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Gameplay wise I think Sonya is one of the most complete characters.
Fast pokes, safe strings, air dive that starts combos, safe launcher special, air throw, military cancel for mixups, projectile, arc kick with great angle, stun, hyper armor X-Ray.
I'm surprised I haven't seen more Sonyas in tourneys.
In regards to her costumes, I like her default, her alternate not so much.
One good fatality, the other one is crap.
Oh and also:
Fast pokes, safe strings, air dive that starts combos, safe launcher special, air throw, military cancel for mixups, projectile, arc kick with great angle, stun, hyper armor X-Ray.
I'm surprised I haven't seen more Sonyas in tourneys.
In regards to her costumes, I like her default, her alternate not so much.
One good fatality, the other one is crap.
Oh and also:
MK Khronology: 58.49% complete...I've said this before and I'll say it again (and again and again and again...) till the next game delivers and does her justice:
SONYA'S
FUCKING-AMAZING
BICYCLE KICKS!!!!!
(UPWARDS and DOWNWARDS)
1) They are iconic.
2) They have been a trademark move of hers since MK3.
3) They were absolutely glorious and more distinctive in MKvsDC (up and down).
4) They were heavily-nodded in this game (Babality + X-Ray).
5) They were created for MK9...they should have never been removed/replaced in the first place. I don't care how awesome her Arc Kick is. No move should have replaced those kicks. Specially after MKvsDC established them even more as a unique move of her own.
One of my biggest MK disappointments....ever.
And don't you dare get me started on her Kiss of Death or you will not hear the end of it. Never.
Same as her Bicycle Kicks. What a shame.
FUCKING-AMAZING
BICYCLE KICKS!!!!!
(UPWARDS and DOWNWARDS)
1) They are iconic.
2) They have been a trademark move of hers since MK3.
3) They were absolutely glorious and more distinctive in MKvsDC (up and down).
4) They were heavily-nodded in this game (Babality + X-Ray).
5) They were created for MK9...they should have never been removed/replaced in the first place. I don't care how awesome her Arc Kick is. No move should have replaced those kicks. Specially after MKvsDC established them even more as a unique move of her own.
One of my biggest MK disappointments....ever.
And don't you dare get me started on her Kiss of Death or you will not hear the end of it. Never.
Same as her Bicycle Kicks. What a shame.
Here we go again:
This!
Yea...! Hold on, did that actually happen in MKSM? I only remember her badass (out of camera) scene where she kicks Baraka's butt before being slammed (silly) against a wall. And when trapped/rescued, she was weak, but, certainly not acting silly. Was she?
They will hopefully tackle this issue in the next game. Maybe they have bigger things for Kano in the sequel. That being said, it will hopefully end with a reference to their MK3 Rooftop battle. It better. And Sonya has to be the winner.
PS: I love Kano.
If that ever did happen, like those horrible thong concept art designs for her in the MKDA Krypt, I would never accept it as Sonya.
Sad thing is...I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it did happen...knowing NRS and their dirty record of stupid mistakes.
PS: I love you guys! Just voicing out my frustration at some of your completely unforgivable (that make absolutely no-sense) mistakes.
That is glorious! The only other attempt I've seen as this is this picture, and, as cool as it is, I think I like yours better. Much more faithful, obviously:
I know. I have a problem.
OMG!...its so funny you say this, because, I think I can safely say that my fascination with awesome blondes started thanks to Sonya. It's actually very cool to see that I'm not the only one who was affected by her glorious and badass presence.
Since Sonya, I've immediately felt attracted and admire tough chicks, and, well, its just so much better if they happen to be blonde.
Also, gorgeous Red hairs...but, I have Ariel, from The Little Mermaid, to blame for that one.
PS: Forget Kira. Awesome costume design, love the hair, but, that was about it. If she ever returns, a serious and major revamp is a must. Besides her costume and a bit of her origins, well, she's just another BDC clone.
All of those three things.
Also, I would have much rather seen this glorious Fatality with the big M-RATED effect it deserves:
Just imagine the spine sticking out of Kano's neck PLUS a cool twisted cinematic effect to Sonya's twist. Helicopter-like would have been kick ass.
Seriously, so many creative ways to make something generic look special and unique. WHY can't they try just a little bit harder?....yeah, that being said, I do not underestimate the MK team or undervalue their work. Some of their stuff though, is highly (and rightfully) questionable in the eyes of many fans.
It's not like they haven't done (much) better before, so...
That move from her Military Stance is probably my favorite to execute! I love how awesome and stylish her kick moves look, but, this one is just so tough and so badass that it's impossible not to love it:
1) She slams you down with all the force of her blonde hair.
2) She punches you like an enraged King Kong after a Broadway show.
3) And then she kicks you in the nuts like the bitch that you are sending you to the other side of the screen.
So sweet. So very Sonya.
On the Kano thing, again, I agree. Hopefully this means they are saving this finale for the sequel.
This!
I absolutely love that they finally took the little game-hints to show something more absolute just like the comics' and the movies' did.
The Sonya + Johnny relationship has been long overdue and highly demanded for good reasons. It was great in MK9 (though not long or definite enough), but, it was a great nod to the first film and the comics. Hopefully the next game will be more serious about this subject.
I personally can't wait.
Darkmage41 is BACK!
Yay!
Hope to see you post more often. We just need, TomTaz, Keith and Leo involved in this ASAP.
And he is here!
And I agree with him. Garlador, please consider Tom's request. MK4 costume edit would be glorious!
I remember Jaded-Raven did a pretty fantastic job giving her a shirt + MK4's cap to her primary. Where is that picture?
*goes to seach*
I kind of wish there were more Kano moments.
You know, I get that that story has come to its end and all of that jazz, however, this game being what it is, it should have been a predominant subject at least during the MK1 or MK3 finale. Her battle with Kano was cool, but, their encounters were not as OMG as they should have been.
Hopefully next game will allow Sonya to settle her score.
Sonya's ending is one of my very least favorite ones, art-wise.
Only one simple and small picture of her riding a motorcycle?....crap. I hoped and expected for some epic art like most characters got in their endings or Vignettes. It was a real disappointment to just see that one shot of her and than one that shows her from behind.
The invasion looks epic, so does her father's spirit, but, this was Sonya's ending, and she barely got any art. Bleh.
As for the ending itself, I'm intrigued by it and I can't wait to see what they are planning to do.
This has a lot of potential:
1) Is that spirit really her father? If so, what does he really want? If not, who is he really and where did it come from and with what evil purpose?
2) Sonya abandoning the SF/OIA to embark on a new role pretty is pretty much an answer to every fan who has been clamoring that Sonya takes a new path for a change. This twist has potential.
That being said, I hope she stays long enough to actually create the OIA. I want to see them in the game. She can take a leave of absence after that in order to move to a new twist. This sub-plot is quite significant in the universe of MK.
And yes, Sonya+Johnny = FTW!
My favorite Sonya costume ever.
MKvsDC being the second. Very close second.
Then her MK9 primary (a shirt would have made this one my #2).
LMAO!
Really? I can understand that feeling if you think of old Johnny Cage.
MKA + MK9 Johnny Cage is certainly no pushover or joke.
He is funny and comedic, thats true, but, there is a clear balance that makes him stand out as a brave significant hero. A warrior.
And I'm not just saying that because he is my second favorite, I'm saying it because he did really change during MKA.
It's an interesting suggestion, but, at the end of the day, I agree with almost everything Garlador said regarding this subject.
Besides, I too find more interesting the:
A) Brother
B) Partner
C) Fiance
D) Father
options than the "rape" one. I have to agree with Garlador. Also:
LMAO!!! Absolutely true.
However, I think that Kano is not that far away from being this twisted. He does come off as a perv and he is certainly and evil coward. Yeah, suits the "rapist" profile quite well, imo.
This is good.
Also, the movies have been of some influence to the games. Many things from the films have made it to the game in either subtle or plain obvious ways (from character designs to even character origins and stories).
Quoted because its absolutely necessary for NRS to read how much fans want them back.
