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02/25/2011 06:37 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
You know, I'm not sure if Kitana's hair looks a bit better, or just worse. Judging by those 2 pictures of her.

I absolutely love the concept of fantastic long hair, but, only in the render and concept art picture of her.

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Grrr... like I didn't hate Nightwolf enough *before* he stole one of Rain's signature moves! furious


Actually, that is very annoying and sucky for Rain. I forgot that Nightwolf didn't (originally) own this move till MKD.

Did Rain have this thunder special move in MKA? Besides the water powers?


Yes, Rain still has it. It is, in fact, the *only* one of his MKT moves he has in MKA. And even that has to be shared with Nightwolf (and oddly, both versions are available as moves in KAK). Add in the fact that his other moves in that game were a generic (and bad-looking) projectile, a rip-off of Liu Kang's Flying Kick, and a generic teleport, and one might see why I'd be *furious* if MK9 Rain turned out to be too much like MKA Rain, gameplay-wise.
And thanks for the support... you rock! grin
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ummm Nightwolf had a lightning move before Rain if im remembering correctly since he appeared first so why are you saying NW ripped off the move?

Nope. The Lightning Bolt popup move debuted as a move for Rain in MKT. Nightwolf didn't, uh, "acquire" it until MKD.
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02/25/2011 06:41 PM (UTC)
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Nightwolf did use lightning in one of his Fatalities in MK3 so, so his usage predates Rain's.

That being said, it doesn't make sense for either one of them to be able to use lightning at all.

Raiden, sure. Rain and Nightwolf....nope.
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02/25/2011 06:45 PM (UTC)
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Bezou Wrote:
Nightwolf did use lightning in one of his Fatalities in MK3 so, so his usage predates Rain's.

That being said, it doesn't make sense for either one of them to be able to use lightning at all.

Raiden, sure. Rain and Nightwolf....nope.


I'm not talking about "usage of lightning"- I'm talking about *that particular move*.
And if Rain has control over weather, why wouldn't it make sense for him to be able to conjure a lightning bolt? He isn't just shooting it out of his hands like Raiden.
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02/25/2011 06:47 PM (UTC)
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shrairyuwarrior Wrote:
ummm Nightwolf had a lightning move before Rain if im remembering correctly since he appeared first so why are you saying NW ripped off the move?


Nightwolf didn't originally have the lightning move in the 2d games, he got it in deception, Rain on the other hand had it in umk3. That being said if Rain is in this game or even as dlc I wouldn't get my hopes up for his lightning special to make a return, there's a chance they'd give it to both of them but I find it very low. Edit:
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Nightwolf did use lightning in one of his Fatalities in MK3 so, so his usage predates Rain's.
Oh ya, I forgot all about that.
Im still hoping that all these screens and videos we have been getting are from an in game replay/video editing feature and you can post the pictures and videos online like Call Of Duty Black Ops
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02/25/2011 06:54 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
You know, I'm not sure if Kitana's hair looks a bit better, or just worse. Judging by those 2 pictures of her.

I absolutely love the concept of fantastic long hair, but, only in the render and concept art picture of her.



I definitely see a tremendous improvement in the physics of Kitana's hair. It flows a lot more smoothly and looks a lot more convincing.
It doesn't look perfect and obviously still needs to be improved, but that also goes to other females that have been announced so far, don't you think?







Long Hair, or female hair is something this game needs more work on, but isn't that much of a big deal IMO. This game is gonna be amazing regardless =)

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petrcech Wrote:
Dang the graphics just keep getting better and better.
Kitana looks beautiful and her hair looks sooo much better now.
Me happy :)
WAT? All they did was add more joints to it. Now it looks like a fat hairy millipede as opposed to a hairy centipede. It needs to be continuously flexible, not jointed.

I'm really gonna be disappointed if that's the best they can do with her. I like her so much otherwise, but this just ruins her for me. That's sad if this is the state of the art in hair animation. It looks more like something that belonged in MK4, not MK9.


Her hair has come a long way, I think it looks much much better now. Plus they have plenty of time to make it better.
Kitana's hair used to fly everywhere and transform into different things, now it stays in place and flows smoother.

Am I the only one who feels this way!!!??
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02/25/2011 06:56 PM (UTC)
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Deathology Wrote:
shrairyuwarrior Wrote:
ummm Nightwolf had a lightning move before Rain if im remembering correctly since he appeared first so why are you saying NW ripped off the move?


