The Death of the MK Storyline.

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posted08/02/2003 01:18 PM (UTC)by

NovaStarr

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I feel that with by the death of Liu Kang, the MK storyline went as well. In previous games *before MK4* the story did not always connect, especially if you went by some of the alternate endings, but you could usually count on Liu Kang's endings to be valid in the following games.

The story *as well as fatalities* has always been the addicting item in Mortal Kombat. The story is what always kept me wondering what will happen in the coming games. And to tide the inter-game waiting period over, I would content myself with imagining what might happen. If I went by Liu Kang's story, for example in MK1, I would know that Shang Tsung and Goro were defeated. I would not know that Shang Tsung could come back, or Goro for that matter, but I would be safer in assuming that those two would be gone, than by trying to go by another character, such as Rayden's ending, and thinking that there would be nothing but crazed deities inthe next game.

In MK4, Liu Kang's story first started to weaken. But there were many ways in which it could have been interpreted to still work to the benefit of future games. But in MKDA, the loss of Liu Kang left a large whole in the storyline. There was no replacement character that you could truly follow the storyline with, as the "Chosen One" who's fate is interlaced with the tournament.

All the character's have their business in the game, but none can truly carry the story on by themselves. Except perhaps the villains, which leaves the game unbalanced, with no hope for the Earthrealm.

What are all of your thoughts on this?

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•07/27/2003 07:11 AM (UTC) •

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ShingoEX

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•07/27/2003 07:14 AM (UTC) •

Well, considering the original champion was the 1st Kung Lao, MK has set itself up to have a possible successor to the "hero throne" once again...

It's a neat idea to have a tournament that lasted generations actually move on to the next one before our eyes. Remember, most of the competitors aren't immortal...

~Crow~

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•07/27/2003 07:15 AM (UTC) •

Sorry, but I have to strongly diagree with you here. I feel that the death of Liu Kang is the rebirth of the MK Storyline. Sure, you could count on Kang's ending to be true... but how is that interesting? The same character winning over and over and over and.... its just not a very entertaining story.

With the new developments, it makes things more interesting. For once, we are assured Liu Kang is not the victor once again, we are left with a mystery as far as the outcome of MKDA goes. Did the Deadly Alliance preveil? Doubtful, but did they survive? Probable. And what are we to make of this new character, the Dragon King? What will be his role in MK6? And what Earth warrior will lead the attack?

Personally, I see Kung Lao as the new 'chosen one'. His ancestor was the great champion of Mortal Kombat once remember? I think he can easily carry MK as the 'hero'. Without Liu Kang in MK6, we can count on a new beginning to a series that was already in trouble. Killing off Liu Kang, could have in fact saved MK in the long run.

SubScorpTile

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•07/27/2003 07:18 AM (UTC) •

not exactly nova, i think its a new beginning and it adds more depth to the game and a very unpredictable future, i like it and i think a successor would be stupid but one of the current guys would be good to use like Kung Lao

NovaStarr

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TemperaryUserName Wrote: ...the best solution is set an example.
Show some tolerance. Be a fucking leader.

1337...there is no 1337 none of us can be 1337 because we are all the same, we are all human. The sooner we realize that, the better off we'll be.

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•07/27/2003 07:19 AM (UTC) •

Hmm, I never thought if it from the perspective of Kung Lao taking over. I like Kung Lao too so I wouldn't mind if he took that position. I don't think as many people would want him killed off *at least not enough to petition for it -_-* and that he may just be the revival to the story. Hmm, thanks fo the thoughts guys, very nice. I'd still love to hear more though.

nindz

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•07/27/2003 09:30 AM (UTC) •

I'd personally like to see Shang Tsung win this won. He never really had a chance to shine cos Kang man. Good riddance to liu kang. i'd like kang to be ressurected by tsung as an evil character....that would be sweet

Omega Supreme

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•07/27/2003 11:21 AM (UTC) •

Wow Nindz, you change your avatar faster than I can say 1337.

Anyway, as for the story.

My brothers (I'll call them Unas and Thorac, as they are called in their profiles) and especially I, who are MK storyline buffs have always been very critical of MK's story. We also feel the death of Liu Kang to be an improvement of the storyline. Why?

