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12/12/2010 05:05 AM (UTC)
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On that note, has anybody ever really looked at the MK Team members? Don't they just LOOK like shady characters? Names like "Hans Lo", "Hector Sanchez", "Ed Boon"...sound like rejected codenames for the Expendables...

I'm just saying...

Okay,now somebody has to photoshoop together an Expendables poster,except with NRS team members.

MAKE IT SO
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12/12/2010 05:08 AM (UTC)
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well one thing im happy about is that scorpion owned sub-zero in thats scene but when kratos came i got turned off sleep o.O
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12/12/2010 05:10 AM (UTC)
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Whoever said that he's probably gonna be DLC, I agree with you, y'all. I don't think he'll be in the main cast for an MK game. He better not be.
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12/12/2010 05:12 AM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
Hey! A new Kratos game is coming out! They even decided to put some Mortal Kombat characters in it!

... I buy a MK game for the MK fighters, story, and universe. If I wanted to play as Kratos killing things... I'd just play God of War.

Kratos officially just upstaged the entire game MK crew, and I can't say I like Quan Chi's stunt double suddenly being a bigger deal and selling point than Sub-Zero and Scorpion.


See this is what I think drives the ideology behind the "Keep MK about MK" that we members here are so passionate about. It's basically reading into the projected vision of Netherrealm Studios regarding the integrity of the MK IP. Fans of the series are practically cannibalizing each other with rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth fervor begging NRS to take the character depth, lore, and gameplay to "the next level" of meticulous refinement and execution. In short, they want their beloved series to be AAA status and evolve.

So when you invite such a prominent AAA franchise character like Kratos into your IP, even if he draws in players unfamiliar to the MK series (which he undoubtedly will) not only does he steal the spotlight, he cheapens those cast in his shadow.

Seriously if Ed Boon is fantasizing about a period in time where Scorpion stepping onto the screen in a God of War game resonates, then you don't give Scorpion (or any MK icon) cred by "borrowing" from someone else's IP.

You want people to "ooh and aaah" about Scorpion? Then you cement him as a iconic character through gameplay, design, evolution, and presentation. You don't get cred by casting him as Robin in his own game when Batman walks on the scene.
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12/12/2010 05:12 AM (UTC)
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TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
MINION, just because something has things in common with MK does not mean it belongs in MK.
I disagree. Because this is the notion that was thrown around with Stryker. I'm sorry I'm not as Narrow minded, and actually give things a chance. I guess this is one of the reason I have a high tolerance for negativity.


Stryker was made to be an MK character. He literally exists in the MK universe.

Kratos is from a different franchise. No matter how similar in aesthetic that franchise ever gets to MK, it's still NOT MK, it's a DIFFERENT FRANCHISE.

Obviously? I knew this. I'm not saying Kratos was meant to be a MK character. I'm saying he fits in the Universe due to how ruthless he is. Bloodshed is something GoW strives on as does MK with it's Fatality's, Blood & Gore. I could not see a more fitting Guest character. Do I think he should be in every MK game after this one? NO, That would be a selfish state of mind because obvious Kratos belongs to 1 world in which he lives. But for a Guest character it's a perfect opportunity to Strech the character passed Greek Mythology and open up his presence in a new form of Development. It's obvious Jaffe felt strongly about him fitting in thus why he is. Jaffe isn't an easy guy when it comes to his Franchises. We never seen Sweet Tooth in anything outside of Twisted Metal so to see Kratos in MK say's a lot. Granted he was in Soul Calibur. That I can say was not needed, much like Link in SC. I can agree those choices for that game were Ludicrious. But with a Game like MK as violent as it's going to be, I see much enjoyment.


*Yawn* even though it isn't a fighter, just to prove you wrong, I am going to be the guy to point out to you that Sweet Tooth was in Hot Shots Golf 2 for the Play Station

Thanks for reading between the lines. I simply stated "Jaffe" never allowed it. That was Twisted Metal 3 aka 989 Studios Sweet Tooth version when they had the license. So yes, Yawn more please.
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12/12/2010 05:13 AM (UTC)
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Okay, after rewatching the trailer, I'm a little worried.

It just occurred to me that Scorpion's slow-mo spears seems as if it were meant to be viewed in...stereoscopic 3D...
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12/12/2010 05:13 AM (UTC)
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It will look like this but with MK in the artwork and Kratos instead of The Joker.
And the Best Male Performance was Neil Patrick Harris?! Bahahaha ok I own Spider Man Shattered Dimensions and his Voice acting was only ok for Christsakes he wasn't even the best voice in the game or the best spiderman voice. I get it give the host an award and I know The VGA's aren't prestigous but damn I just wish the choices towards who will win aren't Bonkers Crazy-Ass Decisions.

