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07/11/2011 12:41 AM (UTC)
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^ Thank-you drpvfx finally someone took the time to explain how this system works. smile
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ZenOboe
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07/11/2011 12:45 AM (UTC)
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drpvfx is a smart guy. People expect way more than NRS will ever deliver.
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Jace_of_Spades
07/11/2011 12:46 AM (UTC)
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drpvfx Wrote:
ErmacYou Wrote:
i didnt see where you said why you dont think those 2 will get free dlc skins
so point me in the right direction to see your explanation.


Basically that the ends in no way justify the means.

This has been debated to death already, but in essence:

build and test MK3 Sonya, and you get... MK3 Sonya.

build and test MKII Kitana, get *three* other characters for "free," from a production standpoint.

build and test UMK3 Scorpion, get *six* other characters for free.

Now, be honest with yourself- if you were running a business (the goal of which is to make money), which is going to look more attractive?
Spending $1000 to make MK3 Sonya, thus making only Sonya fans happy (and leaving three other vacant spots to fill), or spending $1000 to make MKII Kitana and spending not one more dime on developing these free DLC skins?

I've said it before, and I'll repeat myself again:
don't expect to see any one-off retros unless they end up charging us for them. It's *absolutely* a huge waste of money for them to develop something as time-consuming as, say, MK3 Sonya, MK3 Jax, MK1 Kano, and MK1 Johnny vs. MKII Kitana, Mileena, Jade, and Skarlet as a free giveaway.

Do I think all those characters deserve those outfits? Yes, I do.
Do I think WB feels the same way I do? No... I don't. sad


This is probably the situation. I don't dig it because I find the MK2 females to be pretty bland visually. But, considering all of drpvfx's points, and the fact that the MK2 retros were listed in the demo leak and have probably already been produced, I am pretty sure thats what we are getting. Fine. Its free, and I love free stuff, happy to take it. But boy would it be a nice surprise to see MK3 subby and sonya!
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07/11/2011 01:15 AM (UTC)
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Thanks, guys.

Please understand that I don't like the situation either (although I *do* love the MKII Ladies, so that's a definite bonus).

I really want to play as retro *everybody*.
I just don't think that will be happening without having to shell out some cash for them.
I mean, hell... Capcom's gone *apeshit* releasing costumes for their games.
Who's to say NRS won't follow suit if it's profitable*.
Designing Retros for Everyone certainly wouldn't be any harder than a full round of SSFIV costumes.

I think any of us can help the chances of this happening by buying all the DLC there is. They've already implied they are looking past this first "season" of characters now. Some costumes could be a nice "snack" while they prepare the next round of DLC characters wink





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ErmacYou
07/11/2011 02:41 AM (UTC)
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drpvfx Wrote:
Thanks, guys.

Please understand that I don't like the situation either (although I *do* love the MKII Ladies, so that's a definite bonus).

I really want to play as retro *everybody*.
I just don't think that will be happening without having to shell out some cash for them.
I mean, hell... Capcom's gone *apeshit* releasing costumes for their games.
Who's to say NRS won't follow suit if it's profitable*.
Designing Retros for Everyone certainly wouldn't be any harder than a full round of SSFIV costumes.

I think any of us can help the chances of this happening by buying all the DLC there is. They've already implied they are looking past this first "season" of characters now. Some costumes could be a nice "snack" while they prepare the next round of DLC characters





*-key term

i understand what your saying appreciate that you didnt speak down to me which happens alot here. BUT.....
this game being pure fan service and knowing this game has made tons of money maybe they will overlook the dollar signs for once and give these costumes for free.
dlc is pretty popular for mk so far.why not give the unexpected?
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07/11/2011 04:51 PM (UTC)
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Espio872 Wrote:
Blueberry and Lime you say?







Hey, a boy can dreamsmile



I Think the exact same way, it would be just awesome. grin
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07/11/2011 04:53 PM (UTC)
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Overlook the dollar signs.

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha!

See-

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Sorry, I can'-

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Send help.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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mkwhopper
07/11/2011 04:55 PM (UTC)
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Kitana's and Sonya's Kiss of Death fatalities grin
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Thrawn
07/11/2011 05:25 PM (UTC)
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My favorite costumes in the game so far are MK1 Reptile and MK2 Smoke. I love the retro costumes.

I want more.

I hope Lime is MK3 or MK1 Sonya. I still don't like her primary costume in mk9. I only use her alternate (which is friggin' awesome).

I hope Blueberry is MK2 Kitana. That way I can use MK2 for Kitana, and MKD alt for Mileena, and UMK3 for Jade.

I'm also fine with an unmasked Sub-Zero for extra variety.



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07/11/2011 08:50 PM (UTC)
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So, seems that I'm not alone when it comes to Sonya's alt being in better use than the main. :P (So goddamn sexy.)

I really wish Lime is at least Sonya's MK3 Costume. That would be in an EVEN better use.

Sub-Zero and Kitana already have retro costumes, so I'm going to guess blueberry is Stryker. The only problem is that Strykers main is basically already his MK3 outfit, only with a flipped cap and shorter hair.

