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12/02/2015 07:48 PM (UTC)
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I just don't give a shit any longer. I've moved on and have my mind focused on other things. I'll purchase the new characters (whenever they arrive and whenever I actually find time to get back toMKX) but the excitement and wonder has long wore off.

I don't know why people want Noob, Cyrax ect- Why not save them as default characters for the actual MK11 roster than last minute bullshit DLC for this long dead game?
That's not getting the spotlight.

I don't even care if Rain makes it at this point. I'm over MKX. Move on to MK11- this shit is dead.
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12/02/2015 07:50 PM (UTC)
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KoldKombat Wrote:
Sindel, Baraka and Rain should be released as complimentary fan service DLC to those who purchased/purchase both Kombat Passes. Those who did not, would have to pay. We deserve it.


Please explain how we deserve it I'm curious.
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Warbro666
12/02/2015 08:21 PM (UTC)
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Blade4ever Wrote:
KoldKombat Wrote:
Sindel, Baraka and Rain should be released as complimentary fan service DLC to those who purchased/purchase both Kombat Passes. Those who did not, would have to pay. We deserve it.


Please explain how we deserve it I'm curious.


Because even though it takes over 5 months of a whole team of people working hard to create 4 characters alone, I should get a whole bunch of free stuff because you made me wait for a finished product goddamnit! And then they have the nerve to charge for their hard work?! Disgusting behaviour.
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12/02/2015 08:38 PM (UTC)
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If you purchased both Kombat Packs already, yes we deserve it because these characters are already on the damn disc. Didn't purchase the Kombat Packs? Yea, charge those people.

Even if it was just one of the three they did a fan vote on to be fully playable, would be nice.
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12/02/2015 08:47 PM (UTC)
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KoldKombat Wrote:
yes we deserve it because these characters are already on the damn disc.


You seriously haven't been paying attention to anything whatsoever have you?

No variations, no voice acting, no brutalities, no fatalities, no x-rays.

Did you even notice that Tanya plays completely differently to how she is in the story mode?

But yeah, carry on thinking Baraka, Sindel and Rain are finished, just locked behind a pay-wall.
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12/02/2015 08:49 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
I don't know why people want Noob, Cyrax ect- Why not save them as default characters for the actual MK11 roster than last minute bullshit DLC for this long dead game?.


I understand your point, but we will not get a new MK for at least 5 years so they could set the table for their return with DLC characters that explain what they were up to.

Also, they're my favs. Logic be damned.grin
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12/02/2015 09:06 PM (UTC)
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Warbro666 Wrote:
Blade4ever Wrote:
KoldKombat Wrote:
Sindel, Baraka and Rain should be released as complimentary fan service DLC to those who purchased/purchase both Kombat Passes. Those who did not, would have to pay. We deserve it.


Please explain how we deserve it I'm curious.


Because even though it takes over 5 months of a whole team of people working hard to create 4 characters alone, I should get a whole bunch of free stuff because you made me wait for a finished product goddamnit! And then they have the nerve to charge for their hard work?! Disgusting behaviour.


I know right? How dare someone take their precious time working hard on their product and having the nerve to actually charge a measly five bucks per DLC character to "unsatisfied" customers who were waiting such a long time for a finished game!
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12/02/2015 09:07 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
this shit is dead.


But it's not.
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12/02/2015 09:13 PM (UTC)
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If i want it I'll pay for it, if i don't I'll probably sell my copy cuz i hate seeing unpurchased dlc on the character menu its an ocd thing
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12/02/2015 09:34 PM (UTC)
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I can tell you this. No way I will pay for fucking Rain, or Sindel, or Baraka. You mean to tell me that you needed close to one year to release these characters as DLC? Characters for which you already had the models and just needed to add a moveset and ONE extra stage? I won't pay a single cent for any of these three characters, rest assured.

Show me that you really needed this long gap to release some awesome, created-from-scratch characters like Cyrax, Reiko, Havik, Sektor, or Shang and add Rain, Baraka, Sindel, and Fujin as free characters to each bundle. Only then will I spend my money
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12/02/2015 09:53 PM (UTC)
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The delusion in this thread is on another planet.

I really suggest you guys send your CV's to NRS, I'll be happy to get all that free stuff you guys think is so easy to make.
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12/02/2015 09:54 PM (UTC)
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I can tell you this. No way I will pay for fucking Rain, or Sindel, or Baraka. You mean to tell me that you needed close to one year to release these characters as DLC? Characters for which you already had the models and just needed to add a moveset and ONE extra stage? I won't pay a single cent for any of these three characters, rest assured.

