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queve
11/16/2010 03:30 PM (UTC)
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Locusta Wrote:
She'd be perfect with a corset like garment and a long backskirt, but mayb that' would suit Kitana more.

Less skin and more leather I think is needed. She looks silly imo, especially with that pose. Her freak effect is diminished with this Vogue lack of style.


A corset would had been wonderful for Kitana and it would be glorious for Sindel.

I can't believe I haven't really put that much thought into the crazy and original possibilities that a corset can deliver for a truly amazing design.

Sindel, Mileena, Jade, and Kitana can all benefit from a corset, but, I would much rather see it on Sindel and/or Mileena.








And of course, they would look much better than all of those but those pictures are just to give a basic idea of the awesome possibilities of a well done MK-style corset.

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I don't understand how her outfit design is lack of creativity. It is obviously spawning from her MKD alternate outfit which in turn was spawned from the original leotard outfit from her earlier appearances, albeit more revealing. Her alternate outfit in MKD was the most revealing outfit in Mortal Kombat's history and it was a beacon for Mileena's personality which finally started to prosper and become something more than just "the evil clone". She was showing that having a sexuality and using it as means to an end is something that some assassins make use of rather than just being the typical shadow ninja assassin type which MK already has an overflood of. I like to believe that Mileena was definately using her skills as a temptress to convince Baraka to meet her in the Beetle's Lair, but because he knows Mileena all too well, he sent a decoy.

It is not lack of creativity that has spawned this outfit. But indeed it was to prove a point. In a game like Mortal Kombat things are exaggerated to show certain aspects of a character, because unlike RPG's, the fighting game genre is short on ways to show the personalities of the characters. Mortal Kombat has always been rich on lore, but it has mostly been told only through text-based means, such as background stories and character bios. The visual aspect of the game is also the very game itself - the fighting! And to show a character's background through the fighting is not an easy task. Actually, in the past, many characters in fighting games looked rather dull and you couldn't really tell how a character was like or his/her background by looking at the character fighting.

That is what Netherrealm Studios clearly attempt to make up for, having a past with palette swapped characters that didn't tell much of a story visually. The creative designs of the MK characters this time around proves that they can indeed tell a character's story and show his/her personality through the very visuals of the fighting aspect of a game to mirror the text-based information we get from background stories, endings and character bios. And personally, I think they did exactly that with Mileena. The way she dresses, the way she moves and behaves while fighting, it really shows how she is as a character, because it is indeed exaggerated. They try to prove a point. And they did well in my opinion.


Beautiful post.

I really do understand your views and I can agree with most of what you said.

However, I'd just like to point out that the reason many people think this new costume is uncreative is because so much more could had been done to it.

They could had still proved their point regarding Mileena with a design that features more than just lines and straps covering her almost revealed body. This is definitely not an ugly or bad design, it's just seriously lacking originality.

I feel that most people here expect something more original and detailed for Mileena considering the acclaim she got thanks to her MKD costume. Take a look back at MKD: That costume definitely proves a point. It makes Mileena's point quite clear while retaining a superb attention to originality and uniqueness.

TheDarkPrince Wrote:
Ricochetmatt Wrote:
You can be sexy and not be naked. Just an FYI.

Not in th MK universe!grin
Every female is pretty much half naked.


Sonya seriously disagrees with you.

StevenTaing Wrote:


aren't Kitana's bangs similar in the MK vs DC and MK9?

and as a side note... i think its super hot when girls have bangs like that.


Agreed. Bangs are just super sexy. I absolutely love bangs in woman (and men).





PS: Kitana's bangs in MKvsDC were horrible. She looks much better in this one and her bangs actually look kind of similar in the fashion of Sonya's in MKvsDC (which were perfect). Just a lil bit.

...I'm going to be pissed if Sonya doesn't have her MKvsDC bangs again.

WeaponTheory Wrote:
LucaTurilli Wrote:
WeaponTheory Wrote:
And I'm pretty sure there are, but they're obviously not in this thread.


Gonna have to attribute that to you being unable to recognize them. Them being more comprehensive than you, and all.


