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12/12/2010 05:47 AM (UTC)
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12/12/2010 05:48 AM (UTC)
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The more I see people getting upset about this, the more intrigued i am trying to figure out exactly what he's going to look like as an actual MK fighter.

Like I said, I don't personally care for guest characters, I just don't find the point in them whatsoever, but one measly little guest character is not going to hurt the franchise.

So maybe it's a gimmick to pick up more fans than the usual, big deal. It's not like the game is seriously going to circle around one guest character. If he's not in story mode, then what the heck is everyone making a big fuss over? He's going to be taken seriously as a fun character to fool around with... Really, that's the point of his character in this game. If he was to be included in story mode, then yeah, I would be disgruntled, but, I'd live with it because it's not ruining the game in my perspective.

The roster is still incomplete, despite with the leaked sounds, we know who's going to be in this game, does it really matter if one measly character doesn't make it in? And my bets are all on Rain? Seriously, if a character such as him doesn't make it in all because Kratos took that spot, would it really matter?

To me, it wouldn't. Because, using Rain as an example, I never really cared for that character, I never played as that character, and I'm probably never going to play as that character now if I haven't touched him in the past. It wouldn't make that big of a freaking difference if he was to replace one character. They all don't have to come back, and it wouldn't surprise me if all of them didn't, but honest to God, it's a guest character, be thankful that they're not going to make this into another crossover game.

We might be treated to a new level, as someone mentioned, it wouldn't hurt to see something like that be added. I've had a thought that maybe we'd get a destroyed Greece with that giant statue that we had to fight in the second game in the background. Or Helios flying around with Cronus swiping at him in the background. Who knows, we could have various treats from this character and you're all making it like it's the end of the world because one tiny little popular character is in.

Whoopty doo that he was in a different fighting game before this, it's not that big of a deal.

Great points Ice. I wholeheartedly agree.
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12/12/2010 05:48 AM (UTC)
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I think Kratos will be a good addition to MK, very fitting, IMO. It just sucks that hes a PS3 exclusive. Heres to hoping there is a cheat to bring him into the xbox version.

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12/12/2010 05:48 AM (UTC)
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Trini_Bwoi Wrote:
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Okay, after rewatching the trailer, I'm a little worried.

It just occurred to me that Scorpion's slow-mo spears seems as if it were meant to be viewed in...stereoscopic 3D...


It is - MK for the PS3 will support that.

That was confirmed ages ago.


Yea that's what I'm saying, which implies that it's a cutscene or something and not just some teaser. So why is Kratos in a cutscene??!!


Bonus chapter maybe, no way in hell he is going to appear in the main story mode because remember this game is for the 360 too.
GodlyShinnok Wrote:
Trini_Bwoi Wrote:
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Trini_Bwoi Wrote:
Okay, after rewatching the trailer, I'm a little worried.

It just occurred to me that Scorpion's slow-mo spears seems as if it were meant to be viewed in...stereoscopic 3D...


It is - MK for the PS3 will support that.

That was confirmed ages ago.


Yea that's what I'm saying, which implies that it's a cutscene or something and not just some teaser. So why is Kratos in a cutscene??!!


Bonus chapter maybe, no way in hell he is going to appear in the main story mode because remember this game is for the 360 too.


Or ,you know, it's just a regular cutscene. Just to promote Kratos in a Mortal Kombat Game.
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12/12/2010 05:57 AM (UTC)
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I'm a BIG and I mean BIG TM fan. Tho I don't think that Sweet Tooth could ever fit into the Mk world. If you could please give some feed on how/why he would fit that would be cool grin


Well fighting experience aside. How he could fit? My opinions...

- Manipulative Character, (Similar) to Shang Tsung, prevented death after his failure in MK1. Needles fooled Calypso in that Vile of Holy Water to stop the burn. And Decapitated him good!

- Insane Landlord (Similar) to Shao Kahn who is bent on destruction and taking over the realms for himself. Needles is like this in TMHO when he grants corrupt wishes and makes an alliance with Marcus forming Tower Tooth.

- Pain Relief (Similar) to Scorpion to the degree that he has a Flaming head. So I doubt pain would come easy.

- Weapons Expert, not really similar to anyone. But the dude has shit mounted to his Ice cream truck. Obviously he knows a thing or two about what Works.

