather but the characters are wearing that. No one would wear either to a fight. The only reason they have done it is not to court controversy since they had been doing for so long in the previous games before MKX.

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03/29/2019 06:37 PM (UTC)Edited 04/04/2019 04:32 PM (UTC)
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03/29/2019 06:46 PM (UTC)
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If people want logical reasoning:

You need to use two hands on a controller to play a fighting game.

You only need one hand to use a mouse in order to browse pornhub.

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KenshiMaster16
03/29/2019 06:56 PM (UTC)
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There was nothing oversexed about anything in Mortal Kombat's 1-4, Sheeva aside. The ninja girls were basically wearing gymnastic styled clothing which is athletic, not sexual. You can make a more classic style approach to costumes without making them look like whores.

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03/29/2019 08:48 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka

Psst! Wanna see boobies? There's a nice little site called Pornhub.

Boobies galore.

Mortal Kombat doesn't have to give you your daily fap.

^This. Haha!

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Locke
03/29/2019 09:35 PM (UTC)
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I don't mean to disrespect anyone, but I find the fact that people care about sex in videogames to be extremely baffling.

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03/29/2019 09:45 PM (UTC)
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Locke

I don't mean to disrespect anyone, but I find the fact that people care about sex in videogames to be extremely baffling.

Especially in a fighting game who's biggest claim to fame is its over-the-top gory fatalities.

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03/29/2019 09:49 PM (UTC)
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J_in_CA
03/29/2019 11:58 PM (UTC)
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It would be embarrassing to have this level of graphic fidelity and have them look like they did in MK9, that was a 14 year old kids fantasy. Funny but I don't remember hearing a lot of complaints in MKX and there weren't many sexy costumes in that game either. I'm not one for political correctness or anything like that but I do find overly sexualized characters in games a bit lame. I'm gay so I have no dog in this fight lol, I mean I don't want Jax or Johnny running around in a thong.

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03/29/2019 11:58 PM (UTC)
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Locke

I don't mean to disrespect anyone, but I find the fact that people care about sex in videogames to be extremely baffling.

Well it depends on the IP. But when it comes to MK, the series has always had revealing clothes for their female characters but it was never a big deal or overdone until MK9 rolled around and every female had circus tits, a few straps of clothing, and giant hooker boots- it was a travesty and a joke but those hideous designs obviously provided inspiration for a lot of MK porn on the net that many of these mouth-breathers enjoyed masturbating too- hence all the complaining even now.

Sonya actually looking like a Military general? BAH. Skarlet actually looking like an assassin? BOO.

As far as double standard- I fail to see it. Yes, Kano's shirtless and oh so yummy(Yes, I'm objectifying him- It's our turn for once) but it FITS with his character and regardless of his level of attractiveness- a character like Kano would be shirtless. So there goes that argument, I guess?

TLDR; MK is not required to show you thirsty people boobies.

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03/30/2019 12:05 AM (UTC)
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Boobies galore.

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Spirit_Wolf
03/30/2019 12:14 AM (UTC)
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Wait... What?! When was there sex in Mortal Kombat? Thought it was a fighting game. Did I miss something?
Kidding aside, I know what some are pointing at. In some regards, there is a double standard in the opposite way, that the female characters are way more covered up to their male opponents. Not that I want the female characters to be near naked like in MK9. but in MK11 the only thing which sometimes isn't covered up are the upper arms, while the male opponents still have "skins" with only pants and maybe shoes.
We still haven't seen all the skins available, so maybe there will be more MKX kind of clothing. I think they were good ones that had a nice balance in covering up and showing some.
And given that you don't fight in a bathing suit. Neither do you fight in cloacks and mantles.
That said, I still like most of the current skins on offer in MK11.

So I do understand where "complaints" are coming from. It just too bad that the ones being so verbal about it, are mostly verbal about it because they seem to want their sexual gratification of it.
I always wonder, and this is what I think about everything in life/society, why it mostly seems that the "solution" to something, is doing the opposite instead of seeking for a good middleground.

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steffuz
03/30/2019 12:19 AM (UTC)
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pushing that they are trying to make female characters look more mature when you got kano peeing after doing a brutality ? like really ? wtf .

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03/30/2019 12:23 AM (UTC)
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pushing that they are trying to make female characters look more mature when you got kano peeing after doing a brutality ? like really ? wtf .

Kano is a vile, nasty, disgusting perverted sociopath with a thirst for greed and horror. That fits with the character.

Try again.

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03/30/2019 12:34 AM (UTC)Edited 03/30/2019 12:36 AM (UTC)
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Its sad to see that the PC/SJW culture has fooled NRS to what the overall MK fans want. These people that think that there is something wrong with female sex appeal in games aren't even real fans of the series more so are disconnected with reality. Most of of these people are just passerby's , who want to conform to what they think won't offend anyone.

There is nothing wrong with sex appeal. Us guys love it and SURPRISE so do the females that do play games and in real life. Real guys and girls GAMERS don't play games for body representation, but play characters who can relate and get attached to and or role play. Males tend to want to be the cool James Bond, Bruce Lee, Arnold Schwarzenegger , Westley Snipes martial arts or that military special forces badass.

