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02/25/2011 09:13 PM (UTC)
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Kitana's hair has definitely improved. Im not even gonna lie Kitana's hair is epic. So fitting of her. I was skeptical of them making her hair longer than Sindel's but I think it works better for Kitana. I wasnt sure I would like the ridiculously long hair when they gave it to her in MKDA, but now it looks so awesome. Everyone needs to quit complaining, because look how much heart and soul NRS is putting into this game. Kitana's hair, as well as all the other female's hair will be tweaked to perfection, if not close. A negative thing I have to say is, why are the female's hands and feet still so big? They need to tweak that a little bit, and the heels are still too short.

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Spaceman
02/25/2011 09:50 PM (UTC)
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Wow, is this really all we're getting this week? Three screenshots of shit we've seen already? Lame. So fuckin lame.
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Jaded-Raven
02/25/2011 09:55 PM (UTC)
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Spaceman Wrote:
Wow, is this really all we're getting this week? Three screenshots of shit we've seen already? Lame. So fuckin lame.


Edit: Nevermind, I read the post wrong. XD
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02/25/2011 09:58 PM (UTC)
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I can just see the tweets already.

RandomGuy - "@MK_MortalKombat. Hey, what's for Fatality Friday this week?"

MK_MortalKombat - "@RandomGuy. *insert link to article about Australia banning Mortal Kombat*
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02/25/2011 10:07 PM (UTC)
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Siroj Wrote:
I can just see the tweets already.

RandomGuy - "@MK_MortalKombat. Hey, what's for Fatality Friday this week?"

MK_MortalKombat - "@RandomGuy. *insert link to article about Australia banning Mortal Kombat*


Sucks. In other words time to go outside and play!
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Registheman
02/25/2011 10:14 PM (UTC)
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I thought Rigo said he was working on something like a behind the music like video for this week and next week was going to be the big week.
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queve
02/25/2011 10:49 PM (UTC)
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I'm with the majority regarding Kitana's terrible hair design. I mean, I understand people liking the long hair concept (I personally love it), but, the result itself in these last 2 games is just so ugly its hard not to complain about it.

This is also what I see:

Bezou Wrote:
Excuse my extremely poor drawing here, but this is the problem with Kitana's hair.

The way it looks now makes it seem as though her skull is shaped like this:



Her head does look like a freaking Alien/extraterrestrial.

It looks so oddly shaped because of the way the hair goes on the back and then straight down like a cascade.

Like freaking E.T.

It's not pretty.

petrcech Wrote:
queve Wrote:
You know, I'm not sure if Kitana's hair looks a bit better, or just worse. Judging by those 2 pictures of her.

I absolutely love the concept of fantastic long hair, but, only in the render and concept art picture of her.



I definitely see a tremendous improvement in the physics of Kitana's hair. It flows a lot more smoothly and looks a lot more convincing.
It doesn't look perfect and obviously still needs to be improved, but that also goes to other females that have been announced so far, don't you think?

*Female Pictures*

Long Hair, or female hair is something this game needs more work on, but isn't that much of a big deal IMO. This game is gonna be amazing regardless =)



I'm sorry, buddy, but, you seriously can't make that kind of comparison. It just doesn't work that way.

You are comparing two totally different kinds of imperfection.

Sure the hair animation of all the characters doesn't look 110% perfect (males included), but, none of those pictures you posted (or no other hair design/animation that we've seen so far) looks as bad as Kitana's.

They just don't look terrible. Sure I expect Mileena's and Liu's hair to flow smoothly and not be stiff like the hair in MKD once you performed a Fatality on a character (remember Sindel's decapitated head+super stiff hair?), but, the little moments they look "unnatural" are not really that bad.

You can't compare Kitana's awful hair and its terrible imperfections to the rest of the "hair imperfections" of the other females because they don't even look bad at all.

petrcech Wrote:
unseenwombat Wrote:
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Dang the graphics just keep getting better and better.
Kitana looks beautiful and her hair looks sooo much better now.
Me happy :)
WAT? All they did was add more joints to it. Now it looks like a fat hairy millipede as opposed to a hairy centipede. It needs to be continuously flexible, not jointed.

I'm really gonna be disappointed if that's the best they can do with her. I like her so much otherwise, but this just ruins her for me. That's sad if this is the state of the art in hair animation. It looks more like something that belonged in MK4, not MK9.


Her hair has come a long way, I think it looks much much better now. Plus they have plenty of time to make it better.
Kitana's hair used to fly everywhere and transform into different things, now it stays in place and flows smoother.

Am I the only one who feels this way!!!??


The animation certainly looks somewhat better.

However, even if its been improved, it doesn't mean that it doesn't look bad anymore. Because it does. She looks ugly. I agree with the other comments.