"Oh noes, I hate Mileena's outfit, she looks like a whore, I rather have her Deception outfit BAAAAAWWWW."
/Thread.

Riiiiight.


Guys, please stop this argument or just take it to PM's. We don't need this. Thanks.
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FROST4584
11/16/2010 05:30 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
Locusta Wrote:
She'd be perfect with a corset like garment and a long backskirt, but mayb that' would suit Kitana more.

Less skin and more leather I think is needed. She looks silly imo, especially with that pose. Her freak effect is diminished with this Vogue lack of style.


A corset would had been wonderful for Kitana and it would be glorious for Sindel.

I can't believe I haven't really put that much thought into the crazy and original possibilities that a corset can deliver for a truly amazing design.

Sindel, Mileena, Jade, and Kitana can all benefit from a corset, but, I would much rather see it on Sindel and/or Mileena.








And of course, they would look much better than all of those but those pictures are just to give a basic idea of the awesome possibilities of a well done MK-style corset.

Jaded-Raven Wrote:


I don't understand how her outfit design is lack of creativity. It is obviously spawning from her MKD alternate outfit which in turn was spawned from the original leotard outfit from her earlier appearances, albeit more revealing. Her alternate outfit in MKD was the most revealing outfit in Mortal Kombat's history and it was a beacon for Mileena's personality which finally started to prosper and become something more than just "the evil clone". She was showing that having a sexuality and using it as means to an end is something that some assassins make use of rather than just being the typical shadow ninja assassin type which MK already has an overflood of. I like to believe that Mileena was definately using her skills as a temptress to convince Baraka to meet her in the Beetle's Lair, but because he knows Mileena all too well, he sent a decoy.

It is not lack of creativity that has spawned this outfit. But indeed it was to prove a point. In a game like Mortal Kombat things are exaggerated to show certain aspects of a character, because unlike RPG's, the fighting game genre is short on ways to show the personalities of the characters. Mortal Kombat has always been rich on lore, but it has mostly been told only through text-based means, such as background stories and character bios. The visual aspect of the game is also the very game itself - the fighting! And to show a character's background through the fighting is not an easy task. Actually, in the past, many characters in fighting games looked rather dull and you couldn't really tell how a character was like or his/her background by looking at the character fighting.

That is what Netherrealm Studios clearly attempt to make up for, having a past with palette swapped characters that didn't tell much of a story visually. The creative designs of the MK characters this time around proves that they can indeed tell a character's story and show his/her personality through the very visuals of the fighting aspect of a game to mirror the text-based information we get from background stories, endings and character bios. And personally, I think they did exactly that with Mileena. The way she dresses, the way she moves and behaves while fighting, it really shows how she is as a character, because it is indeed exaggerated. They try to prove a point. And they did well in my opinion.


Beautiful post.

I really do understand your views and I can agree with most of what you said.

However, I'd just like to point out that the reason many people think this new costume is uncreative is because so much more could had been done to it.

They could had still proved their point regarding Mileena with a design that features more than just lines and straps covering her almost revealed body. This is definitely not an ugly or bad design, it's just seriously lacking originality.

I feel that most people here expect something more original and detailed for Mileena considering the acclaim she got thanks to her MKD costume. Take a look back at MKD: That costume definitely proves a point. It makes Mileena's point quite clear while retaining a superb attention to originality and uniqueness.

TheDarkPrince Wrote:
Ricochetmatt Wrote:
You can be sexy and not be naked. Just an FYI.

Not in th MK universe!grin
Every female is pretty much half naked.


Sonya seriously disagrees with you.

StevenTaing Wrote:


aren't Kitana's bangs similar in the MK vs DC and MK9?

and as a side note... i think its super hot when girls have bangs like that.


Agreed. Bangs are just super sexy. I absolutely love bangs in woman (and men).





PS: Kitana's bangs in MKvsDC were horrible. She looks much better in this one and her bangs actually look kind of similar in the fashion of Sonya's in MKvsDC (which were perfect). Just a lil bit.

