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Monkeybot
07/17/2011 02:12 AM (UTC)
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Cyber-Smoke is/was a great character. What Boon said about he and a few other characters makes me think that if he isnt the 4th character to be DLC he will be soon. I'm just throwing out ideas that make sense to me on how he could come back.
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07/17/2011 02:16 AM (UTC)
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FatalityLives Wrote:
I've always wondered...
If Smoke can make people fall to pieces by simply passing through them then why the hell didn't he do it to Sindel?


No one had yelled "FINISH HER" then, so he couldn't perform a Fatality...
D'UH!!! ;P
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07/17/2011 02:17 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
FatalityLives Wrote:
I've always wondered...
If Smoke can make people fall to pieces by simply passing through them then why the hell didn't he do it to Sindel?


No one had yelled "FINISH HER" then, so he couldn't perform a Fatality...
D'UH!!! ;P

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07/17/2011 02:20 AM (UTC)
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FatalityLives Wrote:
I've always wondered...
If Smoke can make people fall to pieces by simply passing through them then why the hell didn't he do it to Sindel?


The logical thinking behind finishing moves is that they work because the person has time to focus / execute their strike perfectly. Like a precision golf / pool / chess / bowling shot, you can't just whip them out when you have to worry about defense or your opponents reaction. You need a moment to collect yourself and prepare, which I think is what all the pre-kill "posing" thats been going on since DA is all about.

Otherwise Nightwolf would just strike his opponents down with light from heaven before the battle even got started.
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07/17/2011 02:21 AM (UTC)
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Monkeybot Wrote:
Cyber-Smoke is/was a great character. What Boon said about he and a few other characters makes me think that if he isnt the 4th character to be DLC he will be soon. I'm just throwing out ideas that make sense to me on how he could come back.


I doubt he's the fourth, but with the success of the released fighters, soon Rain and the last character, he will be coming along eventually...
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07/17/2011 02:22 AM (UTC)
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FatalityLives Wrote:
I've always wondered...
If Smoke can make people fall to pieces by simply passing through them then why the hell didn't he do it to Sindel?

I know right?! He should've done that in the fucking first place! I haven't thought of that
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07/17/2011 02:23 AM (UTC)
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daryui Wrote:
maximus12 Wrote:
Insider2000 Wrote:
Let Smoke be something different.


Demon cyborg. I'm sorry but cyborg is smoke better. Smoke may be smoke but he has a way better story IMO as a cyborg.


You are my friend.


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But I'm still pretty confused about what the OP is saying is this what he wants to happen? Either way cyborg smoke threads FTW!!
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07/17/2011 02:25 AM (UTC)
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Fenix Wrote:
FatalityLives Wrote:
I've always wondered...
If Smoke can make people fall to pieces by simply passing through them then why the hell didn't he do it to Sindel?


The logical thinking behind finishing moves is that they work because the person has time to focus / execute their strike perfectly. Like a precision golf / pool / chess / bowling shot, you can't just whip them out when you have to worry about defense or your opponents reaction. You need a moment to collect yourself and prepare, which I think is what all the pre-kill "posing" thats been going on since DA is all about.

Otherwise Nightwolf would just strike his opponents down with light from heaven before the battle even got started.

Fair point actually buuuuuuut Nightwolf technically did the light trick whilst in a fight with no time to concentrate, unless thats different then point retracted.
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07/17/2011 02:27 AM (UTC)
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maximus12 Wrote:
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grin

But I'm still pretty confused about what the OP is saying is this what he wants to happen? Either way cyborg smoke threads FTW!!


He's trying to explain an idea for CyberSmoke's DLC story.. that is my understanding of it..

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Monkeybot
07/17/2011 02:31 AM (UTC)
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Yes, this is just an idea of what could happen. I really don't care as long as he's back and soon.
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07/17/2011 02:31 AM (UTC)
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FatalityLives Wrote:
Fenix Wrote:
FatalityLives Wrote:
I've always wondered...
If Smoke can make people fall to pieces by simply passing through them then why the hell didn't he do it to Sindel?


The logical thinking behind finishing moves is that they work because the person has time to focus / execute their strike perfectly. Like a precision golf / pool / chess / bowling shot, you can't just whip them out when you have to worry about defense or your opponents reaction. You need a moment to collect yourself and prepare, which I think is what all the pre-kill "posing" thats been going on since DA is all about.

Otherwise Nightwolf would just strike his opponents down with light from heaven before the battle even got started.

Fair point actually buuuuuuut Nightwolf technically did the light trick whilst in a fight with no time to concentrate, unless thats different then point retracted.