Females like those uber sexy females with slim voluptuous sexy bodies and yes females love to show off their bodies , and get the man of their choosing. In gaming, neither males or females wants to be that 300 pound person. Neither do males want to play as a sticky looking guy who beats up muscle special forces guy. It is all about fantasy.

Casuals and non MK fans even more so don't even understand the complains of some fans like myself had with MK9. My problem with MK9's females were that they were out of character. ALL female outfits looked the same. Seriously go to MKonline game's MK9 section and look at all the female clothing. MK1 to Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance had the perfect balance between outfits fitting a characters personality with some sex appeal.

The John Tobias era was great with characters looking their parts. The males looked buffed , masculine and intimidating the females were feminine , had sexy appeal and intimidating. In all, all the character outfits fit their character's personalty and background. In MK9, they looked ridiculous. In wasn't just the HORRIBLE treatment of characters in MK9 storymode, but characters like Kitana looked like a joke and not like a ninja assassin. This was the problem, not the sex appeal. Kitana could and can be sexy, but she needs to like a harden ninja assassin FIRST then have some sex appeal.

As what others have said in any many threads across the internet above this same subject about MK losing sex appeal , how hippocratical of NRS to have the females covered up for realism, but have many males shirtless. NRS, says it is ok have tons of blood and murder people , but NRS and SJW says showing some decent amount of sex appeal on females is bad and unethical to do so? Man, what a joke. NRS is getting way to corporate.

The irony of what Ed Boon says in this video back in the 90s: See time around 0:53

[flash=425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxL6Zg8QDbg&t=55s[/flash] Note: around 0:53

I quote Ed Boon: " No one wants to pay for reality." True words when it comes to video games and entertainment.

For those of your don't know that Mortal Kombat was birthed in the 1990s. I was born in 1984, so lived and experienced the 90s, which was great by the way. Our generation was the counter culture in pretty much everything. This means, I experienced the slightly older generation in their 20 and 30s break NEW ground in every type of media including Ed Boon and John Tobias.

They did this by pushing the norms out of the way and did bold stuff that didn't conform to the times. This was how Mortal Kombat was birthed of bold ideas that offended people. These people saying that " Well now you have nothing to jack off too" are in the same boat of what some people said about violence in video games cause murder. Anyone with a brain , knows this is FALSE. The majority of guys in the world like sexy women. There is nothing wrong with that.

NRS, Steve Beran , and Brendan George should be ashamed of themselves. I cite this news article: MK News.

Conformity is the name of the game now . This is all about conformity and making no one gets offended. Guess what, people will get offended no matter what. The people who do get offended aren't even interested in the game , film, or TV show anyways. Why should a creative team cater to a group of people who aren't interested to what your selling?

Most guys , including myself don't care if female get turned on by some male model or some guys from the Magic Mike films, HLN movies with the "ideal" guy. I am willing to bet most females of any age group don't care about these female super models on TV, films and ads. At the end, we all know the opposite genders are just having fun with their "ideal" body types of the opposite sex. There is NOTHING wrong with that , despite with the PC and SJW have to say.

I must say the female designs of Sonya, Cassie, Jacqui are easily the most bland, uninspiring, boring and dull outfits in the entire series history, right next to many of the females in MKX more so Sonya. Deception's new characters's outfits were bad too. Sonya main outfit in MKX SUCKED massively. Jacqui's outfits in MKX were just bad. Not to mention, Sonya main color should be GREEN not blue. To be honest Skarlet's red and black outfit looks good. Also, Kitana in MK11's game menus looks to have a good design comparable to her MK2 look and ninja assassin.

In closing, so all those SJW saying we are upset because we are upset because we don't have bikinis / sexy clad women. Nope , if you were a fan of the series at all, you should know that this is about certain aspect of the series getting taken away by a small group people who don't really care about the series. As guys we should make no apology that gaming IS A MALE DOMINATED gamer industry.

I'm willing to bet most female gamers don't care. So what if females are somewhat eye candy? It is ALL in good fun. Just like all the female given in media with "perfect" guys are all in good fun. Thus there is NOTHING WRONG, with video games showing stylized breasts, asses, and skin on female characters. Did you think males or myself cared about the penis in GTA IV's DLC or muscle men in gaming? Nope. Again it is all in good fun.

This video makes a perfect point about fighting games and SJWs.

[flash=425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVl4W3LP4tI[/flash]

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03/30/2019 12:42 AM (UTC)
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FROST4584

Its sad to see that the PC/SJW culture has fooled NRS to what the overall MK fans want. These people that think that there is something wrong with female sex appeal in games aren't even real fans of the series more so are disconnected with reality. Most of of these people are just passerby's , who want to conform to what they think won't offend anyone.

There is nothing wrong with sex appeal. Us guys love it and SURPRISE so do the females that do play games and in real life. Real guys and girls GAMERS don't play games for body representation, but play characters who can relate and get attached to and or role play. Males tend to want to be the cool James Bond, Bruce Lee, Arnold Schwarzenegger , Westley Snipes martial arts or that military special forces badass.