That's all I got.
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12/12/2010 06:01 AM (UTC)
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Hey! A new Kratos game is coming out! They even decided to put some Mortal Kombat characters in it!

... I buy a MK game for the MK fighters, story, and universe. If I wanted to play as Kratos killing things... I'd just play God of War.

Kratos officially just upstaged the entire game MK crew, and I can't say I like Quan Chi's stunt double suddenly being a bigger deal and selling point than Sub-Zero and Scorpion.


See this is what I think drives the ideology behind the "Keep MK about MK" that we members here are so passionate about. It's basically reading into the projected vision of Netherrealm Studios regarding the integrity of the MK IP. Fans of the series are practically cannibalizing each other with rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth fervor begging NRS to take the character depth, lore, and gameplay to "the next level" of meticulous refinement and execution. In short, they want their beloved series to be AAA status and evolve.

So when you invite such a prominent AAA franchise character like Kratos into your IP, even if he draws in players unfamiliar to the MK series (which he undoubtedly will) not only does he steal the spotlight, he cheapens those cast in his shadow.

Seriously if Ed Boon is fantasizing about a period in time where Scorpion stepping onto the screen in a God of War game resonates, then you don't give Scorpion (or any MK icon) cred by "borrowing" from someone else's IP.

You want people to "ooh and aaah" about Scorpion? Then you cement him as a iconic character through gameplay, design, evolution, and presentation. You don't get cred by casting him as Robin in his own game when Batman walks on the scene.


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12/12/2010 06:04 AM (UTC)
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Hes already been confirmed to not have a story mode and won't be involved in the story. He is simply an extra versus character who fits in better then 80% of the god damn cast they spewed out in their last 5-6 outings.

Can't believe how much of a bitch the MK community is. I thought SF had a pussy community, I figured a game where blood and gore was widely accepted and expected that the community would have atleast a little bit of a sack about a GUEST character. Why are you kids whining so much? Cause he isn't part of the original gang? Or is it because Kratos is gonna skullfuck everyone in the MK universe?

Kids bitch and moan so much, if you want your opinion to actually matter then get good at the game and voice it, till then you cries for help fall on deaf ears.
Judging by your posts you kids have no idea what the tournament scene is and are the newbs who clamor for nerfs because they can't handle.
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12/12/2010 06:04 AM (UTC)
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I would LOVE Sweet Tooth to be in this game instead of Kratos.

He's a much more unique and creative character. Very fun design and an unpredictable twisted mind. Way more entertaining than this typical macho guy.

...hey that kinda rhymes.
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12/12/2010 06:05 AM (UTC)
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Wow all you people that are complaining about Kratos being in need 2 find something to do with your lives. Seriously, complaining about an outside character that will have no story or anything to do cannon wise but only add another playable character and more play value 2 the game is like complaining about a brand new car that comes with extra bright lights that are made from an outside company. If u dont like or want to use the lights, then don't turn them on. It's as simple as that. Problem solved, case closed, period. If you don't like Kratos being in then don't use him. Problem solved, case closed, period. He has NOTHING to do with the story or cannon in any way shape or form. All he is is an EXTRA that was added in. They already knew how many characters they wanted in the game. Kratos being in, didn't take away from having any more MK characters in. He is obviously an extra added that was probably added way after the story and roster was set. We will get more characters with dlc and Kratos will probably be dlc himself but if he isnt then don't play him!!!
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12/12/2010 06:06 AM (UTC)
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Ion3008 Wrote:
GodlyShinnok Wrote:
Trini_Bwoi Wrote:
MKBooted Wrote:
Trini_Bwoi Wrote:
Okay, after rewatching the trailer, I'm a little worried.

It just occurred to me that Scorpion's slow-mo spears seems as if it were meant to be viewed in...stereoscopic 3D...


It is - MK for the PS3 will support that.

That was confirmed ages ago.


Yea that's what I'm saying, which implies that it's a cutscene or something and not just some teaser. So why is Kratos in a cutscene??!!


Bonus chapter maybe, no way in hell he is going to appear in the main story mode because remember this game is for the 360 too.


Or ,you know, it's just a regular cutscene. Just to promote Kratos in a Mortal Kombat Game.


