Let's say that Sektor was indeed a pyromaniac, and had control over fire, which I would be all for, by the way. His moves from his human form could easily be adapted or changed when he was automated. The flamethrower is pretty standard fair. It could've been something like Scorpion's own fire breath, but instead of coming from the mouth, it came from his palms. His missiles could've been normal fireballs that erupted on impact with the target. Who knows, if he could control fire, maybe he could steer it too, giving him the Homing Missile. His teleport, could work a lot like Scorpions.

Cyrax...that name almost sounds like a poison or something. But what if he was the Lin Kuei's leading expert on weapons and trap based combat, using nets, explosives, and hidden throwing blades to fight with his opponents?

I just don't think Sektor as a fire guy is particularly interesting. It doesn't go with his code name like teleportation or tracking would and he only has ONE damn fire move as a robot, and it was originally JUST a fatality, not even a special move until MK3, so I don't have any idea why people latched onto the idea of him as a fire guy.

It's probably 'cause it's easy to imagine fire moves and hard to imagine other stuff for him. It's the lazy way out.

Scorpion, Liu Kang, and Shang Tsung are all heavily fire-based guys already, Human Sektor should have his own unique gimmick.

If this actually is a retelling of the original canon, then, yeah, Smoke should be converted at some point herein. But if they actually intend to go about mucking with the story, Sektor could take him later on and force him into the Tekunin, or Sektor could make his power play for the Lin Kuei earlier than expected, and be initially successful, etc.. Not saying I'd necessarily want to see it that way - although it could make Sub's feud with Sektor a tad more personal - but there's room to shift the timeframe of the automation over a little.

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I keep telling myself to go back and watch that show...then I see Youtube clips and shudder.

I can't help but think that a lot of people saw the old fanart that Aculeus did of a Human Sektor and latched on to the possibility of him being a fire based fighter.

As for Smoke, I almost seeing him becoming a drifter/wild card on Earthrealm after his automation, provided that he doesn't get captured by Khan's extermination squads and thrown into his dungeon as some kind of trophy. If he's going to deal with his automation, I'd almost prefer him doing it on his own. Having him captured by Sektor, Noob Saibot, or Khan would be a case of retreading old ground. Joining the Special Forces with Cyrax would be too easy, same goes with joining a reformed Lin Kuei. I'd just like to see them do something new with him.

Y'know, I agree Cyber-Smoke as a loner is probably better for him than being Subbie's sidekick again or being involved in Sektor or Cyrax's business.

That's why I liked what they were doing with him in Deception/Armageddon. They were hinting at a transformation that, once he got free of Noob, would have seen him become something entirely different from the other cyborgs, some sort of cyber-demon where he's corrupted by the Netherealm's energy, but struggling against it because he's good by nature, it would've been cool to see if they had let the timeline keep going instead of retreading the past like this. I hope they put him back on a path like that one after MK9 is over.
Y'know what it occurs to me would be awesome? If this time, they revealed that when you lose your soul during automation, it doesn't just magically pop back in your body when you get your memories back, your soul has actually physically left your body for the afterlife because as a cyborg, your body is more dead than living. So Subbie can help him get his MIND back, but to get his SOUL back, he actually has to journey to the Netherealm and FIND it and that's his story for MK10, an Orpheus-like journey into the underworld for him to get back what he's lost. That would be pretty damn interesting, I think.

I did a story for Smoke where he becomes reborn in the NetherRealm following his abandonment by Noob Saibot in Ashra's ending. Since the NetherRealm can't hold a soul that, by nature is good and tries to expel it, Smoke should be thrown out. But since his cybernetic body can't move and he's basically rendered comatose, he can't exactly leave. Eventually the energies of the realm combine with his own ability to project himself through smoke clouds, and he gets a brand new body. So he's finally able to leave the NetherRealm, but because of his resurrection there, his outlook is a bit tainted. So he's not really evil or angry like Scorpion, but he's not all good either. He's very much a grey character. And the story from there would be him trying to reestablish just what the hell he actually is. Almost like a cross between Nightmare and Siegfried from Soul Calibur 2.

