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That's all fine and good, and I'd welcome a sister or brother getting involved in the events.
But...
Boon said *sons and daughters*, not *brothers and sisters or moms and dads*.
That's the sticking point. Again, would love to see a brother or sister (and we probably will see one), but we're going to see a lot more sons and daughters, and people have to have sex for that to happen...and dead people don't have sex (or, at the very least, can't procreate). And with most of the heroes dead, that leaves us with a Baraka child, Mileena child, Reptile child/cuz, Goro child, Kintaro child, Quan Chi child (*shudders*), Sheeva child, and a Sektor child.
And I don't see them using all the baddies as progenitors. Maybe one or two, but not all.
So, someone's going to have to be rez'd at some point.
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Initially I though it will be new -ality, but now it looks like it can be something from the past. Personally my money on Brutality. It was planned to appear in MK9 and seems was some sort of QTE-type finisher. I am not sure how it can be made different from Fatalities, but I am sure NRS can figure out something.
I think they can just bring some relatives of killed characers. Like, dunno, sister of Jax or Stryker's brother...something like that.
Personally I don't see point in ressurecting characters and then essentially give their place in the story to their children or relatives. Besides, their deaths could be easily written as reasons why those aforementioned relatives decided to particpate in new MK events in the first place. Like, maybe, said Jax's sister wants to avenge death of her brother or something like that.
I am not big supporter of turning Mortal Kombat into Families Feud Kombat, but in the end it all depends on execution. And I am pretty sure, that there will a child of Baraka and Mileena.
Initially I though it will be new -ality, but now it looks like it can be something from the past. Personally my money on Brutality. It was planned to appear in MK9 and seems was some sort of QTE-type finisher. I am not sure how it can be made different from Fatalities, but I am sure NRS can figure out something.
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I agree. However, my point was that since Boon keeps mentioning "sons and daughters and cousins", and pretty much all the Earthrealm heroes were killed during MK9, I have to believe those same heroes will have to be resurrected at some point in the story (so they can have those sons and daughters).
I agree. However, my point was that since Boon keeps mentioning "sons and daughters and cousins", and pretty much all the Earthrealm heroes were killed during MK9, I have to believe those same heroes will have to be resurrected at some point in the story (so they can have those sons and daughters).
I think they can just bring some relatives of killed characers. Like, dunno, sister of Jax or Stryker's brother...something like that.
Personally I don't see point in ressurecting characters and then essentially give their place in the story to their children or relatives. Besides, their deaths could be easily written as reasons why those aforementioned relatives decided to particpate in new MK events in the first place. Like, maybe, said Jax's sister wants to avenge death of her brother or something like that.
I am not big supporter of turning Mortal Kombat into Families Feud Kombat, but in the end it all depends on execution. And I am pretty sure, that there will a child of Baraka and Mileena.
That's all fine and good, and I'd welcome a sister or brother getting involved in the events.
But...
Boon said *sons and daughters*, not *brothers and sisters or moms and dads*.
That's the sticking point. Again, would love to see a brother or sister (and we probably will see one), but we're going to see a lot more sons and daughters, and people have to have sex for that to happen...and dead people don't have sex (or, at the very least, can't procreate). And with most of the heroes dead, that leaves us with a Baraka child, Mileena child, Reptile child/cuz, Goro child, Kintaro child, Quan Chi child (*shudders*), Sheeva child, and a Sektor child.
And I don't see them using all the baddies as progenitors. Maybe one or two, but not all.
So, someone's going to have to be rez'd at some point.
Man everyone acts like we have seen every single characters every move and know every single little thing about them. What's to say Jax doesn't have a kid? Whats to say any of them don't? What's to say Cassie wasn't conceived off screen in MK9?
Why the HELL would people have to be "brought back to life" for this to work? They don't! All Boon and NRS has to say is "So and so had a son/daughter already before/during the events of MK9." That is literally all they would have to do.
The cousins and siblings thing is even easier explained! "So and so has siblings." Boom, argument over.
Sorry if that looks like I'm ranting at anyone, it's just I don't even fathom how people are saying shit like "How does he/she have a kid," "when did this happen," "they never showed that!" crap it's just like... really? Why is that SO unexplainable to people? Like I said, there really is no big plot damaging shit going on to explain why a dead character may already have a kid or not.