Ugh what a disappointing reveal....

DECEMBER SURPRISE!!!!

Next..Will we get anything for Mortal Monday/Fatality Friday?

I think the only people more pissed this week are the saps still making sure Mileena is number 1 on The Kombat Chat Rankings.
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12/12/2010 05:19 AM (UTC)
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Ion3008 Wrote:
Next..Will we get anything for Mortal Monday/Fatality Friday?

This.

Am I the only one who just sits there,with the forums and the MK twitter tabs open,and just keeps refreshing them like an asshole,hoping that we'll at least get an MKast before the night is over?
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12/12/2010 05:21 AM (UTC)
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I think the only people more pissed this week are the saps still making sure Mileena is number 1 on The Kombat Chat Rankings.


I pity them.
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12/12/2010 05:23 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
I'm not saying Kratos was meant to be a MK character. I'm saying he fits in the Universe


Contradictory. Only MK characters fit the MK universe.

'Course, if you want to get detailed about it, MK doesn't even have the Greek pantheon, they only have their own gods, but I'm not gonna get hung up on how his story would be impossible since he won't even have one in MK. That's not really what I'm talking about. I'm talking about art and integrity and that sort of thing.
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12/12/2010 05:25 AM (UTC)
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Cyborg_Hero Wrote:
TemperaryUserName Wrote:
Cyborg_Hero Wrote:
http://kotaku.com/5712283/kratos-enters-the-arena-of-mortal-kombat

Look at the comments. That doesn't look like an angry mob that doesn't want Kratos in the game to me. Though I guess they don't matter since they don't post on MKO.

Not trying to be an ass, but yes, they don't matter as much. Why would I care about the opinion of someone who probably hasn't played an mk game since Trilogy? They're not thinking about artistic presentation, they're thinking, "hey, I like GoW too!"


Also not to be an ass, but Kotaku has many more members than MKO. Which group is the smart one to market to? A small group of people who will buy the game almost no matter what, or a larger group of people who haven't had MK on their maps in years?


Smartest thing anyone's said so far, and the answer is both. Two markets are better than one.
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12/12/2010 05:25 AM (UTC)
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Trini_Bwoi Wrote:
Okay, after rewatching the trailer, I'm a little worried.

It just occurred to me that Scorpion's slow-mo spears seems as if it were meant to be viewed in...stereoscopic 3D...


It is - MK for the PS3 will support that.

That was confirmed ages ago.
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12/12/2010 05:27 AM (UTC)
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TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
I really dislike this argument people are having about Kratos ruining MK. The Apprentice aka. Starkiller fit in Nicely in SCIV, There was no Balance Issues aside Yoda being to small to hit most of the time. But Kratos is just as Bloodhungry as any MK Character. Hell he Ripped off Helios Head and walked around with it w/o a care in the world. Let it be known if Kratos wanted to he'd merc the F**k out of Shao Kahn. Guareenteed! He's as ruthless if not more in the world he lives. He fits perfectly.


Your SCIV argument about The Apprentice is completely invalid. We aren't saying that he can't handle his own but that there is no point of putting him in if he would have a story completely unrelated. He won't tie in at all especially since it is a retelling of the events.


He is NOT in story mode. Seriously he is just an extra character taking no one's place.
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12/12/2010 05:28 AM (UTC)
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Damn! Damn! Damn! Damn it to HELL!! Oh well, kratos would just be another bastard i'll beat down in the arcade mode, and against players who picks him..furiousconfusedsleep
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12/12/2010 05:28 AM (UTC)
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Smartest thing anyone's said so far, and the answer is both. Two markets is better than one.

So you'd rather people at WB have bigger bonus checks than have an artistically sound product?

K.
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12/12/2010 05:30 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
MINION, just because something has things in common with MK does not mean it belongs in MK.
I disagree. Because this is the notion that was thrown around with Stryker. I'm sorry I'm not as Narrow minded, and actually give things a chance. I guess this is one of the reason I have a high tolerance for negativity.


Stryker was made to be an MK character. He literally exists in the MK universe.

Kratos is from a different franchise. No matter how similar in aesthetic that franchise ever gets to MK, it's still NOT MK, it's a DIFFERENT FRANCHISE.

