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posted03/17/2011 06:16 PM (UTC)by
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Garlador
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MK has been around for awhile now... and as much as the core series has made sense right up until it's implosion with Armageddon, many of us have been left with a ton of lingering questions and holes we've eagerly wanted to have answered.

And this new MK game, to a degree, retells the stories of the older games and provides an opportunity to shed some light on some of those early, rushed areas of the game. (Before anyone asks, yes, I know about the leaks and the changes... and these questions are still relevant.)

Anyway, here are some "unsolved mysteries" in the MK canon I want answered:

1) Sub-Zero's scar - We can go with the Shaolin Monk's explanation that Kung Lao hit him in the face with his hat, but practically nobody considers Shaolin Monks canon. The popular theories are that Scorpion gave him the scar during their battle in MK2 or that Sub-Zero incurred the scar while trying to escape the Lin Kuei in MK3 with Smoke (or that maybe Smoke himself gave it to Sub-Zero.) Others believed the Lin Kuei physically marked him for death and gave him a sporting chance before they sent their warriors to hunt him down. Either way, the origins of Sub-Zero's iconic scar remain definitively unknown.

2) Kintaro's fate - Kintaro; bigger, stronger, badder than Goro. And he just sort of disappeared after MK2. Goro came back with a vengeance, but Kintaro's death was never confirmed, nor were any circumstances of anyone even fighting him. There were rumors Raiden killed him, but Kintaro by and large just dropped off the earth/outworld and didn't show up again until Armageddon, looking pretty healthy (though the canon of many characters in that game is in question.) What happened to Kintaro?

3) Baraka's chest injury - Another scar story. Kung Lao shredded Baraka open in MK4 and was forced to staple his chest and gut shut to keep his innards inside him, but Baraka returned in Deception without so much as a scar to show for it. How did he magically get healed?

4) Sonya's Partner - Sonya hates Kano for one very big reason, besides him being a terrible human being: he killed her partner. That's all we tend to know, and supposedly all we should know. But ever since then, Sonya's been partnered up with Jax, and games even now tend to switch between them who has the genuine vendetta against Kano. Sonya's a soldier, and she's probably lost a lot of friends in the war against the Black Dragon... so what, in particular, made her care about her former partner so much and hate Kano so intensely for killing him. I'd like to know the details (besides "from ear... *swiiip* ... to ear.")

5) Mileena and Kitana - Their storylines change EVERY game nowadays, and this game doesn't seem to buck the trend. They're raised as sisters, they never met before until during MK2's era, Kitana is under a spell, Kitana just doesn't know better, Kitana discovers her parentage before MK2... now during... now after, Mileena grew up hating Kitana since Kahn favored her, Kahn prefers Mileena because Kitana isn't as loyal, Kitana actually has love and mercy for her mutated sister, Kitana hates her as an abomination, Mileena Tarkatan features were an accident, in other instances on purpose, Mileena just wants her father's approval, Mileena wants to take Kitana's place as royalty and rule, regardless of her father's approval, Mileena and Baraka are lovers, sometimes it's never mentioned... Could somebody PLEASE straighten this pair out?

6) Jax's arms - Are they actual robot arms, or are they cybernetic enhancements he can take off? We've seen both stories before, as recently as MK: Armageddon having both metal and normal arms in them. The new game looks like they're actually a part of him now and can't remove them. Are they real arms or not?

Anyone else have some great "unsolved mysteries" of Mortal Kombat or things that continue to baffle them? If so, let's hear 'em, and maybe the new game will pull the curtain back on a few of these mysteries (without totally retconning things or making them more confusing).
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 •03/14/2011 10:05 PM (UTC) •
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Do dodo dodo dodo! Do dodo dodo dada! (heavy bass snare)

Kintaro's always been the one that puzzled me the most. They didn't even bother to tell us what happened to him in Armageddon.
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 •03/14/2011 10:10 PM (UTC) •
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Not sure AT ALL about this, but it wasnt just Baraka's torso. it was his head too

Check the pic Here

I remember somebody saying Kung Lao did the MK2 verticle slice fatality on him.

no clue if thats the real case, Wheres Razor!?
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 •03/14/2011 10:12 PM (UTC) •
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I will NEVER take the theory that Kung Lao was the one who gave Sub-Zero his scar... Never! I've always believed that it was during the escape of the Automation Program was responsible for his scar.
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•03/14/2011 10:13 PM (UTC) •
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Wanderer Wrote:
Do dodo dodo dodo! Do dodo dodo dada! (heavy bass snare)

Kintaro's always been the one that puzzled me the most. They didn't even bother to tell us what happened to him in Armageddon.