I personally can't wait for her alt and her DLC retro costume.
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BrokenYetStrong
02/25/2011 10:51 PM (UTC)
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Soooooooo someone from TRMK posted a picture of Stryker in gameplay. I'm not sured if I'm allowed to post it I guess but hey google it you'll see it! It appears he has his taser move back but it seems to shoot out of something on his wrist maybe I'm not seeing it right!
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Registheman
02/25/2011 11:34 PM (UTC)
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Nope can't find the Stryker pic any where edit:Now I see it never mind
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02/25/2011 11:48 PM (UTC)
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Hmm can i ask a question,

WTF is this?!

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Jaded-Raven
02/25/2011 11:49 PM (UTC)
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Shohayabusa Wrote:
Hmm can i ask a question,

WTF is this?!



His feather?
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02/26/2011 12:35 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Shohayabusa Wrote:
Hmm can i ask a question,

WTF is this?!



His feather?


Yeah- if you look at the full-size version, you can see the beads that attach it to his hair- it must be flying up in this moment.
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02/26/2011 12:37 AM (UTC)
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Leaning backward abruptly for lightning summon = wind drag forcing feather forward. Physics lecture to be held later today in The Armory, with drinks in the Deadpool after.
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02/26/2011 12:50 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Leaning backward abruptly for lightning summon = wind drag forcing feather forward. Physics lecture to be held later today in The Armory, with drinks in the Deadpool after.


I guess when people say, sarcasm is hard over the internet.

Ah you guys don't get the joke eh, i know its a feather but people are complaining about kitanas and sindels hair, so i throw this up lol. Ohwell shame on me for trying to be funny.furious
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02/26/2011 01:38 AM (UTC)
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I have a quick question, what is that black triangular shape on her ear?
Or maybe that's how her earring looks underneath? Because of the motion?


Kitana's hair started out pretty good in the blue outline, but right when that headband was placed, all hell broke loose.
Where I outlined in yellow, that's where it all starts.

And then it goes on and on and on....-_- when will it end?


Okay, back to the screenshots. Nightwolf looks great! His face reminds me a lot like Litefoot's..

And I do agree with queve about Kung Lao. But I think he's still handsome, just in an older way :)

Look at that guy back there at the Dead Pool, his torso has an opening
and there's an orange-red orb thing on his forehead-seems he's being controlled by something or someone. Or maybe he has a mind of his own?
the eyes look gouged out to me.
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02/26/2011 01:49 AM (UTC)
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^ It is her earring flying up a bit.
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02/26/2011 04:24 AM (UTC)
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unseenwombat Wrote:
skyboy Wrote:
I completely agree with petrcech. Kitana's hair looks great to me. I honestly have no complaints on her hair
I don't even know how you can say that with a straight face. It doesn't look great. Does real life hair look like that? Of course not. Yeah, I know, fantasy game, not real life, blablabla, but we know they're striving for realism in every other aspect of the character models, so why not hair physics?


Again, I think her hair looks fine. As gay as I am, I have the straightest face right now, because I really think you're over exaggerating a tiny problem. Her hair is not perfect, I don't give a shit with such a minor detail. If she's low tier, I'll have a problem, if they kill her off in the new storyline, I'll have a problem. Her hair being fine, but not completely realistic? I'll survive...
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02/26/2011 09:34 AM (UTC)
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FYI: original news post was updated with Facebook Shadows wallpapers which include a glimpse at Sheeva!

Only not, because they're fake.
Big time apology, folks. Unacceptably complacent of me.
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Lokheit
02/26/2011 09:41 AM (UTC)
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Everything leaked by Lupinko is turning to be right, now we can see that Sheeva has the skin rip.
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02/26/2011 09:47 AM (UTC)
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Wait a minute.

Are you sure those are from the facebook? 'Cause I don't see them on there anywhere and I'm SURE the first places I saw the Jax and Sheeva wallpapers was DeviantArt and MKO's own fan submissions board. I am under the distinct impression those two wallpapers are fanmade.

Check it:

http://justmkollum.deviantart.com/gallery/
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02/26/2011 09:54 AM (UTC)
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Kamidogu beat you to it by a few minutes. ;-P
Already did the edit. Did wonder why the images I was forwarded were so small. Little too keen to try to catch-up on what I thought was a missed update. It's been a looong day! Very, very disappointing mistake.
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02/26/2011 10:02 AM (UTC)
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skyboy Wrote:
unseenwombat Wrote:
skyboy Wrote:
I completely agree with petrcech. Kitana's hair looks great to me. I honestly have no complaints on her hair
I don't even know how you can say that with a straight face. It doesn't look great. Does real life hair look like that? Of course not. Yeah, I know, fantasy game, not real life, blablabla, but we know they're striving for realism in every other aspect of the character models, so why not hair physics?


Again, I think her hair looks fine. As gay as I am, I have the straightest face right now, because I really think you're over exaggerating a tiny problem. Her hair is not perfect, I don't give a shit with such a minor detail. If she's low tier, I'll have a problem, if they kill her off in the new storyline, I'll have a problem. Her hair being fine, but not completely realistic? I'll survive...
Then you, son, are nothing more than a fanboy and you will be duly ignored. The majority of us who are not satisfied with whatever garbage NRS throws at us agree that you are objectively and unequivocally wrong.

