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KenshiMaster16
03/04/2015 08:55 PM (UTC)
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JaymzHetfield Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
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Sitting here wondering how with all of this supposed leaked roster info nobody seems to know shit about the last boss and sub-boss(es).


The leaks seem very convenient to me. Maybe I'm paranoid.


Who the hell knows. Someone over at TYM this morning suggested they'd heard there may be a few extra characters outside of the 24 we now know and JamesMK went after his ass, saying the guy was trying to call him a fraud or somethin'. lol It was quite humorous to read.

We have people saying one thing, people saying there may be a little more we don't know yet, we have leaks popping up now. I don't know what to think anymore. If there was ever a time NRS needed to show off a 3D era character (if they were in) that's not Quan, Kenshi or Shinnok, the time is now.


I completely agree. They need to do some sort of damage control if these are real leaks. But if it is just guerrilla marketing (which I personally am leaning towards, because what are the odds all of the parents of the characters who were JUST revealed would leak in one day, one on IGN of all places) maybe they want to fuck with people for a while before they suckerpunch them with someone they don't expect. Or maybe that really is the roster and that's it. I'm with you though, literally anything could be happening. These are serious mindfucks.

But without a doubt it feels like an extremely "controlled" leak.


You're right, it does. Hell, maybe they leaked it on purpose that way they wouldn't have to worry about roster leaks from outside sources if 24 is indeed it. I'm hoping there is more than meets the eye and there will be 1 or 2 characters we don't know about, but I'm not gonna hold my breath over it.
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03/04/2015 08:59 PM (UTC)
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I don't care for that particular YouTuber,


I don't either. And I would like for YouTube to stop recommending his shitty videos to me.
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03/04/2015 09:07 PM (UTC)
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I don't care for that particular YouTuber, but I'm not sure a copyright claim is actually fair in this specific case. But that doesn't matter. WB has enough money to bypass fairness. Just the way it is. I've gotten shit from WB on multiple occasions. They just like to dictate how their products are shown, or even talked about. It's pretty dumb, but like I said, they have enough money to get their way.


I know what you mean there. Back in 2013, my twitch channel was taken down for streaming the Injustice demo. For whatever reason, WB thought I got my hands on the actual game or something and was streaming that. Had to go back and forth with twitch for a few days to get my channel back up. But however, since it was a leak and something not officially announced or shown, I can understand the copyright claim. Showing off something that isn't yours that wasn't originally shown by the party that owns it first is a no go. It's the same reason why twitch doesn't allow people to stream a full game that hasn't been released publicly yet.
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03/04/2015 09:08 PM (UTC)
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24 wont be the Roster number.. I'm guessing it will be 25 initially. And that's just by looking at the roster on the last couple Live Streams. There are 25 spots. 26 if they remove that oddly placed random select "?" mark.
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OttoVonRuthless
03/04/2015 09:11 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
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sharefrock Wrote:
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Is it wrong to take pleasure in Uncagedgamez (prime video reuploader and reaction video whore) getting strikes on his account?

Regardless, I thought it was pretty clear all that stuff was legit.
sharefrock Wrote: Anyways, Nobody deserves a copyright strike not even that "reuploader and reaction whore" as a guy above me said lol.

Yes, he does.
It's not like he can claim "fair use" (popular for reviews) as it was a bunch of leaked screenshots that I'm sure he added some sensationalized title to for more views (and drew attention to himself from WB.)


LMAO! I don't know that much about "fair use" or other stuff like that but I'm glad you and Solid are happy.

Seems like you guys didn't like UnCaged that much.


Can I ask how you old you are? Go do some research on copyright law. You can not fucking leak shit and just BECAUSE you talk over the picture you should be protected. Thats the dumbest thing I have heard.


I'm 13 and I don't know what the fuck he did. So don't start with this bullshit.

Did he actually show a picture or did he just talk about the leak?