Show me that you really needed this long gap to release some awesome, created-from-scratch characters like Cyrax, Reiko, Havik, Sektor, or Shang and add Rain, Baraka, Sindel, and Fujin as free characters to each bundle. Only then will I spend my money


I don't get this mentality that because these characters appear in the story suddenly it's like they are the worst ever.

The character model is the simplest part of creating a character for a fighting game. There's much more to that and I think you're underestimating the work here...

I'd be happy with any character that isn't a guest really, but having some sort of story context to the fighting for these characters is a nice thing, imo. And that is why I'd be fine with the likes of Sindel and Baraka being playable.

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12/02/2015 10:01 PM (UTC)
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My problem with the story pack is very simple.

You waited 3 months since you announced the pack so you could "surprise" us with 3 characters everyone saw coming? That's the big surprise? Seriously? C'mon man.

And remember how at launch people complained about too many MK9 characters? The story pack is all fuckin' MK9 characters. This is just a huge double standard. And that's coming from me, a guy who begged for KP2, got it, and is contemplating trading in the game depending on this pack. (Granted the online is what killed it for me but I see the irony)
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12/02/2015 10:08 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
My problem with the story pack is very simple.

You waited 3 months since you announced the pack so you could "surprise" us with 3 characters everyone saw coming? That's the big surprise? Seriously? C'mon man.

And remember how at launch people complained about too many MK9 characters? The story pack is all fuckin' MK9 characters


I don't remember any guarantee that this pack would be surprising. That was never promised.

And since when were Fujin and Bo' Rai Cho in MK9? They're still part of the story.
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12/02/2015 10:12 PM (UTC)
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Warbro666 Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
My problem with the story pack is very simple.

You waited 3 months since you announced the pack so you could "surprise" us with 3 characters everyone saw coming? That's the big surprise? Seriously? C'mon man.

And remember how at launch people complained about too many MK9 characters? The story pack is all fuckin' MK9 characters


I don't remember any guarantee that this pack would be surprising. That was never promised.

And since when were Fujin and Bo' Rai Cho in MK9? They're still part of the story.


Well I mean you wait 3 months after you announce the DLC and I'm thinking maybe they want to surprise us. Why else wouldn't you say who's in the pack?

When people say "story pack" they are generally referring to fightable NPCs like Baraka, Rain, and Sindel. If Fujin or Bo made the pack that'd be fucking great.
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12/02/2015 10:21 PM (UTC)
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JAX007 Wrote:
Demon_0 Wrote:
I can tell you this. No way I will pay for fucking Rain, or Sindel, or Baraka. You mean to tell me that you needed close to one year to release these characters as DLC? Characters for which you already had the models and just needed to add a moveset and ONE extra stage? I won't pay a single cent for any of these three characters, rest assured.

Show me that you really needed this long gap to release some awesome, created-from-scratch characters like Cyrax, Reiko, Havik, Sektor, or Shang and add Rain, Baraka, Sindel, and Fujin as free characters to each bundle. Only then will I spend my money


I don't get this mentality that because these characters appear in the story suddenly it's like they are the worst ever.

The character model is the simplest part of creating a character for a fighting game. There's much more to that and I think you're underestimating the work here...

I'd be happy with any character that isn't a guest really, but having some sort of story context to the fighting for these characters is a nice thing, imo. And that is why I'd be fine with the likes of Sindel and Baraka being playable.



It doesn't take this long to add movesets for four characters. You know this, I know this. And its not just about these characters appearing in the story. Its about postponing KP2 this long with all the secrecy and "hype building" (if thats what this even is) only to reveal a bunch of characters we've already seen in-game back when the game was released. It would make for an anti-climactic reveal. Not to mention that I've never been a big fan of the three.
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12/02/2015 10:21 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
My problem with the story pack is very simple.

You waited 3 months since you announced the pack so you could "surprise" us with 3 characters everyone saw coming? That's the big surprise? Seriously? C'mon man.

And remember how at launch people complained about too many MK9 characters? The story pack is all fuckin' MK9 characters. This is just a huge double standard. And that's coming from me, a guy who begged for KP2, got it, and is contemplating trading in the game depending on this pack. (Granted the online is what killed it for me but I see the irony)


What about being surprised by their gameplay? They've totally done that for me with all of the returning characters.
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12/02/2015 10:45 PM (UTC)
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JAX007 Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
My problem with the story pack is very simple.

You waited 3 months since you announced the pack so you could "surprise" us with 3 characters everyone saw coming? That's the big surprise? Seriously? C'mon man.

And remember how at launch people complained about too many MK9 characters? The story pack is all fuckin' MK9 characters. This is just a huge double standard. And that's coming from me, a guy who begged for KP2, got it, and is contemplating trading in the game depending on this pack. (Granted the online is what killed it for me but I see the irony)


What about being surprised by their gameplay? They've totally done that for me with all of the returning characters.