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You're absolutely right, H3ndrix, in that NRS could completely by fiat say "so and so had a kid all along".
However, the only heroes who died where this would make sense is in regards to Jax and Stryker (bring basically normal fellas who could have had a son or daughter back home).
It's highly unlikely that Sub-Zero or Smoke had a child, as they were both assassin/warriors conducting operations for the Lin Kuei. Dangerous profession, and doesn't leave much time for a family life.
Jade and Kitana, despite being 10,000 years old, are really only in their mid-twenties by human standards and thus most likely did not have kids of their own. Also, again, assassin/warriors for Shao Kahn, which probably doesn't leave a lot of time free for romance. No mention of kids for them.
Both Liu and Kung Lao were Shaolin monks in their early to mid-twenties (I think Razor actually pointed this out) and were likely celibate. Again, not much time/desire to have kids.
So, yeah, by fiat only Jax and Stryker make sense.
Now, given time, Kitana and Liu may have bumped uglies, and who knows where Kuai would have ended up had he lived and really gotten detached from the Lin Kuei.
So, given this, I think it's safe to assume that some or all of the heroes are getting their eggs pulled out of the fryer pretty early on in the story, and will eventually have a kid or two.
Throw in a few kids, some bad guy kids, and a sister or brother, and there's your descendents/relatives on the roster.
However, the only heroes who died where this would make sense is in regards to Jax and Stryker (bring basically normal fellas who could have had a son or daughter back home).
It's highly unlikely that Sub-Zero or Smoke had a child, as they were both assassin/warriors conducting operations for the Lin Kuei. Dangerous profession, and doesn't leave much time for a family life.
Jade and Kitana, despite being 10,000 years old, are really only in their mid-twenties by human standards and thus most likely did not have kids of their own. Also, again, assassin/warriors for Shao Kahn, which probably doesn't leave a lot of time free for romance. No mention of kids for them.
Both Liu and Kung Lao were Shaolin monks in their early to mid-twenties (I think Razor actually pointed this out) and were likely celibate. Again, not much time/desire to have kids.
So, yeah, by fiat only Jax and Stryker make sense.
Now, given time, Kitana and Liu may have bumped uglies, and who knows where Kuai would have ended up had he lived and really gotten detached from the Lin Kuei.
So, given this, I think it's safe to assume that some or all of the heroes are getting their eggs pulled out of the fryer pretty early on in the story, and will eventually have a kid or two.
Throw in a few kids, some bad guy kids, and a sister or brother, and there's your descendents/relatives on the roster.
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ReptzMK Wrote:
You're absolutely right, H3ndrix, in that NRS could completely by fiat say "so and so had a kid all along".
However, the only heroes who died where this would make sense is in regards to Jax and Stryker (bring basically normal fellas who could have had a son or daughter back home).
It's highly unlikely that Sub-Zero or Smoke had a child, as they were both assassin/warriors conducting operations for the Lin Kuei. Dangerous profession, and doesn't leave much time for a family life.
Jade and Kitana, despite being 10,000 years old, are really only in their mid-twenties by human standards and thus most likely did not have kids of their own. Also, again, assassin/warriors for Shao Kahn, which probably doesn't leave a lot of time free for romance. No mention of kids for them.
Both Liu and Kung Lao were Shaolin monks in their early to mid-twenties (I think Razor actually pointed this out) and were likely celibate. Again, not much time/desire to have kids.
So, yeah, by fiat only Jax and Stryker make sense.
Now, given time, Kitana and Liu may have bumped uglies, and who knows where Kuai would have ended up had he lived and really gotten detached from the Lin Kuei.
So, given this, I think it's safe to assume that some or all of the heroes are getting their eggs pulled out of the fryer pretty early on in the story, and will eventually have a kid or two.
Throw in a few kids, some bad guy kids, and a sister or brother, and there's your descendents/relatives on the roster.
You're absolutely right, H3ndrix, in that NRS could completely by fiat say "so and so had a kid all along".
However, the only heroes who died where this would make sense is in regards to Jax and Stryker (bring basically normal fellas who could have had a son or daughter back home).
It's highly unlikely that Sub-Zero or Smoke had a child, as they were both assassin/warriors conducting operations for the Lin Kuei. Dangerous profession, and doesn't leave much time for a family life.
