If I'm reading this right, you can select those minor characters at the select screen, like Stunt Man, Tarkatan[soldier, general, leader]:
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What, like fight them in Arcade mode?
That blew my mind.
That blew my mind.
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Sooo... Jade will have a main outfit, an alternate outfit, MK2 classic outfit and UMK3 classic outfit... Awesome.
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Sooo... Jade will have a main outfit, an alternate outfit, MK2 classic outfit and UMK3 classic outfit... Awesome.
so does kitana!! YES!!! best MK ever!! & maybe more outfits will be available in PSN store!!Sooo... Jade will have a main outfit, an alternate outfit, MK2 classic outfit and UMK3 classic outfit... Awesome.
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Er, hope this is not too late, But I just read that Ed Boon Confirmed that all alt costumes can be unlocked in the Krypt via Twitter.
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Sounds good to now, Scorp. 
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So I didn't read this massive thread. But I'm aware the story has leaked. So can someone please tell me,if Quan Chi get's a fair showing? Also is Shinnok mentioned at all?
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Yes to both
Yes to both
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I am going to take a guess and say Johnny Blaze will probably be Johnny Cage on fire on the Pit2 as a mission in the tower mode.
That would be cool.
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I am going to take a guess and say Johnny Blaze will probably be Johnny Cage on fire on the Pit2 as a mission in the tower mode.
That would be cool.
I am going to take a guess and say Johnny Blaze will probably be Johnny Cage on fire on the Pit2 as a mission in the tower mode.
That would be cool.
That, or Ghost Rider has found his way into Mortal Kombat
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I'm a little surprised they can used that name without infringing on a Marvel copyright. After all, they couldn't call Blaze "Torch" because it was too close to "Human Torch".
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Hmm, good point. That is sorta weird.
If I remember right, it was because Marvel actually trademark/holds copyright of "Torch" as a character name as an extension of Human Torch.
I don't know if they have anything on names like Johnny Blaze, since... well it's entirely feasible that that may be someone's real name.
I don't know if they have anything on names like Johnny Blaze, since... well it's entirely feasible that that may be someone's real name.
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Yeah, the real name of Ghost Rider. 
jk
This is mostly directed at Razor since he's the one that's the most vocal about his outrage.
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I didn't plan on reading the spoiler leak info, but then I saw some users acting pissed about the story and I got too curious to avoid it. I was really afraid that it was going to be terrible, but as I read it I really liked it and became really confused about the outrage. I truly don't get why people are upset about the main character deaths or Cyber Sub-Zero.
I know that not everyone likes Lost, but it's just my example that I'll use. It was a character driven story, and people really fell in love with a lot of the characters. It was a dangerous dramatic situation, and there was death. Main characters, many of whom were very popular characters, died or changed to become a shadow of their former selves. This created a real sense of loss and unease, as once someone you never thought would die does die then the stakes are raised and you really have no idea what could happen next. It's good storytelling that can pull at your emotions and bring a sense of realism and mortality to the characters.
Just because certain characters are very popular or a "cover boy" does not mean that the story should avoid letting horrible things happen to them. It's not supposed to be cool that Sub-Zero is now a robot; it's a tragedy and seems to be presented as one. It's not like the characters that die aren't able to be played in the game, or the human Sub-Zero won't exist as a playable character in future games. The story is unusually deep in MK, but non-canon characters are always appearing in playable form because the real meat of MK and any fighting game is the non-story fighting.
Also, why is Cyber Sub-Zero so bad? He still has his memory and he's still the same great fighter he's always been, he'll just look different and have some enhanced superhuman abilities. Is it just because you don't like the way that the robots look? They don't seem as goofy in this game as they have in past ones.
About the canon changes that were mentioned: a lot of fighters participated in the MK1 tournament or were around without being mentioned. How are the people who appear there so out of place in the canon? There are some weird things still, like Mileena not growing up with Kitana, but they probably thought back logically and said "how the hell would Kitana not have noticed her f*cked up face during their childhood?"
