Of course but only the developers are privy to that bias except in regards to Scorpion and Sub-Zero unless you can show any others or if even that it exists.

Based on how big their fanbases are.

You believe Kitana will not return, fine thats your opinion.
I'm just saying that she has a decent chance at returning, even if she died. And all of Boon's tweets about her are giving me hope.

I agree that Sub Zero has a big fanbase but I think other characters that died have a bigger fanbase then Kitana such as Liu Kang.

I never said I do not want Kitana to return because I do not care about any character in Mortal Kombat universe other then Scorpion. I said I do not think that Kitana will return and then gave reasons that are logical as to why I think that Kitana will not return. I have nothing against Kitana or any other character. If Kitana is in Mortal Kombat X then good for you but I would not care and if Kitana is not in Mortal Kombat X then cosmiserations and again I would not care. You are welcome to think what you want and you have said that Ed Boon's tweets give you hope. More power to you and I accept that but that does not change my mind because of the reasons I have given that I do not think Kitana will return.

I understand why you think she will not return. I'm just saying that despite the facts you gave she still has a good chance.

Well, lets drop this conversation, because were kinda flooding the thread.

If anyone thinks Liu Kang has a bigger fan base than Kitana then they're sorely mistaken. Lol. Imo die-hard Liu fans seem hard to come by.

Prove to me that I am mistaken.

Youre just fuckin trollin right? First off boom die hard liu fan right here. I didnt bother with mkda til more than a year after its release because they killed liu. Liu kang is still probably more popular than raiden. Yeah did you not know that liu was/is the most popular char besides scorpion and subby? So to say kitana has bigger fan base is just ignorant. Shit kitana may not be top 10 any more and i know she was never top 5.

Liu fans just dont have a huge presence online in forums but to the average fan, liu kang is very well known and liked and still top 5 at least in popularity.

The only chars that have raised a good portion in popularity since mkd is, mileena, rain, ermac, and thats it. Some other chars have gained some but only those three have gained a lot since mkd/in past 10 years!

Idk what the order would be exactly but something like this probably since i doubt itd be same as. Over ten years ago...

1. Scorpion
2. Sub zero
3. Liu Kang
4. Raiden
5. Johnny Cage
6. Smoke
7. Reptile
8. Kitana
9. Kung Lao
10. Ermac
11-20. Sonya, Mileena, Cyrax, Shao Kahn, Baraka, Kenshi, Rain, Kabal, Goro, Quan Chi (11-20 not in any specific order and this list is just speculation from how things were ten years ago and how they are now.)

That would be EPIC! Nightwolf has been one of my faves since his debut in MK3.

this!! it's hilarious to think NRS would reveal so many. i think 1-2 new reveals. well.. let's think about it:

3 characters from mk1-3. raiden, sub zero, scorpion
4 complete new characters. d'vorah, kotal, ferra/torr, cassie

i have huge doubts they gonna reveal a complete new character or an old one. i think they reveal a character from the 3d era. would make the most sense.

If that were the case then Ed would've just ignored all the inquires about Kitana, it's not like she's the only one getting requested incessantly on his twitter...and he even re-tweeted some of the stuf.

Prove to me that you are not. I don't really like Kitana myself but it's obvious that she has a great fanbase. In deviantart she has TONS of fanart, in MK facebook page people are posting about her nonstop, in MKO and in other fansites like TYM there are tons of Kitana supporters and die-hard fans, etc.
I have yet to see people get so vocal about Liu Kang. The days when Liu Kang was popular are way past. He was cool in the 90s but the idea behind his character is so old now that people dgaf anymore.

Liu Kang needs something new and exciting. Maybe he can follow his MK9 ending (minus the Raiden fight part) and become a fire god. I would love this to happen.

Oh, that is easy:

Putting "most popular mortal kombat characters" in an Internet search engine will give you results of various polls.

For example

Looking at the usage lists for characters in Mortal Kombat 9 Liu Kang is fourth for Playstation 3, second for Xbox 360 and third for PC. There is no plausible reason for him to be that used if he was not one of the most popular characters, indeed along with Scorpion, Sub-Zero and Raiden which makes perfect sense because those are the most poplar characters in the franchise as another poster already alluded to.

MKO andTYM represent a very small sample size and are in no way representative of a characters popularity. For example Scorpion is the most popular character in Mortal Kombat but one would never notice that going into forums. Most people are casuals who can not be bothered registering for forums. The same is true for DeviantArt and secondly Kitana is the most popular female character so I expect her to have a lot of art, some of it very disturbing.

Liu Kang has plenty of fans. Definately more then Kitana and the majority of the cast. Only Raiden, Sub-Zero and Scorpion are near him, the only thing is that Liu Kang fans are not vocal on the Internet

So I guess his legions of fans are stuck back in the 90s right along with him, eh? Damn dial up.

JK, just poking fun. I still think Kitana has more fans. All you've done is prove that Liu Kang is extremely popular...which I think 99% of us already know. That still doesn't mean he has more diehard fans than that of Kitana. The fact of the matter is Boon actually SEES Kitana's fans fighting and begging for her to be in which is one better than Liu's mysterious silent legion of internet-less fans are doing. In the age of social media, being vocal on the internet is paramount.