The only one who remotely looked good to me was Kano. And that's only because he had a grappler variation.

So unless Rain, Baraka, or Sindel start getting command grabs there's nothing they can show me that will make me want to play these MK9 characters. Show me something new like Fujin, Bo Rai' Cho, or Sareena and I'm interested.
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12/02/2015 11:19 PM (UTC)
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Demon_0 Wrote:
JAX007 Wrote:
Demon_0 Wrote:
I can tell you this. No way I will pay for fucking Rain, or Sindel, or Baraka. You mean to tell me that you needed close to one year to release these characters as DLC? Characters for which you already had the models and just needed to add a moveset and ONE extra stage? I won't pay a single cent for any of these three characters, rest assured.

Show me that you really needed this long gap to release some awesome, created-from-scratch characters like Cyrax, Reiko, Havik, Sektor, or Shang and add Rain, Baraka, Sindel, and Fujin as free characters to each bundle. Only then will I spend my money


I don't get this mentality that because these characters appear in the story suddenly it's like they are the worst ever.

The character model is the simplest part of creating a character for a fighting game. There's much more to that and I think you're underestimating the work here...

I'd be happy with any character that isn't a guest really, but having some sort of story context to the fighting for these characters is a nice thing, imo. And that is why I'd be fine with the likes of Sindel and Baraka being playable.



It doesn't take this long to add movesets for four characters. You know this, I know this. And its not just about these characters appearing in the story. Its about postponing KP2 this long with all the secrecy and "hype building" (if thats what this even is) only to reveal a bunch of characters we've already seen in-game back when the game was released. It would make for an anti-climactic reveal. Not to mention that I've never been a big fan of the three.


I don't think you "know" much at all. KP2 wasn't "postponed". They decided to start working on it after release. They're not simply throwing a move set on a character model, there's hours of brainstorming before they even begin animating the numerous moves, specials, fatalities, brutalities, recording the voice overs, the hundreds of damage reaction voice overs... then comes that play testing. After 33 characters are in game, unless my math has failed me, there 9,801 possible match ups.

But nah you're totally justified in calling NRS out on their bullshit. You should send an email to Boon telling him how easy making games is.

EVEN IF you're right and they're purposely delaying things when they already have the finished products ready to go, they're doing it so they can compete with KI Season 3 and SFV. Which, seeing as you clearly understand so much about good business practices, you should respect.

The fact that you don't like the characters is the only thing driving your complaints. We get it, you would rather they be releasing your favourite characters. They're not. Don't buy them then. They're not going to miss your money.
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12/02/2015 11:20 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
JAX007 Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
My problem with the story pack is very simple.

You waited 3 months since you announced the pack so you could "surprise" us with 3 characters everyone saw coming? That's the big surprise? Seriously? C'mon man.

And remember how at launch people complained about too many MK9 characters? The story pack is all fuckin' MK9 characters. This is just a huge double standard. And that's coming from me, a guy who begged for KP2, got it, and is contemplating trading in the game depending on this pack. (Granted the online is what killed it for me but I see the irony)


What about being surprised by their gameplay? They've totally done that for me with all of the returning characters.


The only one who remotely looked good to me was Kano. And that's only because he had a grappler variation.

So unless Rain, Baraka, or Sindel start getting command grabs there's nothing they can show me that will make me want to play these MK9 characters. Show me something new like Fujin, Bo Rai' Cho, or Sareena and I'm interested.


Pretty much this.

There are those certain characters (won't bother naming names) who appear SO frequently in this franchise that I literally just can't muster excitement for anymore. A good portion of the Trilogy cast make me feel this way and I'm not sure why. Now if these characters were to get a lot of new moves and a new style of fighting then sure, color me intrigued. But I'm honestly much more excited at the prospect of seeing what these guys can do with all of the under-utilized characters or new characters all-together.

Would I still welcome them back? Sure. I'm positive that I am one of the minority here who appreciates all MK characters (including the likes of Hsu Hao) but would I be excited about the Story Mode guys and want to go purchase KP2? No. I'd pass honestly. It's like Call of Duty at this point. I stopped buying them after Black Ops 2 because it's essentially the same game and the same multiplayer every time, albeit with small changes here and there to feel new. That's how I feel about a lot of the Trilogy cast at this point. I've been there and done that enough to already know how I'd feel playing them. So unless they can show me something with them that wows me, it's a no go.
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12/02/2015 11:22 PM (UTC)
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I don't think Rain, Sindel or Baraka is part of the Pack.I think Fujin is the only predictable one that's gonna make it. They will surprise us with the rest.
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12/02/2015 11:36 PM (UTC)
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Warbro666 Wrote:
Demon_0 Wrote:
JAX007 Wrote:
Demon_0 Wrote:
I can tell you this. No way I will pay for fucking Rain, or Sindel, or Baraka. You mean to tell me that you needed close to one year to release these characters as DLC? Characters for which you already had the models and just needed to add a moveset and ONE extra stage? I won't pay a single cent for any of these three characters, rest assured.