Maybe it's the intro of the game, you know, Mortal Kombat: Entering Kratos.
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12/12/2010 06:08 AM (UTC)
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Wow lol.. Just look at the majority of the responses towards this reveal (facebook, TRMK, MKO).. Most people are sad, disappointed, pissed, you name it. And that towards a "back-to-the-roots-fan-service" game. Hmm... Maybe they should take a look at other definitions of "fan service" (e.g. Capcom's).

The majority of your core fanbase is obviously pissed and made it clear long ago they didn't want Kratos in the game, another part doesn't care much, and another small part finds this an "awesome" development. I can see the NRS/WB team sitting around a table going "ahh fuck em, its the sales that matter. Who gives a shit about what they think? They are gonna buy anyway.". Lol

The roster was not finalized. This was actually mentioned by Boon in the GTTV Jax reveal. There was also this dude who brought up the whole Kratos idea in one of the videos months ago in which they actually ask developers of MK and GoW to which they respond in a way of "yeah, it would be cool but there are lots of legal and other issues to deal with" bla bla bla.. You could say they were keeping it a secret, but I say it was not decided back then. Kratos has been recently added to the game, I have no doubt.

It is sad that I say this, but at this point I rather have Hsu Hao in the game over Kratos. Or, imagine if they actually spent that time creating a whole new MK character... But no point in whining now. Just have to beat the shit out of Kratos now. Next time, a little more faith in your fans and in your own identity, NRS.


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12/12/2010 06:11 AM (UTC)
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Jaffe said Ed told him about it way back at E3, so Kratos was always going to be on the roster guys. If this was brought up before and they cleverly threw in little clues... well, that's just how the MK team has always been. Leaving little clues while not coming out and saying things for a while, that goes back to the old days of 2D and arcade secrets.
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12/12/2010 06:14 AM (UTC)
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Demon_0 Wrote:
It is sad that I say this, but at this point I rather have Hsu Hao in the game over Kratos.



Being a Hsu Hao fan, I would very much LOVE that.
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12/12/2010 06:17 AM (UTC)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

....well anyway, in the long run I won't care, and I'm a 360 owner so it's not like I'll have to deal with this.

I LOVED the trailer in itself though. Everything about it until the "reveal". I'm probably just looking too far into it, but I got "Kratos is better than Mortal Kombat" out of that. AGAIN: I'm probably just looking too far into it and in the long run I won't care.

I did like the music that played as it showed Kratos. And I'm sure he's going to play well.
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12/12/2010 06:17 AM (UTC)
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This is the fasted anybody has ever had a character banned from tournament play. Kratos shows up and I already know he's banned.. Ps3 exclusive means half of the mk supports will not be able to play as him and gain experience therefore the ones that do have an unfair advantage which equals banned :D.

As far as him being in the game. I have no choice but to accept it. As much as I love Kratos and God of War. This wasn't his time to join the roster. This is taking mk back to its roots and Kratos, as well as all guest characters should be absent. Didn't know Kratos was a part of their roots. Being a part of the story or not, this could have waited till mk10. I'm damn happy the 360 version is so far free of guest characters.

Everyone thats arguing about peoples complaints its simple. Those people are MK purists. Also Considering we were lied to from the very beginning is a little frustrating. I remember hearing right from Boons lips "we aren't gonna do any exclusive content. We want the people to have an equal experience". What happened Boon? Seriously, Having him on the game is just a giant fucking laceration in the "back to the roots" and "love letter to the fans" feel. It no longer feels like it's going back too its roots. No longer feels like its for the fans.. Considering all the hate this reveal has gotten they did the exact OPPOSITE of what the fans wanted That's why people are upset. We were all deceived. The people that don't want him won't play as him, but that doesn't stop the eyesore of him being a part of what used to be a pure mk game.

I'm an mk purist and mkvsdcu proved that having anything other then mk in an mk game turns it into an mk nightmare. Kratos may be banned from tournament play, but that will not stop him from appearing on playstation network. Chances are he'll be broken and the character that all the cheaters and move spammers use. He'll probably have infinites because I honestly doubt the mk team spent as much time on him as they have on the actual mk characters.

