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Turn on your light and they'll see you. Make a sound and they'll hear you. If you think it's scary being lost...

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09/22/2008 03:30 PM (UTC)
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At least both of my beloved sorcerers are in the game (Shang being playable and Quan being an NPC in story mode)
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BiohazardEXTREME
09/22/2008 04:42 PM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:
I think that's the problem with the world these days. People try to make everything practical, which makes things very unspectacular.

People only care about 'what works', and not about what might look spectacular. The world has lost its sense of style.

It's why the Batmobile looks like a tank now. And yes, I do think the classic Batmobile was much better.

It's not like Quan Chi's running around in an all-purpose utility suit.
The current design is style meeting function. It communicates elements of the character that include, and connect to, natural progression in his story and development, while also posessing a flair that makes it unique and relevant to the universe.

I'm certainly not about to argue that MK couldn't do with some splashes of design sense, but Quan Chi and other "classic" MK designs are not apt examples.

Modern design and entertainment may have become more utilitarian, but it's also more intelligent. Hopefully MK can catch up, rather than kowtow to the functionless and the gaudy.


Well, more utilitarian isn't always a good thing.
And say what you will about MK's older designs, but the Quan Chi costume was awesome. Period.
Of course, Midway didn't exactly create that design, but still, they turned it from a cartoon to a reality. I remember when I first saw MK4, and among the new characters, looking at them I said to myself, "Who the hell are these guys?" The one costume that had an impact and was memorable was Quan Chi's.
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09/22/2008 04:50 PM (UTC)
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Yey!

My husband makes a cameo! This going to be so cool!
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Mobster_For_SATAN
09/22/2008 05:42 PM (UTC)
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SlapnutsV1 Wrote:
I think that's Monster lying in two pieces. The right side has what appears to be horns coming from what could be the back/head.

"Monster" is Scorpion. He wasnt a new character.
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BiohazardEXTREME
09/22/2008 05:46 PM (UTC)
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Monster used Scorpion's move set, but the character itself wasn't Scorpion. It was simply the Elder Gods' champion, at the time.
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TheAdder
09/22/2008 06:20 PM (UTC)
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LarryL Wrote:
Yea right dude! You're crazy. The in-game models in MK vs DC look better than than any other next gen fighter so far.


*coughbullshitcough*
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09/22/2008 06:41 PM (UTC)
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Cool.
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09/22/2008 07:30 PM (UTC)
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BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:
Monster used Scorpion's move set, but the character itself wasn't Scorpion. It was simply the Elder Gods' champion, at the time.


Monster was never the Elder Gods' champion.

He was created by Onaga to test Shujinko's knowledge and strength. Scorpion was, is, and will always be, champion of the Elder Gods.



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09/22/2008 07:32 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:
Monster used Scorpion's move set, but the character itself wasn't Scorpion. It was simply the Elder Gods' champion, at the time.


Monster was never the Elder Gods' champion.

He was created by Onaga to test Shujinko's knowledge and strength. Scorpion was, is, and will always be, champion of the Elder Gods.





Umm... Scorpion wasn't Elder Gods' champion until he was hurled into the soulnado in MKDA. Now... Where exactly does it say that Monster was created by Onaga?
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09/22/2008 07:42 PM (UTC)
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BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:

Umm... Scorpion wasn't Elder Gods' champion until he was hurled into the soulnado in MKDA.


Nevertheless, he is their champion.

BiohazardEXTREME Then Wrote:


Now... Where exactly does it say that Monster was created by Onaga?


Use common sense, where else could he have possibly come from?

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BiohazardEXTREME
09/22/2008 07:45 PM (UTC)
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Like I said, my theory is that before Scorpion became the Elder Gods' champion, there is a very reasonable possibility that they had another champion. And since it was obviously not Shujinko, it's reasonable to believe that this unnamed 'Monster' was their champion, which is why he attacked Shujinko.
The pattern similarities between Scorpion's and Monster's armor also support this theory.
Plus, didn't Monster SAY that it was the champion of Elder Gods?
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09/22/2008 07:49 PM (UTC)
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BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:
Like I said, my theory is that before Scorpion became the Elder Gods' champion, there is a very reasonable possibility that they had another champion. And since it was obviously not Shujinko, it's reasonable to believe that this unnamed 'Monster' was their champion, which is why he attacked Shujinko.
The pattern similarities between Scorpion's and Monster's armor also support this theory.