Nightwolf didn't originally have the lightning move in the 2d games, he got it in deception, Rain on the other hand had it in umk3. That being said if Rain is in this game or even as dlc I wouldn't get my hopes up for his lightning special to make a return, there's a chance they'd give it to both of them but I find it very low.


I would be inclined to believe the same thing, except:
Square Wave is still used by Sonya and Kitana
Slide is still used by Sub-zero and Reptile
Teleport Punch is still used by Ermac and Scorpion
Slide Kick is still used by Johnny Cage and Jade...
IOW, they obviously don't have a problem if two characters share a certain move. That said, they would probably differentiate them in some way other than just the pose they take while doing the move.
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Nightwolf did use lightning in one of his Fatalities in MK3 so, so his usage predates Rain's.
Oh ya, I forgot all about that.
Yes, but A- that was just a fatality, and B- he required his tomahawk to do it. The whole "summoning a lightning bolt from the skies with your *bare hand*" thing was Rain's thing. Nightwolf was just a glorified Lightning Rod, then later, a thief tongue
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02/25/2011 06:59 PM (UTC)
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I think I've figured out part of the reason why Kitana's hair acts so erratically.

It's anchored on the headband, which is on top of her head. So the hair bounces up over top of the hair in the front. Gives it an odd shape.

If I were NRS, I would reposition the main anchor to the mid back of her head. I think it would behave a lot better.
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02/25/2011 07:04 PM (UTC)
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petrcech Wrote:
queve Wrote:
You know, I'm not sure if Kitana's hair looks a bit better, or just worse. Judging by those 2 pictures of her.

I absolutely love the concept of fantastic long hair, but, only in the render and concept art picture of her.



I definitely see a tremendous improvement in the physics of Kitana's hair. It flows a lot more smoothly and looks a lot more convincing.
It doesn't look perfect and obviously still needs to be improved, but that also goes to other females that have been announced so far, don't you think?







Long Hair, or female hair is something this game needs more work on, but isn't that much of a big deal IMO. This game is gonna be amazing regardless =)

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petrcech Wrote:
Dang the graphics just keep getting better and better.
Kitana looks beautiful and her hair looks sooo much better now.
Me happy :)
WAT? All they did was add more joints to it. Now it looks like a fat hairy millipede as opposed to a hairy centipede. It needs to be continuously flexible, not jointed.

I'm really gonna be disappointed if that's the best they can do with her. I like her so much otherwise, but this just ruins her for me. That's sad if this is the state of the art in hair animation. It looks more like something that belonged in MK4, not MK9.


Her hair has come a long way, I think it looks much much better now. Plus they have plenty of time to make it better.
Kitana's hair used to fly everywhere and transform into different things, now it stays in place and flows smoother.

Am I the only one who feels this way!!!??
Yeah, I think you are. It still looks terrible and hasn't come so long of a way since we first saw it. They have about a month and a half to fix it. I have my doubts that they're even working on it. However, the individual pieces of aggregate in the broken concrete on the dead-pool walkway look fantastic. :rolleyes:

I agree that all the characters with long hair need work. Kitana's is just so much longer that it's that much more obvious. Even Nightwolf's hair looks crappy, but is less noticeable.
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02/25/2011 07:05 PM (UTC)
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I completely agree with petrcech. Kitana's hair looks great to me. I honestly have no complaints on her hair and I'll sure she'll look great in the next vid she's in *hopefully kicking ass! No more beating up the beauty!*
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02/25/2011 07:08 PM (UTC)
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I completely agree with petrcech. Kitana's hair looks great to me. I honestly have no complaints on her hair and I'll sure she'll look great in the next vid she's in *hopefully kicking ass! No more beating up the beauty!*


No kidding!
I'm tired of two of my favorite characters always being the punching bag.
We're *long* overdue for a video of tag-team Kitana and Reptile kicking everyone else's collective ass grin
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02/25/2011 07:13 PM (UTC)
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skyboy Wrote:
I completely agree with petrcech. Kitana's hair looks great to me. I honestly have no complaints on her hair
I don't even know how you can say that with a straight face. It doesn't look great. Does real life hair look like that? Of course not. Yeah, I know, fantasy game, not real life, blablabla, but we know they're striving for realism in every other aspect of the character models, so why not hair physics?
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02/25/2011 07:14 PM (UTC)
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drpvfx Wrote:
Deathology Wrote:
shrairyuwarrior Wrote:
ummm Nightwolf had a lightning move before Rain if im remembering correctly since he appeared first so why are you saying NW ripped off the move?