Or Sheeva for that matter. Her and Kintaro just randomly showed up after being gone for 10 years without any type of explanation of where they've been or even what the hell they were doing now since they had no bios.

I always assumed that Sheeva's soul was sent to the neatherealm after her death. That was somewhat backed up by her(and Kintaro) being there in Armageddon's Konquest mode and attempting to overthrow Shinnok with several other nethererealm inhabitants(And wasn't she also there in Deception's Konquest?) . But then it's revealed that it wasn't real and that Shinnok wasn't really in danger. So that takes us back to square one.
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 •03/14/2011 10:19 PM (UTC) •
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I always thought that in MK2 Kintaro bashed up Jax's arms and before he laid the killing blow Raiden came in and electrified Kintaro until he blew up.

Also I was always under the assumption that Sub-Zero earned his scar by fighting Scorpion in Mortal Kombat 2 and because of Sub-Zero's merciful nature he laid off Sub-Zero for the rest of the game.

As for Baraka, it seemed that somebody forgot about that one at the studio haha.
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 •03/14/2011 10:25 PM (UTC) •
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Masked Sub ending in UMK3

Don't remember if that issue was cleared by the Team.
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 •03/14/2011 10:33 PM (UTC) •
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Garlador Wrote:
MK has been around for awhile now... and as much as the core series has made sense right up until it's implosion with Armageddon, many of us have been left with a ton of lingering questions and holes we've eagerly wanted to have answered.

And this new MK game, to a degree, retells the stories of the older games and provides an opportunity to shed some light on some of those early, rushed areas of the game. (Before anyone asks, yes, I know about the leaks and the changes... and this questions are still relevant.)

Anyway, here are some "unsolved mysteries" in the MK canon I want answered:

1) Sub-Zero's scar - We can go with the Shaolin Monk's explanation that Kung Lao hit him in the face with his hat, but practically nobody considers Shaolin Monks canon. The popular theories are that Scorpion gave him the scar during their battle in MK2 or that Sub-Zero incurred the scar while trying to escape the Lin Kuei in MK3 with Smoke (or that maybe Smoke himself gave it to Sub-Zero.) Others believed the Lin Kuei physically marked him for death and gave him a sporting change before they sent their warriors to hunt him down. Either way, the origins of Sub-Zero's iconic scar remain definitively unknown.

2) Kintaro's fate - Kintaro; bigger, stronger, badder than Goro. And he just sort of disappeared after MK2. Goro came back with a vengeance, but Kintaro's death was never confirmed, nor were any circumstances of anyone even fighting him. There were rumors Raiden killed him, but Kintaro by and large just dropped off the earth/outworld and didn't show up again until Armageddon, looking pretty healthy (though the canon of many characters in that game is in question.) What happened to Kintaro?

3) Baraka's chest injury - Another scar story. Kung Lao shredded Baraka open in MK4 and was forced to staple his chest and gut shut to keep his innards inside him, but Baraka returned in Deception without so much as a scar to show for it. How did he magically get healed?

4) Sonya's Partner - Sonya hates Kano for one very big reason, besides him being a terrible human being: he killed her partner. That's all we tend to know, and supposedly all we should know. But ever since then, Sonya's been partnered up with Jax, and games even now tend to switch between them who has the genuine vendetta against Kano. Sonya's a soldier, and she's probably lost a lot of friends in the war against the Black Dragon... so what, in particular, made her care about her former partner so much and hate Kano so intensely for killing him. I'd like to know the details (besides "from ear... *swiiip* ... to ear.")

5) Mileena and Kitana - Their storylines change EVERY game nowadays, and this game doesn't seem to buck the trend. They're raised as sisters, they never met before until during MK2's era, Kitana is under a spell, Kitana just doesn't know better, Kitana discovers her parentage before MK2... now during... now after, Mileena grew up hating Kitana since Kahn favored her, Kahn prefers Mileena because Kitana isn't as loyal, Kitana actually has love and mercy for her mutated sister, Kitana hates her as an abomination, Mileena Tarkatan features were an accident, in other instances on purpose, Mileena just wants her father's approval, Mileena wants to take Kitana's place as royalty and rule, regardless of her father's approval, Mileena and Baraka are lovers, sometimes it's never mentioned... Could somebody PLEASE straighten this pair out?