I'm not explicitly defending the game; I was ready to be pissed off by what I read. It's just that once I did read it I was totally confused and kept thinking "wait, why is this bad in any way? It's not lame or cheesy, it's dramatic and cool. It's just that some people's favorite characters have bad things happen to them and some people seem to be taking it poorly."
I didn't plan on reading the spoiler leak info, but then I saw some users acting pissed about the story and I got too curious to avoid it. I was really afraid that it was going to be terrible, but as I read it I really liked it and became really confused about the outrage. I truly don't get why people are upset about the main character deaths or Cyber Sub-Zero.
I know that not everyone likes Lost, but it's just my example that I'll use. It was a character driven story, and people really fell in love with a lot of the characters. It was a dangerous dramatic situation, and there was death. Main characters, many of whom were very popular characters, died or changed to become a shadow of their former selves. This created a real sense of loss and unease, as once someone you never thought would die does die then the stakes are raised and you really have no idea what could happen next. It's good storytelling that can pull at your emotions and bring a sense of realism and mortality to the characters.
Just because certain characters are very popular or a "cover boy" does not mean that the story should avoid letting horrible things happen to them. It's not supposed to be cool that Sub-Zero is now a robot; it's a tragedy and seems to be presented as one. It's not like the characters that die aren't able to be played in the game, or the human Sub-Zero won't exist as a playable character in future games. The story is unusually deep in MK, but non-canon characters are always appearing in playable form because the real meat of MK and any fighting game is the non-story fighting.
Also, why is Cyber Sub-Zero so bad? He still has his memory and he's still the same great fighter he's always been, he'll just look different and have some enhanced superhuman abilities. Is it just because you don't like the way that the robots look? They don't seem as goofy in this game as they have in past ones.
About the canon changes that were mentioned: a lot of fighters participated in the MK1 tournament or were around without being mentioned. How are the people who appear there so out of place in the canon? There are some weird things still, like Mileena not growing up with Kitana, but they probably thought back logically and said "how the hell would Kitana not have noticed her f*cked up face during their childhood?"
I'm not explicitly defending the game; I was ready to be pissed off by what I read. It's just that once I did read it I was totally confused and kept thinking "wait, why is this bad in any way? It's not lame or cheesy, it's dramatic and cool. It's just that some people's favorite characters have bad things happen to them and some people seem to be taking it poorly."
Hell even if Smoke looks retarded and he may should stay Cyborg...
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Cyber Sub Zero isn't that bad. Kuai Lang has still his mind and all... Even if he stays that in the future he still can go after his old story... If not they easily can bring him back.
Why not given him a chance for this game... even more if we still have both Subs in it. I for myself looking forward to use him and don't think about next game.
Cyber Sub Zero isn't that bad. Kuai Lang has still his mind and all... Even if he stays that in the future he still can go after his old story... If not they easily can bring him back.
Why not given him a chance for this game... even more if we still have both Subs in it. I for myself looking forward to use him and don't think about next game.
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Ender13 Wrote:
This is mostly directed at Razor since he's the one that's the most vocal about his outrage.
This is mostly directed at Razor since he's the one that's the most vocal about his outrage.
Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
I didn't plan on reading the spoiler leak info, but then I saw some users acting pissed about the story and I got too curious to avoid it. I was really afraid that it was going to be terrible, but as I read it I really liked it and became really confused about the outrage. I truly don't get why people are upset about the main character deaths or Cyber Sub-Zero.
I know that not everyone likes Lost, but it's just my example that I'll use. It was a character driven story, and people really fell in love with a lot of the characters. It was a dangerous dramatic situation, and there was death. Main characters, many of whom were very popular characters, died or changed to become a shadow of their former selves. This created a real sense of loss and unease, as once someone you never thought would die does die then the stakes are raised and you really have no idea what could happen next. It's good storytelling that can pull at your emotions and bring a sense of realism and mortality to the characters.
