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Spider804
03/20/2011 06:31 PM (UTC)
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Come at me, bro. grin
Just kidding, I'm not looking to start trouble.
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03/20/2011 06:32 PM (UTC)
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stinky_thc_cloud
03/20/2011 10:18 PM (UTC)
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Ugh ... There not Ninjas. They just wore similar outfits back in the day YEARS AGO get over it.


**Not Ninjas
Ermac does not look like a ninja (mummy)
Reptile dosent (Barbarian warrior, wearing a mask cause to be discreat)
Noob dosent (thats a wraith if u ask me, even a kid would agree)
Cyborgs- They dont look like ninjas to me (not in this instalation)
Rain - play armageddon hes not a ninja he is a prince.

*** middle

Sub zero (yes he looks like one, but hes a warrior, he not stealthy he uses ice power and brute strength, that dosent sound like a ninja

** closest thing to ninjas
Scorp- once a real ninja, now a spector who uses hell powers.
Smoke - the only ninja in the game IMO he uses actaul stealth powers he is your NINJA (yes hes part of the lin kuei but hes the closest thing to a ninja in the game).

U want samuri, Kahn. (sure he may not satisy your saumuri urge) but there are pottential dlc characters who could fill that role. Kenshi, and me lei.

As far as a hand to hand combat game goes "ninjas" make more sense then samuris, soul calibur is a good game for that stuff


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XxOutworlds_GoddessxX
03/20/2011 10:20 PM (UTC)
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kitana is a princess/ninja. a badass character!!
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Icebaby
03/20/2011 10:22 PM (UTC)
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They're not ninjas if you want to look at it on the more technical side. Only Scorpion is.
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Jaded-Raven
03/20/2011 11:58 PM (UTC)
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I hate the whole "if the person wears a mask it is a ninja!" stereotype which people seem to have gotte into their minds. As said, Scorpion is the only ninja! A sucky one, but still...

The word ninja is thrown around too loosely these days.
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03/21/2011 12:00 AM (UTC)
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They're not even fucking ninjas anymore.
Hooky-Fooky Wrote:
I feel like OP is a troll.

This
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MortalMushroom
03/21/2011 12:47 AM (UTC)
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The short answer is they used to use pallete swap ninjas to make more characters with less memory.

The long answer is that they're not all ninjas:

Scorpion=A ninja

Sub-Zero= A masked Chinese assassin

Reptile= A reptile in a mask

Ermac= A warrior of souls, wearing face wraps

Rain= A prince who wears a mask

Smoke= Another Chinese assasin in a mask

Noob= An undead Chinese assassin.

Tremor= I don't know, I don't care.

They all look the same, but most of them aren't ninjas.
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Jaded-Raven
03/21/2011 01:02 AM (UTC)
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johnny1up Wrote:

Smoke= Another Chinese assasin in a mask


Actually...
Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
It's been leaked that Smoke comes from Prague and his real name is Tomas Vrbada.
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UChess
03/21/2011 01:03 AM (UTC)
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What`s the difference between an assassin in a ninja in this series again?
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Jaded-Raven
03/21/2011 01:07 AM (UTC)
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UChess Wrote:
What`s the difference between an assassin in a ninja in this series again?


It's not important what is what in the series, but that calling others than Scorpion for a ninjas is simply the wrong term to use. An assassin is an alot wider term than ninja. A ninja is something specific.
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wdm6789
03/21/2011 01:09 AM (UTC)
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I usually only consider the original MK1 and 2 ninjas as ninjas: Scorpion, Sub, Reptile, Smoke, Jade, Kitana, Mileena.

I know some of them are assassins and warriors or whatnot, but to me those are the only ones it seems appropriate to call ninjas.
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03/21/2011 01:18 AM (UTC)
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Alright Gawddamit,

WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT NINJAS, OKAY? SHIT!

Quit proving to us how they're something other than ninjas. We know by now that Scorpion is technically the only REAL ninja. We just generalize them as "ninjas" because they all started off as palette-swap ninjas. Because back then, that's all they were, and to many people, that's all they are now.

So you can be technical all you want, but stop acting like it's such an abominable sin to call them all "ninjas".
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Jaded-Raven
03/21/2011 01:23 AM (UTC)
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NS922 Wrote:
Alright Gawddamit,

WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT NINJAS, OKAY? SHIT!

Quit proving to us how they're something other than ninjas. We know by now that Scorpion is technically the only REAL ninja. We just generalize them as "ninjas" because they all started off as palette-swap ninjas. Because back then, that's all they were, and to many people, that's all they are now.

So you can be technical all you want, but stop acting like it's such an abominable sin to call them all "ninjas".


