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redman
03/13/2015 09:44 AM (UTC)
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lol good going smokeman you're responsible for the worst fucking retrospective hahahaha

Great episode as always. I totally agree with cyborg, he would be a one time thing for MKX if he even was introduced. Oh well though if he's in i'm sure they'll make him likable.
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smokeman14
03/13/2015 06:35 PM (UTC)
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redman Wrote:
lol good going smokeman you're responsible for the worst fucking retrospective hahahaha


my pleasure grin
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KenshiMaster16
03/14/2015 01:37 AM (UTC)
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Holy shit! It's so cool Himmerick shouted you guys out, despite thinking you guys ripped the stream apart. LOL Hey, at least you guys know you're def. being heard now! That's awesome shit! grin
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smokeman14
03/14/2015 02:26 AM (UTC)
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Man that was great. Hope he brings the Kast up to Boon, maybe start listening to you guys weekly
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KenshiMaster16
03/14/2015 02:27 AM (UTC)
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I'd love to see their faces if they all listened to that Tremor bit. grin
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Cyborg
03/14/2015 02:53 AM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
I'd love to see their faces if they all listened to that Tremor bit. grin


How embarrassing that would be. lol

Just my luck, the first time they acknowledge us, would be a rare negative type rant from me. But hopefully it was gotten across that it wasn't an issue with the stream, it's just legitimate concern and frustration from many in the kommunity that want to see more gameplay and 3D era characters being playable...
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03/14/2015 03:01 AM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
I'd love to see their faces if they all listened to that Tremor bit. grin


How embarrassing that would be. lol

Just my luck, the first time they acknowledge us, would be a rare negative type rant from me. But hopefully it was gotten across that it wasn't an issue with the stream, it's just legitimate concern and frustration from many in the kommunity that want to see more gameplay and 3D era characters being playable...


Oh they'll definitely get an ear full come release week, and hopefully they saw you guys were being critical but in a constructive, passionate way. I'm still holding out 5% hope that maybe, just maybe there's 1 or 2 surprises in there whether playable or not that'll satisfy my 3D cravings but hopefully they rectify it with DLC. If they royally screw it up though, I'm fully expecting at least 6 characters extra. 8 tops if we're pushing it because of the 2 guest spots.

I like the fact they are going SO bold with the story as to progress it so far into the future and introduce probably the freshest looking group of new characters as a collective that we've had since Deadly Alliance, imo, but they really dropped the ball with the roster. At least 1 character from DA that wasn't Kenshi and 1 from Deception, just to acknowledge those rosters, would've been perfect on top of the characters we already have. An extra 2 characters wouldn't have been that big of a bother, I don't think.
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redman
03/14/2015 06:59 AM (UTC)
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I suggested that he should listen to the netherkast because it's good shit and he said he would.

Also I was thinking that the panel where Sub is flying in the comic reminds me of the scene in Annihilation where Sub randomly like slides in upside down on an icicle lol does anyone remember that shit?

EDIT: Found it sub sliding upside down like a prick

Double EDIT: I listened to the last like 10 minutes of the story stream because I forgot about it but first of all thanks BC for the shoutout. I don't know much about the F13 franchise, but I might check a few of them out now.

Also wanted to mention that I agree with Razor about Johnny's voice. Re-watching some of his scenes in MK9 it just seemed so perfect, they shouldn't have changed it. Even his look is really bothering me. His hair is more of a blondish-brownish this time around and it just looks odd. His entire face looks different than his MK9 look and I just don't really like it. I can buy that this is Johnny Cage but I really don't like that they changed his look so drastically. If anything I expected Cage to be one of the few to look pretty close to his MK9 appearance, I didn't find anything wrong with it.
I get why he looks different but Cage and Sub-Zero are the only voice changes that really bother me at the moment.

Steve Blum is by no means a bad voice actor but holy shit the VA's for Bi-Han and Kuai Liang both did very unique things for their respective brother. Cage's voice in MK9 also seemed to fit him better.
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03/14/2015 10:13 AM (UTC)
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TigerStyle Wrote:
I get why he looks different but Cage and Sub-Zero are the only voice changes that really bother me at the moment.