Just because certain characters are very popular or a "cover boy" does not mean that the story should avoid letting horrible things happen to them. It's not supposed to be cool that Sub-Zero is now a robot; it's a tragedy and seems to be presented as one. It's not like the characters that die aren't able to be played in the game, or the human Sub-Zero won't exist as a playable character in future games. The story is unusually deep in MK, but non-canon characters are always appearing in playable form because the real meat of MK and any fighting game is the non-story fighting.
Also, why is Cyber Sub-Zero so bad? He still has his memory and he's still the same great fighter he's always been, he'll just look different and have some enhanced superhuman abilities. Is it just because you don't like the way that the robots look? They don't seem as goofy in this game as they have in past ones.
About the canon changes that were mentioned: a lot of fighters participated in the MK1 tournament or were around without being mentioned. How are the people who appear there so out of place in the canon? There are some weird things still, like Mileena not growing up with Kitana, but they probably thought back logically and said "how the hell would Kitana not have noticed her f*cked up face during their childhood?"
I'm not explicitly defending the game; I was ready to be pissed off by what I read. It's just that once I did read it I was totally confused and kept thinking "wait, why is this bad in any way? It's not lame or cheesy, it's dramatic and cool. It's just that some people's favorite characters have bad things happen to them and some people seem to be taking it poorly."
I didn't plan on reading the spoiler leak info, but then I saw some users acting pissed about the story and I got too curious to avoid it. I was really afraid that it was going to be terrible, but as I read it I really liked it and became really confused about the outrage. I truly don't get why people are upset about the main character deaths or Cyber Sub-Zero.
I know that not everyone likes Lost, but it's just my example that I'll use. It was a character driven story, and people really fell in love with a lot of the characters. It was a dangerous dramatic situation, and there was death. Main characters, many of whom were very popular characters, died or changed to become a shadow of their former selves. This created a real sense of loss and unease, as once someone you never thought would die does die then the stakes are raised and you really have no idea what could happen next. It's good storytelling that can pull at your emotions and bring a sense of realism and mortality to the characters.
Just because certain characters are very popular or a "cover boy" does not mean that the story should avoid letting horrible things happen to them. It's not supposed to be cool that Sub-Zero is now a robot; it's a tragedy and seems to be presented as one. It's not like the characters that die aren't able to be played in the game, or the human Sub-Zero won't exist as a playable character in future games. The story is unusually deep in MK, but non-canon characters are always appearing in playable form because the real meat of MK and any fighting game is the non-story fighting.
Also, why is Cyber Sub-Zero so bad? He still has his memory and he's still the same great fighter he's always been, he'll just look different and have some enhanced superhuman abilities. Is it just because you don't like the way that the robots look? They don't seem as goofy in this game as they have in past ones.
About the canon changes that were mentioned: a lot of fighters participated in the MK1 tournament or were around without being mentioned. How are the people who appear there so out of place in the canon? There are some weird things still, like Mileena not growing up with Kitana, but they probably thought back logically and said "how the hell would Kitana not have noticed her f*cked up face during their childhood?"
I'm not explicitly defending the game; I was ready to be pissed off by what I read. It's just that once I did read it I was totally confused and kept thinking "wait, why is this bad in any way? It's not lame or cheesy, it's dramatic and cool. It's just that some people's favorite characters have bad things happen to them and some people seem to be taking it poorly."
Well said and I agree 110%.
Ender13 Wrote:
This is mostly directed at Razor since he's the one that's the most vocal about his outrage.
This is mostly directed at Razor since he's the one that's the most vocal about his outrage.
Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
I didn't plan on reading the spoiler leak info, but then I saw some users acting pissed about the story and I got too curious to avoid it. I was really afraid that it was going to be terrible, but as I read it I really liked it and became really confused about the outrage. I truly don't get why people are upset about the main character deaths or Cyber Sub-Zero.