Jade and Kitana, despite being 10,000 years old, are really only in their mid-twenties by human standards and thus most likely did not have kids of their own. Also, again, assassin/warriors for Shao Kahn, which probably doesn't leave a lot of time free for romance. No mention of kids for them.
Both Liu and Kung Lao were Shaolin monks in their early to mid-twenties (I think Razor actually pointed this out) and were likely celibate. Again, not much time/desire to have kids.
So, yeah, by fiat only Jax and Stryker make sense.
Now, given time, Kitana and Liu may have bumped uglies, and who knows where Kuai would have ended up had he lived and really gotten detached from the Lin Kuei.
So, given this, I think it's safe to assume that some or all of the heroes are getting their eggs pulled out of the fryer pretty early on in the story, and will eventually have a kid or two.
Throw in a few kids, some bad guy kids, and a sister or brother, and there's your descendents/relatives on the roster.
Oh yeah for sure, but it's still VERY easy to get around all of that. Sub-Zero was pretty much already explained by Boon, "There are pools of Sub-Zero's." So there is that, Boon said "Kids, cousins, brothers and sisters" right? Well... that doesn't mean EVERY single character, like Sub-Zero or Smoke, have to have a kid, same goes for Liu Kang.
Sonya and Johnny have the kid part covered, this Sub-Zero doesn't even have to be related to the previous two, Boon literally said there are pools of Sub-zero's in the LK, so that covers Sub-Zero.
Liu Kang could have a brother/cousin/sister or anything of the sort, he already had a brother once in the movies, I'm sure if NRS wanted too, he could have one now, so that covers the brother/sister thing.
As you said, Jax or Stryker easily could of already had a kid. So there is that.
Kitana and any of those dangerous lifestyle people you mentioned could just be wrote in as "So and so kept their child a secret and hidden away from everyone so that they wouldn't endure the same life as their parents had" or whatever, it's a game, it's very easy to slide these things in.
And yes, Razor did already mention to me that our Shaolin Monks wouldn't have had kids for valid reasons, and he made perfect sense on that... but then you still have to put into consideration that this is just a game and that even though Boon and Co. base a lot of it off of our real life situations, doesn't mean they have to follow it 100%.
Anything's possible, but just because Boon said there will be characters with children in the game doesn't mean EVERY character will, maybe it's only SB and JC? Maybe only them and one more. And remember he also said other types of siblings as well, so don't go throwing Smoke and Sub-Zero into the daddy factor. Hell this is even assuming Smoke or a character like him will be in this time around. :)
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Unless I missed something, Boon said nothing about siblings...only sons, daughters, and cousins. Doesn't mean there won't be a bro or sis, but just based on Boon...we're talking about offspring.
And I didn't say EVERY character would have a kid. However, and again, Boon stated that there would be a lot of descendent characters in MKX.
So, based on that, I think it's safe to say that we're going to see probably more than just Johnny's/Sonya's kid. And even throwing a hypothetical Jax or Stryker child from the past probably isn't going to cut it. I fully expect to see one or more heroes resurrected and have kids later on down the line.
Who else besides the MK9 baddies or the MK4-D heroes could have descendents? The logical conclusion is the dead heroes...and dead people don't fuck.
And I didn't say EVERY character would have a kid. However, and again, Boon stated that there would be a lot of descendent characters in MKX.
So, based on that, I think it's safe to say that we're going to see probably more than just Johnny's/Sonya's kid. And even throwing a hypothetical Jax or Stryker child from the past probably isn't going to cut it. I fully expect to see one or more heroes resurrected and have kids later on down the line.
Who else besides the MK9 baddies or the MK4-D heroes could have descendents? The logical conclusion is the dead heroes...and dead people don't fuck.
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Unless I missed something, Boon said nothing about siblings...only sons, daughters, and cousins. Doesn't mean there won't be a bro or sis, but just based on Boon...we're talking about offspring.
And I didn't say EVERY character would have a kid. However, and again, Boon stated that there would be a lot of descendent characters in MKX.
So, based on that, I think it's safe to say that we're going to see probably more than just Johnny's/Sonya's kid. And even throwing a hypothetical Jax or Stryker child from the past probably isn't going to cut it. I fully expect to see one or more heroes resurrected and have kids later on down the line.