Obviously? I knew this. I'm not saying Kratos was meant to be a MK character. I'm saying he fits in the Universe due to how ruthless he is. Bloodshed is something GoW strives on as does MK with it's Fatality's, Blood & Gore. I could not see a more fitting Guest character. Do I think he should be in every MK game after this one? NO, That would be a selfish state of mind because obvious Kratos belongs to 1 world in which he lives. But for a Guest character it's a perfect opportunity to Strech the character passed Greek Mythology and open up his presence in a new form of Development. It's obvious Jaffe felt strongly about him fitting in thus why he is. Jaffe isn't an easy guy when it comes to his Franchises. We never seen Sweet Tooth in anything outside of Twisted Metal so to see Kratos in MK say's a lot. Granted he was in Soul Calibur. That I can say was not needed, much like Link in SC. I can agree those choices for that game were Ludicrious. But with a Game like MK as violent as it's going to be, I see much enjoyment.


*Yawn* even though it isn't a fighter, just to prove you wrong, I am going to be the guy to point out to you that Sweet Tooth was in Hot Shots Golf 2 for the Play Station

Thanks for reading between the lines. I simply stated "Jaffe" never allowed it. That was Twisted Metal 3 aka 989 Studios Sweet Tooth version when they had the license. So yes, Yawn more please.


Maybe it was because there weren't many cross overs that they could have put an ice cream truck driver in considering in all of his appearances he was bound to the truck until that mode in the TMHO remake came out where you could run around as Sweet Tooth. Sweet Tooth (as seen through cut scenes, especially TMB) is much more brutal than Kratos. If they didn't think that Quan Chi was enough of a Clown that they didn't need Sweet Tooth maybe we could have a good character as opposed to Quan Chi's sissy Twin Brother that apparently most of the people who are true MK fans are mad about because they don't want guest characters to begin with because MK Vs DC turned out to be absolutely terrible. Now I agree with no guest characters but if they had to put someone in why couldn't they have at least made it someone mildly cool?
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12/12/2010 05:31 AM (UTC)
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RubberChickenMan Wrote:
TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
I really dislike this argument people are having about Kratos ruining MK. The Apprentice aka. Starkiller fit in Nicely in SCIV, There was no Balance Issues aside Yoda being to small to hit most of the time. But Kratos is just as Bloodhungry as any MK Character. Hell he Ripped off Helios Head and walked around with it w/o a care in the world. Let it be known if Kratos wanted to he'd merc the F**k out of Shao Kahn. Guareenteed! He's as ruthless if not more in the world he lives. He fits perfectly.


Your SCIV argument about The Apprentice is completely invalid. We aren't saying that he can't handle his own but that there is no point of putting him in if he would have a story completely unrelated. He won't tie in at all especially since it is a retelling of the events.


He is NOT in story mode. Seriously he is just an extra character taking no one's place.

Thank you! Someone who actually gets it. The backlash on this is Futile. But I'm glad someone recognizes this as well. He's only there to draw in fans of the character who want to enjoy MK and a character from another brand as well. I see no harm in favoring the fans. I'm satisfied. grin
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12/12/2010 05:34 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
Thank you! Someone who actually gets it. The backlash on this is Futile. But I'm glad someone recognizes this as well. He's only there to draw in fans of the character who want to enjoy MK and a character from another brand as well. I see no harm in favoring the fans. I'm satisfied. grin
I seriously don't think many God of War fans will buy this game just to kill people with Kratos. I mean it's pretty redundantconfused
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12/12/2010 05:36 AM (UTC)
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It will look like this but with MK in the artwork and Kratos instead of The Joker.


I REALLY hope so, i don't want Kratos on the Damn Cover too
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12/12/2010 05:38 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
RubberChickenMan Wrote:
TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
I really dislike this argument people are having about Kratos ruining MK. The Apprentice aka. Starkiller fit in Nicely in SCIV, There was no Balance Issues aside Yoda being to small to hit most of the time. But Kratos is just as Bloodhungry as any MK Character. Hell he Ripped off Helios Head and walked around with it w/o a care in the world. Let it be known if Kratos wanted to he'd merc the F**k out of Shao Kahn. Guareenteed! He's as ruthless if not more in the world he lives. He fits perfectly.


Your SCIV argument about The Apprentice is completely invalid. We aren't saying that he can't handle his own but that there is no point of putting him in if he would have a story completely unrelated. He won't tie in at all especially since it is a retelling of the events.


He is NOT in story mode. Seriously he is just an extra character taking no one's place.

Thank you! Someone who actually gets it. The backlash on this is Futile. But I'm glad someone recognizes this as well. He's only there to draw in fans of the character who want to enjoy MK and a character from another brand as well. I see no harm in favoring the fans. I'm satisfied. grin


They could have just made a poster of Kratos in a business suit holding a copy of this game and smiling, and the retarded PS3 community would have bought the game AND not have had to waste time playing as/ playing against people who think guest characters are cool, when they are honestly just a waste of time.