Show me that you really needed this long gap to release some awesome, created-from-scratch characters like Cyrax, Reiko, Havik, Sektor, or Shang and add Rain, Baraka, Sindel, and Fujin as free characters to each bundle. Only then will I spend my money


I don't get this mentality that because these characters appear in the story suddenly it's like they are the worst ever.

The character model is the simplest part of creating a character for a fighting game. There's much more to that and I think you're underestimating the work here...

I'd be happy with any character that isn't a guest really, but having some sort of story context to the fighting for these characters is a nice thing, imo. And that is why I'd be fine with the likes of Sindel and Baraka being playable.



It doesn't take this long to add movesets for four characters. You know this, I know this. And its not just about these characters appearing in the story. Its about postponing KP2 this long with all the secrecy and "hype building" (if thats what this even is) only to reveal a bunch of characters we've already seen in-game back when the game was released. It would make for an anti-climactic reveal. Not to mention that I've never been a big fan of the three.


I don't think you "know" much at all. KP2 wasn't "postponed". They decided to start working on it after release. They're not simply throwing a move set on a character model, there's hours of brainstorming before they even begin animating the numerous moves, specials, fatalities, brutalities, recording the voice overs, the hundreds of damage reaction voice overs... then comes that play testing. After 33 characters are in game, unless my math has failed me, there 9,801 possible match ups.

But nah you're totally justified in calling NRS out on their bullshit. You should send an email to Boon telling him how easy making games is.

EVEN IF you're right and they're purposely delaying things when they already have the finished products ready to go, they're doing it so they can compete with KI Season 3 and SFV. Which, seeing as you clearly understand so much about good business practices, you should respect.

The fact that you don't like the characters is the only thing driving your complaints. We get it, you would rather they be releasing your favourite characters. They're not. Don't buy them then. They're not going to miss your money.


Woah woah! There's simply too much truth in this post.
I am excited for who's going to be revealed in KP2. NRS outdone themselves with MKX gameplay wise and any extra characters will be greatly received by me and many others!
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12/02/2015 11:47 PM (UTC)
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Demon_0 Wrote:
I can tell you this. No way I will pay for fucking Rain, or Sindel, or Baraka. You mean to telll me that you needed close to one year to release these characters as DLC? Characters for which you already had the models and just needed to add a moveset and ONE extra stage? I won't pay a single cent for any of these three characters, rest assured.

Show me that you really needed this long gap to release some awesome, created-from-scratch characters like Cyrax, Reiko, Havik, Sektor, or Shang and add Rain, Baraka, Sindel, and Fujin as free characters to each bundle. Only then will I spend my money


I can't say I blame you. Rain is my favorite character but Rain, Sindel, and Baraka should've been default characters on the roster from the jump. I fail to see why NRS would need to go damn near five months in silence only to reveal those characters as part of the next Kombat Pack when even fucking Ray Charles saw it coming. I won't be surprised because NRS has been disappointing with this roster since after E3. Every reveal has been a complete bore "Oh Kano!" "Oh wow Kung Lao!" "What? Liu Kang?!" Just so dull- even the few curveballs we got (Tanya and Tremor) just isn't enough.

I'm also hoping Kombat Pack 2 is its own pack and that Sindel/Rain/Baraka are their own because then I can understand why this shit is being dragged to 2016. But I know to expect nothing logical from NRS.
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12/03/2015 12:06 AM (UTC)
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It seems a large amount of complaints have to do with "Well, MY favorite character wasn't playable right away or might not end up as DLC, so the KP2 sucks!" I'm seriously wondering if some of these people would be happy if every character was in every game. Of course, then they'd complain the roster is too large. Sigh.
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12/03/2015 12:12 AM (UTC)
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Ninjor Wrote:
It seems a large amount of complaints have to do with "Well, MY favorite character wasn't playable right away or might not end up as DLC, so the KP2 sucks!" I'm seriously wondering if some of these people would be happy if every character was in every game. Of course, then they'd complain the roster is too large. Sigh.


It's more like "Show us something new please."

In my case it's "Netcode is ass and only Fujin, Bo Rai' Cho, Sareena or Li Mei will make me tolerate it."
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