...I'm going to be pissed if Sonya doesn't have her MKvsDC bangs again.

WeaponTheory Wrote:
LucaTurilli Wrote:
WeaponTheory Wrote:
And I'm pretty sure there are, but they're obviously not in this thread.


Gonna have to attribute that to you being unable to recognize them. Them being more comprehensive than you, and all.


"Oh noes, I hate Mileena's outfit, she looks like a whore, I rather have her Deception outfit BAAAAAWWWW."
/Thread.

Riiiiight.


Guys, please stop this argument or just take it to PM's. We don't need this. Thanks.

Queve those are the outfits Mileena and Kitana should have had. Not the current outfits, which show too much skin. Kitana and Mileena look to out of character.The top one is my favorite type of outfit .I wish Kitana and Mileena could have had.
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Jaded-Raven
11/16/2010 05:36 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:



What an odd coincedence. Just the other night, I drew a Jade fanart with a corset piece and gloves almost exactly like that. :o
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crimsonholocaust
11/16/2010 08:57 PM (UTC)
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StevenTaing Wrote:
crimsonholocaust Wrote:
I must say, even though I'm gay, Mileena is HOT. <3

Also, on Kitana, I'm not really liking her look in the game. I love her unmasked look from Deadly Alliance and even from MK vs DC. I don't like the straight bangs look.


aren't Kitana's bangs similar in the MK vs DC and MK9?

and as a side note... i think its super hot when girls have bangs like that.


I thought her bangs in MK vs DC were to the side, not straight down.
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Jaded-Raven
11/16/2010 09:22 PM (UTC)
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crimsonholocaust Wrote:
StevenTaing Wrote:
crimsonholocaust Wrote:
I must say, even though I'm gay, Mileena is HOT. <3

Also, on Kitana, I'm not really liking her look in the game. I love her unmasked look from Deadly Alliance and even from MK vs DC. I don't like the straight bangs look.


aren't Kitana's bangs similar in the MK vs DC and MK9?

and as a side note... i think its super hot when girls have bangs like that.


I thought her bangs in MK vs DC were to the side, not straight down.


Judge for yourself.


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NoobSaibot5
11/16/2010 10:01 PM (UTC)
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The more I look at Mileena's current outfit, the more it reminds me of a design concept I drew of her MK:D alternate outfit years ago. At the time I thought it was a bit trashy and needed a bit of a make over so I incorporated some fishnet gloves and a bit more covered up skin so her outfit was more reminiscent of her MK2 look. You can tell I was 15 at the time with how bad the proportion was! lol



I'd love to see a look like this come in where the outfit has a sexy look to it, some attitude, and it stands out, without completely exposing the girls wearing them. Sex appeal isn't how much flesh you can show off, Mileena just seems like a bit of a tart with straps of fabric covering her up, it doesn't flatter her at all in my opinion.
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frostkai69
11/16/2010 11:07 PM (UTC)
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i agree she's okay i guess so like cha
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RSK1980
11/17/2010 02:00 AM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
I'm loving all the opinions. I'm glad about this thread.

Anyway, from all of what I've read there are a few things I'd like to say:

1) I'm still very surprised that there are more than 2 comments in a row that state they disliked or hated Mileena's MKD Veil. OMG. Shame. on. you. (j/k).

2) I don't think wearing less makes Mileena "less serious" or "a slut". I personally disagree with such strong words because I just don't see how Mileena (or Kitana and the rest of the Edenian gals) should be called whores. They are all deadly and cool-looking. That doesn't make them whores.

However, I definitely agree that its not fitting for some of them. Dressing like this is something that I can see Mileena, Nitara, Sheeva, and maybe even Kira+Jade pulling off. Definitely not Sindel, Sonya, Kitana, Ashrah, etc.

I just don't understand why we need to scream "whore!" or "slut!" because of an outfit.

How very impolite.

3) I most definitely agree with those users who said that, while this design is nice and all, it definitely lacks the creativity and potential of what any character could deliver.

I guess this is the kind of costume that's just there to make a point. Period.