Whoever posted the pic with all the retarded joints in her hair outlined in yellow illustrated my point about what's wrong with it exactly. Bezou has a point too, but that's not as big a problem as "the joints." It's like her hair is a thick furry arm with about 6 elbows. And when it bends, it's like all they did was add a photoshop stretch to the individual strands and it makes it look even worse. Well, I guess I'll be using her retro skin, which sucks, because I really like this outfit otherwise.
re: the shadows wallpaper, thank goodness they're not official. The skin rip, if it's in, shouldn't leave a skeleton, it should leave Meat. And I really hope it's not retarded like the MK3 version where she just rips it in one fluid motion. They can and should do better than that.
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02/26/2011 10:04 AM (UTC)
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skyboy Wrote:
unseenwombat Wrote:
skyboy Wrote:
I completely agree with petrcech. Kitana's hair looks great to me. I honestly have no complaints on her hair
I don't even know how you can say that with a straight face. It doesn't look great. Does real life hair look like that? Of course not. Yeah, I know, fantasy game, not real life, blablabla, but we know they're striving for realism in every other aspect of the character models, so why not hair physics?


Again, I think her hair looks fine. As gay as I am, I have the straightest face right now, because I really think you're over exaggerating a tiny problem. Her hair is not perfect, I don't give a shit with such a minor detail. If she's low tier, I'll have a problem, if they kill her off in the new storyline, I'll have a problem. Her hair being fine, but not completely realistic? I'll survive...


I know we're all sick to death of this conversation, but with so few updates of late (and my own grief inside at its banning her in Oz)... i'ma have to stop you right now -_-

Her hair does not look "fine". Acceptable, barely. It is not moving in the slightest way like hair moves. It's one big poof of hair, not a big tube with some articulation in it. If this were here MKDA hair, it'd work fine, because there'd be something holding it together to move that way. But it's not. hair doesn't move in uniformity when it's unbound.

If they can't animate it, don't design a character that way (especially when its such a stupid style to begin with. Only place it looks decent is the render)
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02/26/2011 02:47 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:

You can't compare Kitana's awful hair and its terrible imperfections to the rest of the "hair imperfections" of the other females because they don't even look bad at all.
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Actually we can compare Kitana's hair imperfections to the other characters hair imperfections because they all have the same problem, Kitana's is just more obvious because her hair is really long. In the Noob video, we could clearly see Jade's hair was doing the same thing Kitana's hair was doing in the early PAX videos. Like petrcech pointed out, they all have similar hair animation problems, Kitana's are just bigger because she has so much hair. NRS will tweak all the hair so it will be presentable when the game is released.

Whoa, just read the article. Did anyone else notice the 15 hours of gameplay in a robust new story mode? Is this for real? That would be badass.
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02/26/2011 05:12 PM (UTC)
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unseenwombat Wrote:
skyboy Wrote:
unseenwombat Wrote:
skyboy Wrote:
I completely agree with petrcech. Kitana's hair looks great to me. I honestly have no complaints on her hair
I don't even know how you can say that with a straight face. It doesn't look great. Does real life hair look like that? Of course not. Yeah, I know, fantasy game, not real life, blablabla, but we know they're striving for realism in every other aspect of the character models, so why not hair physics?


Again, I think her hair looks fine. As gay as I am, I have the straightest face right now, because I really think you're over exaggerating a tiny problem. Her hair is not perfect, I don't give a shit with such a minor detail. If she's low tier, I'll have a problem, if they kill her off in the new storyline, I'll have a problem. Her hair being fine, but not completely realistic? I'll survive...
Then you, son, are nothing more than a fanboy and you will be duly ignored. The majority of us who are not satisfied with whatever garbage NRS throws at us agree that you are objectively and unequivocally wrong.

Whoever posted the pic with all the retarded joints in her hair outlined in yellow illustrated my point about what's wrong with it exactly. Bezou has a point too, but that's not as big a problem as "the joints." It's like her hair is a thick furry arm with about 6 elbows. And when it bends, it's like all they did was add a photoshop stretch to the individual strands and it makes it look even worse. Well, I guess I'll be using her retro skin, which sucks, because I really like this outfit otherwise.
re: the shadows wallpaper, thank goodness they're not official. The skin rip, if it's in, shouldn't leave a skeleton, it should leave Meat. And I really hope it's not retarded like the MK3 version where she just rips it in one fluid motion. They can and should do better than that.


OPINIONS ARE NOT WRONG. Just because I like a certain gaming aspect that is different from yours does not make me 'just a fanboy'. I see samuhai, queve, and jaded-raven say bad things about her hair in almost every Kitana thread I go to, but you know the difference between them and you? They respect other people's opinion. I'll be the first one to say I think her hair looks great, they'll disagree with me, but I assure you they wouldn't call me 'just a fanboy'. Her hair is fine, I'm sticking to my story, you're not going to dissuade my views, no matter what you call me. If you hate it so much and it's sooo disctracting, then I can't wait to play against you, and I know exactly who I'm using...
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