The similarities between the two were merely used for a foreshadowing.

In any case, why would the Elder Gods create someone who's similar to Scorpion, THEN use the actual Scorpion afterwards? They should've just used Scorpion from the start, don't you think?
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09/22/2008 07:50 PM (UTC)
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Crunchie made it in the story mode? Awesome!
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BiohazardEXTREME
09/22/2008 07:53 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:
Like I said, my theory is that before Scorpion became the Elder Gods' champion, there is a very reasonable possibility that they had another champion. And since it was obviously not Shujinko, it's reasonable to believe that this unnamed 'Monster' was their champion, which is why he attacked Shujinko.
The pattern similarities between Scorpion's and Monster's armor also support this theory.


The similarities between the two were merely used for a foreshadowing.

In any case, why would the Elder Gods create someone who's similar to Scorpion, THEN use the actual Scorpion afterwards? They should've just used Scorpion from the start, don't you think?


Because this was when Shujinko was very young, which means Scorpion was probably an infant, or a child back then.
Scorpion only became a Specter 2 years before MK1, and when that happened he was 30 years old. And MK1 didn't come around until Shujinko was old enough to have grey hair.

Scorpion wouldn't have even ended up being their champion if he didn't get sucked into the Soulnado.
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09/22/2008 08:04 PM (UTC)
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BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:

Because this was when Shujinko was very young, which means Scorpion was probably an infant, or a child back then.
Scorpion only became a Specter 2 years before MK1, and when that happened he was 30 years old. And MK1 didn't come around until Shujinko was old enough to have grey hair.

Scorpion wouldn't have even ended up being their champion if he didn't get sucked into the Soulnado.


Infant?

Scorpion has existed since the age of the great Kung Lao. WTF are you talking about?
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TheAdder
09/22/2008 08:11 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:

Because this was when Shujinko was very young, which means Scorpion was probably an infant, or a child back then.
Scorpion only became a Specter 2 years before MK1, and when that happened he was 30 years old. And MK1 didn't come around until Shujinko was old enough to have grey hair.

Scorpion wouldn't have even ended up being their champion if he didn't get sucked into the Soulnado.


Infant?

Scorpion has existed since the age of the great Kung Lao. WTF are you talking about?


No he hasn't, what the fuck are YOU talking about?
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BiohazardEXTREME
09/22/2008 08:12 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:

Because this was when Shujinko was very young, which means Scorpion was probably an infant, or a child back then.
Scorpion only became a Specter 2 years before MK1, and when that happened he was 30 years old. And MK1 didn't come around until Shujinko was old enough to have grey hair.

Scorpion wouldn't have even ended up being their champion if he didn't get sucked into the Soulnado.


Infant?

Scorpion has existed since the age of the great Kung Lao. WTF are you talking about?


You DO realize the Video Game storyline, and the Movie storyline are not one and the same...
That Scorpion existed in the Mortal Kombat Conquest TV series, has nothing to do with the storyline of the video games, where he was born 32 years before MK1.
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TheAdder
09/22/2008 08:19 PM (UTC)
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BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:

Because this was when Shujinko was very young, which means Scorpion was probably an infant, or a child back then.
Scorpion only became a Specter 2 years before MK1, and when that happened he was 30 years old. And MK1 didn't come around until Shujinko was old enough to have grey hair.

Scorpion wouldn't have even ended up being their champion if he didn't get sucked into the Soulnado.


Infant?

Scorpion has existed since the age of the great Kung Lao. WTF are you talking about?


You DO realize the Video Game storyline, and the Movie storyline are not one and the same...
That Scorpion existed in the Mortal Kombat Conquest TV series, has nothing to do with the storyline of the video games, where he was born 32 years before MK1.


Is that what he's talking about? I would figure it would be pretty common knowledge that only the games are canon to the games.
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BiohazardEXTREME
09/22/2008 08:24 PM (UTC)
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Well, that's the only thing I can think of that states that the great Kung Lao and Scorpion existed in the same era. So I'm assuming that's what they're talking about.

But that being the case, I suggest you separate your MK Movie mythos and MK Game mythos and catch up on the storyline from that perspective.