You're 13?! I can't tell if you're joking or not.
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03/04/2015 09:13 PM (UTC)
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Uhh...
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sharefrock
03/04/2015 09:14 PM (UTC)
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OttoVonRuthless Wrote:
sharefrock Wrote:
SolidSnakez Wrote:
sharefrock Wrote:
Rockchalk5477 Wrote:
Is it wrong to take pleasure in Uncagedgamez (prime video reuploader and reaction video whore) getting strikes on his account?

Regardless, I thought it was pretty clear all that stuff was legit.
sharefrock Wrote: Anyways, Nobody deserves a copyright strike not even that "reuploader and reaction whore" as a guy above me said lol.

Yes, he does.
It's not like he can claim "fair use" (popular for reviews) as it was a bunch of leaked screenshots that I'm sure he added some sensationalized title to for more views (and drew attention to himself from WB.)


LMAO! I don't know that much about "fair use" or other stuff like that but I'm glad you and Solid are happy.

Seems like you guys didn't like UnCaged that much.


Can I ask how you old you are? Go do some research on copyright law. You can not fucking leak shit and just BECAUSE you talk over the picture you should be protected. Thats the dumbest thing I have heard.


I'm 13 and I don't know what the fuck he did. So don't start with this bullshit.

Did he actually show a picture or did he just talk about the leak?


You're 13?! I can't tell if you're joking or not.


Why would I joke about that? :/
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Blade4693
03/04/2015 09:14 PM (UTC)
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I'm cool with the initial roster being 24, its same as Injustice but with 3 variations for each character. We already know we are getting at least 4 DLC characters so that's a 28 number roster at the very least, not bad IMO.
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03/04/2015 09:16 PM (UTC)
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MortalMushroom
03/04/2015 09:18 PM (UTC)
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He still showed real, leaked concept art of a previously unannounced character and that is a BIG no-no nowadays. He honestly should've known better.


An image that was easily found on multiple public sources all over the internet and had been circulating all day. Not only that, but without showing the screenshot it's purely speculative whether or not it's legit. Obviously the fact that you could find the actual screen all over the place as well proved it was legit, but the video alone did not.

I'm not saying it was wrong for the video to be taken down because WB obviously didn't want people to know about that character yet. But I do think a copyright strike is unfair, as he wasn't the one who leaked the image, he just reported on it.
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03/04/2015 09:22 PM (UTC)
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^Fucking spot on.


Also, consider that MK9 had a huge death toll. Let's wait and see how bad this one gets. Hell, it's not impossible that some of the newcomers might get killed off.


If any of the new comers get killed off that would be a FUCKING waste. What's the point in creating a new character, getting fans to accept them, and then killing them off all in the same game? How the fuck is that any different from the same patterns they've been repeating with new characters for years now?

And don't give me that whole "But it'll make things grounded and add to story development" bullshit. It's a waste.
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03/04/2015 09:23 PM (UTC)
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I tried watching uncagedgames for news and rumors before I came here. I'd rather read about it lol.. It's nothing personal but I can't stand that dudes speech for some reason. It's just naturally grating on my ears.
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03/04/2015 09:24 PM (UTC)
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Wait a Second, didn't Johnny cage have blonde hair during the story trailer?
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lastfighter89
03/04/2015 09:30 PM (UTC)
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^^Mavado, Hsu Hao and Daegon were all killed in their debut game.
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03/04/2015 09:32 PM (UTC)
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It's a waste.

Hey, I agree.

On one hand, knowing that all the nooblets are effectively invincible does kneecap the tension a bit, but on the other hand, there are much bigger things than just their lives at stake, and it's not like we'll really get to see any of them in action until the very last arc. It helps that all of them seem cool so far, and I don't want any one of them to die.
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03/04/2015 09:38 PM (UTC)
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Wonder how Takeda gets involved with the Cassie's group. In the comics he has been attached to Scorpion's hip since Kenshi left, I thought they were going to be a duo of sorts in MKX, you know, like Peanut Butter and Jelly, and here we have Takeda tagging along with Cassie's group with no sign of the Hanzonator.