I know that not everyone likes Lost, but it's just my example that I'll use. It was a character driven story, and people really fell in love with a lot of the characters. It was a dangerous dramatic situation, and there was death. Main characters, many of whom were very popular characters, died or changed to become a shadow of their former selves. This created a real sense of loss and unease, as once someone you never thought would die does die then the stakes are raised and you really have no idea what could happen next. It's good storytelling that can pull at your emotions and bring a sense of realism and mortality to the characters.
Just because certain characters are very popular or a "cover boy" does not mean that the story should avoid letting horrible things happen to them. It's not supposed to be cool that Sub-Zero is now a robot; it's a tragedy and seems to be presented as one. It's not like the characters that die aren't able to be played in the game, or the human Sub-Zero won't exist as a playable character in future games. The story is unusually deep in MK, but non-canon characters are always appearing in playable form because the real meat of MK and any fighting game is the non-story fighting.
Also, why is Cyber Sub-Zero so bad? He still has his memory and he's still the same great fighter he's always been, he'll just look different and have some enhanced superhuman abilities. Is it just because you don't like the way that the robots look? They don't seem as goofy in this game as they have in past ones.
About the canon changes that were mentioned: a lot of fighters participated in the MK1 tournament or were around without being mentioned. How are the people who appear there so out of place in the canon? There are some weird things still, like Mileena not growing up with Kitana, but they probably thought back logically and said "how the hell would Kitana not have noticed her f*cked up face during their childhood?"
I'm not explicitly defending the game; I was ready to be pissed off by what I read. It's just that once I did read it I was totally confused and kept thinking "wait, why is this bad in any way? It's not lame or cheesy, it's dramatic and cool. It's just that some people's favorite characters have bad things happen to them and some people seem to be taking it poorly."
I didn't plan on reading the spoiler leak info, but then I saw some users acting pissed about the story and I got too curious to avoid it. I was really afraid that it was going to be terrible, but as I read it I really liked it and became really confused about the outrage. I truly don't get why people are upset about the main character deaths or Cyber Sub-Zero.
I know that not everyone likes Lost, but it's just my example that I'll use. It was a character driven story, and people really fell in love with a lot of the characters. It was a dangerous dramatic situation, and there was death. Main characters, many of whom were very popular characters, died or changed to become a shadow of their former selves. This created a real sense of loss and unease, as once someone you never thought would die does die then the stakes are raised and you really have no idea what could happen next. It's good storytelling that can pull at your emotions and bring a sense of realism and mortality to the characters.
Just because certain characters are very popular or a "cover boy" does not mean that the story should avoid letting horrible things happen to them. It's not supposed to be cool that Sub-Zero is now a robot; it's a tragedy and seems to be presented as one. It's not like the characters that die aren't able to be played in the game, or the human Sub-Zero won't exist as a playable character in future games. The story is unusually deep in MK, but non-canon characters are always appearing in playable form because the real meat of MK and any fighting game is the non-story fighting.
Also, why is Cyber Sub-Zero so bad? He still has his memory and he's still the same great fighter he's always been, he'll just look different and have some enhanced superhuman abilities. Is it just because you don't like the way that the robots look? They don't seem as goofy in this game as they have in past ones.
About the canon changes that were mentioned: a lot of fighters participated in the MK1 tournament or were around without being mentioned. How are the people who appear there so out of place in the canon? There are some weird things still, like Mileena not growing up with Kitana, but they probably thought back logically and said "how the hell would Kitana not have noticed her f*cked up face during their childhood?"
I'm not explicitly defending the game; I was ready to be pissed off by what I read. It's just that once I did read it I was totally confused and kept thinking "wait, why is this bad in any way? It's not lame or cheesy, it's dramatic and cool. It's just that some people's favorite characters have bad things happen to them and some people seem to be taking it poorly."
Ender, I can't speak for Razor, but I know I feel similarly to him, and the trouble issssss
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The idea of screwing over a character, creating drama or a real sense of danger by killing/and or changing something, is valid as a story telling device.