6) Jax's arms - Are they actual robot arms, or are they cybernetic enhancements he can take off? We've seen both stories before, as recently as MK: Armageddon having both metal and normal arms in them. The new game looks like they're actually a part of him now and can't remove them. Are they real arms or not?

Anyone else have some great "unsolved mysteries" of Mortal Kombat or things that continue to baffle them? If so, let's hear 'em, and maybe the new game will pull the curtain back on a few of these mysteries (without totally retconning things or making them more confusing).


Good post. Here's my opinion on these:

Sub Zero's scar: I think some people look into the whole "marked for death" thing too much. I don't think Sub Zero got the scar escaping from the Lin Kuei, and I don't believe they gave him a sporting chance of escaping. I don't see the Lin Kuei as the type of organization that would do that. My guess is that he got the scar in a fight during the second tournament in Outworld.

Kintaro's fate: This is a tricky one. There was practically no mention of Kintaro after MK2, except for in an instruction manual and in Deception's konquest. The actual reason is because Midway realized that Kintaro wasn't as good as Goro, and they dropped him completely until they made a game with every MK character. Story wise, that's a little harder to answer. My belief is that he was killed during MK2, and remained dead until after Deception. At this point Shao Kahn was the Emperor again, Goro had helped him reclaim his throne, and the Shokan were favored again. Since Armageddon was imminent, Kahn figured he could use all the help he could get and revived Kintaro using the same method he used to revive Shang Tsung.

Baraka's chest injury: I fully believe Kung Lao is the person who gave him this gruesome injury. How the hell else would he get it? I don't think it has ever been stated in the games, but it's my guess that the Tarkatans have an advanced healing rate, and can survive injuries that prove fatal to most creatures. My guess is that Baraka was stitched up, and was out of commission during the invasion of Earthrealm. After that his wounds were almost fully healed, he came out of hiding and eventually removed the stitches.

Sonya's partner: My guess is that the two were either really good friends, or they had feelings for each other. Either way, Sonya would definitely hold a grudge against Kano.

Kitana and Mileena: I can't really answer this one to be honest. It appears the keep retconning this point in the story unfortunately. It's my belief that they were raised as sisters, and Kitana didn't know about Mileena's true nature until her clone tried to kill her.

Jax's arms: While I used to believe his arms were prosthetics (back when I knew little about the characters or the story), I think they are indeed cybernetic enhancements that he can take off. While it does look like they were painfully grafted on in this new game, I still don't think they are replacements for his actual arms.


Here's a few unsolved mysteries I could think of:

Liu Kang's dragon form: While some fatalities are just random and really aren't something the character can do (Jax turning giant, Scorpion turning into a Scorpion, etc.) It's fairly obvious that Liu Kang can actually turn into a Dragon. How does he do this? Did he accquire this power after MK1, or had he had it all along?

Goro, King of the Shokans: While Goro has always been known as the prince of the shokans, was he actually the king from MK4 and onwards? His father King Gorbak was the king during MK2, but he was never mentioned afterwards. Also, it appears that Goro is the leader of the Shokan people during MK4 and MKDA. One of his combos in Armageddon was called "King of Shokans". Did Goro become the King of the Shokans?

Just what the hell is Shao Kahn: Seriously, what is he? He's a large 8 ft. tall humanoid with immense strength and magical powers, with a monstrous face and a horned head. Is a he of a rare and unique species of creatures? Is he one of a kind? Did he just get that way through magical means, or did he just eat more then his share of steroid wheaties?

Those are all I can think of right now.
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 •03/14/2011 10:51 PM (UTC) •
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Garlador Wrote:
5) Mileena and Kitana - Their storylines change EVERY game nowadays, and this game doesn't seem to buck the trend. They're raised as sisters, they never met before until during MK2's era, Kitana is under a spell, Kitana just doesn't know better, Kitana discovers her parentage before MK2... now during... now after, Mileena grew up hating Kitana since Kahn favored her, Kahn prefers Mileena because Kitana isn't as loyal, Kitana actually has love and mercy for her mutated sister, Kitana hates her as an abomination, Mileena Tarkatan features were an accident, in other instances on purpose, Mileena just wants her father's approval, Mileena wants to take Kitana's place as royalty and rule, regardless of her father's approval, Mileena and Baraka are lovers, sometimes it's never mentioned... Could somebody PLEASE straighten this pair out?