Nightwolf was chanting while he was summoning the beam of light and techniqually Sindel was simply holding him with her hair and preparing ot steal is soul, not attacking him, that's my thoughts on it.
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07/17/2011 02:33 AM (UTC)
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True true, well I'm glad that was cleared up then, I really do have to revisit story mode, I'm forgetting some vital info ^^.
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07/17/2011 02:35 AM (UTC)
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Cyber-Smoke > Human Smoke! Cyborg Smoke as a dlc character, hands down. I'll even settle for a skin, along with his own kickass special's/x-ray and fatalities.
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07/17/2011 02:38 AM (UTC)
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Tazer_Gunshot Wrote:
Cyber-Smoke > Human Smoke! Cyborg Smoke as a dlc character, hands down. I'll even settle for a skin, along with his own kickass special's/x-ray and fatalities.

So he might as well be his own character?
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07/17/2011 02:58 AM (UTC)
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If Cyber-Sub gets his own move list, x-ray and fatalities there's no reason for Cyber-Smoke not to get ones. He already has moves in other game that while maybe copies of other peoples moves they have been and can be made even more his own.
The Trident harpoon is a copy of Scorpions spear move but is already changed enough to fit his cyborg body with it being on a tow cable.
His Smokeycut is a move taken from Sector but making it work by having him drop into a cloud of smoke that moves acrost the ground under his opponent. He then reforms fist first, rising up from the smoke cloud and sending the foe flying into the air.
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07/17/2011 03:04 AM (UTC)
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FatalityLives Wrote:
Tazer_Gunshot Wrote:
Cyber-Smoke > Human Smoke! Cyborg Smoke as a dlc character, hands down. I'll even settle for a skin, along with his own kickass special's/x-ray and fatalities.

So he might as well be his own character?


Done Deal!
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Jaded-Raven
07/17/2011 03:08 AM (UTC)
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I would rather they made Cyber Smoke a non-canon character, like with Classic Sub-Zero in UMK3. A playable character, but out of the main storyline. Then we can continue to have the awesome, re-invented Human Smoke and still enjoy the cybernetic goodness of his alternate form.
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Monkeybot
07/17/2011 03:18 AM (UTC)
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I'd be ok with that as long as he's playable in the new games and complete. I doubt that Cyber Sub-Zero will stay a cyborg in the new games though because he's dead and most people seem to hate him. Plus as of now there is no human Sub-Zero and he's to much a classic character to stay out of the new games.
People are more accepting and used to Smoke being a cyborg so him becoming a cyborg again wouldn't suprise me.
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mkwhopper
07/17/2011 03:30 AM (UTC)
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If Cyber-Smoke had his own specials, X-Ray and Fatalities, then i'd buy him
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TheCypher
07/17/2011 04:12 AM (UTC)
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Well as much as I like Cyber Smoke now that he's dead they really have a good opportunity to reintroduce Smoke's Demon (my personal fav) form from Deception.

The story could go that having his soul sent to the Nether Realm is what awakens his dormant Enenra abilities and this allows him to break free from Quan Chi's control. From there Smoke can launch his own efforts to try to free the others and sabotage Shinnok's invasion from within the Nether Realm or try and warn Earthrealm.

That's more or less a rough idea I had.
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Monkeybot
07/17/2011 04:18 AM (UTC)
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I'm really not familiar with that version of smoke. I think if we get any new Smoke it'll be Cyber.
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07/17/2011 04:21 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I would rather they made Cyber Smoke a non-canon character, like with Classic Sub-Zero in UMK3. A playable character, but out of the main storyline. Then we can continue to have the awesome, re-invented Human Smoke and still enjoy the cybernetic goodness of his alternate form.


He's already non-canon...

But he shouldn't be.
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07/17/2011 04:26 AM (UTC)
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daryui Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I would rather they made Cyber Smoke a non-canon character, like with Classic Sub-Zero in UMK3. A playable character, but out of the main storyline. Then we can continue to have the awesome, re-invented Human Smoke and still enjoy the cybernetic goodness of his alternate form.


He's already non-canon...

But he shouldn't be.


That I disagree with. I like the new Smoke ALOT better than any cyborg version of him. So I hope he stays that way.
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Monkeybot
07/17/2011 04:31 AM (UTC)
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New or old verson I'll be really suprised if we don't get Cyber Smoke. It's really not a matter of if but of when. Wether or not he's canon or not is a diffterent story. As long as he's well made and competitive I'll be happy.
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07/17/2011 04:31 AM (UTC)
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I respect your opinion, and you to drag this out any further... smile
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