for the last time dont trust wiki.

Dunno. I don't really use Wikipedia because it isn't so trustable.

I don't...but it's stupid that someone mixed the two up...

I always thought Kano used Butterfly Knives...

Butterfly Knives look like switch blades...Butterfly Swords are short swords, small dao actually. He is DEFINETLY not using Butterfly Knives in DA...You can see the difference

Okay, cool, I just usually picture a sword as being more long...

because the semantic meaning of Dao in chinese homoformed with both knives and swords. IN this reasoning, having butterfly knives and butterfly
swords are both valid.

Dao means knife in chinese anyway. oh, butterfly knives are erroneously given to switchblades.

stupid people
who can edit mk info

Yes, but Butterfly Swords count as Short Swords...that's all I'm saying. And that Butterfly Knives are in reference to the Balisong (Sp?)...
and I can't edit it if it doesn't have the edit option like the other sections have

The game calls them Butterfly Knives so that is how it will stay regardless of whether it is erroneous or not.

But they are Butterfly Swords...Sure Butterfly Swords can be called Butterfly knives but it links to the Balisong...which is nothing alike
The link in the least needs to be changed

Fine, I changed the link so that it goes to the "Butterfly sword" article. Happy?

Yes, very

well actually they are butterfly knives, fair enough they arent the street gangsta type butterfly flick knife's, but i have trained in chinese martail arts pak mei to be exact and ive also trained in many weapon styles including the ones kano uses and even my sifu calls them butterfly knives and he himself is chinese

so actually both are called butterfly knives but the ones you are refering to are a street name for a petty flick knife

yeah, ive trained with em too. they are butterfly knives. the games say so, i say so, And ^says so.

What animal does Pak Mei immitate mostly? Im curious...

uhh it is butterfly knives cause isnt like a machete a small knife and in the game its like a long sword but it is butterfly knives cause i read it somewhere not wiki

There Butterfly Swords...Butterfly Swords can be refered to as Butterfly Knives but they are Butterfly Swords...

Yes, the term Butterfly Knife can be applied to Butterfly Swords but it's mostly in reference to the Balisong...I explained that earlier
I know Chinese weapons, besides LOOK at Kano's weapon and look up Butterfly Swords...KANO IS WEILDING A BUTTERFLY SWORD called by it's alternate name, Butterfly Knife....BUT wikipedia liked Butterfly Knife to the Balisong when it should have gone to the Butterfly Sword

well it actually doesnt immitate any animal at all, if anything it immitates an arrowhead ^ , pak mei which is chinese for White Eyebrow (the name given to him from the Buddhist Monks due to his long white eyebrow) was at the time the most effective martial arts also known as the forbidden art due to pak mei's eventual betrayel of his former monks, the reason it was the most effective was because it was the art of killing, breaking bones, gauging eyeballs, it uses the phoenix fist in most of its systems for pressure points and weak spots also using the hammer fist for strong blows to the face and finiger tips to the eyes and throat, it resembles an arrow because everything should deflect off an arrowhead (for defense) and also because in most systems of pak mei your feet move in arrows (front right arrow, back right, front left, back left etc etc).

many movies have used pak mei's image (for example kill bill vol 2 (pai mei)) if you would like any other information chrome don't hesitate to ask

I heard that Pai Mei has NOTHING to do with the Shaolin and the whole betraying the Shaolin monks thing or whatever is just made up.

As for animal imitation, I thought Pai Mei Quan follows the movements of the tiger.

i am talking about pak mei, and like alot of chinese martial arts it has the basic "defend like a leopard, attack like a tiger" technique, but its movements do not resemble a tiger, this is where alot of people get confused because white eyebrow and white tiger are not the same thing, and they were invented by 2 different monks, the master who invented white tiger was from memory a buddhist monk where as pak mei was a taoist, and the whole betrayel thing is actual documented history, from centuries ago during the Ching dynasty, he later went on to form the anti-chang triads to rise up against the ching dynasty but was captured during an assasination attempt and forced to teach his pak mei kung fu to the ching dynasty soldier's or they would kill pak mei's students (the anti ching triads), which is where the current day triads get their name from.

This isn't strictly MKA-related. It's being moved to the Classic MK discussion forum - as Kano has to date appeared only in MKDA before MKA, if it fits anywhere, it's there, really.

Bak Mei, pak mei, pai mei, baimei are all the same, but with different characterisation (Wado-giles or pinyin method). White Tiger is Pai Hu,
and the information you stated could be looked up in both wikipedia or Martial Arts encyclopedia.

Did some research on the butterfly knife/sword and guess what...

directly KNIVEs is correct. Dao means knife, Jian means sword, and there is no way jian can be a wholy rounded suffixoid after the chinese character of the butterfly part.

I request that it should be reinstated as butterfly knives on wikipedia.
Btw, the balisongs namesake has nothing to do with the martial arts
weapon, and get over it.

yes it can be looked up in wikipedia or the martial arts site u mentioned, but so can anything

and like i said from the beginning IT IS KNIVES!