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07/13/2011 07:43 PM (UTC)
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And if someone wants to say that Rain is a useless piece of shit with no redeeming qualities who never should've been included in the Mortal Kombat universe and destroys the integrity of the colour purple just by wearing it, that's their right too.

I don't know why anyone would say that, mind you. Purple is my favourite colour. Besides black, but that's more of a shade.


And I would respect that. That's their opinion. A lot of people have said that and I just roll my eyes and laugh.

But it's a completely different thing when someone takes your post and utterly switches it around and then you have members of the peanut gallery popping in making things waaay more dramatic than they are.

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07/13/2011 07:45 PM (UTC)
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Then you're a better man that I've given you credit for.
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07/13/2011 07:49 PM (UTC)
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why all the comparisons between rain and quan chi?
im not gonna stamp on rain fans' parades (and i think he looks pretty cool) but there has NEVER been a single point in the mk canon (pre retcon or after) where rain was a more important character than quan chi. never.


Who said Rain was a more important character?

This isn't about Rain being more important. I think what they're saying is that he's the only classic character who was AXED!

There's a ton of characters who are in the game that didn't do much of shit(Sheeva anyone?) and yet still made it. Why? Because they are classic characters.

Nobody is saying that "Rain is such a vital character to the series!", this isn't about that. This is about having all the classic characters present.

This game is for the classics. Period. And all Quan Chi did was show up and piss everyone off. So sit down.

But don't put words in my mouth, I'm not saying Quan Chi should've been axed. I'm just saying its MORE than understandable why people would want Rain in more than Quan Chi.

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and no, rain is no more a silly character than any other, but thats doesnt change the fact that he WAS originally designed as a joke character.


Hold on a goddamn second.

Please, PLEASE explain to me the point behind this? I think we're all aware that Rain was BASED on a joke, ha ha ha, but what does that have to do with him NOW? Are you saying we should still look at him as a joke? Are you saying we should still treat him like Mokap? If we go by your logic than Ermac and Skarlet should still be considered as glitches. Please, tell me what is the point in sitting here saying "Um yaaa, Rain um isn't any dumber than like the other characterzzz but he was like still based on a joke"

And? Your point?

Tell me. What was the point of that? I'm waiting. Take me to church.


yeah, well, my comment wasnt necessarily directed at you, but i'll reply anyway.

and yes, I HAVE seen people saying quan chi should not have been in this game, and rain had.

CLASSIC CHARACTER? are you taking the fucking piss? a character who first appeared as a palette swap, and i repeat a JOKE CHARACTER, and then disappeared until mortal kombat everybody-comes-back armageddon? classic fucking character my arse.

this game was a retelling of mk1-3. guess who didnt appear in mk1-3? that's right. fucking rain. he had no more of a right to be in this game than fucking chameleon.

more people want rain than quan chi? actually, i disagree with you there. quan chi is a far more popular character in my opinion. and quan chi, who (i may be wrong) appeared BEFORE rain in mk mythologies? is that right? so he's more of a classic character than fucking rain anyway. so, to use your retarded phrase, "sit down".

(just for the record, i really like rain and think he looks badass in this game.)
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07/13/2011 08:12 PM (UTC)
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CLASSIC CHARACTER? are you taking the fucking piss? a character who first appeared as a palette swap.

Because no character in the history of Mortal Kombat have ever appeared as a pallet swap before. Un huh.

and i repeat a JOKE CHARACTER

*Yawns*, we went over this.

and then disappeared until mortal kombat everybody-comes-back armageddon?

Omg I know right? Just like Sheeva, Stryker, Kitntaro, and guess what- They're in this game.

this game was a retelling of mk1-3. guess who didnt appear in mk1-3? that's right. fucking rain. he had no more of a right to be in this game than fucking chameleon.

Boon have said numerous times that this game is all about MK1-UMK3, and guess who was in UMK3? Besides, NRS considers UMK3 and MKT as MK3 because guess what? They pretty much fucking are. I even remember in Khameleon's MKA trading card one of the developers saying she was in "MK3 for the N64" aka Trilogy.