Females like those uber sexy females with slim voluptuous sexy bodies and yes females love to show off their bodies , and get the man of their choosing. In gaming, neither males or females wants to be that 300 pound person. Neither do males want to play as a sticky looking guy who beats up muscle special forces guy. It is all about fantasy.

Casuals and non MK fans even more so don't even understand the complains of some fans like myself had with MK9. My problem with MK9's females were that they were out of character. ALL female outfits looked the same. Seriously go to MKonline game's MK9 section and look at all the female clothing. MK1 to Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance had the perfect balance between outfits fitting a characters personality with some sex appeal.

The John Tobias era was great with characters looking their parts. The males looked buffed , masculine and intimidating the females were feminine , had sexy appeal and intimidating. In all, all the character outfits fit their character's personalty and background. In MK9, they looked ridiculous. In wasn't just the HORRIBLE treatment of characters in MK9 storymode, but characters like Kitana looked like a joke and not like a ninja assassin. This was the problem, not the sex appeal. Kitana could and can be sexy, but she needs to like a harden ninja assassin FIRST then have some sex appeal.

As what others have said in any many threads across the internet above this same subject about MK losing sex appeal , how hippocratical of NRS to have the females covered up for realism, but have many males shirtless. NRS, says it is ok have tons of blood and murder people , but NRS and SJW says showing some decent amount of sex appeal on females is bad and unethical to do so? Man, what a joke. NRS is getting way to corporate.

The irony of what Ed Boon says in this video back in the 90s: See time around 0:53

[flash=425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxL6Zg8QDbg&t=55s[/flash] Note: around 0:53

I quote Ed Boon: " No one wants to pay for reality." True words when it comes to video games and entertainment.

For those of your don't know that Mortal Kombat was birthed in the 1990s. I was born in 1984, so lived and experienced the 90s, which was great by the way. Our generation was the counter culture in pretty much everything. This means, I experienced the slightly older generation in their 20 and 30s break NEW ground in every type of media including Ed Boon and John Tobias.

They did this by pushing the norms out of the way and did bold stuff that didn't conform to the times. This was how Mortal Kombat was birthed of bold ideas that offended people. These people saying that " Well now you have nothing to jack off too" are in the same boat of what some people said about violence in video games cause murder. Anyone with a brain , knows this is FALSE. The majority of guys in the world like sexy women. There is nothing wrong with that.

NRS, Steve Beran , and Brendan George should be ashamed of themselves. I cite this news article: MK News.

Conformity is the name of the game now . This is all about conformity and making no one gets offended. Guess what, people will get offended no matter what. The people who do get offended aren't even interested in the game , film, or TV show anyways. Why should a creative team cater to a group of people who aren't interested to what your selling?

Most guys , including myself don't care if female get turned on by some male model or some guys from the Magic Mike films, HLN movies with the "ideal" guy. I am willing to bet most females of any age group don't care about these female super models on TV, films and ads. At the end, we all know the opposite genders are just having fun with their "ideal" body types of the opposite sex. There is NOTHING wrong with that , despite with the PC and SJW have to say.

I must say the female designs of Sonya, Cassie, Jacqui are easily the most bland, uninspiring, boring and dull outfits in the entire series history, right next to many of the females in MKX more so Sonya. Deception's new characters's outfits were bad too. Sonya main outfit in MKX SUCKED massively. Jacqui's outfits in MKX were just bad. Not to mention, Sonya main color should be GREEN not blue. To be honest Skarlet's red and black outfit looks good. Also, Kitana in MK11's game menus looks to have a good design comparable to her MK2 look and ninja assassin.

In closing, so all those SJW saying we are upset because we are upset because we don't have bikinis / sexy clad women. Nope , if you were a fan of the series at all, you should know that this is about certain aspect of the series getting taken away by a small group people who don't really care about the series. As guys we should make no apology that gaming IS A MALE DOMINATED gamer industry.

I'm willing to bet most female gamers don't care. So what if females are somewhat eye candy? It is ALL in good fun. Just like all the female given in media with "perfect" guys are all in good fun. Thus there is NOTHING WRONG, with video games showing stylized breasts, asses, and skin on female characters. Did you think males or myself cared about the penis in GTA IV's DLC or muscle men in gaming? Nope. Again it is all in good fun.

This video makes a perfect point about fighting games and SJWs.

[flash=425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVl4W3LP4tI[/flash]

This is all nothing but one big rambling generalization.

"SJWs blah, blah, blah blah"

How about you read and actually pay attention to those who disagree with you with VALID and LOGICAL reasonings as to why they disagree with your stance instead of painting everyone as "SJWs".

I don't have the time or patience to hold your hand and walk you through this- I am not Special Needs instructor or a miracle worker and at the end of the day I'll just be another SJW.

Funny, I've been accused of being Alt-Right AND a SJW in the same day. Oh internet. XD

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Spider804
03/30/2019 01:08 AM (UTC)
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I'm neither. I'm neutral.

If the ladies show skin? Cool. They don't? No biggie. I play MK to kick ass, not drool over pixels.

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03/30/2019 01:23 AM (UTC)
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I play MK to kick ass, not drool over pixels.

YOU DAMN SJW!!! *Throws boobies at your head*.

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