And her Kiss.
YES!!!
PS: Her Kiss stun is very disappointing though. Why the hell hasn't it been buffed yet?
Well, he did get a lot of her friends killed and he personally "used her". The way Sonya said that was kind of cryptic and dark. Who knows?
Also, him being responsible for the death of her close partner (who could have been her brother or even fiance) has not been reconfirmed by NRS, ever. Something tells me they simply don't bother to touch on that because they feel like its something obvious. Shame.
Just like the wonderful origins and backstory of Kitana + Mileena, it was all pretty "obvious" despite having no solid confirmations by NRS (points at Legacy as a great example)...and then MK9 happened.
But I see your point.
Hopefully you are correct!
It's really great to see all the support these two have received in this game. Makes me a happy fan.
Yes.
Like her Bicycle Kicks.
Like her Kiss of Death Fatality.
And a fucking shirt under her vest...
...oh, yes...those too!
I'm afraid they might do that.
I don't care for seeing Sonya fighting in a swimsuit, on a thong, or without any pants in any shape or form.
That's not Sonya.
Well, I think it's safe to say that the Leg Grab is back to stay, along side the Energy Rings and the hopefully the Kiss.
I also expect the return of her kicks considering how hugely demanded they've been and how strongly they were referenced in this game.
Her second Fatality suits someone like Kira or Stryker better. She should have been at least more acrobatic and fantastic about it. I hate it not because it sucks, but, because it sucks for someone like Sonya (who is already missing significant and more impressive trademarks).
Jerrod Wrote:
The damsel-in-distress idea be damned, she went down fighting, and the goal wasn't to save her in that game, it was to save the world. She stood in Kahn's arena, defiant, not sitting there weeping like a little girl..
The damsel-in-distress idea be damned, she went down fighting, and the goal wasn't to save her in that game, it was to save the world. She stood in Kahn's arena, defiant, not sitting there weeping like a little girl..
This!
Jerrod Wrote:
If you were raised on Shaolin Monks though, then everything I'm saying's going over your head.
If you were raised on Shaolin Monks though, then everything I'm saying's going over your head.
Yea...! Hold on, did that actually happen in MKSM? I only remember her badass (out of camera) scene where she kicks Baraka's butt before being slammed (silly) against a wall. And when trapped/rescued, she was weak, but, certainly not acting silly. Was she?
Jerrod Wrote:
My only beef's that she never had her climactic battle with Kano on the Rooftop. If there was one thing that needed to happen, it was her throwing him off a roof, except this time, Motaro wouldn't have been there to revive him.
Speaking of Kano, do him next time!
My only beef's that she never had her climactic battle with Kano on the Rooftop. If there was one thing that needed to happen, it was her throwing him off a roof, except this time, Motaro wouldn't have been there to revive him.
Speaking of Kano, do him next time!
They will hopefully tackle this issue in the next game. Maybe they have bigger things for Kano in the sequel. That being said, it will hopefully end with a reference to their MK3 Rooftop battle. It better. And Sonya has to be the winner.
PS: I love Kano.
Garlador Wrote:
I'm sorry to have to break it to you, but Sonya's default costume for the next game was hinted at awhile ago.
queve Wrote:
And she better not be fighting in a freaking swim-suit. Or I'm out!
And she better not be fighting in a freaking swim-suit. Or I'm out!
I'm sorry to have to break it to you, but Sonya's default costume for the next game was hinted at awhile ago.
If that ever did happen, like those horrible thong concept art designs for her in the MKDA Krypt, I would never accept it as Sonya.
Sad thing is...I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it did happen...knowing NRS and their dirty record of stupid mistakes.
PS: I love you guys! Just voicing out my frustration at some of your completely unforgivable (that make absolutely no-sense) mistakes.
Garlador Wrote:
Okay, seriously though, I'm still DYING for NRS to give her a klassic costume. If they don't include it in this game, I'm begging them to put it in the next game.
Here's a little mock-up I did to share the general idea.
Okay, seriously though, I'm still DYING for NRS to give her a klassic costume. If they don't include it in this game, I'm begging them to put it in the next game.
Here's a little mock-up I did to share the general idea.
That is glorious! The only other attempt I've seen as this is this picture, and, as cool as it is, I think I like yours better. Much more faithful, obviously:
samuhai Wrote:
Oh, and Quevey? I love you ^_^ Haha. Your enthusiasm makes me feel better about my own.
Oh, and Quevey? I love you ^_^ Haha. Your enthusiasm makes me feel better about my own.
I know. I have a problem.
samuhai Wrote:
As for the rest.... all I can really say is... YAY OMFG SONYA OMG *gaygasm*
She was the first character I ever played as, when my cousin set-up MK4 on playstation. I saw a hot-blonde who ripped people in half and holy cow I was in love. Since then I've had a fascination with blondes, (Princess Peach, Buffy the Vampire Slayer) and holy crap she'll always b e number one for me.
As for the rest.... all I can really say is... YAY OMFG SONYA OMG *gaygasm*
She was the first character I ever played as, when my cousin set-up MK4 on playstation. I saw a hot-blonde who ripped people in half and holy cow I was in love. Since then I've had a fascination with blondes, (Princess Peach, Buffy the Vampire Slayer) and holy crap she'll always b e number one for me.
OMG!...its so funny you say this, because, I think I can safely say that my fascination with awesome blondes started thanks to Sonya. It's actually very cool to see that I'm not the only one who was affected by her glorious and badass presence.
Since Sonya, I've immediately felt attracted and admire tough chicks, and, well, its just so much better if they happen to be blonde.
Also, gorgeous Red hairs...but, I have Ariel, from The Little Mermaid, to blame for that one.
PS: Forget Kira. Awesome costume design, love the hair, but, that was about it. If she ever returns, a serious and major revamp is a must. Besides her costume and a bit of her origins, well, she's just another BDC clone.
samuhai Wrote:
Like Queve, I'm also disappointed the bike kicks are gone. They were a sweet move, but I am quite satisfied with the arc kick. So freaking handy!
Not a fan of the crappy kiss of death too. Almost useless except when the opponent jumps in, and is pretty much pointless. I've used it like... twice?
Her second fatality. On itself, I like it. It's somethign knew for her, it's simple (which I like), it's efficient. But when you realise what she's missing out on (her kiss of deaths), and what it's up against (a million and one decapitations and limb rips)... it's lacking...
Like Queve, I'm also disappointed the bike kicks are gone. They were a sweet move, but I am quite satisfied with the arc kick. So freaking handy!
Not a fan of the crappy kiss of death too. Almost useless except when the opponent jumps in, and is pretty much pointless. I've used it like... twice?
Her second fatality. On itself, I like it. It's somethign knew for her, it's simple (which I like), it's efficient. But when you realise what she's missing out on (her kiss of deaths), and what it's up against (a million and one decapitations and limb rips)... it's lacking...
All of those three things.
Also, I would have much rather seen this glorious Fatality with the big M-RATED effect it deserves:
Just imagine the spine sticking out of Kano's neck PLUS a cool twisted cinematic effect to Sonya's twist. Helicopter-like would have been kick ass.
Seriously, so many creative ways to make something generic look special and unique. WHY can't they try just a little bit harder?....yeah, that being said, I do not underestimate the MK team or undervalue their work. Some of their stuff though, is highly (and rightfully) questionable in the eyes of many fans.
It's not like they haven't done (much) better before, so...
samuhai Wrote:
This is still the most epic presentation of Sonya, certainly game-play wise. Great little tricks to play with, some r eally cool moves (I love the tackle-pound on their face-kick them in the nutsack military stance move)
Loved her role in the story, though i WISH that she'd gotten to throw Kano from the roof... I mean... he survived it either way.... why not show it?
All in all, I can't WAIT to see her in MK10, cos she's definitely got to be in it.
This is still the most epic presentation of Sonya, certainly game-play wise. Great little tricks to play with, some r eally cool moves (I love the tackle-pound on their face-kick them in the nutsack military stance move)
Loved her role in the story, though i WISH that she'd gotten to throw Kano from the roof... I mean... he survived it either way.... why not show it?
