even if your a diehard fan you shouldnt take this shit so seriously!
even with trying to make a point,y'all sound like battered wives
complaing about getting your ass kicked but still keep going back.
regardless if the story sucks or not(why are you complaining about small bits of the story thats been out?)you will still buy,rent or borrow the game.if the direction of the story really pisses you off and affects your everyday life,then you really are a loser in life and needs to step away from games for long time.diehard or not you need to stop crying over some that you barely have any details on.unappreciative faggots

Thank you for so quickly stepping up to provide evidence for my argument.

So you weren't entertained in some way when:

-Sonya decided to kill Jax

-Captain Marvel screamed "The Rage...THE RAAAAAGE!"

-Catwoman did an Eartha Kitt routine

-Liu Kang started ranting against Shang Tsung

-Slade Wilson and Sub-Zero confronted each other



It's just too many moments. It's the essence of comic book writing itself, taking stupid shit and making you invest into it.

if you didn't like that stuff on some level, you're just plain heartless and cold...

don't generalize the fan base like that. The story is not as good as everyone makes it out to be. It's interesting, and fun to follow, but not "intelligent." Yes, I fully understand the story, I understand the character development (or lack thereof for many characters,) the relationships amongst everyone and whatnot. But really, a plot like is not as amazing as people make it out to be.

There are no themes (besides good guy vs bad guy) there is little originality amongst the villains (almost all of them have the same personality,) and the protagonist is pretty generic. Its fun to follow, and there are some interesting plot points and developing characters(Sub-Zero developing into the leader he is, Raiden turning into a tyrant ect.) but besides that there is little that can be considered "intelligent." Sonya is the same to this day as she was in the first game. Kahn, Tsung, Quan Chi and Shinnok all still desire power, Kano is still a thug, Reptile is still pathetic, ect.

Do I like the story? Yeah its fun. Is it better than most fighting stories? Yeah, its better than Tekken and SF, no doubt. Is it good for a video game? Beats the hell out of Resident Evil, Metroid and Zelda. Is it intelligent? eh...Is it better than video games with almost universal acclaim, like MGS, Final Fantasy, and Fire Emblem? ehh.....

It's not the story that attracts me. It's the themes of Mortal Kombat, not the Mortal Kombat plot. The dark atmosphere, the fantastic fighters with superhuman powers. The fast paced gameplay. Not the story. Not "omg blood and guts!"

So wait...if we hate the story, but play the game anyway, we're idiots. But if we don't buy the game because of the story, we're losers. And either way, we're faggotts.

Just doesn't pay to be a fan with an attention span.


Great gameplay and gory fatalities doesn't stop the story from blowing goat.



No, no, no, no, and no.

It made me embarrased to be a Mortal Kombat fan and a DC comics fan.



Well, I am....but that didn't stop MK vs. DC from being an insult to my intelligence.

I'm not particularly impressed by the stories in either of those three series and I would in fact say yes, MK's story at least up to Deception was better.

I agree MK vs. DC sucked it hard. First MK game I returned. Thank God I rented Armageddon. I would have broken that game then took a big shit on it.

I disagree that the storyline of the new game will suck. Shit gets fixed right in this game. Idk what Raiden is gonna do to change shit but it will be very interesting. They said it will be the longest storyline of any fighting game ever. So it will be fun to see what happens.

I agree with you and XiahouDun84. From a storyline point of view, this game is going to suck, because of 18 years of storylines will be pointless. Also combine the fact that we are going to revisit old storylines that have been beaten to death(Sub-Zero vs Scop rivals again!!?!?!) . The whole Raiden sending himself a message to himself after all this time seems outragous considering the events of MK3 series, and Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance. Time travel has no business in Mortal Kombat games.

I dislike the fact the MK team is going back for no good reason, to change important points of MK history. I had to get over that the storyline aspect,
I will try my hardest just to forget that the storyline will be changed, and hope it will not damage to MK storyline ( I know it will).

The gameplay looks fun, but I will never get over that half the game will be a rehash of the old games. I'm getting the game, but this plot didn't have to be. Nothing good will come from it, but add even more confusion.