Steve Blum is by no means a bad voice actor but holy shit the VA's for Bi-Han and Kuai Liang both did very unique things for their respective brother. Cage's voice in MK9 also seemed to fit him better.


I agree. I liked how when you select Sub's alt it uses Bi-Han's voice during the fight. Well besides the intro, but I can see how that would have been really hard to do. Oh and on the Steve Blum thing he is definitely not a bad VA, but he's in so many games now his voice just doesn't belong to Kuai Liang. I really wish they had chosen someone else for him.

It's just kind of odd in general that they mixed up a lot of the returning/new voice actors. It's certainly going to be noticeable at times and i'm afraid that it will take away from the story a bit. Oh well though
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03/14/2015 05:44 PM (UTC)
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Well Netherkast we got Jason. Are you guys gonna talk about him on the next episode along with the story stream and trailers ?
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Cyborg
03/14/2015 06:27 PM (UTC)
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nightbreed_16 Wrote:
Well Netherkast we got Jason. Are you guys gonna talk about him on the next episode along with the story stream and trailers ?


Of course! :)

Razor and I also covered the Cage Family trailer and the stream yesterday right as they happened, but we'll definitely talk about them as a group during the next episode.
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KenshiMaster16
03/14/2015 09:32 PM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
nightbreed_16 Wrote:
Well Netherkast we got Jason. Are you guys gonna talk about him on the next episode along with the story stream and trailers ?


Of course! :)

Razor and I also covered the Cage Family trailer and the stream yesterday right as they happened, but we'll definitely talk about them as a group during the next episode.


Stream shitstorm Part II is gonna be epic. lol
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03/14/2015 10:02 PM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
blackcyborg Wrote:
nightbreed_16 Wrote:
Well Netherkast we got Jason. Are you guys gonna talk about him on the next episode along with the story stream and trailers ?


Of course! :)

Razor and I also covered the Cage Family trailer and the stream yesterday right as they happened, but we'll definitely talk about them as a group during the next episode.


Stream shitstorm Part II is gonna be epic. lol


Eh, I'm over it already. Honestly, it was frustrating in the moment, but I'm way too positive to let that linger. I got it all out, and especially after Himmerick said there would be a lot more shown between now and release, and was cool and nice about everything, it reminded me that they're all human. We've all been in situations where we're working hard to please several people, and making tough calls, and some things are just out of your hands... I believe they are trying to manage a lot of spinning plates and juggling a lot these days during the final hour, I'm not going to harp on it. I got it out, it'd be out of character for me to still be bothered by it lol. It's all good on my end.

Story mode really looked great. Johnny looked great. I feel that was missed in our review, because our original reactions during the stream weren't uploaded. We enjoyed what we saw, our complaints were just mainly with how there's so much not shown still, and why the lack of 3D character playability. The 3D character playability isn't going to hinder my enjoyment of what looks to be an amazing game, and there's still DLC.

As for not showing a lot of stuff still, I've actually been a big advocate of "just show us enough, not too much", and they have done that this time. We all know it's going to be amazing. The fact that there's 10 characters we haven't seen gameplay for yet, is amazing to me. The game still feels so fresh. That's usually not the case for me this close to release, it usually feels like we've seen 80% of it over and over by now. So honestly, I'm pretty happy.

Sorry to disappoint. lol I'm sure someone will still represent the more negative side, or the anti-marketing side...but I must get back on my throne of positivity. :P :)
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03/14/2015 10:39 PM (UTC)
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As for not showing a lot of stuff still, I've actually been a big advocate of "just show us enough, not too much", and they have done that this time. We all know it's going to be amazing. The fact that there's 10 characters we haven't seen gameplay for yet, is amazing to me. The game still feels so fresh. That's usually not the case for me this close to release, it usually feels like we've seen 80% of it over and over by now. So honestly, I'm pretty happy.