It's only the fans who makes such a big difference between those three games. It's the same shit. And yes, Chameleon, like it or not, is a CLASSIC CHARACTER.

A classic character isn't defined by how many games one appears in, if that was the case than Stryker and Sheeva wouldn't bare that title either. A classic character is anyone from the 2D period. And like I just said, MK3/UMK3/MKT is the same exact shit.

What new material does UMK3/MKT have that MK3 doesn't? Besides a few new characters and a slight game-play difference?

That's like NRS putting out an expansion of this game with a few new characters and everyone calling it "MK10".

more people want rain than quan chi?

Four words my friend. Learn...to...fucking...read. I never said that. I said "I can see why some people would want Rain in over Quan Chi". I didn't say a damn thing about more people wanting Rain than Quan Chi, but the fact of the matter is, for this particular game, they just might. This is all about the classic characters, 2D, nostalgia and Rain is the only character from that era to be axed. Quan Chi was never in that era. So if he was made DLC I doubt you would have seen as much outrage like you did when Rain was made DLC.

And quan chi, who (i may be wrong) appeared BEFORE rain in mk mythologies?

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Rain first appeared in UMK3 in 1996. I may be wrong, but isn't that before 1997? Lmao, you need to brush up on your facts.

just for the record, i really like rain and think he looks badass in this game.

I know right? He looks fabulous.grin
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07/13/2011 09:11 PM (UTC)
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Why do people care what other people think about their favourite characters? I wouldn't give a shit about what other people think about Rain, Jade or whoever I like. I simply laugh at them, because most of their reasons for disliking a character are most of the time hilariously stupid.

Ahnka, you shouldn't take it so personally when people dislike Rain or make such ignorant comments about him. Learn to wave it off and move on with your life. Because in the end, it doesn't matter what others think.
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07/13/2011 09:17 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Why do people care what other people think about their favourite characters? I wouldn't give a shit about what other people think about Rain, Jade or whoever I like. I simply laugh at them, because most of their reasons for disliking a character are most of the time hilariously stupid.

Ahnka, you shouldn't take it so personally when people dislike Rain or make such ignorant comments about him. Learn to wave it off and move on with your life. Because in the end, it doesn't matter what others think.

Jaded to the rescue! glasses
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07/13/2011 09:24 PM (UTC)
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mkwhopper Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Why do people care what other people think about their favourite characters? I wouldn't give a shit about what other people think about Rain, Jade or whoever I like. I simply laugh at them, because most of their reasons for disliking a character are most of the time hilariously stupid.

Ahnka, you shouldn't take it so personally when people dislike Rain or make such ignorant comments about him. Learn to wave it off and move on with your life. Because in the end, it doesn't matter what others think.

Jaded to the rescue! glasses


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Well, I can get into heated arguements with people as well - it's been seen before - but I have learned from it that in the end, it doesn't really matter what people think. Everyone have different views and opinions about everything, and that's how it should be. A forum like this is to discuss those things and NOT to just find people who agree with one another. So there's absolutely no reason to try and change other people's opinions.

The best thing we can do is inform the ignorant, and then let them make their own opinion about it. E.g., Rain has a new move. It looks unmistakably like Sektor's teleport uppercut. There is a difference though - it's faster and Rain uses a kick instead of a punch. When knowing this, some people might see that it's not a copy-paste move stolen from Sektor, but that it is indeed alike in its execution.

Of course there are some people who continue to say it is just like Sektor's, though it isn't, and those are the people we should simply ignore because they just WON'T even try to change their minds, even when proven wrong. And then we move on with our lives.
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07/13/2011 09:47 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
mkwhopper Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Why do people care what other people think about their favourite characters? I wouldn't give a shit about what other people think about Rain, Jade or whoever I like. I simply laugh at them, because most of their reasons for disliking a character are most of the time hilariously stupid.

Ahnka, you shouldn't take it so personally when people dislike Rain or make such ignorant comments about him. Learn to wave it off and move on with your life. Because in the end, it doesn't matter what others think.

Jaded to the rescue! glasses


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Well, I can get into heated arguements with people as well - it's been seen before - but I have learned from it that in the end, it doesn't really matter what people think. Everyone have different views and opinions about everything, and that's how it should be. A forum like this is to discuss those things and NOT to just find people who agree with one another. So there's absolutely no reason to try and change other people's opinions.