All in all, I can't WAIT to see her in MK10, cos she's definitely got to be in it.
That move from her Military Stance is probably my favorite to execute! I love how awesome and stylish her kick moves look, but, this one is just so tough and so badass that it's impossible not to love it:
1) She slams you down with all the force of her blonde hair.
2) She punches you like an enraged King Kong after a Broadway show.
3) And then she kicks you in the nuts like the bitch that you are sending you to the other side of the screen.
So sweet. So very Sonya.
On the Kano thing, again, I agree. Hopefully this means they are saving this finale for the sequel.
samuhai Wrote:
Hopefully h er and Johnny will be war-ravaged heroes, trying to gather new fighters tobattle the netherrealm. Hopefully they'll also be bonding a little too.
I for one would LOVE a more official JC-Sonya relationship, if only hints. There's nothing wrong with a love story being done in MK... It happens in real life, it happens in real war. People fall for each other, and it can provide compelling motivation. So long as it's not cheesy, over-done, or all too common (that is, every girl doesn't need a "love interest" and vice versa)
Hopefully h er and Johnny will be war-ravaged heroes, trying to gather new fighters tobattle the netherrealm. Hopefully they'll also be bonding a little too.
I for one would LOVE a more official JC-Sonya relationship, if only hints. There's nothing wrong with a love story being done in MK... It happens in real life, it happens in real war. People fall for each other, and it can provide compelling motivation. So long as it's not cheesy, over-done, or all too common (that is, every girl doesn't need a "love interest" and vice versa)
This!
I absolutely love that they finally took the little game-hints to show something more absolute just like the comics' and the movies' did.
The Sonya + Johnny relationship has been long overdue and highly demanded for good reasons. It was great in MK9 (though not long or definite enough), but, it was a great nod to the first film and the comics. Hopefully the next game will be more serious about this subject.
I personally can't wait.
Darkmage41 Wrote:
Oh my! I haven’t visited the MK board for a while but today as if through some psychic pull I was drawn to the Boards only to spot this post. Let me just commend you on a stupendous job you’ve done, everything hit the right note with frightening pin point accuracy even the humor?!
I have nothing further to add except that you’ve paid an impeccable tribute to the great dame of Mortal Kombat and it was a privilege reading your post.
Oh my! I haven’t visited the MK board for a while but today as if through some psychic pull I was drawn to the Boards only to spot this post. Let me just commend you on a stupendous job you’ve done, everything hit the right note with frightening pin point accuracy even the humor?!
I have nothing further to add except that you’ve paid an impeccable tribute to the great dame of Mortal Kombat and it was a privilege reading your post.
Darkmage41 is BACK!
Yay!
Hope to see you post more often. We just need, TomTaz, Keith and Leo involved in this ASAP.
TomTaz Wrote:
*edit*
You should try your hand at an MK4 costume edit.
*edit*
You should try your hand at an MK4 costume edit.
And he is here!
And I agree with him. Garlador, please consider Tom's request. MK4 costume edit would be glorious!
I remember Jaded-Raven did a pretty fantastic job giving her a shirt + MK4's cap to her primary. Where is that picture?
*goes to seach*
Espio872 Wrote:
I'm a huge fan of acrobatics and non-stereotypical warriors throwing down and kicking butt, I love that Sonya brawls with the boys and does it better than many of them.
Her personality in this game was great, tough as nails, yet emotional and a great team player.
I'm a huge fan of acrobatics and non-stereotypical warriors throwing down and kicking butt, I love that Sonya brawls with the boys and does it better than many of them.
Her personality in this game was great, tough as nails, yet emotional and a great team player.
I kind of wish there were more Kano moments.
You know, I get that that story has come to its end and all of that jazz, however, this game being what it is, it should have been a predominant subject at least during the MK1 or MK3 finale. Her battle with Kano was cool, but, their encounters were not as OMG as they should have been.
Hopefully next game will allow Sonya to settle her score.
Espio872 Wrote:
I liked her ending and I think that if they incorporate some of it into her future it could be interesting, I want to see Sonya struggle heavily, she lost Jax, one of her closest allies and closest person to her in the world most likely in addition to people who she survived cut throat battles with and the bond that would inherently be built. It truly would take its toll on someone's sanity to lose 10 people you care about in the blink of an eye.
I hope Johnny and Kai are there to help pick up the pieces, but mostly Johnny because by now my excitement for a Johnn/Sonya relationship is no secret
Sonya is my second favorite character, so I'm elated she survived, after seeing my favorite Stryker and other well liked characters like Smoke, Jade, Nightwolf, and Jax fall, my first reaction was, "oh crap.." then I saw Sonya and JC were alive, so that really made it less disappointing and has me excited for their future.
I liked her ending and I think that if they incorporate some of it into her future it could be interesting, I want to see Sonya struggle heavily, she lost Jax, one of her closest allies and closest person to her in the world most likely in addition to people who she survived cut throat battles with and the bond that would inherently be built. It truly would take its toll on someone's sanity to lose 10 people you care about in the blink of an eye.
I hope Johnny and Kai are there to help pick up the pieces, but mostly Johnny because by now my excitement for a Johnn/Sonya relationship is no secret
Sonya is my second favorite character, so I'm elated she survived, after seeing my favorite Stryker and other well liked characters like Smoke, Jade, Nightwolf, and Jax fall, my first reaction was, "oh crap.." then I saw Sonya and JC were alive, so that really made it less disappointing and has me excited for their future.
Sonya's ending is one of my very least favorite ones, art-wise.
Only one simple and small picture of her riding a motorcycle?....crap. I hoped and expected for some epic art like most characters got in their endings or Vignettes. It was a real disappointment to just see that one shot of her and than one that shows her from behind.
The invasion looks epic, so does her father's spirit, but, this was Sonya's ending, and she barely got any art. Bleh.
As for the ending itself, I'm intrigued by it and I can't wait to see what they are planning to do.
This has a lot of potential:
1) Is that spirit really her father? If so, what does he really want? If not, who is he really and where did it come from and with what evil purpose?
2) Sonya abandoning the SF/OIA to embark on a new role pretty is pretty much an answer to every fan who has been clamoring that Sonya takes a new path for a change. This twist has potential.
That being said, I hope she stays long enough to actually create the OIA. I want to see them in the game. She can take a leave of absence after that in order to move to a new twist. This sub-plot is quite significant in the universe of MK.
And yes, Sonya+Johnny = FTW!
Espio872 Wrote:
The alternate is super cool though, she's wearing work boots, awesome green shorts, and what looks like a sports bra/tank top, love the hat and the glasses are okay. I love how cool and tough she looks in this costume, like she's going to go mountain climbing or go some early morning runs before her military briefings, how Sonya should look, serious, yet super cool.
The alternate is super cool though, she's wearing work boots, awesome green shorts, and what looks like a sports bra/tank top, love the hat and the glasses are okay. I love how cool and tough she looks in this costume, like she's going to go mountain climbing or go some early morning runs before her military briefings, how Sonya should look, serious, yet super cool.
My favorite Sonya costume ever.
MKvsDC being the second. Very close second.
Then her MK9 primary (a shirt would have made this one my #2).
Scar_Subby Wrote:
Sonya is an amazing character in the series and is probably my second favorite female behind only Jade.
I didn't like the whole daddy plotline they gave to her but I actually am glad that she survived. Something I simply cannot say about Johnny Cage. Sonya to me is as tough as they come and a person who would try anyway she can to survive and basically would have looked Sindel in her face and said "You ain't killin this b**ch, b**ch.lol". While Johnny just comes off as a complete joke to me still and I feel the only reason he survived this time was to give her a romance which is ridiculous to me. I completely understand her surviving, but Johnny was kind of a "no, why did you of all people survive?" kind of thing.lol
Sonya is an amazing character in the series and is probably my second favorite female behind only Jade.