Well I can give you a liiittle bit of help with this one.
MKO user Xiandhou (sp?) wrote a fanfic called "Kitana: Redemption" and by God, it's so good that it might as well be Kitana's canon story. In fact, it's so terrific, I accept it as true. It follows the actual MK story as the games came out, filled in holes, and went REALLY in-depth.


So, the way I like to see it, according to XD's fanfic is that Kitana has been Kahn's assassin for 10,000 years not because of a spell, but because of manipulation. He tricked her into believe he was her father and that it was her fault that sindel committed suicide to she feels some self-hatred.

Enter Mileena only shortly after Kitana's training is complete, and for the next X-thousand years, she thinks that she is her biological sister. Mileena hates Kitana because he always favors Kitana and is a lot less aggressive and more merciful to her. She's jealous basically. The teeth were intentional and there were probably some failed experiemnts before the Mileena we know (SCARY THOUGHT). He wanted to make sure that she would never betray him.

It wasn't until just before the MK2 era that she's told about her true past. She was skeptical at first, but then believes it once some journal entries confirm it. She's torn between who to serve during the MK2 era and finally turns on Kahn. It wasn't until THEN that she sees Mileenas face when they finally battle after Mileena's jealousy takes over and she snaps. The bitches throw down, but in the end Kitana snatches Mileenas wig... er... kills her.

so yuh. smile
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 •03/14/2011 10:52 PM (UTC) •
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Gorozilla Wrote:
Liu Kang's dragon form: While some fatalities are just random and really aren't something the character can do (Jax turning giant, Scorpion turning into a Scorpion, etc.) It's fairly obvious that Liu Kang can actually turn into a Dragon. How does he do this? Did he accquire this power after MK1, or had he had it all along?


I want to say that he's had it all this time. But because in MK1, he was depicted as a monk completely where he wasn't killing anyone in his fatalities. Though they decided to give him more of a murderous set of moves for his finishers, despite that they're still trying to maintain the whole Monk thing with him. He got more serious throughout the series because in the second game, he returned to see his brothers all murdered... Of course, anyone who sees a group of people that were treated like family all dead, who wouldn't want to go out and avenge them? So I'm going to say that he's had it all this time...

Gorozilla Wrote:
Goro, King of the Shokans: While Goro has always been known as the prince of the shokans, was he actually the king from MK4 and onwards? His father King Gorbak was the king during MK2, but he was never mentioned afterwards. Also, it appears that Goro is the leader of the Shokan people during MK4 and MKDA. One of his combos in Armageddon was called "King of Shokans". Did Goro become the King of the Shokans?


Goro has always been somewhat of a royal character throughout the game. Even though they haven't stated him that much as a prince throughout the game, he has never lost that title. He was apparently "killed" by Noob, though saved by Kahn during the Deception part and has just been working with Kahn since he shows loyalty to the Shokans. As Garlador explained it to me in a different thread, whoever shows some sort of royalty towards the Shokan, they will basically team up with them. Goro is still the prince of the Shokans since there's been no other character to succeed his place and he has never actually been killed completely throughout this time.

As far as I know.


Gorozilla Wrote:
Just what the hell is Shao Kahn: Seriously, what is he? He's a large 8 ft. tall humanoid with immense strength and magical powers, with a monstrous face and a horned head. Is a he of a rare and unique species of creatures? Is he one of a kind? Did he just get that way through magical means, or did he just eat more then his share of steroid wheaties?



Kahn used to work as a servant for Onaga. Kahn wanted to betray him and went off to obtain magic from unknown whereabouts, poisoned Onaga, and finally took what he wanted all along. They never stated where he gets his powers, they just state that he wondered away one day and came back poisoning Onaga and becoming emperor.
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 •03/14/2011 10:55 PM (UTC) •
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his face looks like an MKD-MKA tarkatan
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 •03/14/2011 10:59 PM (UTC) •
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Icebaby Wrote:
I will NEVER take the theory that Kung Lao was the one who gave Sub-Zero his scar... Never! I've always believed that it was during the escape of the Automation Program was responsible for his scar.


Same here!!!