That's why I'm very very excited and hopefully about her alternate. Its gotta be epic. I'm hoping it resembles her MKD primary style more than anything (big sleeves and veil included).


My whore statement came from the outfit and official website. She's a fictional character so unless stated in the story, no one could prove she is or isn't a whore. But based on the official website, she uses her looks to attract victims. I guess we could call her a black widow instead. But in today's reality, a girl that dresses like that is gonna be called something other than a princess. lol
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11/17/2010 03:08 AM (UTC)
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RSK1980 Wrote:
queve Wrote:
I'm loving all the opinions. I'm glad about this thread.

Anyway, from all of what I've read there are a few things I'd like to say:

1) I'm still very surprised that there are more than 2 comments in a row that state they disliked or hated Mileena's MKD Veil. OMG. Shame. on. you. (j/k).

2) I don't think wearing less makes Mileena "less serious" or "a slut". I personally disagree with such strong words because I just don't see how Mileena (or Kitana and the rest of the Edenian gals) should be called whores. They are all deadly and cool-looking. That doesn't make them whores.

However, I definitely agree that its not fitting for some of them. Dressing like this is something that I can see Mileena, Nitara, Sheeva, and maybe even Kira+Jade pulling off. Definitely not Sindel, Sonya, Kitana, Ashrah, etc.

I just don't understand why we need to scream "whore!" or "slut!" because of an outfit.

How very impolite.

3) I most definitely agree with those users who said that, while this design is nice and all, it definitely lacks the creativity and potential of what any character could deliver.

I guess this is the kind of costume that's just there to make a point. Period.

That's why I'm very very excited and hopefully about her alternate. Its gotta be epic. I'm hoping it resembles her MKD primary style more than anything (big sleeves and veil included).


My whore statement came from the outfit and official website. She's a fictional character so unless stated in the story, no one could prove she is or isn't a whore. But based on the official website, she uses her looks to attract victims. I guess we could call her a black widow instead. But in today's reality, a girl that dresses like that is gonna be called something other than a princess. lol


But it's not today's reality is it wink They're from Outworld... maybe that degree of skankgasm is for classy rich people.... (because I assume they're rich, being Shao Kahn's daughters)
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StevenTaing
11/17/2010 07:55 AM (UTC)
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crimsonholocaust Wrote:
StevenTaing Wrote:
crimsonholocaust Wrote:
I must say, even though I'm gay, Mileena is HOT. <3

Also, on Kitana, I'm not really liking her look in the game. I love her unmasked look from Deadly Alliance and even from MK vs DC. I don't like the straight bangs look.


aren't Kitana's bangs similar in the MK vs DC and MK9?

and as a side note... i think its super hot when girls have bangs like that.


I thought her bangs in MK vs DC were to the side, not straight down.


they are off to the side on MK vs. DC... are they not in MK9? judging by the picture in my sig,.. they look pretty off to the side to me.
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queve
11/17/2010 04:46 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
queve Wrote:



What an odd coincedence. Just the other night, I drew a Jade fanart with a corset piece and gloves almost exactly like that. :o


Sounds lovely. Can we see the pic?

The more I think about it the more I'd love to see one or two of the Edenian babes dressed in an awesome corset (MK-style).

I think Kitana's look in MKSM slightly gave you the impression of a corset (not really, but there was just a lil something about the way it fitted her body that makes you kind of wonder), and maybe that's why it's my favorite look for her (the render, of course).

NoobSaibot5 Wrote:


lovely Mileena Fan Art

I'd love to see a look like this come in where the outfit has a sexy look to it, some attitude, and it stands out, without completely exposing the girls wearing them. Sex appeal isn't how much flesh you can show off, Mileena just seems like a bit of a tart with straps of fabric covering her up, it doesn't flatter her at all in my opinion.


That is a very nice drawing! You have talent.

I don't think Mileena seems like "a tart". Actually, I just generally disagree with people referring to the females as "sluts" or "whores" because of the way they dress. I don't think it's fair or that there should be a problem with their costumes if they show too much skin.

