Well, personally, Shujinko is one of my least favorite MK characters of all time. I hated him. He was a move-stealing, clumsy, incompetent hack who screwed things up for so many people, in addition to having an insanely generic look and fatalities.

Characters like Drahmin and even Hsu Hao get a lot of hate (even from me), but Shujinko was just one of my most hated characters in the franchise, especially after being forced to play through Konquest mode with him. Rare is the game that makes the lead character with the most dialogue and story so much less interesting or likeable than everyone else around him.

I'd be all for Shujinko disappearing into the void alongside characters like Jarek, Mokap, and Kobra.

Well in his Konquest, Shujinko wasn't in Earth or Outworld at this point in time, he missed the tournaments. He was in the Netherealm. Or maybe a jail cell in Seido, considering there's a huge continuity error surrounding that part of the game and how fast he aged.

I think it was the Netherrealm because of that Ermac/Ashrah stuff and Kahn's "allies.."

Wherever, whenever Shujinko might be in the timeline he can remain there according to me. But i think he can still happen to become a decent hero or just a character amongst others one day.

Whatever happens in the sequels, we will most likely be granted another twist that will screw up things a lot more if they intend to redo MKDA/MKD so, basically Shujinko could end up doing something good this time around. Let alone the fact that he atoned for his mistakes, i think he'll simply die off or get killed by Raiden if he still brings back Onaga.

I actually like how he ties into everything but I still wouldn't want him back. He was such a pain to use in deception.

The Ermac/Ashrah missions happened the first time he went to the Netherealm, when he was still young.

The second time he went to the Netherealm, it was right as he was about to attend the MK1 tournament, Damashi shows up before he can get on the boat and goes "You trained with Nightwolf and purged the evil from your soul? You need that evil! Go to Hell and soak up more evil!" So Shujinko misses the tournament to go to the Netherealm, and all of a sudden the game inexplicably skips all the way to the end of MK4/beginning of Deadly Alliance because as soon as you get there, you meet/train with Scorpion while he's trying to find Quan Chi to get revenge on him, and you see how Moloch and Drahmin join up with Quan.

Then you leave Hell for Outworld and do some DA-related stuff, like Raiden asks for your help fighting the Deadly Alliance, and you train Li Mei to defend her village against Kano...but then Hotaru arrests you for breaking a curfew and you spend so many years in jail that Shujinko's age changes again, which is impossible because DA and Deception happen back to back, there are no years in between, there's not even, like, DAYS in between.

So my theory is that they meant to have certain events happen in a different order and fucked it all up, and Shujinko should have been in jail from MK1 until Deadly Alliance, because then actual years would've passed for him to get older and it would make a lot better explanation for where the hell he was during the events of all the games than "He was just wandering around Hell for like ten years straight, walkin' around being bored and soaking up evil."

Shujinko was aged by a "time dialation" type effect in the Chaosrealm when he walked up to the Chaosrealm Kamidogu, iirc.

He was invited to MK1 by Shang, but had more important errands. He also met Kenshi early too, didn't he?



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That only happened one time, while he was standing in some magic water. The rest of the times he ages, the game presents it as an actual natural passage of time. I'm just pointing out that one of these passages of time is chronologically impossible. The game literally says he spent years in jail sitting and waiting for his day in court because of how slow the Seidan criminal justice system is, but he went to jail during MKDA and got out of jail...during MKDA!

As for the second point, he met Kenshi just before MK1 and tried to help Kenshi get into the tournament. That's not a continuity error, Shang blinded Kenshi well before the tournament, so Kenshi certainly could have gone to the tournament, he just somehow missed the boat...probably because he's fucking blind, lol.

Ninja'd.

Well, it's already been mentioned that Shujinko wasn't around at the time as he was other places in these points of the timeline, yet I would still have liked to see him just pop out somewhere as a sort of easter egg. Just have him be part of the background or something during the Story Mode. Like, have him run through the trees when Smoke attacks Kano and Shang Tsung or something like that.

This would have been a perfect mission for Smoke and Sub-Zero to be sent on by Raiden. Stop Shujinko at all costs.

Do all the laws of nature apply to all the realms exactly the same way? Considering that there already was this aging liquid from the rival of Nivea beauty lotion corporation in Chaosrealm, could it be that time passes in a slower pace in Orderrealm for convenience purposes like imprisonment?

Are you guys trying to make sense out of the MK storyline again? *sigh* How many times do I have to tell you? Stop doing that or you'll end up hurting yourselves!

I honestly wouldnt be suprised if we never hear from Old man 'Jinko again...

I fucking hate Shujinko and I pray I never see him again

Not in this game,maybe the next one...i liked shujinko...dont hate

It's unlikely. Chaosrealm is supposed to be a chaotic, messed up place where the laws of nature don't apply properly and things like floating or having no skin or time speeding up or slowing down can happen at random.

But Seido is a place of rules where everything is the same, so if years there were as long as mere days in every other realm, and this was the normal behavior of that realm, that would make Hotaru, Dairou and Darrius the oldest characters in the game and I'm certain they don't intend for that to be the case given how unimportant they are.

What if the aging liquid affected Shujinko not only in the time he bathed in it but slightly for the rest of his life too? In some fictional series, sorrow ages people. I hear that Dom from Gears of War aged more than others between GoW2 and GoW3 because her wife died in GoW2. In a way, people do age their bodies in different paces depending on the lifestyle. It shouldn't be as radical as with Shujinko here so it should be something supernatural such as the supplemental effects of the liquid.

There's nothing in the game at all to even hint that might be the case.

The text in the scene where he ages in Seido literally says the words "For untold years, Shujinko remained imprisoned awaiting his trial."

Perhaps Shujinko was actually older than he looked like in his pre-imprisonment look but just shaved his beard and dyed his hair, haha. Realistically, it was a plot hole, a really wide one that is. Poor writing from Midway's department. Deception's Konquest focused in quantity sadly.

It wouldn't matter how old he was, being old doesn't make time go faster. The game used the words "untold years". The scene where he ages is right at the beginning of this video, read for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6yfi3z9Ta8

He was arrested during MKDA, sat in jail for "untold years", and when he got out, MKDA was still going on. It's just a giant continuity error and he should've been arrested during MK1 thru 4 instead, because that would better explain where he was during those games.

After all these long years, justice will at last prevail. Shujinko
It's interesting that Damashi waited all those long years before reacting. It also makes one wonder what was this generous compensation the avatar of Onaga gave to Dairou on the whole. If NeRdS are ever going to bring Shujinko back, there will be a lot to retcon. There is a good chance that he'll never become playable again.

No, but he should in the next game.


SHUJINKO RULES!!