Before you go off on me saying that I don't like PS3 and all this and I only like Xbox, no..... I have a PS3 and I tend to play it somewhat often. Yes there are games I would rather play on my Xbox due to the fact that the online is better (we pay for better online). but I still use it especially to play MK2 so yea.
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12/12/2010 05:40 AM (UTC)
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TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
MINION, just because something has things in common with MK does not mean it belongs in MK.
I disagree. Because this is the notion that was thrown around with Stryker. I'm sorry I'm not as Narrow minded, and actually give things a chance. I guess this is one of the reason I have a high tolerance for negativity.


Stryker was made to be an MK character. He literally exists in the MK universe.

Kratos is from a different franchise. No matter how similar in aesthetic that franchise ever gets to MK, it's still NOT MK, it's a DIFFERENT FRANCHISE.

Obviously? I knew this. I'm not saying Kratos was meant to be a MK character. I'm saying he fits in the Universe due to how ruthless he is. Bloodshed is something GoW strives on as does MK with it's Fatality's, Blood & Gore. I could not see a more fitting Guest character. Do I think he should be in every MK game after this one? NO, That would be a selfish state of mind because obvious Kratos belongs to 1 world in which he lives. But for a Guest character it's a perfect opportunity to Strech the character passed Greek Mythology and open up his presence in a new form of Development. It's obvious Jaffe felt strongly about him fitting in thus why he is. Jaffe isn't an easy guy when it comes to his Franchises. We never seen Sweet Tooth in anything outside of Twisted Metal so to see Kratos in MK say's a lot. Granted he was in Soul Calibur. That I can say was not needed, much like Link in SC. I can agree those choices for that game were Ludicrious. But with a Game like MK as violent as it's going to be, I see much enjoyment.


*Yawn* even though it isn't a fighter, just to prove you wrong, I am going to be the guy to point out to you that Sweet Tooth was in Hot Shots Golf 2 for the Play Station

Thanks for reading between the lines. I simply stated "Jaffe" never allowed it. That was Twisted Metal 3 aka 989 Studios Sweet Tooth version when they had the license. So yes, Yawn more please.


Maybe it was because there weren't many cross overs that they could have put an ice cream truck driver in considering in all of his appearances he was bound to the truck until that mode in the TMHO remake came out where you could run around as Sweet Tooth. Sweet Tooth (as seen through cut scenes, especially TMB) is much more brutal than Kratos. If they didn't think that Quan Chi was enough of a Clown that they didn't need Sweet Tooth maybe we could have a good character as opposed to Quan Chi's sissy Twin Brother that apparently most of the people who are true MK fans are mad about because they don't want guest characters to begin with because MK Vs DC turned out to be absolutely terrible. Now I agree with no guest characters but if they had to put someone in why couldn't they have at least made it someone mildly cool?

Look first and foremost man, I want to point out I don't have nothing against you. I hope we can be friends down the line. But on subject, I have nothing against you or anyone else here who have opinions on this game and characters. I do respect and admire as well as take into consideration what has been stated from both sides of the clause being happy or disappointed. I do think Sweet Tooth would of been alright for MK he's just as ruthless no doubt. But the fact that Sweet Tooth is a clown and a badass one at that. He wouldn't fit due to the lack of Fighting Experience. Kratos is similar to Kahn in that he fights, fights, kills, etc. Needles he just kills and drives around. He has no real experience in anything outside of Knives and Guns to my degree. Just saying Kratos is more built to fight in an MK environment due to the Countless battles he's had with many of the gods and what not.
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12/12/2010 05:41 AM (UTC)
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MKBooted Wrote:
Trini_Bwoi Wrote:
Okay, after rewatching the trailer, I'm a little worried.

It just occurred to me that Scorpion's slow-mo spears seems as if it were meant to be viewed in...stereoscopic 3D...


It is - MK for the PS3 will support that.

That was confirmed ages ago.


Yea that's what I'm saying, which implies that it's a cutscene or something and not just some teaser. So why is Kratos in a cutscene??!!
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12/12/2010 05:44 AM (UTC)
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The more I see people getting upset about this, the more intrigued i am trying to figure out exactly what he's going to look like as an actual MK fighter.

Like I said, I don't personally care for guest characters, I just don't find the point in them whatsoever, but one measly little guest character is not going to hurt the franchise.

So maybe it's a gimmick to pick up more fans than the usual, big deal. It's not like the game is seriously going to circle around one guest character. If he's not in story mode, then what the heck is everyone making a big fuss over? He's going to be taken seriously as a fun character to fool around with... Really, that's the point of his character in this game. If he was to be included in story mode, then yeah, I would be disgruntled, but, I'd live with it because it's not ruining the game in my perspective.