When I first saw that scene in Shoalin Monks I started laughing and said that is sooooo bullshit, there is no way in hell that really happened.
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 •03/14/2011 11:00 PM (UTC) •
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MyQueenSindel Wrote:but in the end Kitana snatches Mileenas wig... er... kills her.

so yuh. smile


I lol'd so hard, can't it be both? Is there a link to this fic, I'd love to read it
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 •03/14/2011 11:07 PM (UTC) •
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Wanderer Wrote:
Do dodo dodo dodo! Do dodo dodo dada! (heavy bass snare)



YAAAAAS!!!! NGL, Im pussy-popping to this right now. Thanks for the nostalgia. <3 Back on topic, those are great questions. I love Mileena so #5 is the most important one that needs to be settled.
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 •03/14/2011 11:10 PM (UTC) •
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What is the deal with Kung Lao scarring everyone up? I remember in MK Gold in his ending he scars Goro's chest, he cuts Baraka from the head to his waist, and even if its not cannon he scars Subby! Hes like a Chinese Zorro.
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 •03/14/2011 11:11 PM (UTC) •
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Ghaleon Wrote:
What is the deal with Kung Lao scarring everyone up? I remember in MK Gold in his ending he scars Goro's chest, he cuts Baraka from the head to his waist, and even if its not cannon he scars Subby! Hes like a Chinese Zorro.

Chinese Zoro?lol
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 •03/14/2011 11:11 PM (UTC) •
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One of my biggest questions is why did smoke go from completely human (MK2-Trilogy) to an actual being of smoke (MKD-on)?

And as for Kintaro, I don't know what happened between MK2 and MKA (unless you go by Shaolin Monks), but I always thought his MKA ending was the best! While a lot of the characters (especially the evil characters) got screwed in their endings, Kintaro dominates the realms!
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bbfreak328 Wrote:
One of my biggest questions is why did smoke go from completely human (MK2-Trilogy) to an actual being of smoke (MKD-on)?

And as for Kintaro, I don't know what happened between MK2 and MKA (unless you go by Shaolin Monks), but I always thought his MKA ending was the best! While a lot of the characters (especially the evil characters) got screwed in their endings, Kintaro dominates the realms!


Well technically smoke was human in MK 2, buy was captured before MK 3 and automated into a cyborg. Between that time and MK Deception I guess smoke was defeated and kept as a trophy by Shao Kahn. Noob then snuck in a found his body on display then reprogrammed him and I guess added in his own dark powers and gave him the look he had from that point on till MKA.
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 •03/14/2011 11:39 PM (UTC) •
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Icebaby Wrote:
Gorozilla Wrote:
Just what the hell is Shao Kahn: Seriously, what is he? He's a large 8 ft. tall humanoid with immense strength and magical powers, with a monstrous face and a horned head. Is a he of a rare and unique species of creatures? Is he one of a kind? Did he just get that way through magical means, or did he just eat more then his share of steroid wheaties?



Kahn used to work as a servant for Onaga. Kahn wanted to betray him and went off to obtain magic from unknown whereabouts, poisoned Onaga, and finally took what he wanted all along. They never stated where he gets his powers, they just state that he wondered away one day and came back poisoning Onaga and becoming emperor.


Kahn was like the Raiden of Outworld. He was an advisor to Onaga till one day for an unkown reason he killed Onaga and renounced his Godhood and became emperor
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 •03/14/2011 11:41 PM (UTC) •
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And to think I was entering this thread thinking there would be theories on Mileena's missing Teddy or who ate Scorpion's cake.
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 •03/14/2011 11:43 PM (UTC) •
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Someone stole Mileena's teddy and ate Scorpion's cake?!
Uh-oh, heads are gonna roll.
Literally. grin
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 •03/14/2011 11:52 PM (UTC) •
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johnnycage77 Wrote:
Ghaleon Wrote:
What is the deal with Kung Lao scarring everyone up? I remember in MK Gold in his ending he scars Goro's chest, he cuts Baraka from the head to his waist, and even if its not cannon he scars Subby! Hes like a Chinese Zorro.

Chinese Zoro?lol



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 •03/14/2011 11:54 PM (UTC) •
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I loled so hard at that, Garlador.
Keep it up. wink
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 •03/15/2011 12:04 AM (UTC) •
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What happened to the other Earthrealm gods?

Where are Onaga's Holy Men?

What happened to Mokap after MKDA?

Who are Ashrah's sisters?

What happened to the Orderrealm/Chaosrealm guys after MKD?

Who is Rain's mother?

Why did Argus cheat on Delia?

Does Argus have a mixed child with a darkskinned Edenian?

What happened to the Amulet after Onaga had it?

Who will win? Stryker or Cyrax?

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 •03/15/2011 12:07 AM (UTC) •
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Stryker, hands down. grin
God I love those Shaolin Monks game over hints. tongue
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