HOWEVER
In the case of Sub-Zero, they've genuinely just royally screwed him in the butt. They've literally just swapped his story with Smoke's for the sake of "OMG LOOK WHAT WE DID ISN'T IT SHOCKING AND SURPRISING"... They tried to pussy foot soften the blow as well, by having him become good again straight away, and it's like... what's the point then?
The story they're telling with him just isn't good. That's the problem. It's raped his canon, and done it in a way that's uninspired, completely insulting to his legacy and in general just lazy. Iti's one thing for bad things to happen. It's another for dull and aggravating bad things to happen
The idea of screwing over a character, creating drama or a real sense of danger by killing/and or changing something, is valid as a story telling device.
HOWEVER
In the case of Sub-Zero, they've genuinely just royally screwed him in the butt. They've literally just swapped his story with Smoke's for the sake of "OMG LOOK WHAT WE DID ISN'T IT SHOCKING AND SURPRISING"... They tried to pussy foot soften the blow as well, by having him become good again straight away, and it's like... what's the point then?
The story they're telling with him just isn't good. That's the problem. It's raped his canon, and done it in a way that's uninspired, completely insulting to his legacy and in general just lazy. Iti's one thing for bad things to happen. It's another for dull and aggravating bad things to happen
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samuhai Wrote:
Ender, I can't speak for Razor, but I know I feel similarly to him, and the trouble issssss
Ender13 Wrote:
This is mostly directed at Razor since he's the one that's the most vocal about his outrage.
This is mostly directed at Razor since he's the one that's the most vocal about his outrage.
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I didn't plan on reading the spoiler leak info, but then I saw some users acting pissed about the story and I got too curious to avoid it. I was really afraid that it was going to be terrible, but as I read it I really liked it and became really confused about the outrage. I truly don't get why people are upset about the main character deaths or Cyber Sub-Zero.
I know that not everyone likes Lost, but it's just my example that I'll use. It was a character driven story, and people really fell in love with a lot of the characters. It was a dangerous dramatic situation, and there was death. Main characters, many of whom were very popular characters, died or changed to become a shadow of their former selves. This created a real sense of loss and unease, as once someone you never thought would die does die then the stakes are raised and you really have no idea what could happen next. It's good storytelling that can pull at your emotions and bring a sense of realism and mortality to the characters.
Just because certain characters are very popular or a "cover boy" does not mean that the story should avoid letting horrible things happen to them. It's not supposed to be cool that Sub-Zero is now a robot; it's a tragedy and seems to be presented as one. It's not like the characters that die aren't able to be played in the game, or the human Sub-Zero won't exist as a playable character in future games. The story is unusually deep in MK, but non-canon characters are always appearing in playable form because the real meat of MK and any fighting game is the non-story fighting.
Also, why is Cyber Sub-Zero so bad? He still has his memory and he's still the same great fighter he's always been, he'll just look different and have some enhanced superhuman abilities. Is it just because you don't like the way that the robots look? They don't seem as goofy in this game as they have in past ones.
About the canon changes that were mentioned: a lot of fighters participated in the MK1 tournament or were around without being mentioned. How are the people who appear there so out of place in the canon? There are some weird things still, like Mileena not growing up with Kitana, but they probably thought back logically and said "how the hell would Kitana not have noticed her f*cked up face during their childhood?"
I'm not explicitly defending the game; I was ready to be pissed off by what I read. It's just that once I did read it I was totally confused and kept thinking "wait, why is this bad in any way? It's not lame or cheesy, it's dramatic and cool. It's just that some people's favorite characters have bad things happen to them and some people seem to be taking it poorly."
I didn't plan on reading the spoiler leak info, but then I saw some users acting pissed about the story and I got too curious to avoid it. I was really afraid that it was going to be terrible, but as I read it I really liked it and became really confused about the outrage. I truly don't get why people are upset about the main character deaths or Cyber Sub-Zero.