Sorry to disappoint. lol I'm sure someone will still represent the more negative side, or the anti-marketing side...but I must get back on my throne of positivity. :P :)


It's hard not to be positive after Jason and NRS acknowledging the podcast now and the future
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03/14/2015 10:58 PM (UTC)
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It's hard not to be positive after Jason and NRS acknowledging the podcast now and the future


Himmerick acknowledging it isn't really a factor in why I am positive, it's cool and all, but it's not as if it means he likes it and will listen to anything beyond whatever portion he did. So that's a non factor.

It has everything to do with MKX being an amazing game from everything we've seen, and the fact that they still have so much to show, isn't necessarily a bad thing, not to me at least. It was just a brief moment of frustration, but ultimately I'd prefer a fresher experience filled with stuff I haven't seen and analyzed for weeks/months. I'm just genuinely happy and content with what we are getting.

Jason is a big plus too, but that's all part of how great it all is.

My only 2 disappointments currently are:

-No mention of Cyrax, and I'm starting to question him being alive, and possibility of being DLC.

-Lack of Fujin, Reiko, Havik, Li Mei etc. as playable characters.
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03/14/2015 10:59 PM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
blackcyborg Wrote:
nightbreed_16 Wrote:
Well Netherkast we got Jason. Are you guys gonna talk about him on the next episode along with the story stream and trailers ?


Of course! :)

Razor and I also covered the Cage Family trailer and the stream yesterday right as they happened, but we'll definitely talk about them as a group during the next episode.


Stream shitstorm Part II is gonna be epic. lol


Eh, I'm over it already. Honestly, it was frustrating in the moment, but I'm way too positive to let that linger. I got it all out, and especially after Himmerick said there would be a lot more shown between now and release, and was cool and nice about everything, it reminded me that they're all human. We've all been in situations where we're working hard to please several people, and making tough calls, and some things are just out of your hands... I believe they are trying to manage a lot of spinning plates and juggling a lot these days during the final hour, I'm not going to harp on it. I got it out, it'd be out of character for me to still be bothered by it lol. It's all good on my end.

Story mode really looked great. Johnny looked great. I feel that was missed in our review, because our original reactions during the stream weren't uploaded. We enjoyed what we saw, our complaints were just mainly with how there's so much not shown still, and why the lack of 3D character playability. The 3D character playability isn't going to hinder my enjoyment of what looks to be an amazing game, and there's still DLC.

As for not showing a lot of stuff still, I've actually been a big advocate of "just show us enough, not too much", and they have done that this time. We all know it's going to be amazing. The fact that there's 10 characters we haven't seen gameplay for yet, is amazing to me. The game still feels so fresh. That's usually not the case for me this close to release, it usually feels like we've seen 80% of it over and over by now. So honestly, I'm pretty happy.

Sorry to disappoint. lol I'm sure someone will still represent the more negative side, or the anti-marketing side...but I must get back on my throne of positivity. :P :)


It's all good, was more of a joke than anything. I made a similar case of them probably lacking on this stream because of crunch time in another thread so I'll let them pass. Next time however, I fully expect several more on the select screen. I at least expect a run-down of their variations, maybe not fatalities and all that stuff but just a general run-down of how they play.

It is pretty amazing how tight-lipped they're being this time around. It's sorta weird all things considering. However, I fully expect the game will leak in 2-ish weeks via torrents probably so the calm won't last.
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03/14/2015 11:10 PM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
smokeman14 Wrote:
It's hard not to be positive after Jason and NRS acknowledging the podcast now and the future


Himmerick acknowledging it isn't really a factor in why I am positive, it's cool and all, but it's not as if it means he likes it and will listen to anything beyond whatever portion he did.


I don't know. I think he'd listen to a podcast specifically for MK, and Himmerick said he would listen to the Netherkast some more.
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Brady_Got_Caged
03/15/2015 09:57 PM (UTC)
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The Netherkast is great. I'm a subscriber. Cyborg, I remember in a post you said earlier that when the game is out that you're going not going to be on the boards as much. Does that mean that you'll stop updating the Netherkast? Also, Razor man. Sucks you're not here anymore. We need more people like you who know the lore. People who've been joining recently don't know jack shit.
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KenshiMaster16
03/15/2015 10:59 PM (UTC)
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The Netherkast is great. I'm a subscriber. Cyborg, I remember in a post you said earlier that when the game is out that you're going not going to be on the boards as much. Does that mean that you'll stop updating the Netherkast?


