Oh bugger, then it won't be Tanya.
Hoping for Reiko then. ^^

Nooo :(
Link to press release?

Link

@jaded again You respect my opinion yet insult me at the same time? I don't get you. Did it ever occur that 'hey, this character who had sub-zeros altered moves can have different moves and still wield ice at the same time as sub-zero?' Its called 'taking a look at different possibilities for characters that could act the same way as another!' They did that for Smoke when the designed him for Deception didn't they? He had Scorpions move set did he not? And look what happen! A fresh brand new set of moves that made him quite different than all the others. I can go on and on and on about characters who share other moves, Tanya being one of them, and go into a larger detailed length about how Frost, who was taught by Sub-Zero himself and stated in her bio that she has similar moves to him, but my cell phone limits me to not space out my paragraphs so I must say 'do your research first' before you call Frost a mere clone. Because she's really not. edit, see, I know Frost won't be in, said that at least twice now, not to mention, I don't have twitter, so updates on that I can only see on here and wouldn'thave known that.

Either way, it has now been confirmed that it won't be a female character, so it won't be either of them. But Tanya has just as much potential for a DLC character as Frost has, if not even more. But that's just my opinion.

I posted it first, and Jaded gets the DP...

Awesome.

Owned.

Nitara won't be having a chance in hell either.

Le sigh...

If I could, I would hand it to you. I don't care about DP at all, and you deserve it more.

Thank you.

You are even more awesome.

What kind of moves do you expect them to give frost to make her more original to set her apart from SZ/CSZ? Or what your vision for Frost is?

My opinion is not better than yours (I don't know why you would think that), but there was a bigger chance it would be Tanya due to her having an excuse for being in the timeline, where Frost had no reason to be there or to participate the tournament. Of course NRS could make up something completely new for her storyline, if that's what they wanted.

I'm not sure why you are being this defensive though. Is it because you know it was rather hypocritical what you said, but doesn't want to admit it? I don't mean to be offensive, but I just don't think it is fair of you to praise Frost and then tear down Tanya with that "No more Edenians" phrase, when Frost is in that same situation, as she is another cryomancer.

I admit, I dislike Frost for being a Sub-Zero clone in MKDA-MKA, but should NRS revamp her moveset and make her unique, then I wouldn't mind to see her return. But as a DLC? Then NRS should come up with a REALLY good reason storywise.

As much as I may hate Hsu Hao, Mokap, Sheeva and Kobra with a passion, MK4 was the nadir of the series when it came to character designs (and the nadir of the series period). At least both characters were fun to play as in subsequent titles but seriously, they are incredibly bland looking (Reiko got better in MKA) and who wants to play as Shao Khan's undead lackey with a girl's name?

IMO the characters we should get are

Fujin
Sareena
Havik
Li Mei

I really don't see how she is a Sub-Zero clone. It's not like she has the exact same moves as him. She has better ones.

All her special moves derived from Sub-Zero's. Her movelist was basically putting in the moves that was discarded from Subbie's. That's what I mean with clone.

She had a great outfit in her MKDA main, but I just want her to be more unique. She should get the same treatment as Kenshi did in this game - revamping the moveset to make it more original and creative.

It's alright, I believe you.

Noted. But... why should I feel sympathy towards a selfish bitch who essentially ruined the place she longs back to?


There is a difference between sympathetic villains, and reading something inside a character which is fundamentally at odds with her concept. It is like admiring Shang Tsung and Quan Chi for their mercy.

I think it is less than sympathy, at least a humane side to a character who is by all means a survivalist gloating asshole. Just pondering.

That's the pont, you shouldn't feel sorry for her. I don't. I'm a huge Tanya fan but I don't have an ounce of sympathy for her. She's a tragic character in the same sense that Macbeth is (don't worry, I'm not comparing the "plot" of MK to Shakespeare - just making a point). Macbeth caused all of his own problems with his own ambition and greed, not unlike Tanya. A tragic character doesn't mean you have to sympathise with them. Only that their circumstances are tragic. Which Tanya's are. She's an opportunistic loner who'll stab anyone in the back. She made her bed but the great thing about evil characters in Mortal Kombat is that she might not have to lie in it. It says in her bio that she's lived for thousands of years because she makes the right decisions and when it comes to evil characters those are the kind I prefer. The calculating.

Tanya fills the tragic role quite well as a contrast to other Edenians such as Kitana, Sindel and Jade. To show the route they could have gone if they didn't have the strength and morality to turn on Kahn. And those kinds of characters are useful, not just to stand up on their own two legs but for the benefit of other characters.

But there I go again reading far too deeply into MK's wafer-thin plot. Adieu.

However, you made an excellent point, better than I could have. ^^

You could say there are 3 versions, except 2 play the exact same...

@ Icebaby:

Just because a character becomes DLC does not mean they can't be in the next game.

Yes, Jade was a clone of Kitana in MK2, so was Smoke - they turned out to be completely unique characters though. I wouldn't call Kenshi a clone, as he only had 1 move shared with Ermac while the rest were unique to his character (though Ermac stole a move from Kenshi in MKD) - just like Frost should have been like, however, all of her moves were like past Subbie moves which makes me see her as a clone character. I can't see why Tanya is a clone though, that one you have to explain to me.

And you have explained why you aren't a hypocrite, fair enough, I take that back. At first it did indeed seem like you were all "People say they don't want Frost because she is like Sub-Zero, so I don't want Tanya because she is another Edenian" which would indeed make you seem like a hypocrite. However, you have explained that is not the case.

Also, there Bi Han, Kuai Liang and Frost as cryomancers... That's three characters. Kuai Liang turns into a fourth character as a cyborg, but as you say, he is still the same person - just a different moveset and looks.

I shall repeat what I said about Frost - if they totally revamped her moveset, like they did with Kenshi for this game, I would be alot more acceptive of her. However, as she is now, I don't find her worth enough of my attention. I really don't find her an interesting character, but NRS has every chance of changing that.

Neither of them will be DLC, so we won't have to worry about that.
So I stick to my other choice - Reiko. If it isn't him, I won't be disappointed, but then they had to do something AMAZING with the fourth DLC character for me to be interested.

As of now, I am playing as Rain and enjoying him alot. ^^

Well, as stated in a previous thread that I made, I asked, "would DLC characters make it to the next game?" and interestingly majority, if not all that responded, said yes. And as figured, they have some 92% (totally a guess-im-ate) chance of appearing the next game, yes, they will and i have no problem.

Though, if it were up to me (as long as I apply for an internship at WB by this year) I would say, "Hey, let's wait until next game where we can really design these characters properly and have them at full potential, rather than a sneak peek of what they might be for next game.

But, I'm not selfish like that, and don't feel the need to take away something precious to a game. Though, despite that now this character isn't male, sadly I feel like this entire debate is no longer... not meaningful or didn't accomplish anything, but I can't find the words, so I am just going to go eat mah dinner.