It's no sin, but one thing is to be ignorant of the facts and another to outright ignore the facts. Saying that other characters than Scorpion is a ninja is like saying Jade ethnicity is something other than Edenian. It's simply incorrect.
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03/21/2011 01:29 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
It's no sin, but one thing is to be ignorant of the facts and another to outright ignore the facts. Saying that other characters than Scorpion is a ninja is like saying Jade ethnicity is something other than Edenian. It's simply incorrect.


Simply incorrect, yes, but it doesn't give anyone the right to be so uppity whenever someone makes a mere generalization. You can't expect someone to refer to the "ninjas" as, "a ninja, a lizard with a mask, a warrior with a lot of souls who is also masked, a wraith with a mask, a prince with a mask, a Chinese assassin with a mask...etc...". No, they'll just refer to them collectively as "ninjas".
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03/21/2011 01:30 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
There is only one true ninja in MK and that's Scorpion. He's not being very subtle though, kinda a sucky ninja, relying more on his fire powers than his stealth and shadow tricks like an actual ninja.

The others just look the part, and as I've said many times before, I would love for them to stray away from the original palette swap look.


Even Scorpion's not really a ninja per se anymore.... he's an undead netherrealm assassiny skeleton man thingymabob. Don't think he really needs ninja-esque subtlety anymore ;)
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Jaded-Raven
03/21/2011 01:33 AM (UTC)
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NS922 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
It's no sin, but one thing is to be ignorant of the facts and another to outright ignore the facts. Saying that other characters than Scorpion is a ninja is like saying Jade ethnicity is something other than Edenian. It's simply incorrect.


Simply incorrect, yes, but it doesn't give anyone the right to be so uppity whenever someone makes a mere generalization. You can't expect someone to refer to the "ninjas" as, "a ninja, a lizard with a mask, a warrior with a lot of souls who is also masked, a wraith with a mask, a prince with a mask, a Chinese assassin with a mask...etc...". No, they'll just refer to them collectively as "ninjas".


Well, that's just pure laziness then. And I am not being "uppity" (is that even a word?) about it, it just frustrates me that people are delibrately stating something wrong, even when they know better. It rather displays those people's stupidity which I am sure that's not the intention.

Edit: I looked up the word "uppity"... It actually exists! XD
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03/21/2011 01:41 AM (UTC)
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Is it really "stupidity" to generalize a set of characters with a shared history from the MK1-3 era as "ninjas" for ease of conversation? Everyone knows what you're talking about when you say "mk ninjas" so over specification when talking about sub, scorp, ermac etc as a group just takes time.

Much like saying "jade looks asian" or "jade looks brazilian". Obviously she's not either of those things in the narrative but it's a real world comparison to make things clearer and simpler.
"ninjas" are just what the fan base called them because they all looked the same due to technical limitations in the old games but now they all have their own unique look so they all really arent "ninjas" anymore. At least thats what I think
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03/21/2011 05:02 AM (UTC)
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Frost is more of a ninja than Reptile or Sub-Zero. That's for sure.
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03/21/2011 05:06 AM (UTC)
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daryui Wrote:
Frost is more of a ninja than Sub-Zero.


I don't get it.
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daryui
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03/21/2011 05:17 AM (UTC)
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NS922 Wrote:
daryui Wrote:
Frost is more of a ninja than Sub-Zero.


I don't get it.


Just my opinion...
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ZeeDoctor
03/21/2011 05:21 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, seriously, I understand a lot of characters are not technically "ninjas" by the legal definition. But I'm sure 90% of the people who call them ninjas (me being one of them) is calling them that, based on their appearance...not their actions.

If you show a kid MK1 Reptile and ask him what he is they will tell you "a ninja". Popular culture has burned the stereotypical ninja outfit into our heads. And from what I know, most Ninjas didnt even wear those outfits. But if you show that outfit to someone, they will say "ninja".

Its the same deal with how people call Dr. Frankenstein's monster just "Frankenstein". If someone says "he looks like Frankenstein" nobody will think of the Doctor. Even though its incorrect, popular culture has made is acceptable for the monster to be recognized as "Frankenstein".

So if a character looks like a ninja...they are allowed to be referred to as ninjas. Sure its not historically correct, but it doesnt have to be.

And note I'm not trying to talk trash to any of you who have been defining ninjas by accurate terms. I'm just trying to make a point.

With all that being said. I don't agree with who wrote this topic because not only are these characters not actual ninjas...but only Sub Zero and Scorpion even look like the stereotypical ninja still. Therefore, the game is NOT filled with ninjas.
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-Brad-
03/21/2011 07:15 AM (UTC)
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Dude! I hope one glorious day everyone will be ninjas!
Just picture ninja Goro and ninja Jax! Dude... DUDE! THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!
Oh, I just thought of an amazing story!
Everyone is a ninja except one guy and they all beat the shit out of him for not being a ninja!
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