(Please, don't let it be some crap like MK3 Cyber Sub-Zero or MK3 Cyber Reptile. I'm begging.)
MK2 Sub-Zero and Repltile

MK3 Sub-Zero and Reptile

Mk2 Kitana and Jade

Some many guesses
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TsaiMeLemoni
07/11/2011 09:51 PM (UTC)
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Even though some of the other retro ninja costumes are cool, like the UMK3 ones, I can't imagine they'd give us even more ninja alternates.

My first non-ninja thoughts when I think of Blueberry and Lime are Sonya and Johnny Cage.



I seriously doubt either one will receive a retro alternate, but it's nice to dream!
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fledermavs
07/11/2011 10:07 PM (UTC)
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I second that! We already have klassic skins for Kitana and Jade. Let's see some for those who do not already have them. As much as I would love to fight as Cyber Sub-Zero as he appears in his ending, I seriously doubt that will be done. I would love to see Lime as Cyber Reptile. Blueberry? Sub-Zero in Cryomancer Armor. That's the way to go. grin
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mkwhopper
07/11/2011 10:11 PM (UTC)
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Blueberry-Kitana
Lime-Sonya

Maybe it's there Kiss of Death fatalitiesglasses
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07/11/2011 10:17 PM (UTC)
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I hope it's not Fatalities. I have literally no interest in playing either Sonya or Kitana again in this game so giving them Fatalities would be disappointing.

On the other hand, I love the MKII female ninja costume, so if they put those in, I WILL have a reason to play as one of those two again.
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NickScryer
07/11/2011 10:19 PM (UTC)
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MKII Kitana & Jade is my guess

Mainly because there was mention of them in the leak.
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twistedjdude96
07/11/2011 10:29 PM (UTC)
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I tthink it is classic rain since blueberries r purple, and also mk2 reptile?
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07/11/2011 10:33 PM (UTC)
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Monkeybot Wrote:
Would people be happier with Cyber-Sub if he got the unmasked Sub-Zero skin as his alt?
Sub-Zero already has a classic alt and CSZ needs one.
Some of the moves may look odd but they did it for the 2nd skins of Cyrax and Sektor.
I'd love to see a Cyber alt for Smake and an Unmasked Alt for Cyber Sub-Zero.


oh my god yes! cyber sub is better than normal sub (gameplay wise) and I love that costume, would definitley give me a reason to use cyber subby
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McNasty
07/12/2011 12:43 AM (UTC)
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why does everyone keep adding retros to fighters that already have them?

do we really need every other new item to be linked to something that already happened?

we already have klassics for:
Sub Zero
Scorpion
Reptile
Ermac
Kitana
Mileena
Jade
Sektor
Cyrax
Smoke
Noob

Think about people that don't have other classics....

Blueberry - Quan Chi or Raiden

Lime - Sonya


If it's going to be anything for anyone we already have it'd either be unmasked Sub Zero (which i don't want to see yet) and a Shaolin Monk inspired Reptile.
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07/12/2011 12:46 AM (UTC)
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MK2 Kitana and Jade



DUH
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07/12/2011 12:47 AM (UTC)
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McNasty Wrote:
why does everyone keep adding retros to fighters that already have them?


Because we are being realistic.

MK2 Ninjetes were mentioned in the Demo Leak. We WILL see them.

They have the Male MK2 Ninjas. Scorpion, Sub-Zero,, and Reptile WILL get one. They were in MK2. Rain and Ermac were not.

Don't think I'm sounding rude, but I'm stating the obvious.
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07/12/2011 12:56 AM (UTC)
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Pessimistically:
Lime = Cyber Reptile
Blueberry = Ruutuu costume for Noob or Director costume for Cage

Optimistically
Lime = MK1 Sonya
Blueberry = MK3 Sub-Zero

Predicably
Lime = MK2 Jade
Blueberry = MK2 Kitana
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smokeman14
07/12/2011 12:58 AM (UTC)
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This little humble thread I made is still going strong? Holy shit.
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Tazer_Gunshot
07/12/2011 01:13 AM (UTC)
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I would be like wow if blueberry was MK3 Sub-Zero! Lime.....well, I don't know. I'm gonna say Quan Chi but, I doubt it.

Kitana, Jade and Mileena already have their MKT Klassic Kostumes. They don't need anymore.
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MortalMushroom
07/12/2011 01:31 AM (UTC)
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Well we already have a Jade and a Kitana and a Sub-Zero. So who else wears green and blue?

Sonya- Doubt it because she's not a palette swap. The only logical way I can picture this is if they modeled it but never used it for the final version. Not likely.

Hornbuckle- Extremely unlikely, but anything's possible I guess. They would have the model down (just a palette swap of Liu Kang) but no moves will be available unless they actually work on it.

-Mk2 Kitana/Jade- I guess there's a chance, but it would be disappointing because they already have purchaseable DLC costumes (which look better than the MK2 ones imo)

-Unmasked Sub-Zero- Not out of the question. They changed the MK1 models slightly to make the MK2 modeled Noob and Smoke so I guess it wouldn't be too hard to model a head instead of a mask and do a few more tweaks to the costume.

-MK3 styled Cyber Sub-Zero- Even though he was never in MK3, it seems like a good possibility. Ermac wasn't technically in MK1, but thet still have his MK1 costume.

-Someone else/ he's just screwing with us- this is a good possibility, I think.
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