I didn't like the whole daddy plotline they gave to her but I actually am glad that she survived. Something I simply cannot say about Johnny Cage. Sonya to me is as tough as they come and a person who would try anyway she can to survive and basically would have looked Sindel in her face and said "You ain't killin this b**ch, b**ch.lol". While Johnny just comes off as a complete joke to me still and I feel the only reason he survived this time was to give her a romance which is ridiculous to me. I completely understand her surviving, but Johnny was kind of a "no, why did you of all people survive?" kind of thing.lol
Scar_Subby Wrote:
Sonya to me is as tough as they come and a person who would try anyway she can to survive and basically would have looked Sindel in her face and said "You ain't killin this b**ch, b**ch.lol".
Sonya to me is as tough as they come and a person who would try anyway she can to survive and basically would have looked Sindel in her face and said "You ain't killin this b**ch, b**ch.lol".
LMAO!
Scar_Subby Wrote:
Sonya is an amazing character in the series and is probably my second favorite female behind only Jade.
I didn't like the whole daddy plotline they gave to her but I actually am glad that she survived. Something I simply cannot say about Johnny Cage...While Johnny just comes off as a complete joke to me still and I feel the only reason he survived this time was to give her a romance which is ridiculous to me. I completely understand her surviving, but Johnny was kind of a "no, why did you of all people survive?" kind of thing.lol
Sonya is an amazing character in the series and is probably my second favorite female behind only Jade.
I didn't like the whole daddy plotline they gave to her but I actually am glad that she survived. Something I simply cannot say about Johnny Cage...While Johnny just comes off as a complete joke to me still and I feel the only reason he survived this time was to give her a romance which is ridiculous to me. I completely understand her surviving, but Johnny was kind of a "no, why did you of all people survive?" kind of thing.lol
Really? I can understand that feeling if you think of old Johnny Cage.
MKA + MK9 Johnny Cage is certainly no pushover or joke.
He is funny and comedic, thats true, but, there is a clear balance that makes him stand out as a brave significant hero. A warrior.
And I'm not just saying that because he is my second favorite, I'm saying it because he did really change during MKA.
Scar_Subby Wrote:
...Some people would be against this but to play up on her rivalry with Kano, I think honestly a rape storyline would make that rivalry ten times better...Also him carrying her hair and such would have even more backstory as well. I feel like her victimization would be her tough skin later in life and why she doesn't take sh*t off of anyone. What do you guys think?
...Some people would be against this but to play up on her rivalry with Kano, I think honestly a rape storyline would make that rivalry ten times better...Also him carrying her hair and such would have even more backstory as well. I feel like her victimization would be her tough skin later in life and why she doesn't take sh*t off of anyone. What do you guys think?
It's an interesting suggestion, but, at the end of the day, I agree with almost everything Garlador said regarding this subject.
Besides, I too find more interesting the:
A) Brother
B) Partner
C) Fiance
D) Father
options than the "rape" one. I have to agree with Garlador. Also:
Garlador Wrote:
4) Let's be honest here; Sonya being sexually victimized doesn't seem like the sort of thing that, well, fits a woman of her ruthless skills, training, ability, or strength, not any more than Johnny Cage being sexually attacked by Mileena or Liu Kang becoming a victim of Tanya's sexual aggression. For a woman that can rip a man apart with her legs alone, I don't see any man attempting to take advantage of her walking away in anything less than a pool of blood, spilled vital organs, and a shattered sense of manliness, self-worth, and belief in a benevolent God.
It's just subject matter I don't feel meshes with either Sonya or the series proper. Not saying it's necessarily a bad idea, but in my opinion it would be inappropriate for both character and franchise.
4) Let's be honest here; Sonya being sexually victimized doesn't seem like the sort of thing that, well, fits a woman of her ruthless skills, training, ability, or strength, not any more than Johnny Cage being sexually attacked by Mileena or Liu Kang becoming a victim of Tanya's sexual aggression. For a woman that can rip a man apart with her legs alone, I don't see any man attempting to take advantage of her walking away in anything less than a pool of blood, spilled vital organs, and a shattered sense of manliness, self-worth, and belief in a benevolent God.
It's just subject matter I don't feel meshes with either Sonya or the series proper. Not saying it's necessarily a bad idea, but in my opinion it would be inappropriate for both character and franchise.
LMAO!!! Absolutely true.
However, I think that Kano is not that far away from being this twisted. He does come off as a perv and he is certainly and evil coward. Yeah, suits the "rapist" profile quite well, imo.
Scar_Subby Wrote:
Also on Kano's feelings toward Sonya, I don't see it as any sort of romance on his part, but merely him being a sick evil bastard.lol. He just likes to use women and thinks it's easy to do. The manner in which he was portrayed in the first mortal kombat movie also made me think this about him. He just seemed to almost talk down to Sonya like he could do whatever he wanted with her. I know the movie has nothing to do with actual story just saying his portayal in that movie made me get that feeling from his character.
Also on Kano's feelings toward Sonya, I don't see it as any sort of romance on his part, but merely him being a sick evil bastard.lol. He just likes to use women and thinks it's easy to do. The manner in which he was portrayed in the first mortal kombat movie also made me think this about him. He just seemed to almost talk down to Sonya like he could do whatever he wanted with her. I know the movie has nothing to do with actual story just saying his portayal in that movie made me get that feeling from his character.
This is good.
Also, the movies have been of some influence to the games. Many things from the films have made it to the game in either subtle or plain obvious ways (from character designs to even character origins and stories).
Espio872 Wrote:
Oh and I forgot, no bicycle kicks, was not a happy camper
Oh and I forgot, no bicycle kicks, was not a happy camper
Quoted because its absolutely necessary for NRS to read how much fans want them back.
And her Kiss.
GodlyShinnok Wrote:
Gameplay wise I think Sonya is one of the most complete characters.
Fast pokes, safe strings, air dive that starts combos, safe launcher special, air throw, military cancel for mixups, projectile, arc kick with great angle, stun, hyper armor X-Ray.
I'm surprised I haven't seen more Sonyas in tourneys.
In regards to her costumes, I like her default, her alternate not so much.
One good fatality, the other one is crap.
Oh and also:
Gameplay wise I think Sonya is one of the most complete characters.
Fast pokes, safe strings, air dive that starts combos, safe launcher special, air throw, military cancel for mixups, projectile, arc kick with great angle, stun, hyper armor X-Ray.
I'm surprised I haven't seen more Sonyas in tourneys.
In regards to her costumes, I like her default, her alternate not so much.
One good fatality, the other one is crap.
Oh and also:
YES!!!
PS: Her Kiss stun is very disappointing though. Why the hell hasn't it been buffed yet?
Icebaby Wrote:
It would be nice if Sonya and Kano's story got more interesting rather than, "Oh he's a mole I gotta kick his butt now."
With how much hate these two have between them, there has to be something more than just he was a mole... Unless I'm forgetting something here and he did something big but... Yet again, neither of these guys had great stories, in my opinion, throughout the entire series and their rivalry never made sense towards me if all he was is some kind of mole.
It would be nice if Sonya and Kano's story got more interesting rather than, "Oh he's a mole I gotta kick his butt now."
With how much hate these two have between them, there has to be something more than just he was a mole... Unless I'm forgetting something here and he did something big but... Yet again, neither of these guys had great stories, in my opinion, throughout the entire series and their rivalry never made sense towards me if all he was is some kind of mole.
Well, he did get a lot of her friends killed and he personally "used her". The way Sonya said that was kind of cryptic and dark. Who knows?
Also, him being responsible for the death of her close partner (who could have been her brother or even fiance) has not been reconfirmed by NRS, ever. Something tells me they simply don't bother to touch on that because they feel like its something obvious. Shame.
Just like the wonderful origins and backstory of Kitana + Mileena, it was all pretty "obvious" despite having no solid confirmations by NRS (points at Legacy as a great example)...and then MK9 happened.
But I see your point.
Shadaloo Wrote:
Ah, another magnificent post.