However, I will agree that it definitely doesn't fit some of them and it makes them look cheap/plain/ordinary.

RSK1980 Wrote:
queve Wrote:
I'm loving all the opinions. I'm glad about this thread.

Anyway, from all of what I've read there are a few things I'd like to say:

1) I'm still very surprised that there are more than 2 comments in a row that state they disliked or hated Mileena's MKD Veil. OMG. Shame. on. you. (j/k).

2) I don't think wearing less makes Mileena "less serious" or "a slut". I personally disagree with such strong words because I just don't see how Mileena (or Kitana and the rest of the Edenian gals) should be called whores. They are all deadly and cool-looking. That doesn't make them whores.

However, I definitely agree that its not fitting for some of them. Dressing like this is something that I can see Mileena, Nitara, Sheeva, and maybe even Kira+Jade pulling off. Definitely not Sindel, Sonya, Kitana, Ashrah, etc.

I just don't understand why we need to scream "whore!" or "slut!" because of an outfit.

How very impolite.

3) I most definitely agree with those users who said that, while this design is nice and all, it definitely lacks the creativity and potential of what any character could deliver.

I guess this is the kind of costume that's just there to make a point. Period.

That's why I'm very very excited and hopefully about her alternate. Its gotta be epic. I'm hoping it resembles her MKD primary style more than anything (big sleeves and veil included).


My whore statement came from the outfit and official website. She's a fictional character so unless stated in the story, no one could prove she is or isn't a whore. But based on the official website, she uses her looks to attract victims. I guess we could call her a black widow instead. But in today's reality, a girl that dresses like that is gonna be called something other than a princess. lol


LOL LOL LOL.

True, thankfully though, this is Outworld/Edenia that we are talking about. They have a sort of twisted liberal sense in regards to fashion.

StevenTaing Wrote:
crimsonholocaust Wrote:
StevenTaing Wrote:
crimsonholocaust Wrote:
I must say, even though I'm gay, Mileena is HOT. <3

Also, on Kitana, I'm not really liking her look in the game. I love her unmasked look from Deadly Alliance and even from MK vs DC. I don't like the straight bangs look.


aren't Kitana's bangs similar in the MK vs DC and MK9?

and as a side note... i think its super hot when girls have bangs like that.


I thought her bangs in MK vs DC were to the side, not straight down.


they are off to the side on MK vs. DC... are they not in MK9? judging by the picture in my sig,.. they look pretty off to the side to me.


The bangs are definitely different. They look very ugly and bushy in MKvsDC, she looks much better now.

Strangely though, she looks better in her MKvsDC VS picture than the current new model. IMO.
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Jaded-Raven
11/17/2010 06:15 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
queve Wrote:



What an odd coincedence. Just the other night, I drew a Jade fanart with a corset piece and gloves almost exactly like that. :o


Sounds lovely. Can we see the pic?



I've changed the look now, however, I might have a bunch of Jade drawings coming soon. I just need to scan them in and clean them up... I'm just being a bit lazy lately. XD
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Ninja_Mime
11/18/2010 12:39 AM (UTC)
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This thread.

:|
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Jaded-Raven
11/18/2010 01:35 AM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
This thread.

:|


Whauw. Your post totally altered my world for the better! It is simply amazing how much you contributed to my life with this one single post! It was like an epiphany, like God touched me with his pinky and blew my mind!

/sarcasm

Ever heard the phrase "If you don't have anything good to say, then don't say anything."? You could learn alot by that.
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11/18/2010 01:41 AM (UTC)
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In order to not take up a ton of space on the page, I'm not going to quote you but this is directed towards you Queve.

Again, you have another idea that makes me say, "Why did I never think of that?" Your corset idea for Sindel is amazing. Of course, there would have to be more to it, but I think as a basic idea to work off of, a corset is an awesome idea.
a witty thread and i agree on all counts
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BIG_SYKE19
11/19/2010 05:17 PM (UTC)
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yeah i dont know why girls always have to be half nude in games. there are cool outfits that cover there bodies too













Taki's boobs literally look like Balloons.
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