Who else besides the MK9 baddies or the MK4-D heroes could have descendents? The logical conclusion is the dead heroes...and dead people don't fuck.
Unless I missed something, Boon said nothing about siblings...only sons, daughters, and cousins. Doesn't mean there won't be a bro or sis, but just based on Boon...we're talking about offspring.
And I didn't say EVERY character would have a kid. However, and again, Boon stated that there would be a lot of descendent characters in MKX.
So, based on that, I think it's safe to say that we're going to see probably more than just Johnny's/Sonya's kid. And even throwing a hypothetical Jax or Stryker child from the past probably isn't going to cut it. I fully expect to see one or more heroes resurrected and have kids later on down the line.
Who else besides the MK9 baddies or the MK4-D heroes could have descendents? The logical conclusion is the dead heroes...and dead people don't fuck.
If that is honestly what they do, I won't care a bit for this game other then for game play. I love the story, the lore... if they just rehash a shit load of characters by having their "descendent's" in the game... that's just a little silly to me, I don't mind maybe one or two... but that's all that I would personally prefer.
Edit: But personally I really don't see them making to many descendents for the old heros, maybe a couple... but I guess we will see what they decide to do, anything is possible, even the stupid things.
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If that is honestly what they do, I won't care a bit for this game other then for game play. I love the story, the lore... if they just rehash a shit load of characters by having their "descendent's" in the game... that's just a little silly to me, I don't mind maybe one or two... but that's all that I would personally prefer.
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Unless I missed something, Boon said nothing about siblings...only sons, daughters, and cousins. Doesn't mean there won't be a bro or sis, but just based on Boon...we're talking about offspring.
And I didn't say EVERY character would have a kid. However, and again, Boon stated that there would be a lot of descendent characters in MKX.
So, based on that, I think it's safe to say that we're going to see probably more than just Johnny's/Sonya's kid. And even throwing a hypothetical Jax or Stryker child from the past probably isn't going to cut it. I fully expect to see one or more heroes resurrected and have kids later on down the line.
Who else besides the MK9 baddies or the MK4-D heroes could have descendents? The logical conclusion is the dead heroes...and dead people don't fuck.
Unless I missed something, Boon said nothing about siblings...only sons, daughters, and cousins. Doesn't mean there won't be a bro or sis, but just based on Boon...we're talking about offspring.
And I didn't say EVERY character would have a kid. However, and again, Boon stated that there would be a lot of descendent characters in MKX.
So, based on that, I think it's safe to say that we're going to see probably more than just Johnny's/Sonya's kid. And even throwing a hypothetical Jax or Stryker child from the past probably isn't going to cut it. I fully expect to see one or more heroes resurrected and have kids later on down the line.
Who else besides the MK9 baddies or the MK4-D heroes could have descendents? The logical conclusion is the dead heroes...and dead people don't fuck.
If that is honestly what they do, I won't care a bit for this game other then for game play. I love the story, the lore... if they just rehash a shit load of characters by having their "descendent's" in the game... that's just a little silly to me, I don't mind maybe one or two... but that's all that I would personally prefer.
Well, honestly it isn't that bad.
For example, let's assume the roster really is just 24 fighters, and 12 are new and 12 are classics. Even if you reserve 6 of those new slots to descendents/children, that's not a large chunk of the roster. I think 6 would fulfill Boon's statement that there will be a lot of descendent characters, and the rest of returning classics and 6 unaffiliated new characters.
It can work.
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Well, honestly it isn't that bad.
For example, let's assume the roster really is just 24 fighters, and 12 are new and 12 are classics. Even if you reserve 6 of those new slots to descendents/children, that's not a large chunk of the roster. I think 6 would fulfill Boon's statement that there will be a lot of descendent characters, and the rest of returning classics and 6 unaffiliated new characters.
It can work.
H3ndrix Wrote:
If that is honestly what they do, I won't care a bit for this game other then for game play. I love the story, the lore... if they just rehash a shit load of characters by having their "descendent's" in the game... that's just a little silly to me, I don't mind maybe one or two... but that's all that I would personally prefer.
ReptzMK Wrote:
Unless I missed something, Boon said nothing about siblings...only sons, daughters, and cousins. Doesn't mean there won't be a bro or sis, but just based on Boon...we're talking about offspring.
And I didn't say EVERY character would have a kid. However, and again, Boon stated that there would be a lot of descendent characters in MKX.