I came away more or less pleased with mizz Blade in this game. As I mentioned in the Cage/Sonya thread, there seems to be a concentrated effort going on to turn the good guys into characters of substance as opposed to the cookie-cutter caricatures coming back time and again 'to fight evil' as they've done in the past (and to turn Kung Lao into a complete fucking caricature himself,but that's for another time). I'm expecting big things for her in the future, that she'll take on more of a prominent leadership role along with Johnny.
Ah, another magnificent post.
I came away more or less pleased with mizz Blade in this game. As I mentioned in the Cage/Sonya thread, there seems to be a concentrated effort going on to turn the good guys into characters of substance as opposed to the cookie-cutter caricatures coming back time and again 'to fight evil' as they've done in the past (and to turn Kung Lao into a complete fucking caricature himself,but that's for another time). I'm expecting big things for her in the future, that she'll take on more of a prominent leadership role along with Johnny.
Hopefully you are correct!
It's really great to see all the support these two have received in this game. Makes me a happy fan.
Shadaloo Wrote:
The introduction of the plot thread that is Sonya's father did come out of left field, but I feel it was absolutely necessary; she's been completely and totally defined by her relationship with Kano, and it's time there was more to her than just duty. We've seen Cage grow as a character, and she's long overdue for the same.
The introduction of the plot thread that is Sonya's father did come out of left field, but I feel it was absolutely necessary; she's been completely and totally defined by her relationship with Kano, and it's time there was more to her than just duty. We've seen Cage grow as a character, and she's long overdue for the same.
Yes.
Shadaloo Wrote:
She was absolutely missing a few elements to make her complete, though.
She was absolutely missing a few elements to make her complete, though.
Like her Bicycle Kicks.
Like her Kiss of Death Fatality.
And a fucking shirt under her vest...
Shadaloo Wrote:
She was absolutely missing a few elements to make her complete, though. The omission of the MK3 Sonya/Kano throwdown came as a suprise, and this had better not be so that they can drag out their grudge. Let's just toss him off the skyscraper next game, and move on to this new personal touch she's been given, in the form of the search for her old man.
She was absolutely missing a few elements to make her complete, though. The omission of the MK3 Sonya/Kano throwdown came as a suprise, and this had better not be so that they can drag out their grudge. Let's just toss him off the skyscraper next game, and move on to this new personal touch she's been given, in the form of the search for her old man.
...oh, yes...those too!
Shadaloo Wrote:
I didn't have too many issues with her outfit as it seemed to me intended as an update of her Mk1 look, albeit over-sexualized. She needs to wear proper clothes, of course. Sex sells and yada yada yada, but if she must dress skimpy, so be it, but let's save it for an alt costume, OK?
I didn't have too many issues with her outfit as it seemed to me intended as an update of her Mk1 look, albeit over-sexualized. She needs to wear proper clothes, of course. Sex sells and yada yada yada, but if she must dress skimpy, so be it, but let's save it for an alt costume, OK?
I'm afraid they might do that.
I don't care for seeing Sonya fighting in a swimsuit, on a thong, or without any pants in any shape or form.
That's not Sonya.
Shadaloo Wrote:
Moveset was solid, but for god's sake, can we keep something else along with the sonic rings and kiss next time? She''s seriously lacking in gameplay consistency between titles in recent years. Let's stick with this.
Not a fan of her ridiculous leg splits fatality, but I liked her garrotte wire, even if it was obviously a tad fanservicey. Where's the kiss of death? C'mon, NRS.
Moveset was solid, but for god's sake, can we keep something else along with the sonic rings and kiss next time? She''s seriously lacking in gameplay consistency between titles in recent years. Let's stick with this.
Not a fan of her ridiculous leg splits fatality, but I liked her garrotte wire, even if it was obviously a tad fanservicey. Where's the kiss of death? C'mon, NRS.
Well, I think it's safe to say that the Leg Grab is back to stay, along side the Energy Rings and the hopefully the Kiss.
I also expect the return of her kicks considering how hugely demanded they've been and how strongly they were referenced in this game.
Her second Fatality suits someone like Kira or Stryker better. She should have been at least more acrobatic and fantastic about it. I hate it not because it sucks, but, because it sucks for someone like Sonya (who is already missing significant and more impressive trademarks).
queve Wrote:
And he is here!
And I agree with him. Garlador, please consider Tom's request. MK4 costume edit would be glorious!
TomTaz Wrote:
*edit*
You should try your hand at an MK4 costume edit.
*edit*
You should try your hand at an MK4 costume edit.
And he is here!
And I agree with him. Garlador, please consider Tom's request. MK4 costume edit would be glorious!
I don't want to turn this into a "Garlador does Sonya manips" thread, but, well, I'm sure this effort would be appreciated.
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Garlador Wrote:
I don't want to turn this into a "Garlador does Sonya manips" thread, but, well, I'm sure this effort would be appreciated.
queve Wrote:
And he is here!
And I agree with him. Garlador, please consider Tom's request. MK4 costume edit would be glorious!
TomTaz Wrote:
*edit*
You should try your hand at an MK4 costume edit.
*edit*
You should try your hand at an MK4 costume edit.
And he is here!
And I agree with him. Garlador, please consider Tom's request. MK4 costume edit would be glorious!
I don't want to turn this into a "Garlador does Sonya manips" thread, but, well, I'm sure this effort would be appreciated.
I am speechless...
Garlador Wrote:
I don't want to turn this into a "Garlador does Sonya manips" thread, but, well, I'm sure this effort would be appreciated.
I don't want to turn this into a "Garlador does Sonya manips" thread, but, well, I'm sure this effort would be appreciated.
Woah!!!.....just, wow!
Garlador, you have (easily) managed to convince me (and probably every other "MK3 retro supporter" out there) that this is her best retro look for DLC and/or for future costume inspiration....ever.
My goodness that render edit is so flawless it looks official! Beautiful job! And yes, your efforts have been appreciated and rewarded for both of your render creations.
Another favorite of mine is this one (which I actually mentioned in one of my posts above) made by the very talented Keith, featuring her lovely MK4 red color:
Edit: And this one too, also by the absolutely amazing Keith:
If you guys haven't checked out his MK art, I highly recommend that you do it this instant. Just click here.
Superb job, Garlador! And thanks so much for taking the time to do that.
PS: Looooving the boots without the high heels!
Espio872 Wrote:
Oh that's so beautiful, so so amazing. It translates so well, literally the best costume Sonya has ever had, she looks part merc and part military, serious, yet a nice homage to her iconic look, marvelous.
Oh that's so beautiful, so so amazing. It translates so well, literally the best costume Sonya has ever had, she looks part merc and part military, serious, yet a nice homage to her iconic look, marvelous.
Everything he said.
I'm kind of hoping someone out there will color Garlador's MK4 Sonya in red. That was pretty much her main and predominant color in MK4. Also, it suits her so much better than green. Just saying.
*looks around for volunteers*
Anyway, I support the return of an primary MK4-inspired costume as long as it has new updates and twists. I like how Keith's art, for example, mixes a bit of her MKvsDC look into it. I still root for more updates, though.
If its a lovely retro, its fine if it stays the same (hopefully the fucking ninjas wont get all the DLC attention once again). If its meant as a "new costume" for her, it definitely needs to be updated and slightly modified to look more modern/futuristic and fit the series current level of designs.
queve Wrote: >
I'm kind of hoping someone out there will color Garlador's MK4 Sonya in red. That was pretty much her main and predominant color in MK4. Also, it suits her so much better than green. Just saying.
*looks around for volunteers*
I'm kind of hoping someone out there will color Garlador's MK4 Sonya in red. That was pretty much her main and predominant color in MK4. Also, it suits her so much better than green. Just saying.
*looks around for volunteers*
Ah, yes... SOMEONE out there should... someone awesome like that....
I seriously love you people too much.
Garlador Wrote:
Ah, yes... SOMEONE out there should... someone awesome like that....
I seriously love you people too much.
queve Wrote:
>
I'm kind of hoping someone out there will color Garlador's MK4 Sonya in red. That was pretty much her main and predominant color in MK4. Also, it suits her so much better than green. Just saying.