Well, Liu Kang kind of had a stranglehold of the story. He was THE MK champion, and it was very unlikely that he could be defeated by just one opponent, or worse, killed in an accident or just die of old age or slip to the evil side. In my own fanfic I had Liu Kang simply disappear but that actually was a bit lame, too.

His death released the storyline and opened up multiple possibilities. There is room for lots of exciting stuff now. Who will win? Most take a safe bet on Kung Lao. But we shouldn't forget that the other classic warriors are slowly getting older. Sub-Zero, Jax, Sonya, Kano, Johnny Cage... they have all past the mark of 30, some even 40. They can't live forever.

MK:DA has enormous potential as a prequel to a new, massive storyline such as the plots and wars of Shao Kahn (I have always felt Shinnok was not worked out terribly well). Who will the Dragon King be? Should he be evil? Or neutral? It's the first MK since MK2 that really has me guessing as to how the story will actually develop.

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•07/27/2003 12:08 PM (UTC) •

After playing MKDA for the first time and learning the storyline about the Dragon King, I guess I do wish a little Liu Would be killed in MK6. I mean, what a way to introduce the new boss than to kill the immortal champion of Mortal Kombat? Though I'm not dissapointed in the least Shang Tsung killed him. It makes sense. I hope Kung Lao takes the new role of hero. He's always been in the shadows of Liu and not just storyline wise, but he's always been a very very good player too like Liu Kang. Fast, unpredictable.

nindz

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•07/27/2003 12:11 PM (UTC) •

lol VainQueur! guess i cant make my mind up!

VainQueur Wrote:
Wow Nindz, you change your avatar faster than I can say 1337.

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•07/27/2003 06:21 PM (UTC) •

ShingoEX Wrote:

It's a neat idea to have a tournament that lasted generations actually move on to the next one before our eyes. Remember, most of the competitors aren't immortal...

Hmm, I never thought of it in that context before. It's kind of intruging, actually.

I too want to see shang come out on top in this one. He's uber evil dude supreme!!

I can deffinatly see where your coming from, NovaStarr. However, I think I read a post somewhere in which you expresed a certain admiration for Liu...

. Your Liu Kang fetish might sway your ideals...just a little bit.

J/K!!

But, yah, no one seams to have a relevenat story or a concrete path. I just think it's part of the full circle which comes back around to the fact that the story, gameplay, and overall MK experience is taking a whole new approach. Things need just a little more time to develope. Peace and love ya'll.

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•07/27/2003 06:40 PM (UTC) •

To be honest, I really liked Liu Kang in the first MK the most. After MK2, he was pretty much the same and that got boring too quickly. I'm glad that he was killed off so that Kung Lao can finally shine. I think Kung Lao has a lot of potential as the new main protagonist of MK but his storyline path should be different and more interesting than Liu's otherwise, the MK storyline will end up in the same bad cycle of the same person winning. I think that they should just let Kung Lao's MKDA ending happen where he defeats Shang Tsung. I would like to see Kung Lao get some sort of vision from Liu Kang telling Kung that he will lose in MK6.

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•07/27/2003 10:41 PM (UTC) •

I like Liu Kang, but his death was a great idea to the storyline. My friends sometimes ask me "where is liu kang?" and I tell he is dead. This is a great surprise for them.

With the death of Liu Kang, the storyline for some characters grow big. Kung Lao fighting for revenge, the sadness of Kitana, the triumph of Deadly Alliance.

But I really hope that Liu Kang return in MK6 (not in kano body, of course).

Nikodemus

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•07/27/2003 11:25 PM (UTC) •

I remember when I first got mkda home, me and my friend Shawn both watched the intro and were completely shocked when we saw Shang Tsung snap Kang's neck. At first I didn't really know what to think but the more I thought about it the more I realized how great it was for the mk storyline. The death of Kang lets someone else take up the role of earth champion and that in itself makes things a lot more interesting.

Even tho Kang is dead and we all saw him die Midway could alwyas bring him back...look at Cage. (I don't really want him to come back tho)

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•07/27/2003 11:40 PM (UTC) •

About Johnny Cage

This was a big surprise for me when they announced MKDA. Cage's return? For what? His storyline is becoming boring. He's always looking a Mortal Kombat to make a new movie?

I don't doubt that in the future MKs, Johnny Cage himself promoves a tournament with all the money he had.