To me it makes sense. In all of the other games the good guys win in the end. This time Raiden is about to die so he sends a message to the MK1 Raiden to try and fix it. Secondly, we don't know all of the details yet so it could make sense.

its alright if you don't like those stories, but they are much deeper than MK's storyline

The only real logical reason to why Raiden has this special power would be because he beat Blaze, and therefore enhanced his powers. It wouldn't make any fucking sense for this 'going back to the future' thing to happen if it didn't play out like this, because then we're all gonna be left wondering, 'well why the fuck didn't Raiden do that in the first place?'

MK's storyline I think will get fixed and continue to evolve from this game.This is a great chance for the team to fix some holes in the storyline, and to continue on from this.

I mean what I really hate, is when people start fucking bashing it at such an early stage. I mean, we only know a couple of details of the storyline and people are already hating on it, and speculating it's 'dead' already. Ed said this story mode will be the longest story mode every created in an MK game, so that is a very positive fact to look at.

I mean, just fucking give it HOPE .. the MKTeam is tryingto fix and evolve the storyline. We should be supporting them.

I'm a fan. I love MK. To argue over the story like it never happened (the future that's going to be changed) is funny to me.

First of all, Mortal Kombat does not have a deep story. It has some layers yes, but a really deep story, eh.

Secondly, this game isn't realistic so saying that time travel has no business is nonsensical. Just because Raiden decided to use it now doesn't mean that he could never make it. Then if you try to justify saying well why didn't he do it before everything...well then dumbass, you wouldn't have a game now would you? Alot of you act like you guys made the game and the story, yes you may not like it, but there are alot of you who act like just because you've been a fan you know everything that SHOULD happen. All this knowledge of the history of the game makes you believe that your understanding can portray what the future should entail. It does not.

Third on my list. STFU.

Fourth. Some people need to get off the high horse (kinda like what I said in point two).

I dare you to tell me how ANY Final Fantasy except 7 and maybe 6 are deeper than Mortal Kombat. I will eat you and your argument the hell alive.
And I just wanna go on record as stating "deep" is a terrible word to use for this argument, by the way, because it's so god damned vague it's nearly meaningless, and whatever things people THINK it means usually aren't something that automatically makes a story good.

alright, then what's your argument that MK is better than any Final Fantasy story? I mean, I don't particularly like most of the FF stories, I'd just like to see your reasons on why MK attracts the intelligent

In order to systematically dissect two different franchises, one of which is 13 unconnected games long, the other of which is 8 connected games long (counting Mythologies, but not MKvsDCU), I would need to write for hours and hours straight, creating a Great Wall of China made out of text.

And no one would even read the whole goddamn thing, so I'd be wasting my time.

Can you present a COUNTERargument of what makes all those Final Fantasy games so goddamn great without giant walls of text? Or are you also deliberately avoiding doing so by asking me for my proof first when the burden SHOULD be on the guy who STARTED down this road, you?
And as a corollary, have you ever read all 13 pages of the Storyline Analysis thread in the Overall MK board? Because whatever my answer to your question WOULD be would just be trying to sum up those 13 pages so maybe you should read them instead.

Barring X, FF hasn't had a decent story in years.

In my opinion with the whole Raiden thing, I believe they will somehow make it to where Lui Kang and Shujinko confront, being that Shujinko will be the "new" champion of Mortal Kombat. If this happens, I'm going to be so disappointed in them. Lui Kang is one of the BEST in Mortal Kombat, which I'm sure all of you know this. I've a bad feeling when Boon said things could change, characters that were once robots could change and be someone(thing) else. I mean, really what next, are we gonna see Mecha-Kahn? I just hope they fix it to work out in a way that we like, it will be interesting to see how this turns out.

honestly do u hav to be intelligent to get final fantasy? final fantasy summed up in 4 words is pretty much big sword and big monsters

Final Fantasy has the time to tell a story. A 60 hour RPG has enough time to develop depth amongst the characters. Tidus, Red, Squall, Barret, they all evolve through the story and learn some moral.