I've definitely voiced my want for Kitana to return on his Twitter page and he's acknowledge the crowd asking for her several times. I agree that social media is a great way to make your voice heard. It also doesn't hurt that one of the developers is a big fan of Kitana. So hopefully we have someone fighting for her behind the scenes as well :)

With the way Boon keeps responding to fans about her I'm sure MK'S number one Lady In Blue will make the cut ;)

And, even if she's not in the default roster she'd be a shoe-in for DLC. Which is more than we can say for a lot of other characters at this point.

You can think what you like, that does not make it true. I have proven that Liu Kang is popular and proven that he is more popular then Kitana. Like the other poster that countered you said Liu Kang is up there with Raiden in popularity and only Sub-Zero and Scorpion are definately more popular. You never said diehard fans. You said that "if anyone thinks that Liu Kang has a bigger fan base then Kitana then they are sorely mistaken" which I have already proved is completely untrue. In fact not even close. Die hard do not represent the majority of any majorly popular character's fan base because as I have already alluded to, Mortal Kombat is mostly played by casuals. The character is in the top 4 for all platforms in usage which is also consistent with his ranking in polls. That speaks for itself how popular Liu Kang is.

You have provided no evidence in showing that Kitana is more popular than Liu Kang even when I asked you to. Your argument is completely archaic based on a fraction of people who play and are interested in the franchise and has no foundation in fact.

First off- last time I checked, this wasn't a class assignment. I'm not required to prove anything to you. In the full post(that you didn't quote) I made sure to say it was my opinion. And do know, being popular and having more fans are not mutually exclusive. Of course Liu Kang is extremely popular as he's the original protagonist and he's the face of the mainstream movies. Being well recognized doesn't mean -"has the most fans" You keep talking about popularity, I never contested that- Liu Kang is EXTREMELY popular as he's well recognized, but simply recognizing something doesn't mean you're a fan of it. You haven't proved anything other than Liu is popular...which I've already known.

The fact of the matter is, this is a stupid debate. Nobody can "prove" who has the bigger fanbase unless me and you take to the streets, kidnap people, force them to take a lie detector task, and then ask who's their favorite character- Kitana or Liu Kang? We better get started while it's still daylight, because we have over 6 billion people to start asking! *eye roll*

And even if Liu Kang DID have a bigger fanbase than Kitana- that doesn't mean shit if their not being vocal. This is about who has a bigger chance at making it into MKX. Kitana's fans are screaming at the top of their lungs and Boon HEARS them. Liu fans haven't said anything.

Right now-

Kitana 1, Liu- 0.

This isn't even a personal attack on Liu Kang because I like the character and I'm not even a Kitana fan(Rain is where it's at) but this was a response to you acting as if Kitana making it in over Liu was impossible.

Not untrue. But the vast likelihood is NRS has had the final roster solid for a while now, so I think the best that any of us are clamoring for is inclusion by DLC.

Of course you have to prove what you write with evidence otherwise how can anyone take anything you write seriously?. That is a piller of debate. If you are going to write completely outlandish statements like you did then back them up with facts otherwise you are trolling like the other poster suggested.

You have not shown anything which is a point I have already made other then fact that it is your belief that having die-hard fans constitute a character's fan-base which I already rebuked because it is absolutely archaic.

Going by your argument nobody knows who the most popular character because we have to " take to the streets, kidnap people, force them to take a lie detector task, and then ask who's their favorite character is" which is completely asinine in the extreme and a gross over-simplication of said argument. Liu Kang is used more then Kitana and in polls is more popular by a long stretch then Kitana. That is obviously indicative of Liu Kang having more fans because otherwise they would not be voting for Liu Kang in polls or using Liu Kang as much as he is being used. That is such a basic assumption that I can not believe I have to explain it. It is the same logic when people say Scorpion is the most popular character in Mortal Kombat because not only he is used the most, Scorpion is also tops fan polls and no amount of people were kidnapped.

I never said that Liu Kang would be making it into Mortal Kombat X over Kitana. I already said in this very thread I do not care about any character other then Scorpion. The original point was to correct martin_m95 when suggested that Kitana and Sub-Zero had the biggest fan-bases of the characters that died in Mortal Kombat 9.

Judging that the release date for this game is next year I doubt any fan requests will change anything this late in the developmen cycle considering the story and character roster must already be finalised. I would think that NRS are hard at work on the move sets of the characters, balancing them out and the modes of the game including the persisitant online mode.

You know, the more I'm sitting on this, I still wouldn't mind showcasing two characters but I would prefer having it be one new and one recurring.

Don't need to show off all of the new characters immediately. But I still would love to see a new arena. I don't have a problem with any of the arenas they've shown so far, but I think it's time for a new environment to fight on now.

I'm dying to see a new arena. Two of the three we have are nice but kinda "safe"
I want a few more eye popping ones.

If it's Quan,it's the dance of joy time.Anything will do though.I really want to see a stage fatality.Excited to see what NRS has in store

I rather not know story mode. I want to be suprized. However for the reveal id like a couple characters revealed or a stage or game mode. Or a combo of all. For characters one old one new would be fine