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07/07/2011 12:56 AM (UTC)
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i might lose my mind if any of the ninjas get any MORE klassic skins. I personally would love to see klassics for Sonya, or JC, or Raiden. I would say Nightwolf, but really, his Mk3 i so close to what he looks like now, so it really wouldnt be that different. But no more ninja classics. I will take most any alt over klassics for characters that already have klassics. I could bear an unmasked subbie, or cyber smoke alt though, if i must.
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Characters mastered: Kitana, Mileena, Reptile, Ermac, Jade, Cyrax, Liu Kang, Kabal, Smoke, Nightwolf, Kano, Jax, Sektor, Sheeva, Baraka, Scorpion, Stryker, Sindel, Sonya Blade, Cyber Sub Zero.

07/07/2011 01:09 AM (UTC)
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It's not the same to give away for free individual costumes designed and made from scratch that actually take time and effort to create compared to making just one model, changing it's colors and giving it for free. If they ever make classics for Sonya, Johnny, Unmasked Sub Zero and whoever else you want, they will charge for them.
I think it's pretty safe to say Blueberry and Lime are going to be MK2 Kitana and Jade so if you're expecting something else, you'll be disappointed.
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zerosebaz
07/07/2011 01:18 AM (UTC)
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I can't believe how many people want more pallete swapped costumes
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Keep dunking your Kenshi breadsticks into your Skarlet sauce, people! The main course isn't coming for a while, and you never know when it's going to be disappointing.

07/07/2011 02:44 AM (UTC)
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I'm hoping for Stryker and Sonya.
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Kitana_MK9
07/07/2011 02:46 AM (UTC)
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I hope this means mk2 Kitana

hopefully next is Strawberry and Banana

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NoobSaibot5
07/07/2011 02:54 AM (UTC)
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I wonder if they'll use the same model from the MK3 Retro skins for the girls if they do make an MK2 retro? And also, I know Mileena already has 4 outfits in total available, but why exclude her from the deal?

I'm guessing it could easily be some other characters. Blueberry and lime are way too obvious as Kitana and Jade and you know how much NRS love their Red Herrings.
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mkwhopper
07/07/2011 02:56 AM (UTC)
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Cyber Smoke and Unmasked Sub, or Klassic Rain(UMK3)
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Nix Dolores
07/07/2011 03:11 AM (UTC)
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Guys, they won't release klassic costumes for DLC characters. Not everyone buys them, but you will always get 2 free costumes.
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JSwartz0181
07/07/2011 03:30 AM (UTC)
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Some111one Wrote:
Even though it seems kinda evident to me that these are gonna be MK2 Kitana & Jade Klassik skins, I still think they shouldn't release them.
In my opinion the MK3 skins they've got are better than the MK2 ones, why give the females more klassik skins? I mean they could give Sub-Zero his MK3 unmasked & scarred klassik skin, that would be actually interesting, or Quan Chi his MK4 costume. They should go with something more original and klassik IMO... wink

If they'd give Kitana or Jade or any other female/male a good klassik costume I'd be all for it, like for example MK3 Sonya costume or w/e... But please, no more female/male palette swap skins.

Funny, I'm the complete opposite. I think the MK2 outfits are far better than the MK3 ones. Hate just about everything about their MK3 look, especially the lacing up the front and their hair being up as it is.

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fuck kitana and jade

Yes please! ;)
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Some111one
07/07/2011 04:29 AM (UTC)
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JSwartz0181 Wrote:
Some111one Wrote:
Even though it seems kinda evident to me that these are gonna be MK2 Kitana & Jade Klassik skins, I still think they shouldn't release them.
In my opinion the MK3 skins they've got are better than the MK2 ones, why give the females more klassik skins? I mean they could give Sub-Zero his MK3 unmasked & scarred klassik skin, that would be actually interesting, or Quan Chi his MK4 costume. They should go with something more original and klassik IMO... wink

If they'd give Kitana or Jade or any other female/male a good klassik costume I'd be all for it, like for example MK3 Sonya costume or w/e... But please, no more female/male palette swap skins.

Funny, I'm the complete opposite. I think the MK2 outfits are far better than the MK3 ones. Hate just about everything about their MK3 look, especially the lacing up the front and their hair being up as it is.


Well I'd still take an MK3 unmasked & scarred Sub-Zero costume over the klassik palette swaps (MK1/MK2/MK3) anyday... Even if they'd charge for it.tongue
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Gillbob316
07/07/2011 04:51 AM (UTC)
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I've explained at great length in other threads why I don't think the free costumes will be anything but pallette swaps. I'm tired of re-explaining it. As it stands, I feel there are only three real possibilities here...