I know that not everyone likes Lost, but it's just my example that I'll use. It was a character driven story, and people really fell in love with a lot of the characters. It was a dangerous dramatic situation, and there was death. Main characters, many of whom were very popular characters, died or changed to become a shadow of their former selves. This created a real sense of loss and unease, as once someone you never thought would die does die then the stakes are raised and you really have no idea what could happen next. It's good storytelling that can pull at your emotions and bring a sense of realism and mortality to the characters.
Just because certain characters are very popular or a "cover boy" does not mean that the story should avoid letting horrible things happen to them. It's not supposed to be cool that Sub-Zero is now a robot; it's a tragedy and seems to be presented as one. It's not like the characters that die aren't able to be played in the game, or the human Sub-Zero won't exist as a playable character in future games. The story is unusually deep in MK, but non-canon characters are always appearing in playable form because the real meat of MK and any fighting game is the non-story fighting.
Also, why is Cyber Sub-Zero so bad? He still has his memory and he's still the same great fighter he's always been, he'll just look different and have some enhanced superhuman abilities. Is it just because you don't like the way that the robots look? They don't seem as goofy in this game as they have in past ones.
About the canon changes that were mentioned: a lot of fighters participated in the MK1 tournament or were around without being mentioned. How are the people who appear there so out of place in the canon? There are some weird things still, like Mileena not growing up with Kitana, but they probably thought back logically and said "how the hell would Kitana not have noticed her f*cked up face during their childhood?"
I'm not explicitly defending the game; I was ready to be pissed off by what I read. It's just that once I did read it I was totally confused and kept thinking "wait, why is this bad in any way? It's not lame or cheesy, it's dramatic and cool. It's just that some people's favorite characters have bad things happen to them and some people seem to be taking it poorly."
Ender, I can't speak for Razor, but I know I feel similarly to him, and the trouble issssss
Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
The idea of screwing over a character, creating drama or a real sense of danger by killing/and or changing something, is valid as a story telling device.
HOWEVER
In the case of Sub-Zero, they've genuinely just royally screwed him in the butt. They've literally just swapped his story with Smoke's for the sake of "OMG LOOK WHAT WE DID ISN'T IT SHOCKING AND SURPRISING"... They tried to pussy foot soften the blow as well, by having him become good again straight away, and it's like... what's the point then?
The story they're telling with him just isn't good. That's the problem. It's raped his canon, and done it in a way that's uninspired, completely insulting to his legacy and in general just lazy. Iti's one thing for bad things to happen. It's another for dull and aggravating bad things to happen
The idea of screwing over a character, creating drama or a real sense of danger by killing/and or changing something, is valid as a story telling device.
HOWEVER
In the case of Sub-Zero, they've genuinely just royally screwed him in the butt. They've literally just swapped his story with Smoke's for the sake of "OMG LOOK WHAT WE DID ISN'T IT SHOCKING AND SURPRISING"... They tried to pussy foot soften the blow as well, by having him become good again straight away, and it's like... what's the point then?
The story they're telling with him just isn't good. That's the problem. It's raped his canon, and done it in a way that's uninspired, completely insulting to his legacy and in general just lazy. Iti's one thing for bad things to happen. It's another for dull and aggravating bad things to happen
Honestly that is just opinion because I do not see it as trouble or bad...and I use to be a very big Sub-Zero fan. Everyone is a critic...so what do I know...
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Well what I don't understand... Why are people so suprised... After Boon mentioned that someone else could be Cyborg now everyone should know that Sub will become one and Smoke will this time Human.
It was predictable. Yeah you might call it weak that they switched up the storyline so simple... But this isn't the case. Sub isn't a mere soulless cyborg like Smoke and won't be no one's pussy.
He still has his own mind, sould and character.
And like some people already said. Let us see him first and than judge. he could look completely different from the other Cyborgs and more human looking after all.