Nightwolf didn't originally have the lightning move in the 2d games, he got it in deception, Rain on the other hand had it in umk3. That being said if Rain is in this game or even as dlc I wouldn't get my hopes up for his lightning special to make a return, there's a chance they'd give it to both of them but I find it very low.


I would be inclined to believe the same thing, except:
Square Wave is still used by Sonya and Kitana
Slide is still used by Sub-zero and Reptile
Teleport Punch is still used by Ermac and Scorpion
Slide Kick is still used by Johnny Cage and Jade...
IOW, they obviously don't have a problem if two characters share a certain move. That said, they would probably differentiate them in some way other than just the pose they take while doing the move.

The only ones I really noticed that had same special are Sub-zero and Reptile. I hadn't noticed any of the other ones, at least not back to back to see the resemblance anyways.
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02/25/2011 07:15 PM (UTC)
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- Wasn't gonna say anything but, now I do hope they can get the physics together on the hair issue. Kitana looks even worse with it like it is. I already didn't like the costume, but I'm getting used to it. Having a bad hair day isn't making it better though.

- Cyrax looks good from that angle. Looks bossy.

- I want THAT Shang Tsung. I hope it's his alternate costume. He looks like he's about ready to get up out of the chair! Just thought...that's gonna be DLC isn't it?

- Nightwolf is too big/bulky/muscular. Needs more Sal DiVita (spelling?)

Everything looks great otherwise, very detailed. I can't wait to get my hands on it.
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02/25/2011 07:23 PM (UTC)
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The more I see of Shang Tsung's Throne Room, the creepier it gets. You've got a visibly aging, dimly lit room decorated with skeletal Buddha statues, blood red snake banners, and faded, chipping paint. There is a storm raging outside and a decrepit old man watching your every move. I'd say the design team deserves an A+ here.

Kitana's hair... yeah, its still pretty crappy but it does look like they've been working on it. Remember that balloon animal they had glued to the back of her head when she was first revealed? At least now it folds in multiple places.

Always great to see Cyrax's net in action.

And finally, Kung Lao can pull some krazy splits!
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02/25/2011 07:23 PM (UTC)
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Seriously, Mortal Kombat is stunningly beautiful... I am amazed on how far the MK team has come when it comes to graphics. The only little detail I dislike is Kitana's (and Sindel's) hair animation! That is the only thing I think NRS should work on graphic wise to perfect the game.

But everything else looks awesome. The gameplay runs smoothly, the characters look beautiful, the stages are incredibly detailed and the special effects on the special moves are fitting and looking good. So far the best looking Mortal Kombat ever made!
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02/25/2011 07:31 PM (UTC)
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Excuse my extremely poor drawing here, but this is the problem with Kitana's hair.

The way it looks now makes it seem as though her skull is shaped like this:

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02/25/2011 07:32 PM (UTC)
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Kitana is packing on them abs!!!

I like the Nightwolf pic the most out of the three.
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02/25/2011 07:33 PM (UTC)
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Bezou Wrote:
Excuse my extremely poor drawing here, but this is the problem with Kitana's hair.

The way it looks now makes it seem as though her skull is shaped like this:



No no, I know exactly why Kitana's and Sindel's hair are like it is now... HAIRSPRAY! Lots and lots of hairspray! It explains how it's obtained the rubbery effect.
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02/25/2011 07:55 PM (UTC)
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I can't believe you guys are getting so psyched over these screenshots. 3 images of characters we've already seen to death, just in different poses.
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02/25/2011 07:57 PM (UTC)
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skyboy Wrote:
I completely agree with petrcech. Kitana's hair looks great to me. I honestly have no complaints on her hair and I'll sure she'll look great in the next vid she's in *hopefully kicking ass! No more beating up the beauty!*


Finally I get some support! =)
I don't think her hair looks PERFECT, but looks pretty good. PPL just like to pick on the Edenian Princess. Who cares tho, it's only gonna make things sweeter when I kick themmm assss online with KITANA!