MK2 Kitana and Jade (Most likely)
MK2 Sub-Zero and Reptile (Most dissapointing)
MK3 Sub-Zero and Reptile (Somewhere between the two)

I feel like anyone expecting something other than a ninja is setting themself up for a fall. It won't be. Not on a freebie. Not ever. They're not going to do twice as much work as they need to, constructing two new models they'll never even make a dime on. Doing ninjas not only covers the two free characters, but leaves room for profit from all the additional characters they can get out of that costume in future DLC, recouping the time it took to make those models.

Why do you think the first klassic skins pack was labeled "#1" people?

Because more are coming. And they'll include all the variant colors of these costumes that weren't released as freebies, so they can get some return on the time they invested to make them.

They can't do that with one off characters. Once they're out, they're out.

No one-off model will ever be released for free.

The only thing I find odd is that they'd release Kitana and Jade as the free MK2 skins... and not Kitana and Mileena. Maybe they think Mileena has more sales appeal than Jade so they want to hold her for the paid pack... I dunno.
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07/07/2011 06:06 AM (UTC)
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It's possible MK2 Mileena will be with the unknown fighter, paired with a "klassic" CSZ (seeing he's the only cyborg left without a klassic alternate). But I agree that it's odd Kitana and Mileena aren't being paired together if it is in fact MK2 Kitana and Jade.
Gillbob316 Wrote:
I've explained at great length in other threads why I don't think the free costumes will be anything but pallette swaps. I'm tired of re-explaining it. As it stands, I feel there are only three real possibilities here...

MK2 Kitana and Jade (Most likely)
MK2 Sub-Zero and Reptile (Most dissapointing)
MK3 Sub-Zero and Reptile (Somewhere between the two)

I feel like anyone expecting something other than a ninja is setting themself up for a fall. It won't be. Not on a freebie. Not ever. They're not going to do twice as much work as they need to, constructing two new models they'll never even make a dime on. Doing ninjas not only covers the two free characters, but leaves room for profit from all the additional characters they can get out of that costume in future DLC, recouping the time it took to make those models.

Why do you think the first klassic skins pack was labeled "#1" people?

Because more are coming. And they'll include all the variant colors of these costumes that weren't released as freebies, so they can get some return on the time they invested to make them.

They can't do that with one off characters. Once they're out, they're out.

No one-off model will ever be released for free.

The only thing I find odd is that they'd release Kitana and Jade as the free MK2 skins... and not Kitana and Mileena. Maybe they think Mileena has more sales appeal than Jade so they want to hold her for the paid pack... I dunno.


Which causes me to wonder the price of one MK2 female and MAYBE Skarlet in MK2 garb.

The MK2 Ninjas I can understand as well as the MK3 ninjas but the cyborgs and the girls have 2 pallete swaps left at best. Would they lower the price or lump both girls and cyborgs together to keep the price the same as before with the MK1/MK3 guys and girls?

Just something that's on my mind.
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Zmoke
07/07/2011 02:05 PM (UTC)
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The fourth final set should be called Blood, Sweat and Tears.

Blood: Skarlet Alt.
Sweat: Rain Alt.
Tears: Kenshi Alt.
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07/07/2011 03:51 PM (UTC)
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Gillbob316 Wrote:
I've explained at great length in other threads why I don't think the free costumes will be anything but pallette swaps. I'm tired of re-explaining it. As it stands, I feel there are only three real possibilities here...

MK2 Kitana and Jade (Most likely)
MK2 Sub-Zero and Reptile (Most dissapointing)
MK3 Sub-Zero and Reptile (Somewhere between the two)

I feel like anyone expecting something other than a ninja is setting themself up for a fall. It won't be. Not on a freebie. Not ever. They're not going to do twice as much work as they need to, constructing two new models they'll never even make a dime on. Doing ninjas not only covers the two free characters, but leaves room for profit from all the additional characters they can get out of that costume in future DLC, recouping the time it took to make those models.

Why do you think the first klassic skins pack was labeled "#1" people?

Because more are coming. And they'll include all the variant colors of these costumes that weren't released as freebies, so they can get some return on the time they invested to make them.

They can't do that with one off characters. Once they're out, they're out.

No one-off model will ever be released for free.