I must mention that whilst it is cool to see how Smoke goes through these drawbacks while as cyborg, it could be potentially cooler if he shockingly remained human this time. Somebody mentioned how Smoke should be a lone wolf this time instead of joining a clan, but that's what he very much was in Mortal Kombat II as human. If you remember from Shaolin Monks, the only opportunity to work with Smoke was in the Living Forest hideout.I actually support the idea of postponing the automation of Smoke or possibly totally leaving it. He could come into a serious casualty afterwards for instance which would make him live by a machine like Kano does. This way he may retain his cyborg legacy but still be the ninja he never really got to be. Because if he is to be automatized, there won't really be turning back anymore. This is a unique opportunity.As for Sektor, I figured out that he might embrace his cyborg form all that much because he might have not been that spectacular in his human form. He could have had some teleporting and homing projectile moves back then. Razorsedge701, you mentioned that fire element wouldn't be really a part of Sektor's legacy. I must dispute. Many of the Mortal Kombat characters have evolved to what they really are supposed to be as time has passed. Ermac, Bi-Han, Kabal, etc. (With expection of Smoke who has carried his ninja form in parallel with the cyborg form unto the end.)The ninja costumes back in the 2d days were quite simple. For example, Scorpion didn't perform any fire element moves back in MK1 but as everyone connected him to fire by some minor details such as his yellow costume he eventually got fire moves. The same goes with Sektor, his costume is mostly red (like with Iron Man) and in some players' simple logic it means he must plunge fire. That's where it eventually gone with that and some other meager reasons.Seeing Sektor in his human form would actually feel logical in a way. We have always known Sektor as a lethal killing machine with no heart so this would be a good chance to introduce him before he turned into such a tyrant. Very similar with what they done with Superman's most dangerous enemy (who ultimately kills him) in Smallville, which goes back in time of the story; they had a chance to introduce Doomsday with his personal thoughts and feelings. It's pretty safe to say that Cyrax's human form did specialize in spider moves. First of all, Cyrax has this web move but also his teleport move refers to straddle carriers who detach their limbs (legs) in a tight situation. Our black-skinned ninja is also in the same color with common spiders.

smoke should be human, yes he only has a good story is only good as a cyborg but they could give him a story as a human and odds are alot of robo smoke supporters are gonna switch sides because of it. i think he should look like his cyber demon costume but with skin instead of smoke, i think that human sektor is just a what if like human smoke in mk3, not real just a memory

It really wouldnt matter to me whether smoke is human or not i hope he has his axe back..Plus if sektor went human i wouuld be shocked

Dude should just be an amorphous cloud of smoke.

He'd have the most incredible mix-ups ever.

A small victory for Human Smoke, superb.That's why I like to call Smoke the Silver Ninja opposed to Scorpion the Golden Ninja. "Silver Ninja" has also a connection to the metallic cyborgs.

Nanites are a better weapon than fog is. They replaced his power with a superior version. They're microscopic robots. They don't just make clouds and choke people, they can also repair his wounds or transform his whole body into a cloud form, which is what his MKD/A "body made of smoke" costume is all about. And that's what he used to convert people into demons when he and Noob attacked the Lin Kuei in MKA. He filled their bodies with his nanobots and changed them.

if i had to guess based on sub zero's method of delivering his super power being a chi ball, then i would say cyrax had an exploding chi ball and sektor had a fire chi ball. smoke perhaps couldn't harness his chi as well as the others so he had bad ass weapons and of course smoke bombs to teleport.

According to Mythologies, Sub-Zero's power works by drawing moisture out of the air.

Like Frozone in The Incredibles. Or Iceman in the X-Men. Or anybody with ice powers in comics, really.

^thats right, so maybe cyrax could harness all the high volatility particles to create this ball of super unstable combustible gas and sektor the same only his ball would ignite as soon as he creates it.

Hrmm...let's try another angle:

Liu Kang already throws balls of fire out of his hands.

Every character's moves should be unique.

^youre right. well, maybe thats why these guys were perfect candidates for cybernetics then to one up liu kangs fire balls by weaponizing their own. let me think, stand by.

Edit: didnt mean to highjack this thread with human cyrax and sektor speculation, so back to human smoke speculation.

Second Edit: human smoke moves, teleport similar to scorpion but initiated with a smoke bomb thrown at his feet and then he falls from the top instead of from the opposite side of the screen. Projectile one, single ninja star or shuriken at ground level. Projectile two multiple shuriken fired in three different angles (air attack killer). Projectile three, smoke cloud that stuns opponent, thrown from a little pouch on his belt or something.

I should find my old Smoke thread and copy/paste the look I'd want for his human look. Also, I think Cyborg Smoke (since he looks like he might be DLC rather than a character slot) should be the most sleek looking of all three cyborgs. Since he strikes me as a stealth based fighter, as well as being the last of the top Lin Kuei assassins to be automated, he should also be the most state-of-the-art. And sleek, I mean Adam Jensen-Deus Ex 3- arms sleek. Black and silver, nice rounded edges, maybe purple glowing eyes.

