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RazorsEdge701
02/15/2011 07:06 PM (UTC)
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Rape is the only thing they haven't put on the table so far.


Not true.

Kahn x Sindel is rape. Mind control is not consent.
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02/15/2011 07:06 PM (UTC)
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Bezou, I think the problem lies within the notion that people though Bo' was supposed to be funny. No, he wasn't, not for me for example and Boon HAS stated that they wanted to have a character that is a slob. BRC is a slob, not a caricature of overweight people in the first place.

I don't buy the biological explanation for the Zaterrans, and since they evolved from immigrant reptilids from our world, that would further prove that they are indeed vomiting acid. Magical acid mind you, and even then, the effects are the same. Someone puking mouth to mouth.

In -I guess- unintentional coincidental ingenuity, him acting like a slob and free is actually close to what the chinese mentor archetype is. Burping for example is absolutely commonplace in Japan after a good meal, yet, we shun it.

Also flatulence isn't as segregated, but this is way beyond MK. Point is, tone down these effects, and basically you have the jovial mentor. And since MK is fantasy why the hell wouldn't alcohol actually help Cho? (try Liu He Ba Fa or Zui Quan drunk you fall flat on your face. Drunken fighting requires coordination and no smal amounts of "dancing").

I think we should either discuss it separately, or close this inside this thread.
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jonny7511
02/15/2011 07:08 PM (UTC)
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wow noob is looking to be an awesome character! cant wait to play as him... i thought at first he turned into ermac but then i realized it was tag team har har! stop complaining people this shit looks awesome!
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Trini_Bwoi
02/15/2011 07:09 PM (UTC)
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Can you guys imagine what a Noob+Noob tag team is gonna be like?!
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unseenwombat
02/15/2011 07:10 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
unseenwombat Wrote:
Rape is the only thing they haven't put on the table so far.


Not true.

Kahn x Sindel is rape. Mind control is not consent.
I was, of course referring to fatalities and x-rays. But I think you knew that.
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RazorsEdge701
02/15/2011 07:10 PM (UTC)
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unseenwombat Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
unseenwombat Wrote:
Rape is the only thing they haven't put on the table so far.


Not true.

Kahn x Sindel is rape. Mind control is not consent.
I was, of course referring to fatalities and x-rays. But I think you knew that.


So if someone puked in a cutscene, you'd be okay with it because you're only talking about gameplay?
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02/15/2011 07:12 PM (UTC)
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Great stuff! Noob looks VERY good...way better than I expected. And the Graveyard is back! I love that stage.
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unseenwombat
02/15/2011 07:13 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
unseenwombat Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
unseenwombat Wrote:
Rape is the only thing they haven't put on the table so far.


Not true.

Kahn x Sindel is rape. Mind control is not consent.
I was, of course referring to fatalities and x-rays. But I think you knew that.


So if someone puked in a cutscene, you'd be okay with it because you're only talking about gameplay?
Not necessarily. So on the other side of the coin let me ask you, if they put a graphic rape fatality/x ray in, you'd be okay with it because it's already been implied with Khan and Sindel?
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02/15/2011 07:14 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:

And I got no problem with saying "Rain should be in because he's a UMK3 character", but saying Noob debuted in UMK3 or Trilogy is lying. Noob Saibot debuted in MK2. The word "debut" means first appearance.


And the phrase "playable debut" means something entirely different, hence why I said that. This is Noob as he was in MKT, moveset-wise (more or less).
All I'm asking is that Rain get the same treatment, as he's had his own, unique playstyle (one I happen to love) for as long as Noob has. That's what I was saying- not that the characters have both existed the same amount of time.
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As a playable character, Noob and Rain debuted simultaneously.