I'm guessing Takeda gets mad one day and does the cliché " You're not my father!!! I don't have to listen to you!!! " and runs off , eventually crossing paths with the Cassie clan.
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03/04/2015 09:40 PM (UTC)
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I think the casting sheet said that Kenshi comes back to pick him up eventually so he could join him in the SF.
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03/04/2015 09:43 PM (UTC)
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I think the casting sheet said that Kenshi comes back to pick him up eventually so he could join him in the SF.


lol Father of the Year material. "You're fully trained? Fuck yeah, now lets put you to work"
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03/04/2015 09:44 PM (UTC)
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Bueno. Some great discussion points here.

T-rex Wrote:

Good stuff.


Don't get me wrong. I'm thankful, no, I'm grateful that the Midway days are dead and gone. I made a broad assumption in the heat of the moment, and probably shouldn't have. I wasn't aware of how WB handles other games' marketing (doesn't surprise me about Arkham tbh), but I ultimately stand by what I said.

I just can't shake this feeling of "sellout" on NRS' behalf. The comics (mainly the use of 3-4 alternate covers), the middle finger that is the Komplete Edition, mobile/console exclusives, $30-$400 toys/statues, FOUR KEs, guaranteed DLC's (at least for us die-hards), and I'm thinking the only reason they're not doing the strategy guide this go around is because with all the errors from MK9's, I'm sure WB ended up losing money having to send out replacements rather than coming out ahead.

Of course none of that is really "new", it's just a little...idk, irritating?


Remonster Wrote:
Ever think that maybe they didn't include those characters because, outside of a handful of hardcore fans on message boards, no one actually cares for those characters? The 3d games had mediocre reception at best, and Nrs has been open about shifting focus onto the classic and beloved characters. The characters that will sell the game!


Of course. Not single-minded over here. I gave fair warning in various different threads that I would, in fact, rant about this once it was confirmed that the post-Trilogy era characters were getting the shitty end of the stick. And I would argue the "mediocre" aspect, but for the sake of staying on point, I won't. MK4 characters in particular were not as obscure as they are now. Reiko alone had shitstorms of people talking because of the whole "omgz it's KAHN", and just take a look at where Quan Chi is at now. 3D Era- or even Kenshi. Why is that? EXPOSURE.

If memory serves, the only characters I even recall being completely hated at the time were Jarek and Kai. At least in my neck of the woods.

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Of course they're out to make money, video games are a cutrthroat business, if you don't thrive and put out impressive numbers every time, you can guarantee yourself a drop in budget or culling of employees.


This is the response I was expecting. "Welcome to the world" or "That's the way it is". Well yeah, but it's the aspect of us consumers "being taken advantage of" that drives me bonkers. The majority blindly gobbles up whatever "new" product a company or retailer shells out. This is precisely how we ended up with sequels/prequels/remakes/reboots (blasphemies like six fucking Saw movies, TMNT, Oz The Great and Whatever, to continue, this list could easily take up this whole page) that just should never have been, and the split finales of monstrous films like Harry Potter, Twilight, and Hunger Games. The film and gaming industry are different, but this concept of "squeezing" still applies.

Naturally, we want to support companies that give us great products, but they go above and beyond those lengths to drain you dry. It's not exclusive to MK, but it only happens because we LET IT.

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You can call NRS and WB out on their bs. You SHOULD call them out on it. But to assume they're screwing over fans by holding over some mildly unpopular characters? That is absurd. Just look at the insane amount of content in the game. Story mode, factions, revamped towers, character variations, brutalities, etc. now compare that to how EA or Activision treat their customers.


Here's some insight -

I've said it many times on this forum, but Mortal Kombat is the only game I'll follow to the ends of the Earth. It's the only reason I still play video games, it's the only reason I even go into Gamestop, and it's the only reason I'm being so forthcoming and passionate about what I'm saying in this post.

I'm taking time out of my life, money out of my wallet, and spending it on this product. So uhhhh....you goddamn right I'm going to scrutinize every detail about this game. Up until this "rant", I have been nothing but supportive of this game AND NRS.

If they had included one, JUST ONE, one the post-Trilogy characters (Please don't, Quan Chi and Kenshi advocates - them bitches been retconned), besides the obvious Shinnok appearance, to show that they're not getting the boot, I would not have even made a single post in this thread.