Not only that... IF they keep him in the future Sub Zero can still go his story like he has done in the past. If not, they easily can change him back and even hint in his own arcade ending, if he isn't sharing it with Normal Sub.
I was waiting for a Cyborg Sub till UMK3... So I'm glad that he is finally in. Smoke fans has the pleasure to have Human Smoke this time around, even if he looks like shit for now, and that he can go a different story from now... And Sub fans still have both versiions in and we don't know the future.
I like it. Nothing more to say
It was predictable. Yeah you might call it weak that they switched up the storyline so simple... But this isn't the case. Sub isn't a mere soulless cyborg like Smoke and won't be no one's pussy.
He still has his own mind, sould and character.
And like some people already said. Let us see him first and than judge. he could look completely different from the other Cyborgs and more human looking after all.
Not only that... IF they keep him in the future Sub Zero can still go his story like he has done in the past. If not, they easily can change him back and even hint in his own arcade ending, if he isn't sharing it with Normal Sub.
I was waiting for a Cyborg Sub till UMK3... So I'm glad that he is finally in. Smoke fans has the pleasure to have Human Smoke this time around, even if he looks like shit for now, and that he can go a different story from now... And Sub fans still have both versiions in and we don't know the future.
I like it. Nothing more to say
LycaniLLusion Wrote:
Honestly that is just opinion because I do not see it as trouble or bad...and I use to be a very big Sub-Zero fan. Everyone is a critic...so what do I know...
Honestly that is just opinion because I do not see it as trouble or bad...and I use to be a very big Sub-Zero fan. Everyone is a critic...so what do I know...
No,it's not a goddamn opinion.
They took away his original story,which was by far and away the best in the entire series.
And what did they give him instead?
A rehash of Smoke's old storyline.
This is garbage. Utter garbage.
LK-52O Wrote:
Well what I don't understand... Why are people so suprised... After Boon mentioned that someone else could be Cyborg now everyone should know that Sub will become one and Smoke will this time Human.
Well what I don't understand... Why are people so suprised... After Boon mentioned that someone else could be Cyborg now everyone should know that Sub will become one and Smoke will this time Human.
We are surprised because we honestly thought that NRS would have more common sense than to ruin the best character in the history of the franchise.
But Boon sure showed us,didn't he?
LK-52O Wrote:
It was predictable. Yeah you might call it weak that they switched up the storyline so simple... But this isn't the case. Sub isn't a mere soulless cyborg like Smoke and won't be no one's pussy.
He still has his own mind, soul and character.
It was predictable. Yeah you might call it weak that they switched up the storyline so simple... But this isn't the case. Sub isn't a mere soulless cyborg like Smoke and won't be no one's pussy.
He still has his own mind, soul and character.
Damn,you're right.
They actually gave him Cyrax's story instead.
And Cyrax is really the one who got shafted with a Smoke storyline.
Now that's what I call a good story.
LK-52O Wrote:
Sub isn't a mere soulless cyborg like Smoke and won't be no one's pussy.
He still has his own mind, soul and character.
Sub isn't a mere soulless cyborg like Smoke and won't be no one's pussy.
He still has his own mind, soul and character.
If Batman became a robot,would he still be the same character,or would it just be monumentally stupid?
YOU DECIDE
LK-52O Wrote:
And like some people already said. Let us see him first and than judge. he could look completely different from the other Cyborgs and more human looking after all.
And like some people already said. Let us see him first and than judge. he could look completely different from the other Cyborgs and more human looking after all.
He could have the best cyborg design of the whole bunch,but his character would be no less ruined.
LK-52O Wrote:
Not only that... IF they keep him in the future Sub Zero can still go his story like he has done in the past. If not, they easily can change him back and even hint in his own arcade ending, if he isn't sharing it with Normal Sub.
Not only that... IF they keep him in the future Sub Zero can still go his story like he has done in the past. If not, they easily can change him back and even hint in his own arcade ending, if he isn't sharing it with Normal Sub.