The best thing we can do is inform the ignorant, and then let them make their own opinion about it. E.g., Rain has a new move. It looks unmistakably like Sektor's teleport uppercut. There is a difference though - it's faster and Rain uses a kick instead of a punch. When knowing this, some people might see that it's not a copy-paste move stolen from Sektor, but that it is indeed alike in its execution.

Of course there are some people who continue to say it is just like Sektor's, though it isn't, and those are the people we should simply ignore because they just WON'T even try to change their minds, even when proven wrong. And then we move on with our lives.

I agree. Alot of people are saying Rain is copying other characters moves and that really ticks me off. I feel like saying something but I don't want to start shit
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07/13/2011 10:04 PM (UTC)
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One of the best fatality wallpapers,just badass. Though wish there were some blood mixed with water,which would make sense.

And Ahnka,with such overprotectiveness you won't survive till MK10 to see Rain there,so save your nerves grin

One thing bugging me about his bio though. I posted it in other thread but nobody saw it and in the end thread was closed sad

Aaaaanyways,the other thing that doesn't make sense is how Rain can be so stupidly naive if he is arrogant and treacherous. So WHAT that he sold out his people,will it make Shao Kahn to trust him and give him an army? Really? Shao Kahn may be brute,but he ain't stupid enough to trust a backstabber. And Rain should know that too...If Rain believes Shao Kahn on his word,then he is stupid....
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07/13/2011 10:27 PM (UTC)
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Noobsmoke92 Wrote:
One of the best fatality wallpapers,just badass. Though wish there were some blood mixed with water,which would make sense.

And Ahnka,with such overprotectiveness you won't survive till MK10 to see Rain there,so save your nerves grin

One thing bugging me about his bio though. I posted it in other thread but nobody saw it and in the end thread was closed sad

Aaaaanyways,the other thing that doesn't make sense is how Rain can be so stupidly naive if he is arrogant and treacherous. So WHAT that he sold out his people,will it make Shao Kahn to trust him and give him an army? Really? Shao Kahn may be brute,but he ain't stupid enough to trust a backstabber. And Rain should know that too...If Rain believes Shao Kahn on his word,then he is stupid....

This. Villians never keep there word.
Shinnok's an example
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07/13/2011 10:32 PM (UTC)
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Not as good as Shang Tsung's, but it's alright.
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07/13/2011 10:37 PM (UTC)
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He's probably going to pee himself in his Babality
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07/13/2011 10:41 PM (UTC)
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He's probably going to pee himself in his Babality


Subby has that.

I take it he'll cry tears and swim away.

And yeah I stole that from someone. I forgot who.
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07/13/2011 10:41 PM (UTC)
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Mediocre at best. Hah just kidding actually a good wallpaper. Rain still not a favorite of mine.

I read some of the things about classic characters. Are they classic because they appeared in the first three games?
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07/13/2011 10:41 PM (UTC)
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mkwhopper Wrote:
Noobsmoke92 Wrote:
One of the best fatality wallpapers,just badass. Though wish there were some blood mixed with water,which would make sense.

And Ahnka,with such overprotectiveness you won't survive till MK10 to see Rain there,so save your nerves grin

One thing bugging me about his bio though. I posted it in other thread but nobody saw it and in the end thread was closed sad

Aaaaanyways,the other thing that doesn't make sense is how Rain can be so stupidly naive if he is arrogant and treacherous. So WHAT that he sold out his people,will it make Shao Kahn to trust him and give him an army? Really? Shao Kahn may be brute,but he ain't stupid enough to trust a backstabber. And Rain should know that too...If Rain believes Shao Kahn on his word,then he is stupid....

This. Villians never keep there word.
Shinnok's an example


That's what I am saying,that is stupid of Rain to think,that Shao Kahn will grant him an army
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07/13/2011 10:42 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
mkwhopper Wrote:
He's probably going to pee himself in his Babality


Subby has that.

I take it he'll cry tears and swim away.