Mk needs to be the selling point for mk. You need mk to sell an mk centric game. If they advertise a character that isn't from the mk universe, its without a doubt showing that the mk team thinks Kratos and the God of War series better then his 18 years of work. That's pretty fucked up. With all that said. I'm a 360 owner so I won't have to deal with Kratos. I honestly being an mk purist would prefer him not being there and both games being equal. It is what it is however, and he's in. I just hope he isn't broken for the ps3 owners. Anyway, Kratos, Ryu Hayabusa, and a very limited amount of characters I believe would fit the mk game. Come to think of it I played the hell out of Spawn in soul calibur lol. A lot of people are just disappointed and scared because of this new development. After all of the turds they've thrown at the community adding another guest character reminds people to much of mkvsdcu and they along with myself are afraid that putting in the time and effort to add a guest character into the game could of been better spent on more important things. Like for one I still see absolutely NO corner pushback.
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12/12/2010 06:19 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
Cross187 Wrote:

I'm a BIG and I mean BIG TM fan. Tho I don't think that Sweet Tooth could ever fit into the Mk world. If you could please give some feed on how/why he would fit that would be cool grin


Well fighting experience aside. How he could fit? My opinions...

- Manipulative Character, (Similar) to Shang Tsung, prevented death after his failure in MK1. Needles fooled Calypso in that Vile of Holy Water to stop the burn. And Decapitated him good!

- Insane Landlord (Similar) to Shao Kahn who is bent on destruction and taking over the realms for himself. Needles is like this in TMHO when he grants corrupt wishes and makes an alliance with Marcus forming Tower Tooth.

- Pain Relief (Similar) to Scorpion to the degree that he has a Flaming head. So I doubt pain would come easy.

- Weapons Expert, not really similar to anyone. But the dude has shit mounted to his Ice cream truck. Obviously he knows a thing or two about what Works.

That's all I got.



That's alot more then I could come up with hahaha. Maybe worth some work he could have worked.
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12/12/2010 06:29 AM (UTC)
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They didn't make Kratos outshine any of the MK characters. It was his debut announcement...of course they had to make him shine. That's how it works. Make him look like a badass. An equal contender.

Anyways...he didnt even look superior to anyone. He attacked Sub from behind, saving him when you think about it. And then Scorp and him were about to do battle. 2 icons clashing. Sheer awesomeness. He didnt make anyone look inferior or like hes better.
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QueenSindel(TheBitch)
12/12/2010 06:39 AM (UTC)
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I wonder if Boon knows how much people hate this.
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12/12/2010 06:40 AM (UTC)
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QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
I wonder if Boon knows how much people hate this.


I'm sure he's dimly aware. It's okay, he can cry into the pile of money Sony gave him to put Kratos in the game.
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12/12/2010 06:41 AM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
I wonder if Boon knows how much people hate this.


I'm sure he's dimly aware. It's okay, he can cry into the pile of money Sony gave him to put Kratos in the game.

LOL!
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12/12/2010 06:43 AM (UTC)
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QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
I wonder if Boon knows how much people hate this.


I wonder if you know how many people like this or are indefferent towards it. It's actually a small percentage that hate it. Just because these boards are dedicated to MK hardcore fans, doesn't mean we make up a good voice for every fan and gamer out there. So the people that hate it may be the majority vote, even though it's still only about 60/40, on this board...look anywhere else or ask any other casual MK fan or gamer, and they'll think it's sweet. IceBaby put it best, refer to her post for a better understanding.
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GodlyShinnok
12/12/2010 06:48 AM (UTC)
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The same happened for MKvsDCU, you could find hate comments everywhere about that game but it sold over 1.9 million copies.
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12/12/2010 06:50 AM (UTC)
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GodlyShinnok Wrote:
The same happened for MKvsDCU, you could find hate comments everywhere about that game but it sold over 1.9 million copies.


Actually around 3 million
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12/12/2010 06:52 AM (UTC)
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Ed Boon knows how like babies the MK diehards are. "Do I do what the fans want, or do I do what I think is best?" The latter wins.

Also, if any of you have millions of dollars to throw down up front, I'm sure NRS would be happy to make a game for you exactly how you want it. But you don't have the wads of cash it takes to make these games. WB does. It's their game. Period.
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