*looks around for volunteers*
>
I'm kind of hoping someone out there will color Garlador's MK4 Sonya in red. That was pretty much her main and predominant color in MK4. Also, it suits her so much better than green. Just saying.
*looks around for volunteers*
Ah, yes... SOMEONE out there should... someone awesome like that....
I seriously love you people too much.
Garlador Wrote:
Ah, yes... SOMEONE out there should... someone awesome like that....
I seriously love you people too much.
queve Wrote:
>
I'm kind of hoping someone out there will color Garlador's MK4 Sonya in red. That was pretty much her main and predominant color in MK4. Also, it suits her so much better than green. Just saying.
*looks around for volunteers*
>
I'm kind of hoping someone out there will color Garlador's MK4 Sonya in red. That was pretty much her main and predominant color in MK4. Also, it suits her so much better than green. Just saying.
*looks around for volunteers*
Ah, yes... SOMEONE out there should... someone awesome like that....
I seriously love you people too much.
I just died a little... That... is... EPIC...
ho...ly...crap... O.o
O.M.G
o.o Seriously... 'bout to die.... wants... Wants... WANTS!
Those are some fantastic MK4 Sonya edits!
Anyway, as for Sonya in MK2011:
GAMEPLAY: +
Best Sonya since MK4! I haven't played MKvsDC, so after MK4 I finally enjoy playing with her again. During the MKDA-MKA era I hardly ever played with Sonya due to the lack of all of her trademark special moves. I don't know what were they thinking. Anyway, love playing with her in the new game, although I only recently picked her up and I still have lots of leveling up do do with her. I also enjoy watching her matches on the tourney scene, guys like Riu48, Poto2222 and Morty Seinfeld really do her justice. I don't miss her bicycle kicks like most do, I love the new Arc Kick, I feel like it's much more in nature with her character and it's very unique looking. Love the Military Stance!
DESIGN: +/-
The primary costume could have been great, but it was ruined with the lack of shirt and those unbelievably stupid high heels attached to the combat boots. Wtf?! It makes her look really bad/silly during her intro scene. Her alternate is like a blessing and that's why she gets a plus. It's a nice looking costume (and much more modest than the primary) with it's own distinctive flavour. I also like that's it's actually very different from her primary and thus really is an "alternate" costume, unlike Kung Lao's costumes for example where there's hardly any difference between them.
STORY: +/-
Nothing too memorable from her in the story mode, but no major complaints either (I guess she should have helped Jax in the Soul Chamber against Ermac, but oh well... Screw Jax lol!). It's a shame the MK3 Kano confrontation didn't take place. It's kind of hard for me to comment the story mode at all, since there's so much that doesn't make sense... I did like her personality, so that's a plus!
Overall, MK2011 Sonya Blade gets a plus from Mr. Masato Sanjouin.
As for her future, I just hope her gameplay stays as fun as it is and I hope they give her a proper Special Forces primary costume! MK2011 bitch-slapped me pretty hard with its story mode, so at the moment I kind of don't care what they do with the stories of characters, I just want them to look good and most importantly play good.
Anyway, as for Sonya in MK2011:
GAMEPLAY: +
Best Sonya since MK4! I haven't played MKvsDC, so after MK4 I finally enjoy playing with her again. During the MKDA-MKA era I hardly ever played with Sonya due to the lack of all of her trademark special moves. I don't know what were they thinking. Anyway, love playing with her in the new game, although I only recently picked her up and I still have lots of leveling up do do with her. I also enjoy watching her matches on the tourney scene, guys like Riu48, Poto2222 and Morty Seinfeld really do her justice. I don't miss her bicycle kicks like most do, I love the new Arc Kick, I feel like it's much more in nature with her character and it's very unique looking. Love the Military Stance!
DESIGN: +/-
The primary costume could have been great, but it was ruined with the lack of shirt and those unbelievably stupid high heels attached to the combat boots. Wtf?! It makes her look really bad/silly during her intro scene. Her alternate is like a blessing and that's why she gets a plus. It's a nice looking costume (and much more modest than the primary) with it's own distinctive flavour. I also like that's it's actually very different from her primary and thus really is an "alternate" costume, unlike Kung Lao's costumes for example where there's hardly any difference between them.
STORY: +/-
Nothing too memorable from her in the story mode, but no major complaints either (I guess she should have helped Jax in the Soul Chamber against Ermac, but oh well... Screw Jax lol!). It's a shame the MK3 Kano confrontation didn't take place. It's kind of hard for me to comment the story mode at all, since there's so much that doesn't make sense... I did like her personality, so that's a plus!
Overall, MK2011 Sonya Blade gets a plus from Mr. Masato Sanjouin.
As for her future, I just hope her gameplay stays as fun as it is and I hope they give her a proper Special Forces primary costume! MK2011 bitch-slapped me pretty hard with its story mode, so at the moment I kind of don't care what they do with the stories of characters, I just want them to look good and most importantly play good.
samuhai Wrote:
I just died a little... That... is... EPIC...
ho...ly...crap... O.o
O.M.G
o.o Seriously... 'bout to die.... wants... Wants... WANTS!
Garlador Wrote:
Ah, yes... SOMEONE out there should... someone awesome like that....
I seriously love you people too much.
queve Wrote:
>
I'm kind of hoping someone out there will color Garlador's MK4 Sonya in red. That was pretty much her main and predominant color in MK4. Also, it suits her so much better than green. Just saying.
*looks around for volunteers*
>
I'm kind of hoping someone out there will color Garlador's MK4 Sonya in red. That was pretty much her main and predominant color in MK4. Also, it suits her so much better than green. Just saying.
*looks around for volunteers*
Ah, yes... SOMEONE out there should... someone awesome like that....
I seriously love you people too much.
I just died a little... That... is... EPIC...
ho...ly...crap... O.o
O.M.G
o.o Seriously... 'bout to die.... wants... Wants... WANTS!
OMG!!! That is freaking gorgeous! Thanks so much, Garlador!
To be honest, this is the first time I noticed the designed-pattern differences between her primary green costume and the alternate red costume she wears. Awesome and flawless edit, Garlador!
She looks gorgeous and so badass. This should have been her classic DLC costume...a shame all of that extra/special content went solely to the f*cking ninjas.
Nephrite Wrote:
Those are some fantastic MK4 Sonya edits!
Anyway, as for Sonya in MK2011:
GAMEPLAY: +
Best Sonya since MK4! I haven't played MKvsDC, so after MK4 I finally enjoy playing with her again. During the MKDA-MKA era I hardly ever played with Sonya due to the lack of all of her trademark special moves. I don't know what were they thinking. Anyway, love playing with her in the new game, although I only recently picked her up and I still have lots of leveling up do do with her. I also enjoy watching her matches on the tourney scene, guys like Riu48, Poto2222 and Morty Seinfeld really do her justice. I don't miss her bicycle kicks like most do, I love the new Arc Kick, I feel like it's much more in nature with her character and it's very unique looking. Love the Military Stance!
DESIGN: +/-
The primary costume could have been great, but it was ruined with the lack of shirt and those unbelievably stupid high heels attached to the combat boots. Wtf?! It makes her look really bad/silly during her intro scene. Her alternate is like a blessing and that's why she gets a plus. It's a nice looking costume (and much more modest than the primary) with it's own distinctive flavour. I also like that's it's actually very different from her primary and thus really is an "alternate" costume, unlike Kung Lao's costumes for example where there's hardly any difference between them.
STORY: +/-
Nothing too memorable from her in the story mode, but no major complaints either (I guess she should have helped Jax in the Soul Chamber against Ermac, but oh well... Screw Jax lol!). It's a shame the MK3 Kano confrontation didn't take place. It's kind of hard for me to comment the story mode at all, since there's so much that doesn't make sense... I did like her personality, so that's a plus!
Overall, MK2011 Sonya Blade gets a plus from Mr. Masato Sanjouin.