You want the truth?

If NRS approached me with a deal, saying that they would cut Reptile from the initial roster and leave him for DLC (which would have sold 50x more) with no story relevance, but would include Fujin and Bo' Rai Cho in the initial roster...I'd fucking take the deal. Because at least I can say that Reptile has had multiple chances. Not to mention, without muh boii, Deception (which has one of the best storylines in the franchise, imo) would not have even been possible. Oh my god was that a blaze of glory.

Also, MK9 cliffhanger. Remember that? I sure as hell do. They intentionally set you up for the expectation of those characters. How can you deny that? It's like a blatant slap in the face, man. Here, have a huge MK4 teaser, MK4/3D era cameos out the ying-yang, appearances in comics, but uhhh...ya gotta pay for them all if you really want to fully enjoy them. Seriously?

To finalize my post, even though the overall quality of this site has been on decline, I'm so buttfucking thankful that there are still some users on here who are intellectually stimulating. As @coltess so aptly put in the General Discussion Forum, I really do appreciate you guys. As well as this franchise, I'm just blown away by this decision. Blown....away.
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03/04/2015 09:45 PM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
T-rex Wrote:
I think the casting sheet said that Kenshi comes back to pick him up eventually so he could join him in the SF.


lol Father of the Year material. "You're fully trained? Fuck yeah, now lets put you to work"


Lmao true.

Hopefully he will get some Kenshi training as well, being trained by Scorpion for years then getting trained by Kenshi too would surely make him quite the warrior.
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03/04/2015 09:46 PM (UTC)
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All there is needed now is Liu Kang!
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03/04/2015 09:49 PM (UTC)
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^^Mavado, Hsu Hao and Daegon were all killed in their debut game.


Exactly my fucking point. How in the hell does that break patterns? MK has a problem with introducing new characters for a game and then never following up on them again. If any of the newbies were to be killed off in MKX that would be nothing but the cycle continuing. Look I'm not stupid, I know not every newbie will make the cut for MKX. But to purposely plan to kill off a few in MKX is just completely idiotic and once again- a waste.
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03/04/2015 10:01 PM (UTC)
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Other than that , there are some things whih are not lear and makes me wonder

1)If the OFFICIAL roster is like what people assume (YET thankfully the NRS is not as shallow to create a roster which includes only heroes) it's going be absolutely weird because how can I select a villain for The brotherhood of shadows for ONLINE FATION WAR since there is only ONE OFFICIALLYconfirmed character tha suits the theme well, Quan chi ???

2)Seriousy I don' get it;
-Princess Kitana is a revenant and related to the story=OFFICIALLY PLAYABLE
-Jax is a revenant and related to the story = PLAYABLE
-Queen Sindel is a revenant and related to the story = PLAYABLE (but many people denies it with such a hatret and ignorance and please do not repeat the same thing ''the outfit is just the same '' because you have to be BLIND not to see the difference !!confusedfurious
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03/04/2015 10:03 PM (UTC)
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alican_zero Wrote:
Other than that , there are some things whih are not lear and makes me wonder

1)If the OFFICIAL roster is like what people assume (YET thankfully the NRS is not as shallow to create a roster which includes only heroes) it's going be absolutely weird because how can I select a villain for The brotherhood of shadows for ONLINE FATION WAR since there is only ONE OFFICIALLYconfirmed character tha suits the theme well, Quan chi ???

2)Seriousy I don' get it;
-Princess Kitana is a revenant and related to the story=OFFICIALLY PLAYABLE
-Jax is a revenant and related to the story = PLAYABLE
-Queen Sindel is a revenant and related to the story = PLAYABLE (but many people denies it with such a hatret and ignorance and please do not repeat the same thing ''the outfit is just the same '' because you have to be BLIND not to see the difference !!confusedfurious


Trust me on this one, Sindel is not playable
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03/04/2015 10:18 PM (UTC)
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I've never seen the word confirmed so heavily misused as its currently being by the entire MK fanbase
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