The only thing I find odd is that they'd release Kitana and Jade as the free MK2 skins... and not Kitana and Mileena. Maybe they think Mileena has more sales appeal than Jade so they want to hold her for the paid pack... I dunno.
I was just gonna post something like this. There's no way NRS will waste their time making an alt for a character that they can't milk to death for profits. You have to know they're going to release MK2 costumes for every ninja since we know they've made them. I also fully expect to see MK1 outfits for Noob and Smoke. Based on the leaks, it's likely the females will be getting MK2 costumes too. I bet Skarlet will be included to get classic alts as well, since all they have to do is pallet swap it. I'd love to see Cage get his MK2 leather jacket, but realistically, I know it won't happen. The best we can possibly hope for is that they release some of the costumes that they showed in the art book, because (I think) those are already made.

To sum it up,
easy pallet swaps = 100% probability of being released
difficult one-off costumes for specific characters = very low % chance of being released.

Finally, I hope it's Kitana and Jade and not Sub and Reptile. I think we have enough male retros. The girls need some (more) love too.
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07/07/2011 05:55 PM (UTC)
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I'm hoping to god that it's MK3 Sub-Zero (Unmasked) and maybe Reptile, or Jade, or...

Wjo else is green?
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07/07/2011 05:56 PM (UTC)
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Why would Kitana and Jade get something and Mileena not get it too?
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07/07/2011 06:06 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Why would Kitana and Jade get something and Mileena not get it too?


Because Mileena already has four costumes, while Kitana and Jade only have three.
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07/08/2011 03:47 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Why would Kitana and Jade get something and Mileena not get it too?


As I've already said, any remaining pallette swaps not given away as freebies will likely just be sold as "Klassic Costume Pack #2" down the road. (And maybe #3, depending on how far they want to stretch them)

They labeled the first pack as #1. That implies they expect a #2 eventually.

Assuming the 3rd freebies are Jade and Kitana, MK2 versions of Mileena, Reptile, Scorpion, Sub-Zero are inevitable as paid DLC, and they might stretch those costumes even further...

They could do MK2 Ermac, though I'm not sure they would. Possibly Cyber Smoke and Sub-Zero. Maybe Skarlet and Rain, though they seem less likely. And maybe the UMK3 male ninjas, as is speculated to be the 4th freebie costume.

Mileena could be the one they're holding back for a reason as simple as NRS thinking she'd be the most profitable of the 3 females. (That would certainly follow based on all the marketing we've seen for the game. Heavy Mileena, not so much with the Kitana.)

In any event... as I've said before... my money is on MK2 Jade and Kitana as the 3rd pair, and 2 UMK3 Males as the 4th pair. Any remaining unreleased pallette swaps will be paid DLC.
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07/08/2011 04:31 AM (UTC)
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It's most likely gonna be Kitana and Jade, based on how willing they have been to release palette swaps thus far. For them to give us anyone else would seem t be a stretch for NRS at this point. It might even be Subs and Reptile MK2 outfits; Scorpion is too popular to give away for free, same with Mileena.
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07/08/2011 04:36 AM (UTC)
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Kitana and Jade.
End of story wink
And Gillbob, I couldn't agree more re: people thinking we will see Klassic Sonya or Jax. People just don't understand the amount of work (ie- MONEY) that goes into creating a digital costume that doesn't interpenetrate or freak out in other ways. Pallete swaps they be.
However, I disagree re: Mileena.
I think she and Skarlet will be the last freebies.
I'm certain they won't release more than two (free) non-ninja characters.
If they *do* make Klassic skins for Jax, Kano, Raiden, etc.,
expect to pay for them like the first "Retro Pack".
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mkgrandchamp
07/08/2011 04:39 AM (UTC)
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im gonna go with subzero and jade. just to be different. smile
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queve
07/08/2011 05:03 AM (UTC)
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Like many others have already said:

KeenanBoots Wrote:
Some111one Wrote:
Espio872 Wrote:
Blueberry and Lime you say?







Hey, a boy can dreamsmile


I hope your dream comes true! grin

As do I!


I pray/dream/hope for this. I really really do.

And, I'll just copy+paste my feelings in regards to this subject (which I have expressed countless of times):

NRS Team really needs to pay attention to this topic.

The majority of the fans are simply annoyed and tired of the constant overuse of the "ninjas" for all these kind of extra and special material.

The majority has spoken! We all rather see retro or new costumes for Sonya, Shang Stung, Kano, Quan Chi, Johnny, etc then even more extra/special stuff dedicated only to the annoying ninjas....again.