As for her future, I just hope her gameplay stays as fun as it is and I hope they give her a proper Special Forces primary costume! MK2011 bitch-slapped me pretty hard with its story mode, so at the moment I kind of don't care what they do with the stories of characters, I just want them to look good and most importantly play good.
Those are some fantastic MK4 Sonya edits!
Anyway, as for Sonya in MK2011:
GAMEPLAY: +
Best Sonya since MK4! I haven't played MKvsDC, so after MK4 I finally enjoy playing with her again. During the MKDA-MKA era I hardly ever played with Sonya due to the lack of all of her trademark special moves. I don't know what were they thinking. Anyway, love playing with her in the new game, although I only recently picked her up and I still have lots of leveling up do do with her. I also enjoy watching her matches on the tourney scene, guys like Riu48, Poto2222 and Morty Seinfeld really do her justice. I don't miss her bicycle kicks like most do, I love the new Arc Kick, I feel like it's much more in nature with her character and it's very unique looking. Love the Military Stance!
DESIGN: +/-
The primary costume could have been great, but it was ruined with the lack of shirt and those unbelievably stupid high heels attached to the combat boots. Wtf?! It makes her look really bad/silly during her intro scene. Her alternate is like a blessing and that's why she gets a plus. It's a nice looking costume (and much more modest than the primary) with it's own distinctive flavour. I also like that's it's actually very different from her primary and thus really is an "alternate" costume, unlike Kung Lao's costumes for example where there's hardly any difference between them.
STORY: +/-
Nothing too memorable from her in the story mode, but no major complaints either (I guess she should have helped Jax in the Soul Chamber against Ermac, but oh well... Screw Jax lol!). It's a shame the MK3 Kano confrontation didn't take place. It's kind of hard for me to comment the story mode at all, since there's so much that doesn't make sense... I did like her personality, so that's a plus!
Overall, MK2011 Sonya Blade gets a plus from Mr. Masato Sanjouin.
As for her future, I just hope her gameplay stays as fun as it is and I hope they give her a proper Special Forces primary costume! MK2011 bitch-slapped me pretty hard with its story mode, so at the moment I kind of don't care what they do with the stories of characters, I just want them to look good and most importantly play good.
Love your comments!
Buddy, I highly recommend you give MKvsDC a try. Seriously. You can feel how they really started to get more serious and dedicated with the gameplay mechanics of MK thanks to that game.
Also, it definitely explains why you don't really "miss" her Bicycle Kicks. If you play that game and choose Sonya, there's just no way you won't have a blast performing her kicks + the pro move. It is so freaking epic and so much fun that it's ridiculous to think they scratched them from MK9. Seriously. After how glorious and fun they are in that game, it's quite absurd they were cut from MK9!
I mean, her Dive Kick is pretty much "a nod" to the MKvsDC downward Bike Kicks, but, not nearly as fun and epic. They look less impressive and awesome in MK9. Ugh. Why didn't they just leave that alone? Dive Kick (as useful as it is) should have been the downward bike kicks. Period.
If not for the overall gameplay experience or Sonya's kicks, give MKvsDC a shot for Kitana's fun gameplay and story mode. Considering you really appreciate the new gameplay of MK and are serious about it, I would have thought you would have given MKvsDC the time it deserves.
And regarding your comments about her on story mode, well, I disagree, but, without really getting into all I would say that made her such a badass, we can at least give her and Johnny some credit for their absolutely lovable and funny relationship and memorable personalities.
PS: I love your new sig. I don't know, it's simple, but, pretty badass. I like each one of those pictures for those characters, so, yay.
The reason I never played MKvsDC is that I only bought the PS3 earlier this year because of MK2011. Games here in my country cost cca. 75-80 $ and while MKvsDC is an older game and it's probably available for a lower price, I'm unemployed at the moment and the new console (which are also above average expensive over here) and MK2011 already bit my wallet hard. I'll probably get it one day though.
As for its gameplay, I've seen lots of clips on YT and while the engine looks fun and it's possible to do custom combos like in MK2011, I really dislike the Test Your Might, Close Combat and Free Fall Combat mechanics as they kind of feel off pace and ruin the momentum. I especially dislike Free Fall Combat, but I won't go deep into that now.
As for Sonya's bicycle kicks, I do enjoy them, especially in MK4 (plus that fun gibberish that goes with them), and I wouldn't mind seeing them back. I'm not against it, but if I had to choose between the Arc Kick and the Bicycle Kicks, I'd go for the former. It's just that it's a completely new and unique looking move and I feel like it's more appropriate for her since it makes her look more human and less magical and that's how I prefer Sonya. And if it's between Dive Kicks and Bicycle Kicks them I'm definitely in favor of the latter!
Thanks for the lovely comment on my new sig. It is kinda simple, but it took me hours to make it lol. I haven't done anything in Photoshop in ages and I was like "Well, what am I supposed to do now?" when I started it last night lol. I'm very amateur-ish with photo editing though.
Oh and, I was without internet access for a week due to technical difficulties, but I read your PM response and checked that "latest patch thread" and it's all OK now! Good job!
As for its gameplay, I've seen lots of clips on YT and while the engine looks fun and it's possible to do custom combos like in MK2011, I really dislike the Test Your Might, Close Combat and Free Fall Combat mechanics as they kind of feel off pace and ruin the momentum. I especially dislike Free Fall Combat, but I won't go deep into that now.
As for Sonya's bicycle kicks, I do enjoy them, especially in MK4 (plus that fun gibberish that goes with them), and I wouldn't mind seeing them back. I'm not against it, but if I had to choose between the Arc Kick and the Bicycle Kicks, I'd go for the former. It's just that it's a completely new and unique looking move and I feel like it's more appropriate for her since it makes her look more human and less magical and that's how I prefer Sonya. And if it's between Dive Kicks and Bicycle Kicks them I'm definitely in favor of the latter!
Thanks for the lovely comment on my new sig. It is kinda simple, but it took me hours to make it lol. I haven't done anything in Photoshop in ages and I was like "Well, what am I supposed to do now?" when I started it last night lol. I'm very amateur-ish with photo editing though.
Oh and, I was without internet access for a week due to technical difficulties, but I read your PM response and checked that "latest patch thread" and it's all OK now! Good job!
Garlador Wrote:
I don't want to turn this into a "Garlador does Sonya manips" thread, but, well, I'm sure this effort would be appreciated.
queve Wrote:
And he is here!
And I agree with him. Garlador, please consider Tom's request. MK4 costume edit would be glorious!
TomTaz Wrote:
*edit*
You should try your hand at an MK4 costume edit.
*edit*
You should try your hand at an MK4 costume edit.
And he is here!
And I agree with him. Garlador, please consider Tom's request. MK4 costume edit would be glorious!
I don't want to turn this into a "Garlador does Sonya manips" thread, but, well, I'm sure this effort would be appreciated.
Yep.. I agree with Queve.. that is definitely the one that needs to be done if Sonya gets a classic costume for DLC. Excellent work there man, it's perfect.
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Nephrite Wrote:
The reason I never played MKvsDC is that I only bought the PS3 earlier this year because of MK2011. Games here in my country cost cca. 75-80 $ and while MKvsDC is an older game and it's probably available for a lower price, I'm unemployed at the moment and the new console (which are also above average expensive over here) and MK2011 already bit my wallet hard. I'll probably get it one day though.
The reason I never played MKvsDC is that I only bought the PS3 earlier this year because of MK2011. Games here in my country cost cca. 75-80 $ and while MKvsDC is an older game and it's probably available for a lower price, I'm unemployed at the moment and the new console (which are also above average expensive over here) and MK2011 already bit my wallet hard. I'll probably get it one day though.
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that! I hope you find a job soon and that your wallet becomes obese as soon as possible.
I assumed that the reason you didn't play MKvsDC was simply because you were against the whole concept of the game, which, knowing you, honestly surprised me.