Mortal Kombat doesn't have the luxury of 60 hours of cut scenes to show their characters. I've skimmed through the analysis thread and read some of XD's posts. How can people make these elaborate analysis of each character when you only get a bio, and an ending in a game or maybe something in a comic book or Konquest? This is why fighters generally have crap plots. They don't have the time to tell a story.

MK has done a great job telling a good story with the time they have, but its not outstanding and doesn't hold a candle to something like Final Fantasy X or MGS.

Strangely, MK and Final Fantasy have one huge thing in common: the glory of each series hinges on their characters. The conflict is secondary in both games, with its main purpose being to embellish what-should-be rich individual biographies with one central character as the nucleus.

But reviewing which series is better depends on what category you're approaching. If you're going by which series functions better as a narrative, yeah, FF is better. But saying so is unfair and stupid; Mortal Kombat isn't attempting a narrative. It's like saying FF is the better sports series because of blitz Ball. Stupid fucking blitz ball...

If you're going by characters, you'd have to go on a game-by-game basis, and MK crushes about half the series, with FF7 being a member of the crushed set. Why? Because FF7 had a piss-poor villain and failed to develop it's characters properly outside of the Avalanche group (even they needed work). Vincent and Yuffie aren't even present in the fucking ending! In terms of character development, MK is superior, and FF6 runs circles around FF7.

What? You all want to know what I thought the FF games individually? Well, that would be off-topic, but fuck yeah! Anything for you guys! Actually, that would take forever. but in a nutshell:

You just demonstrated exactly my point. Even with 60 hours to work with, none of the FF games except for one or two of them have ever managed to tell a story that doesn't suck or make me care about their goddamn characters.

While with nothing but bios and endings, Mortal Kombat has crafted a far more fascinating and detailed narrative with many more characters I either relate to, can see the growth and development of, or plain and simple think are cool.

You asked how people could make elaborate analysis of MK characters? Because firstly, those little bios and Konquest modes (and the two official comics Tobias wrote, and tons of interviews with Tobias or Vogel, and concept pieces in the Krypts, and all the media that's out of continuity but nevertheless gives us more insight into and interpretations of who these characters are, how they would act, and what motivates them, and who knows what else I'm forgetting...there's a whole wealth of information you are either writing off the value of or not aware of) that you're deriding contain more details in their few short paragraphs than you ever thought about, and second, unlike most Final Fantasies, they're actually GOOD and WORTH analyzing.

I highly doubt that you can relate to any of the MK characters?

Anyone can relate to anything through the use of their imagination. Despite the fact that these are fictional characters with supernatural powers and backgrounds, they still think and feel emotions that real people think and feel. If you can imagine what it would be like to have your wife and son murdered, congratulations, you just related to Scorpion. If you've ever been cocky or a smartass, congrats, you just related to Johnny Cage. See what I'm saying now?

Now I don't suppose you can think of any way to be CONSTRUCTIVE when an intelligent conversation is going on around you? Y'know...just for a change of pace?

Detailed? What details? We never hear the characters talk to each other. We get an ending given by a narrator. Up until Deception we got bios that did not shed any light on how a character acted.

Again I'm not really into Final Fantasy, but I know it can tell some story. It has 60 hours to tell it. MK doesn't. It's a fighter that doesn't have that luxury. The story is not one of the big things to focus on. If you don't give a crap about Final Fantasy's story, then okay. It's personal taste, I get it. I don't like most of them either. But to say that MK's story is intellectual, fascinating and detailed is....I dunno, odd. It's a fun story to follow, but not a work of art. Sonya still hates the Black Dragon, Liu Kang still is the Luke Skywalker of the series, Baraka is still a savage, Shang Tsung is still scheming, and Reptile is still someone to feel sorry for.

Who knows, maybe a game like this can change all that. Maybe it can give all the characters an interesting personality. We are after all supposed to get an epic retelling of MK-MK3.

All I'm hearing is "I'm lazy, I can't get into the heads of characters unless they talk to each other."