Well,if cyberization can be so easily reversed with no permanent change to the character,then what was the fucking point of that whole storyline in the first place?
LK-52O Wrote:
Smoke fans has the pleasure to have Human Smoke this time around, even if he looks like shit for now, and that he can go a different story from now...
Smoke fans has the pleasure to have Human Smoke this time around, even if he looks like shit for now, and that he can go a different story from now...
You haven't even really seen what he looks like.
my own opinion on cyber-sub is that, yes, its a shame to let all that story go. but the entire old mk canon had gone to shit, there was no way the mk team could salvage the story from the utter mess that was armageddon without a retcon.
sub-zero has had his time to shine, and shine he most certainly has. that said, his moves/look have not changed at all in the last 20 years. i GUARANTEE cyber-sub will play well and look awesome. they wouldnt dare totally change one of mk's poster boys without making damn sure he looked good. he'll most likely have all/most/some of his trademark moves, but their properties might be slightly different to incorporate his cyborg-ness.
sub-zero has had his time to shine, and shine he most certainly has. that said, his moves/look have not changed at all in the last 20 years. i GUARANTEE cyber-sub will play well and look awesome. they wouldnt dare totally change one of mk's poster boys without making damn sure he looked good. he'll most likely have all/most/some of his trademark moves, but their properties might be slightly different to incorporate his cyborg-ness.
Once again. Who says his story won't go the same way like in the past.
And it isn't hard to change him back, if the people are whining too much over him. Next game can start with his bio, that he will get back to normal with the hel of the special forces... if not, he can be in the story searching for a way and at the end you will have both Subs as well.
That's not hard. But people bitching about this even if they have known that someone else would be Cyborg this time is stupid.
OK you don't have to like it. But you still have both Subs in this game and the future will tell the rest.
And I hate that you don't even try to give Smoke fans the pleassure of having hims as human in this one and not being a mindless stupid robot.
But like I said. I like it and you can't tell the future of his story for now.
I know that Sub is iconic and his old story was great... But I always wanted too se ehim like that. So what. If it is bad, than they will change it somehow for next game... and I bet they will and Sub will still be my favourite character... No matter if Cyborg or Ninja. Kuai-Lang is Kuai-Lang in my eyes.
But of course you can dislike it... This is just my opinion and you can have yours
And it isn't hard to change him back, if the people are whining too much over him. Next game can start with his bio, that he will get back to normal with the hel of the special forces... if not, he can be in the story searching for a way and at the end you will have both Subs as well.
That's not hard. But people bitching about this even if they have known that someone else would be Cyborg this time is stupid.
OK you don't have to like it. But you still have both Subs in this game and the future will tell the rest.
And I hate that you don't even try to give Smoke fans the pleassure of having hims as human in this one and not being a mindless stupid robot.
But like I said. I like it and you can't tell the future of his story for now.
I know that Sub is iconic and his old story was great... But I always wanted too se ehim like that. So what. If it is bad, than they will change it somehow for next game... and I bet they will and Sub will still be my favourite character... No matter if Cyborg or Ninja. Kuai-Lang is Kuai-Lang in my eyes.
But of course you can dislike it... This is just my opinion and you can have yours
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jagro Wrote:
but the entire old mk canon had gone to shit, there was no way the mk team could salvage the story from the utter mess that was armageddon without a retcon.
but the entire old mk canon had gone to shit, there was no way the mk team could salvage the story from the utter mess that was armageddon without a retcon.
Yes there was.
I could do it in under a minute.
Check this:
"Taven and Daegon both stab Blaze with their special swords at the same time. The prize is split in half and both become a god, but there's not enough left to pass thru their armor and affect anyone else in the crater. Argus shows up, reveals he faked his death, and banishes Daegon to the Netherealm for being an evil douche.
The fighters in the crater are allowed to settle their differences the normal way, by killing each other until there's not enough left to be a danger to the realms.
They make a fucking sequel to Armageddon the same as they made a sequel to every other game."
Done.
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