Not even, really. Noob was playable, albeit with no moves, in UMK3 Wavenet. Rain still wasn't.
Guessing you missed where I already mentioned wavenet? Or that my point is about debuts as characters with their own moves- not just first appearances. If we want to talk "first appearances," Rain is technically in UMK3 (a point I would never bring up without being prompted)
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02/15/2011 07:14 PM (UTC)
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Noob Saibot looks epic as all hell, cant believe how smooth his gameplay seems, cant wait to try him out. I LOVE his x-ray as well!! This is already my fave game of all time and its not even out yet :p
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Lopata991
02/15/2011 07:15 PM (UTC)
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Lol like his X-Ray a lot but what if he does it on reptile Bye Bye Leg :D
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Icebaby
02/15/2011 07:15 PM (UTC)
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*Ahem*


FUCKING NOOB'S GOT HIS PROJECTILE BACK?!?!? FUCKING AWESOME! YEAH AND THE MOVES HE'S GOT... OMIGOSH!!!! LIKE... WOW! LIKE... I'M FREAKING WET!!!


Kidding abou the wet thing... Did I say that?

Yeah, excitement over... This guy is gonna be great. Very unique set of moves I will say that. His clones are back, hell his teleport slam is back.

Aww, they did this guy right.
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WarriorPrincess
02/15/2011 07:16 PM (UTC)
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Bleh, quite the disappointment considering they hyped it up as
being something so huge! Eh, whatever! I'm a not Noob Saibot
fan so this reveal does nothing for me. What I do wanna know,
however, is how in the hell is Jade vomiting while her mask is
still very much on her face? Or has no one noticed this? lmao
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stinky_thc_cloud
02/15/2011 07:17 PM (UTC)
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please tell me that fucking cloud move is out. I like noob but in mk3 he had some broken ass moves, his piledriver thing looks more blanaded this time around. but i hope we dont see that cloud move.

For people who know noob what with his projectile. I dont recognise that?


.... tell me its not the cloud.

i hope he gets a story video, weird how they showed us his combo video befor stroy, hes the first
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looktolaluna
02/15/2011 07:18 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
*Ahem*


FUCKING NOOB'S GOT HIS PROJECTILE BACK?!?!? FUCKING AWESOME! YEAH AND THE MOVES HE'S GOT... OMIGOSH!!!! LIKE... WOW! LIKE... I'M FREAKING WET!!!


Kidding abou the wet thing... Did I say that?

Yeah, excitement over... This guy is gonna be great. Very unique set of moves I will say that. His clones are back, hell his teleport slam is back.

Aww, they did this guy right.

ITS FUCKING NOOB SAIBOT MAN!!! Stryker who?
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RazorsEdge701
02/15/2011 07:20 PM (UTC)
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unseenwombat Wrote:
So on the other side of the coin let me ask you, if they put a graphic rape fatality/x ray in, you'd be okay with it because it's already been implied with Khan and Sindel?


No, but I don't have to be okay with it because it would never happen. Graphic sexual/pornographic content is the one thing the ESRB won't allow.

I just want to know where you draw the line on when it is okay to show puke in a video game and when it isn't, because "I'm only talking about X-Rays and Fatalities" is very arbitrary.
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02/15/2011 07:20 PM (UTC)
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stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:
please tell me that fucking cloud move is out. I like noob but in mk3 he had some broken ass moves, his piledriver thing looks more blanaded this time around. but i hope we dont see that cloud move.

For people who know noob what with his projectile. I dont recognise that?


.... tell me its not the cloud.

i hope he gets a story video, weird how they showed us his combo video befor stroy, hes the first


It *is* the Disabler, and I'm thrilled! grin

There's no reason to believe it will be as unbalanced as it was in MKT.
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Icebaby
02/15/2011 07:21 PM (UTC)
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looktolaluna Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
*Ahem*


FUCKING NOOB'S GOT HIS PROJECTILE BACK?!?!? FUCKING AWESOME! YEAH AND THE MOVES HE'S GOT... OMIGOSH!!!! LIKE... WOW! LIKE... I'M FREAKING WET!!!


Kidding abou the wet thing... Did I say that?