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•07/28/2003 03:03 AM (UTC) •

i think its good that liu kang died b/c he got boring after a while, but i would like to see sub-zero become the new champion, b/c in my opinion i think it might be a lil boring having another monk as the chamion, i think it would be cool 2 see a ninja as the champ, plus sub is my fav character

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•07/28/2003 03:18 AM (UTC) •

I believe that the death of Lu Kang was bound to happen sooner or later. And frankly I am happy to see him go. I believe that he was a waste of space. I am welcoming to the idea of the new MK story line. Oldones kept you on the edge of your seat just waiting for the new one to arrive, but I believe it is time for someone else to step up and take the lead. The story has been crying for help. I will be very happy to see LU Kang out of the picture for good!

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•07/28/2003 10:44 PM (UTC) •

Most people are saying, or thinking, that Kung Lao or some other existing character will take over liu's role in MK6. I believe that MK:DA set things in motion for the next generation of MK warriors to step forward. Of course it wouldn't be MK if the old hero's didn't play some role in the story but...Kung lao and Bo Rai' Cho working together to train 'new' fighters? Sub-Zero as grandmaster training 'new' Lin Quei? The Red Dragon? all these 'new' things, plus those not mentioned, are the future of MK...not past Kombatants.

All though we all know that it would be nice to see some oldies return.

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•07/29/2003 05:29 AM (UTC) •

Watch MK6 be like the dark mortal kombat. Maybe this time the evil side previals. I mean the human charactershave to go soon. Sonya, Jax, Cage, ect. They all got the end coming up. Maybe Kitana will stay because she can live long..but I bet she'll die. Obviously Reptile will be around. Li Mei is already gone..I think. Unless she is a soldier for the DK army. I kinda wish Frost defeated Subbie.. mean he is getting old. But the stoyline seems to be starting over..an som people are afraid of seeing MK fail but it can be better. I hope Scorpion actually becomes MK champ in the next game. It can go perfect while this new story is coming up. He is neutral afterall. He can be the key to the present MK to the evolution of MK.

Sub-Zero_7th

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•07/29/2003 01:50 PM (UTC) •

ReptileHumpedU Wrote:
Watch MK6 be like the dark mortal kombat. Maybe this time the evil side previals. I mean the human charactershave to go soon. Sonya, Jax, Cage, ect. They all got the end coming up. Maybe Kitana will stay because she can live long..but I bet she'll die. Obviously Reptile will be around. Li Mei is already gone..I think. Unless she is a soldier for the DK army. I kinda wish Frost defeated Subbie.. mean he is getting old. But the stoyline seems to be starting over..an som people are afraid of seeing MK fail but it can be better. I hope Scorpion actually becomes MK champ in the next game. It can go perfect while this new story is coming up. He is neutral afterall. He can be the key to the present MK to the evolution of MK.

Well I do think that the forces of evil should gain an upper hand in MK6 but I don't think that Scorpion's storyline will be the key to the evolution of MKs storyline because there isn't much purpose in his storyline. In MKDA he was only after Quan Chi and of course Scorpion had to deal with the Onis but that was pretty much it. I do see a future for Scorpion with his MKDA ending (if it will happen in the storyline) and I think it will change his character a lot.

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•07/30/2003 12:57 PM (UTC) •

Next time, I won't stay underground with my comments about the MK story. I only made one thread about how Liu Kang's death disrupted the MK story because he is supposed to be immortal...

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•07/30/2003 08:29 PM (UTC) •

I take it you refer to the "immortal champion of Mortal Kombat" line?

Immortal was not used in the literal sense here. Probably more in the sense of having acquired another form of immortality (through fame, for example).

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Subzero_5th

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•07/30/2003 10:38 PM (UTC) •

There are 2 different definitions of immortal. Liu Kang's case would be that he can't die of old age, because of that he can live forever. But he can be killed. So technically he's still mortal. In Rayden's case it means he cannot be killed so easily, well not by a mortal anyway

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•07/31/2003 03:17 AM (UTC) •

Actually, the story has been dead since MK3, in terms of quality at least. But through fanfic writers, a "little bit" of quality MK story content lives on.

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•07/31/2003 04:04 PM (UTC) •

TemperaryUserName Wrote:
Actually, the story has been dead since MK3, in terms of quality at least. But through fanfic writers, a "little bit" of quality MK story content lives on.

Why do you think so?

Also, what would you have suggested instead of MK3's storyline (and that of later MKs)?

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