Whatever happened to to diversity and fairness, NRS? Did you not promise to treat your diverse group of fans and followers? Or have you decided ro only settled to please and favor the "ninja fans"?

Since the beginning they've talked and promoted DLC content as something BIG for EVERYONE...but, so far, they've only been catering to the "ninja" fans.

It's extremely disappointing. It's lame.


If this is the way they were going to go, they should have made that clear from the very beginning instead of giving out a false idea: They made it seem like we would get diversity, like we would actually get special content for some of the other over 25 characters that are NOT wearing a "ninja" suit.

And their comments referred to much more than just "retro" costumes...they also talked about classic/retro Fatalities (where's Sonya's Kiss of Death? Shang's SoulS teal? etc?) and even new alternate DLC costumes for the cast....so far, they've only given these to the ninjas.

It's time to move on!


This is just one of many manymany threads that have discussed this issue and where the majority of the fans agree on the same thing.

A huge majority wants, expects, of hopes to see retro costumes or the classic looks for characters like Sonya, Shang Tsung, Kano, etc...its not like it's just two or three lonely fanboys. It's actually a big part of the community.

The fact that we still keep getting extra content that only caters to the "ninja characters" and their fans is disappointing and annoying as hell.

I can't imagine NRS being so freaking lazy and unfair by revealing the rest of the costumes to be yet another freaking lame group of pallet swap female ninjas and male ninjas to fit their MK2 and MKU looks.

They already got the costumes!!!! PLEASE, MOVE ON to the other over 20 characters that have even more interesting looks and that would be far more interesting to see!!!!

All that being said, I agree with the majority of the fans that the following costumes would be EPIC (and certainly far more interesting and fun than more boring overused and overexposed and over treated ninjas):

1) Sonya: MK3 or MK4 or MKSM costume.

2) Quan Chi: MK4 or MKM look.

3) Kano: MKDA or MK1 or MK3 look (bald).

4) Shang Tsung: MKDA (alternate or main) or MK1/MKSM look (old man + robe).

These characters would greatly benefit from fun retro/classic looks, and more importantly, there are some very good reasons why most fans want to see them: Because they are fun awesome looks.

Please, NRS, take serious note of this topic.

Gillbob316 Wrote:
It won't be any unique/individual characters. They're not going to make 4 brand new models. Not for a freebie. In this or any other game.

They're trying to get as much mileage as the can out of these skins while doing as little actual work as possible. Mark my words here and now, it WILL be more ninjas. It will NOT be 4 unique characters......


Gillbob316 Wrote:
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NRS will NOT release 4 new models for one-off characters absolutely free of charge. It just WON'T happen. I could see them doing klassic costumes for the individual characters as paid DLC, but not as freebies. Ever. It's too much addditional work for no additional profit.....
A ninja, on the other hand, allows them to make ONE model, that covers not only BOTH of the two free characters... but which can also later be resold as yet MORE characters, thus helping to return a profit on the time they invested to MAKE that model.......

A ninja, on the other hand, allows them to make ONE model, that covers not only BOTH of the two free characters... but which can also later be resold as yet MORE characters, thus helping to return a profit on the time they invested to MAKE that model.......

With say, Sonya, that's not true. Once the model is out there for that ONE character... it's usefulness is worn out. Which is why no one-off character will ever be a freebie.

It's business. Cut & Dry. Plain & Simple. Making 1 model to cover 3, 4 or as many as 7 characters, is a better idea than making 1 model to cover 1 character.


I understand what you are saying....but, I just hope NRS, our beloved MK Team, is so much better than that.

I really do.
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07/08/2011 10:48 AM (UTC)
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The main trouble with NRS doing retros for anyone who is unmasked is surely the face would have to be changed to match the era? Because anything less isn't really a retro.
Insider2000 Wrote:
I'm hoping for Stryker and Sonya.

I bet you're right. Good guess!

And for people that think anyone with a retro will get ANOTHER retro alt is fucking ridiculous. You people do not think, you don't think rationally.

Noob Smoke Cyrax Sektor Jade Kitana Mileena Sub Reptile Scorpion and Ermac

They all have retros, they WILL NOT get a second one like MK3 Scorpion or MK2 Reptile. Diversity is what NRS is going to be doing. Plus it started off with MK1 costumes, moved to MK2, so i'll put a million dollar bet MK3 ones are next and MK4 one is after for Quan Chi and someone else.
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