Paths for Human Smoke to go after barely avoiding the automation:1. Smoke could join now the Forces of Light and stay with them for some time. But later, in a critical situation, where Raiden is about to end the Outworld empire once and for all (something similar to Vegeta in DBZ), Smoke would turn his back to the Forces of Light showing that he would have turned evil anyway.
2. In Mortal Kombat 10, Smoke could have a serious injury which would force him to rely on cybernetics he thought he avoided and what he hated. Smoke would still be a ninja but like Kano or Kabal and become an obdurated desperado. He obtained his cyborg legacy aback.
3. He could simply remain good and allow people to see who he is in his own personality. He could for example become a sidekick for Sub-Zero or have a friendship towards him similar to what Kung Lao is to Liu Kang.
4. Smoke has fought with his identies now for a while and even in his ninja form he may have two separate forms (human body and fog demon); he would now become more chaotic and join the forces of Chaos, eventually showing up as a Lord of Chaos.There are possibilities.

The way I'd like to see Smoke portrayed is in more of a ragged costume, almost like he just took scraps of clothing and made parts of his attire.

His mask would be more of a turban, like the persian Hassassins used to wear. Grey in color and would cover everything except his eyes.

His arms would be all wrapped up in grey-ish white straps that went down from the bottom half of his biceps and over his hands, with a few loose strands hanging here and there. His feet would be the same, with wrappings around his toes, ankles, reaching up to his calves, his pants tucked into the wrappings as well.

The pants would be black, made of wool and have a grey smoke pattern on each leg. The belt around his waist would be a simple, long grey sash.

His top would almost look like a trenchcoat with the sleeves cut off and tailored around the legs. So it almost looks like the traditional top that Sub-Zero or Scorpion wear, but much longer. It would be a matching black like the pants with grey trim along the edges and chinese lettering going down the sides and back.

Smoke's skin would be ash grey and his eyes would be inverted colors with white irises and black eyes.

I think the ragged clothing and loose straps can fit well with the character and his powers. Of course, my version of Smoke would use his powers and the sashes on his arms as offensive weapons.

For Smoke's powers, I did end up thinking of Scorpion but applying them differently.

He also has a teleport, but unlike Scorpion who uses it to ambush from behind, Smoke can teleport through a cloud of smoke towards his opponent, closing the distance, with a free grab. And it can be modified by which button you press with the command sequence to change it from moving forward, to at an upward angle for air grabs and combos.

Smoke would also have a quick mist ability that let's him become incorporal for a split second to avoid a single projectile.

His arm sash would act like a long distance launcher where it extends forward under the opponent, wraps itself around their leg and with yank, Smoke launches the person upwards.

His final move is a free teleport around the arena. Based on what kick button you hit, he can teleport forward, backwards, or up at an angle.

Smoke should stay Good. His whole botched Cyborg story is that he is at heart Good. If he does stay Human that should be built on.

One thing is for sure though which way they take him they should not let him just be a plot device again. If he stays Human I want him to be something more than just Kuai Lang's best friend [that was never followed up on. He was more interested in saving Bi-Han/Noob in MKD] and not just to get us to care about Cyrax, Sektor and the whole Lin Kuei autmoted Ninja bit [If Boon can't get those two over without constantly sacrificing Smoke then they're a complete failure as characters and should be scrapped]

I like how boob said that some cyborgs might not be ninjas. Sektor and Cyrax are gonna be robots and it looks like Smoke(my favorite character) is gonna stay human.

Maybe when Smoke and Younger Sub-Zero flee from the temple they run into Raiden on his way to find warriors. I could see it.

But I'm excited as shit to see Smoke in it in any form.

New Human Smoke Art in Weekend

I'll publish a new artwork that will this time be about Human Smoke sometime in the weekend. I've actually drawn it a lot before these Smoke discussions but decided to publish it now. In the mean time, be sure check out my other recently released artworks in MK Fan Submission Discussion.

Yeah, I don't see there anything wrong in toying with the possible future of Human Smoke. You may even come up with some serious storylines with it. Cyborg Smoke may or may not be involved in the new game but if you have an opposable view of Smoke's storyline, you may want to read my post in Ed states some potential DLC choices (pg 11). There is also an interesting post by Shadaloo in which he created new plot twists for Smoke.

I have posted new special moves in the original post for Smoke, what do you think of them?