Nephrite Wrote:
As for its gameplay, I've seen lots of clips on YT and while the engine looks fun and it's possible to do custom combos like in MK2011, I really dislike the Test Your Might, Close Combat and Free Fall Combat mechanics as they kind of feel off pace and ruin the momentum. I especially dislike Free Fall Combat, but I won't go deep into that now.
As for its gameplay, I've seen lots of clips on YT and while the engine looks fun and it's possible to do custom combos like in MK2011, I really dislike the Test Your Might, Close Combat and Free Fall Combat mechanics as they kind of feel off pace and ruin the momentum. I especially dislike Free Fall Combat, but I won't go deep into that now.
Some people would agree with you. I personally enjoy this little bits. They are obviously not as amazing as the X-Rays, but, they are essentially the same thing and last only a second or so longer. Maybe it will be one of those things for you that, once you play it, it feels different and fun.
Maybe not, and that's also OK.
Nephrite Wrote:
As for Sonya's bicycle kicks, I do enjoy them, especially in MK4 (plus that fun gibberish that goes with them), and I wouldn't mind seeing them back. I'm not against it, but if I had to choose between the Arc Kick and the Bicycle Kicks, I'd go for the former. It's just that it's a completely new and unique looking move and I feel like it's more appropriate for her since it makes her look more human and less magical and that's how I prefer Sonya. And if it's between Dive Kicks and Bicycle Kicks them I'm definitely in favor of the latter!
As for Sonya's bicycle kicks, I do enjoy them, especially in MK4 (plus that fun gibberish that goes with them), and I wouldn't mind seeing them back. I'm not against it, but if I had to choose between the Arc Kick and the Bicycle Kicks, I'd go for the former. It's just that it's a completely new and unique looking move and I feel like it's more appropriate for her since it makes her look more human and less magical and that's how I prefer Sonya. And if it's between Dive Kicks and Bicycle Kicks them I'm definitely in favor of the latter!
I like my little "supernatural elements" in my Sonya. One of the reasons I really like her as a character, is because she is, indeed, a human, however, she's a special human who happens to summon deadly fire kisses, giant orbs of absolute energy, defy gravity by temporarily flying, create poisonous mists, break you in half with her legs, etc.
I love the Arc Kick, I too feel like it fits her really well and that it's an excellent addition to the "popular MK moves list" out there. That being said, I don't feel it's as fun or impressive as her Bicycle Kicks which makes it so unworthy of being "the move" that replaced them in this game.
It's very cool that Sonya, once again, is one of the characters with the most special moves in the game, but, it pisses me off that they really didn't updated her "Enhanced Dive Kick" to resemble what MKvsDC so gloriously perfected. I mean, they are pretty much the same concept, except less awesome. Her overall Dive Kick should have been the downward Bicycle Kicks. The enhanced version could have made her start from below.
....you know, the more I think about it the angrier I get at them for not doing this.
And I forgot to address this from your last post:
Nephrite Wrote:
Anyway, love playing with her in the new game, although I only recently picked her up and I still have lots of leveling up do do with her. I also enjoy watching her matches on the tourney scene, guys like Riu48, Poto2222 and Morty Seinfeld really do her justice. I don't miss her bicycle kicks like most do, I love the new Arc Kick, I feel like it's much more in nature with her character and it's very unique looking. Love the Military Stance!...
...Her alternate is like a blessing and that's why she gets a plus. It's a nice looking costume (and much more modest than the primary) with it's own distinctive flavour. I also like that's it's actually very different from her primary and thus really is an "alternate" costume, unlike Kung Lao's costumes for example where there's hardly any difference between them.
Anyway, love playing with her in the new game, although I only recently picked her up and I still have lots of leveling up do do with her. I also enjoy watching her matches on the tourney scene, guys like Riu48, Poto2222 and Morty Seinfeld really do her justice. I don't miss her bicycle kicks like most do, I love the new Arc Kick, I feel like it's much more in nature with her character and it's very unique looking. Love the Military Stance!...
...Her alternate is like a blessing and that's why she gets a plus. It's a nice looking costume (and much more modest than the primary) with it's own distinctive flavour. I also like that's it's actually very different from her primary and thus really is an "alternate" costume, unlike Kung Lao's costumes for example where there's hardly any difference between them.
1) I agree that her gameplay is very fun and I particularly love that Military Stance. That being said, I am outraged about her "Kiss of Death" Special move. It's not useless, but, it's really not as fun as it used to be.
I remember my huge fears when Ed and other team members confirmed in interviews that Sonya, this time around, was going to be a lot less accessible than her previous incarnations and one of the most hardcore characters to master. My fears were that I wasn't going to enjoy her gameplay as much (because I was going to have a hard time mastering her) or that they would screw up her specials and make them useful only if you were playing at high level.
Thankfully, none of those two things happened...except for the "Kiss". The stun time-effect is so ridiculous! The opponent is stun for, like, half a second! And the amount of slow frames that take place before she even executes her awesome Kiss is too much! By the time she is done moving the first hand (which throws mist that for some reason is useless) I'm already being punished.
I don't get why they haven't buffed that one up, considering all the other buffs they have given everyone else...and her nerfs.
And 2) regarding her alternate, I agree. Love your comments on that one!
Nephrite Wrote:
Thanks for the lovely comment on my new sig. It is kinda simple, but it took me hours to make it lol. I haven't done anything in Photoshop in ages and I was like "Well, what am I supposed to do now?" when I started it last night lol. I'm very amateur-ish with photo editing though.
Oh and, I was without internet access for a week due to technical difficulties, but I read your PM response and checked that "latest patch thread" and it's all OK now! Good job!
Thanks for the lovely comment on my new sig. It is kinda simple, but it took me hours to make it lol. I haven't done anything in Photoshop in ages and I was like "Well, what am I supposed to do now?" when I started it last night lol. I'm very amateur-ish with photo editing though.
Oh and, I was without internet access for a week due to technical difficulties, but I read your PM response and checked that "latest patch thread" and it's all OK now! Good job!
1) I really like it! Plus, that is one of the most awesome and badass Kitana pictures ever.
2) Glad to hear you are back and that all is good! Thanks!
Espio872 Wrote:
Me too, I always considered green her signature color, I think the green looks way better, but I wouldn't mind if they compromised next game and gave her the green as her primary color and red as the alternate color.
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Nice photoshopped renders there. I prefer the green MK4 outfit though.
Nice photoshopped renders there. I prefer the green MK4 outfit though.
Me too, I always considered green her signature color, I think the green looks way better, but I wouldn't mind if they compromised next game and gave her the green as her primary color and red as the alternate color.
I, on the other hand, have always thought that red suits her better. It's really worked perfectly her well (all the way back since MK1), however, green is definitely her default color and I like it.
Problem is, in MK9, they really did fail to give her a more "impressive" and "attractive" shade of green. It's too dark and her second green color for the primary is not any better. They failed to do something more interesting with her color:
Also, Sonya's primary green hasn't been as predominant since MKDA i her costumes. Her MKDA primary, alt, MKvsDC and alt in MK9 go more of the black, white, and cream colors.
Would love it if they brought "red" back as an alternative color for Sonya, or as part of the primary.
TomTaz Wrote:
Yep.. I agree with Queve.. that is definitely the one that needs to be done if Sonya gets a classic costume for DLC. Excellent work there man, it's perfect.
Yep.. I agree with Queve.. that is definitely the one that needs to be done if Sonya gets a classic costume for DLC. Excellent work there man, it's perfect.
I'm actually wishing he tackles more of her other costumes with his skills and talents.
Would love to see how her MKDA costume would look on that particularly hot render of Sonya.
*WINK WINK HINT HINT*
queve Wrote:
I'm actually wishing he tackles more of her other costumes with his skills and talents.
Would love to see how her MKDA costume would look on that particularly hot render of Sonya.
*WINK WINK HINT HINT*
I'm actually wishing he tackles more of her other costumes with his skills and talents.
Would love to see how her MKDA costume would look on that particularly hot render of Sonya.
*WINK WINK HINT HINT*
At this rate, I'll never get to another KOTW because I'm stuck in the "Sonya Fashion Bonanza" thread...
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