And yeah I stole that from someone. I forgot who.

Either that, or something water related
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07/13/2011 10:44 PM (UTC)
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Mediocre at best. Hah just kidding actually a good wallpaper. Rain still not a favorite of mine.

I read some of the things about classic characters. Are they classic because they appeared in the first three games?


Pretty much. At least that's how I see it.

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07/13/2011 10:45 PM (UTC)
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Noobsmoke92 Wrote:
mkwhopper Wrote:
Noobsmoke92 Wrote:
One of the best fatality wallpapers,just badass. Though wish there were some blood mixed with water,which would make sense.

And Ahnka,with such overprotectiveness you won't survive till MK10 to see Rain there,so save your nerves grin

One thing bugging me about his bio though. I posted it in other thread but nobody saw it and in the end thread was closed sad

Aaaaanyways,the other thing that doesn't make sense is how Rain can be so stupidly naive if he is arrogant and treacherous. So WHAT that he sold out his people,will it make Shao Kahn to trust him and give him an army? Really? Shao Kahn may be brute,but he ain't stupid enough to trust a backstabber. And Rain should know that too...If Rain believes Shao Kahn on his word,then he is stupid....

This. Villians never keep there word.
Shinnok's an example


That's what I am saying,that is stupid of Rain to think,that Shao Kahn will grant him an army

I was agreeing with you wth. I was just using a villain as an exampleglasses
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07/13/2011 10:58 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
maximus12 Wrote:
Mediocre at best. Hah just kidding actually a good wallpaper. Rain still not a favorite of mine.

I read some of the things about classic characters. Are they classic because they appeared in the first three games?


Pretty much. At least that's how I see it.



It does make sense. The classic skins do say classic as in being in the first three games. Classic thing figured out my mind is at ease.
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07/13/2011 11:17 PM (UTC)
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I would say that every character who starred in an MK game up to MK Trilogy is considered as a classic character. They were from the 2D era before the game transcended onto the 3D era. So therefore, characters like Kai, Reiko, Tanya etc. aren't considered as classic.

Shinnok, Quan Chi, Fujin and Sareena are discussable, since they didn't appear in a fighting game until the 3D era, but they did appear in the MK Mythologies game which was 2D.

As for Rain's babality, I would love to see him cry in a very anime'ish way, streams of water flowing from his eyes. That would be rather cool. He will probably conjure a rain-cloud which starts to rain at him which will make him cry or something like that.
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07/13/2011 11:23 PM (UTC)
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Rain's Babality should be a parody of THIS tongue
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07/13/2011 11:27 PM (UTC)
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mkwhopper Wrote:
Rain's Babality should be a parody of THIS tongue


That would actually be awesome! I can just imagine it...

Rain conjures a bubble and gets caught up in it himself. The bubble floats just above the ground and Rain can't get out of it which makes him start crying. Brilliant idea, Whopper!
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07/13/2011 11:39 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
mkwhopper Wrote:
Rain's Babality should be a parody of THIS tongue


That would actually be awesome! I can just imagine it...

Rain conjures a bubble and gets caught up in it himself. The bubble floats just above the ground and Rain can't get out of it which makes him start crying. Brilliant idea, Whopper!

Thanks! grin Trying to find something involving: bubbles and a baby crying, then I thought, "Hey, how about Baby Mario?" tongue
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07/13/2011 11:47 PM (UTC)
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mkwhopper Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
mkwhopper Wrote:
Rain's Babality should be a parody of THIS tongue


That would actually be awesome! I can just imagine it...

Rain conjures a bubble and gets caught up in it himself. The bubble floats just above the ground and Rain can't get out of it which makes him start crying. Brilliant idea, Whopper!

Thanks! grin Trying to find something involving: bubbles and a baby crying, then I thought, "Hey, how about Baby Mario?" tongue

That is a great idea. Mine would be: he starts crying and a flower grows next to him,(like in his old friendship) but then he smashes it up.
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07/13/2011 11:52 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:

I take it he'll cry tears and swim away.

And yeah I stole that from someone. I forgot who.


I'll go with crying a puddle that he "melts" into.

That, or forming his tears into a ball or something.
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