So, based on that, I think it's safe to say that we're going to see probably more than just Johnny's/Sonya's kid. And even throwing a hypothetical Jax or Stryker child from the past probably isn't going to cut it. I fully expect to see one or more heroes resurrected and have kids later on down the line.
Who else besides the MK9 baddies or the MK4-D heroes could have descendents? The logical conclusion is the dead heroes...and dead people don't fuck.
Unless I missed something, Boon said nothing about siblings...only sons, daughters, and cousins. Doesn't mean there won't be a bro or sis, but just based on Boon...we're talking about offspring.
And I didn't say EVERY character would have a kid. However, and again, Boon stated that there would be a lot of descendent characters in MKX.
So, based on that, I think it's safe to say that we're going to see probably more than just Johnny's/Sonya's kid. And even throwing a hypothetical Jax or Stryker child from the past probably isn't going to cut it. I fully expect to see one or more heroes resurrected and have kids later on down the line.
Who else besides the MK9 baddies or the MK4-D heroes could have descendents? The logical conclusion is the dead heroes...and dead people don't fuck.
If that is honestly what they do, I won't care a bit for this game other then for game play. I love the story, the lore... if they just rehash a shit load of characters by having their "descendent's" in the game... that's just a little silly to me, I don't mind maybe one or two... but that's all that I would personally prefer.
Well, honestly it isn't that bad.
For example, let's assume the roster really is just 24 fighters, and 12 are new and 12 are classics. Even if you reserve 6 of those new slots to descendents/children, that's not a large chunk of the roster. I think 6 would fulfill Boon's statement that there will be a lot of descendent characters, and the rest of returning classics and 6 unaffiliated new characters.
It can work.
True, but that's not where I was coming from, I'm just not a big fan of descendent characters, I don't mind a few... but it just kind of feels like an easy way out to me, I'm not too concerned about the roster and who makes it in, I like having new characters, but I just don't want most of those new characters to be decendents ya know? Just seems lazy to me.
Kotal Kahn, Ferra/Torr and D'Vorah seem cool, can't wait to try them out... Cassie doesn't appeal much to me cause she just looks too much like Sonya to me, so I don't get that "new character vibe" from her and that's what I'm afraid of if there are even more. It works for masked characters, idc about that. But I don't want to be playing as Jax son who just happens to be way too similar to Jax... lol.
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I completely agree. If they're just carbon copies and what-not (OMGZ ITZ LIU KANG 2.0, for example), then that'd suck. But I happen to think Cassie is differeniated enough from Sonya and Johnny that I don't see her as simply "Johnny Blade". And I have faith in NRS to make the other descendent characters different enough from their parents too, with maybe a few nods to their parent's style or dress.
To each their own tho.
I completely agree. If they're just carbon copies and what-not (OMGZ ITZ LIU KANG 2.0, for example), then that'd suck. But I happen to think Cassie is differeniated enough from Sonya and Johnny that I don't see her as simply "Johnny Blade". And I have faith in NRS to make the other descendent characters different enough from their parents too, with maybe a few nods to their parent's style or dress.
To each their own tho.
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@H3ndrix
I completely agree. If they're just carbon copies and what-not (OMGZ ITZ LIU KANG 2.0, for example), then that'd suck. But I happen to think Cassie is differeniated enough from Sonya and Johnny that I don't see her as simply "Johnny Blade". And I have faith in NRS to make the other descendent characters different enough from their parents too, with maybe a few nods to their parent's style or dress.
To each their own tho.
@H3ndrix
I completely agree. If they're just carbon copies and what-not (OMGZ ITZ LIU KANG 2.0, for example), then that'd suck. But I happen to think Cassie is differeniated enough from Sonya and Johnny that I don't see her as simply "Johnny Blade". And I have faith in NRS to make the other descendent characters different enough from their parents too, with maybe a few nods to their parent's style or dress.
To each their own tho.
Yeah exactly! Haha. And man, I wish I felt the same, I honestly do. Maybe she'll rub off on me once I get the game and play as her, her game play looks cool, it's just every time I see her my first thought is "It's Sonya." Lol which could just be completely on me.
I'm definitely hoping for some more creative, new characters though, so far I'm happy with most of what we've seen, I'm just waiting for some more news!
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