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skyboy Wrote:
I completely agree with petrcech. Kitana's hair looks great to me. I honestly have no complaints on her hair and I'll sure she'll look great in the next vid she's in *hopefully kicking ass! No more beating up the beauty!*


No kidding!
I'm tired of two of my favorite characters always being the punching bag.
We're *long* overdue for a video of tag-team Kitana and Reptile kicking everyone else's collective ass grin


haha that would be awesome!

To this day I don't understand why in Subzero's Vignette, they had Reptile destroyed instead of Scorpion. WTF!?

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petrcech Wrote:
queve Wrote:
You know, I'm not sure if Kitana's hair looks a bit better, or just worse. Judging by those 2 pictures of her.

I absolutely love the concept of fantastic long hair, but, only in the render and concept art picture of her.



I definitely see a tremendous improvement in the physics of Kitana's hair. It flows a lot more smoothly and looks a lot more convincing.
It doesn't look perfect and obviously still needs to be improved, but that also goes to other females that have been announced so far, don't you think?







Long Hair, or female hair is something this game needs more work on, but isn't that much of a big deal IMO. This game is gonna be amazing regardless =)

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petrcech Wrote:
Dang the graphics just keep getting better and better.
Kitana looks beautiful and her hair looks sooo much better now.
Me happy :)
WAT? All they did was add more joints to it. Now it looks like a fat hairy millipede as opposed to a hairy centipede. It needs to be continuously flexible, not jointed.

I'm really gonna be disappointed if that's the best they can do with her. I like her so much otherwise, but this just ruins her for me. That's sad if this is the state of the art in hair animation. It looks more like something that belonged in MK4, not MK9.


Her hair has come a long way, I think it looks much much better now. Plus they have plenty of time to make it better.
Kitana's hair used to fly everywhere and transform into different things, now it stays in place and flows smoother.

Am I the only one who feels this way!!!??
Yeah, I think you are. It still looks terrible and hasn't come so long of a way since we first saw it. They have about a month and a half to fix it. I have my doubts that they're even working on it. However, the individual pieces of aggregate in the broken concrete on the dead-pool walkway look fantastic. :rolleyes:

I agree that all the characters with long hair need work. Kitana's is just so much longer that it's that much more obvious. Even Nightwolf's hair looks crappy, but is less noticeable.


Well I'm obviously not the only one who feels this way ;).....Idk what else to tell you. I love Kitana but if something is wrong with her outfit or just something about her, I say it. At first I was very upset with her hairstyle, but now I can honestly say Im a happy Kitana fan. Her hair was been inproved tremendously and if you can't see that, idk...Long hair doesn't look perfect in this game, but it looks good and I'm okay with that.
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02/25/2011 07:59 PM (UTC)
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Siroj Wrote:
I can't believe you guys are getting so psyched over these screenshots. 3 images of characters we've already seen to death, just in different poses.


It's not always about characters... It's a bout the beauty of the game graphics. That's what screenshots are all about! Capturing the beautiful moments of the game and displaying them to the world. That's the point of ALL still-photos, be it a photograph, a painting or a screenshot like this. They are made so we can look at them and see the details of the game.


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PPL just like to pick on the Edenian Princess.


Now, that's simply unfair. Kitana is one of m favourite characters and I love both her looks and gameplay! That doesn't mean her hair animation isn't bad though. Because it IS bad! It doesn't have a natural flow like hair in that style would have, and it's a damn shame, but it's still a fact. You can choose to accept it or not, but it doesn't change the fact that the hair animation is bad.
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02/25/2011 08:14 PM (UTC)
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I don't even understand why it has to be so ridiculously long??? It could be Nightwolf's length and she'd still look great. Or why not an updo? Didn't they have buns back in the day? That would make more sense for a fight and solve the hair problem.

Oh and Nightwolf looks awesome, love it!
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02/25/2011 08:26 PM (UTC)
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I'm liking the execution of Sektor, but he still looks like plastic to me, and I wish his metal was a purer red. I like like leg gears for hips.

I like those cool torch holders in the background of the palace.
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02/25/2011 08:27 PM (UTC)
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Platinumstorm Wrote:
I'm liking the execution of Sektor, but he still looks like plastic to me, and I wish his metal was a purer red. I like like leg gears for hips.

I like those cool torch holders in the background of the palace.


I think Sektor's colours appear like Iron Man's hot red coating.
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