This. Here's hoping it continues. If they do, they still have a ton of stuff they could cover from covering each game on their own as a whole to DLC when that happens to the movies and more Graveyard Shifts. You guys have become a staple to my weekly listening so I hope you all stick around.
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03/16/2015 02:54 AM (UTC)
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Quick question to Black Cyborg. Did you fix your audio and speed problems you had last night because I hope it doesn't effect the next episode or other streamings ?
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03/16/2015 03:50 AM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Brady_Got_Caged Wrote:
The Netherkast is great. I'm a subscriber. Cyborg, I remember in a post you said earlier that when the game is out that you're going not going to be on the boards as much. Does that mean that you'll stop updating the Netherkast?


This. Here's hoping it continues. If they do, they still have a ton of stuff they could cover from covering each game on their own as a whole to DLC when that happens to the movies and more Graveyard Shifts. You guys have become a staple to my weekly listening so I hope you all stick around.


Thanks guys.

The future is not certain at this point. We'll probably address that and figure out exactly what the plan is, a few weeks after MKX is out, and we cover everything there is to cover etc. We would certainly like to keep doing them, and to cover the whole series as well as the franchise as a whole, but it's too early to tell.

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Quick question to Black Cyborg. Did you fix your audio and speed problems you had last night because I hope it doesn't effect the next episode or other streamings ?


Audio issues were fixed about 25 minutes into the stream. I also don't use that setup while doing the normal shows, only when live streaming so you guys can hear everyone else. So that would have been a non-issue regarding anything but live streams. As for future live streams, the problem was fixed audio wise, but I'm not sure why the archived/uploaded version of it somehow glitched the way it did. It ended up being 16+ hours long, because somehow it looks as though it got slowed down by about 4-5x normal speed. It was really weird, and I'm not sure what caused it. So the video is gone. I plan to test it sometime to see if it persists, but it may have just been something random that caused it to glitch like that.

With Xbox One and PS4 when MKX comes out, we'll likely be doing things through twitch since they are integrated with the consoles themselves. I still have to try those out though, and see if it's possible to have everyone else's vocals coming through for everyone to hear. Once we get closer to release, I definitely plan on testing things out, and seeing how it goes. If that doesn't work, I can always just use the capture device I've been using, if it's not the issue that caused the glitch of course.
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redman
03/16/2015 04:12 AM (UTC)
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damn, sad I missed that long ass stream lol. :(
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03/16/2015 04:15 AM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
Audio issues were fixed about 25 minutes into the stream. I also don't use that setup while doing the normal shows, only when live streaming so you guys can hear everyone else. So that would have been a non-issue regarding anything but live streams. As for future live streams, the problem was fixed audio wise, but I'm not sure why the archived/uploaded version of it somehow glitched the way it did. It ended up being 16+ hours long, because somehow it looks as though it got slowed down by about 4-5x normal speed. It was really weird, and I'm not sure what caused it. So the video is gone. I plan to test it sometime to see if it persists, but it may have just been something random that caused it to glitch like that.

With Xbox One and PS4 when MKX comes out, we'll likely be doing things through twitch since they are integrated with the consoles themselves. I still have to try those out though, and see if it's possible to have everyone else's vocals coming through for everyone to hear. Once we get closer to release, I definitely plan on testing things out, and seeing how it goes. If that doesn't work, I can always just use the capture device I've been using, if it's not the issue that caused the glitch of course.


Ok thanks for letting me know I was worried because I like you guys and your streams I am glad you got it fixed..smile
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03/16/2015 04:48 AM (UTC)
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redman Wrote:
damn, sad I missed that long ass stream lol. :(


It was about 4 hours or so long. It somehow got glitched after we were finished though, and youtube turned it into a 16+ hour video. Hence why it was an issue, because everything got turned into about 4-5x slower than it is supposed to be, making it unwatchable. But it's all good. Hopefully the issue isn't persistent.
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