Yeah, excitement over... This guy is gonna be great. Very unique set of moves I will say that. His clones are back, hell his teleport slam is back.

Aww, they did this guy right.

ITS FUCKING NOOB SAIBOT MAN!!! Stryker who?


Nah, it only works for Stryker because it's fucking Stryker.

I would have said, "It's fucking Noob," but yet again, I see that he's being called with his last name in tact. I mean sure yeah he never lost the name, but I always had that feeling that he did.

So it's just Noob... Adding "fucking" to it would be just "you fucking noob."

Speaking of fucking noobs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8CbrQdfDaU

I'm too lazy to make it a link. But it's got a part two as well!
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02/15/2011 07:22 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
FUCKING NOOB'S GOT HIS PROJECTILE BACK?!?!?

Aww, they did this guy right.
I'm actually dreading the fact he has that broken ass projectile back.




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02/15/2011 07:24 PM (UTC)
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drpvfx Wrote:
How so?
Is this game using Jade or Smoke (or Noob) as they were in MKII?
Reptile as he was in MK1?
No- the characters are based off their playable debut.
And if you want to strip "Playable" from the argument,
Rain should still be included in any game that includes characters from UMK3 wink

So far, they have been going by first appearances, not playable appearances. We know this because the Pit Bio revealed in the fall mentions Reptile's job at the bottom of the pit. It's possible they may not approach all the hidden characters this way, but I don't see that happening.



So you really think Jade, Smoke, and Noob will be mindless drones with no personalities? That's pretty much how they were in MKII...
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Jaded-Raven
02/15/2011 07:26 PM (UTC)
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drpvfx Wrote:Jade... mindless drone... no personalities...


I would kick you in the gonads if you had any! ;P
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stinky_thc_cloud
02/15/2011 07:30 PM (UTC)
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ughh i hope they modify the disabler. If not people will spam it like hell online, to the point of it not being fun. Please NRS! superman and the flash are gone you dont need to make another broken character.

My only real compalint about this game sofar.. heres to hoping or hopeing rather? how the fuck do you spell that lol
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Icebaby
02/15/2011 07:31 PM (UTC)
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Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
FUCKING NOOB'S GOT HIS PROJECTILE BACK?!?!?

Aww, they did this guy right.
I'm actually dreading the fact he has that broken ass projectile back.






I have a feeling its just for his X-Ray since the video doesn't show him whipping out the cloud anywhere else. But the fact that he still has it, even in the X-Ray itself, is just pure awesomeness!
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unseenwombat
02/15/2011 07:31 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
unseenwombat Wrote:
So on the other side of the coin let me ask you, if they put a graphic rape fatality/x ray in, you'd be okay with it because it's already been implied with Khan and Sindel?


No, but I don't have to be okay with it because it would never happen. Graphic sexual/pornographic content is the one thing the ESRB won't allow.

I just want to know where you draw the line on when it is okay to show puke in a video game and when it isn't, because "I'm only talking about X-Rays and Fatalities" is very arbitrary.
Then you're lucky that you only have a puke fetish and not a rape one. In any event, merely implying in story mode that Khan had his way with Sindel through mind control (and it wasn't even THAT explicit. It only said she was "his wife," not that they consummated anything) is a far cry from reenacting part of 2girls1cup in a fatality.

As for when it's "okay" to show puke, as for me, I would prefer never. Just like I'd prefer not to see them performing other bodily functions other than fighting. If, like in the non-consensual sex scenario mentioned above, they want to imply that someone threw up, that would be a-ok with me.

How's that for an answer? Though I think you're just trying to make a point and don't really even care about my answer.
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02/15/2011 07:32 PM (UTC)
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drpvfx Wrote:Jade... mindless drone... no personalities...


I would kick you in the gonads if you had any! ;P


It's true though. Jade, Smoke and Noob had absolutely no story or personality in their debut in MKII. Unless you count loving to throw you as a personality.
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