The roster is still incomplete, despite with the leaked sounds, we know who's going to be in this game, does it really matter if one measly character doesn't make it in? And my bets are all on Rain? Seriously, if a character such as him doesn't make it in all because Kratos took that spot, would it really matter?

To me, it wouldn't. Because, using Rain as an example, I never really cared for that character, I never played as that character, and I'm probably never going to play as that character now if I haven't touched him in the past. It wouldn't make that big of a freaking difference if he was to replace one character. They all don't have to come back, and it wouldn't surprise me if all of them didn't, but honest to God, it's a guest character, be thankful that they're not going to make this into another crossover game.

We might be treated to a new level, as someone mentioned, it wouldn't hurt to see something like that be added. I've had a thought that maybe we'd get a destroyed Greece with that giant statue that we had to fight in the second game in the background. Or Helios flying around with Cronus swiping at him in the background. Who knows, we could have various treats from this character and you're all making it like it's the end of the world because one tiny little popular character is in.

Whoopty doo that he was in a different fighting game before this, it's not that big of a deal.
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12/12/2010 05:46 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
MINION, just because something has things in common with MK does not mean it belongs in MK.
I disagree. Because this is the notion that was thrown around with Stryker. I'm sorry I'm not as Narrow minded, and actually give things a chance. I guess this is one of the reason I have a high tolerance for negativity.


Stryker was made to be an MK character. He literally exists in the MK universe.

Kratos is from a different franchise. No matter how similar in aesthetic that franchise ever gets to MK, it's still NOT MK, it's a DIFFERENT FRANCHISE.

Obviously? I knew this. I'm not saying Kratos was meant to be a MK character. I'm saying he fits in the Universe due to how ruthless he is. Bloodshed is something GoW strives on as does MK with it's Fatality's, Blood & Gore. I could not see a more fitting Guest character. Do I think he should be in every MK game after this one? NO, That would be a selfish state of mind because obvious Kratos belongs to 1 world in which he lives. But for a Guest character it's a perfect opportunity to Strech the character passed Greek Mythology and open up his presence in a new form of Development. It's obvious Jaffe felt strongly about him fitting in thus why he is. Jaffe isn't an easy guy when it comes to his Franchises. We never seen Sweet Tooth in anything outside of Twisted Metal so to see Kratos in MK say's a lot. Granted he was in Soul Calibur. That I can say was not needed, much like Link in SC. I can agree those choices for that game were Ludicrious. But with a Game like MK as violent as it's going to be, I see much enjoyment.


*Yawn* even though it isn't a fighter, just to prove you wrong, I am going to be the guy to point out to you that Sweet Tooth was in Hot Shots Golf 2 for the Play Station

Thanks for reading between the lines. I simply stated "Jaffe" never allowed it. That was Twisted Metal 3 aka 989 Studios Sweet Tooth version when they had the license. So yes, Yawn more please.


Maybe it was because there weren't many cross overs that they could have put an ice cream truck driver in considering in all of his appearances he was bound to the truck until that mode in the TMHO remake came out where you could run around as Sweet Tooth. Sweet Tooth (as seen through cut scenes, especially TMB) is much more brutal than Kratos. If they didn't think that Quan Chi was enough of a Clown that they didn't need Sweet Tooth maybe we could have a good character as opposed to Quan Chi's sissy Twin Brother that apparently most of the people who are true MK fans are mad about because they don't want guest characters to begin with because MK Vs DC turned out to be absolutely terrible. Now I agree with no guest characters but if they had to put someone in why couldn't they have at least made it someone mildly cool?

Look first and foremost man, I want to point out I don't have nothing against you. I hope we can be friends down the line. But on subject, I have nothing against you or anyone else here who have opinions on this game and characters. I do respect and admire as well as take into consideration what has been stated from both sides of the clause being happy or disappointed. I do think Sweet Tooth would of been alright for MK he's just as ruthless no doubt. But the fact that Sweet Tooth is a clown and a badass one at that. He wouldn't fit due to the lack of Fighting Experience. Kratos is similar to Kahn in that he fights, fights, kills, etc. Needles he just kills and drives around. He has no real experience in anything outside of Knives and Guns to my degree. Just saying Kratos is more built to fight in an MK environment due to the Countless battles he's had with many of the gods and what not.



I'm a BIG and I mean BIG TM fan. Tho I don't think that Sweet Tooth could ever fit into the Mk world. If you could please give some feed on how/why he would fit that would be cool grin
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