But yeah, when Shujinko started his journey, I'm pretty sure that Scorpion... Hanzo Hasashi hasn't even been born yet. Neither had either of the Sub-Zero brothers. So back then, Scorpion couldn't have been the Champion of the Elder Gods. Which inidicates that the 'Monster' was the champion of Elder Gods at the time, at least beyond reasonable doubt.
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09/22/2008 08:38 PM (UTC)
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BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:

Because this was when Shujinko was very young, which means Scorpion was probably an infant, or a child back then.
Scorpion only became a Specter 2 years before MK1, and when that happened he was 30 years old. And MK1 didn't come around until Shujinko was old enough to have grey hair.

Scorpion wouldn't have even ended up being their champion if he didn't get sucked into the Soulnado.


Infant?

Scorpion has existed since the age of the great Kung Lao. WTF are you talking about?


You DO realize the Video Game storyline, and the Movie storyline are not one and the same...
That Scorpion existed in the Mortal Kombat Conquest TV series, has nothing to do with the storyline of the video games, where he was born 32 years before MK1.


To Hell with TV shows!

I'm talking about the fact that Scorpion and the original Sub-Zero have been duking it out since before Shujinko was a kid.

Maybe I screwed up a bit on the great Kung Lao part, but Scorpion is a lot older than 32. Hell, Noob Saibot's brother is at least in his late 50s.
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BiohazardEXTREME
09/22/2008 08:41 PM (UTC)
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Where are you getting all of this information from?
It's commonly known that Scorpion and Sub-Zero were 32 years old in MK1.
Yes, the Lin Kuei and Shiari Ryu were enemies for a long time. But this had nothing personal to do with Scorpion and Sub-Zero. The only reason it became personal was because after his death, Scorpion started believing that Sub-Zero destroyed his entire clan.
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Ice_Hearted
09/22/2008 08:43 PM (UTC)
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MKC is uncanon!
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TheAdder
09/22/2008 08:44 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:

Because this was when Shujinko was very young, which means Scorpion was probably an infant, or a child back then.
Scorpion only became a Specter 2 years before MK1, and when that happened he was 30 years old. And MK1 didn't come around until Shujinko was old enough to have grey hair.

Scorpion wouldn't have even ended up being their champion if he didn't get sucked into the Soulnado.


Infant?

Scorpion has existed since the age of the great Kung Lao. WTF are you talking about?


You DO realize the Video Game storyline, and the Movie storyline are not one and the same...
That Scorpion existed in the Mortal Kombat Conquest TV series, has nothing to do with the storyline of the video games, where he was born 32 years before MK1.


To Hell with TV shows!

I'm talking about the fact that Scorpion and the original Sub-Zero have been duking it out since before Shujinko was a kid.

Maybe I screwed up a bit on the great Kung Lao part, but Scorpion is a lot older than 32. Hell, Noob Saibot's brother is at least in his late 50s.


Sorry, wrong again. The first time that Scorpion and SubZ met was 2 years prior to MK1 when they were both hired to steal a map for Quan Chi. Also, younger SubZ is nowhere near 50.
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09/22/2008 08:45 PM (UTC)
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BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:
Where are you getting all of this information from?
It's commonly known that Scorpion and Sub-Zero were 32 years old in MK1.
Yes, the Lin Kuei and Shiari Ryu were enemies for a long time. But this had nothing personal to do with Scorpion and Sub-Zero. The only reason it became personal was because after his death, Scorpion started believing that Sub-Zero destroyed his entire clan.


If I am correct, Scorpion is much older than either Sub-Zero, and he has been leading his clan for decades.

I'm not exactly sure where I got the info from, but it's been lodged into my brain for years. Maybe I got from the comics, hell, I don't know.
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TheAdder
09/22/2008 08:47 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:
Where are you getting all of this information from?
It's commonly known that Scorpion and Sub-Zero were 32 years old in MK1.
Yes, the Lin Kuei and Shiari Ryu were enemies for a long time. But this had nothing personal to do with Scorpion and Sub-Zero. The only reason it became personal was because after his death, Scorpion started believing that Sub-Zero destroyed his entire clan.


If I am correct, Scorpion is much older than either Sub-Zero, and he has been leading his clan for decades.

I'm not exactly sure where I got the info from, but it's been lodged into my brain for years. Maybe I got from the comics, hell, I don't know.


You're not correct, sorry.

Hell, Scorp wasn't even the leader of the Shirai Ryu, just another Ninja grunt.
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