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09/22/2008 08:48 PM (UTC)
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Um yeah going on with the intial subject of the new render that came out and not about Shujinko and MK1 I think the render looks pretty cool Quan Chi looks a little beefed up though lol makes it look like he lost muscle in MK:DA but I still wonder did Scorpion and Sub-Zero fight or not or did Quan Chi interupted before it began
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09/22/2008 08:51 PM (UTC)
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TheAdder Wrote:


You're not correct, sorry.


Ahn, oke-doke.

When it's all said and done, they're all old as hell.

One thing though, if Noob Saibot was only 32 when he met Scorpion, then how in the hell did he train Shujinko 50 years ago? Or is MKDeception not canon? confused
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09/22/2008 08:53 PM (UTC)
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TheAdder Wrote:


You're not correct, sorry.

Hell, Scorp wasn't even the leader of the Shirai Ryu, just another Ninja grunt.

I don't think he was a grunt, I mean, I'm sure he had some status, like Sub-Zero did in his clan. But yeah, he wasn't the leader. Afterall, Quan Chi was the one who killed the leader of Shirai Ryu.

But yes, I think it's a bit off topic. And I'm hoping they were fighting before Quan Chi interrupted them. If not, I'm hoping to see at least one Scorpion vs. Sub-Zero fight in the story mode. I miss the good ol' times when they were sworn enemies.
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TheAdder Wrote:


You're not correct, sorry.


Ahn, oke-doke.

When it's all said and done, they're all old as hell.

One thing though, if Noob Saibot was only 32 when he met Scorpion, then how in the hell did he train Shujinko 50 years ago? Or is MKDeception not canon? confused
Well, many parts of Deception are extremely inconsistent with the storyline. It wasn't very well thought out, if you ask me. But personally, in that particular instance, I count Noob Saibot as just another brother of the shadow. Even if Sub-Zero was much older, he couldn't have been Noob Saibot back then because MK1 hasn't even happened yet. And it wasn't until that tournament that Sub-Zero died and became Noob Saibot in the first place. It was later, when Shujinko returned to Earth Realm that the word of the next Mortal Kombat Tournament even came about. So Sub-Zero wasn't dead by that point in the storyline. But like I said, it's very inconsistent.
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09/22/2008 08:54 PM (UTC)
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LarryL Wrote:
The in-game models in MK vs DC look better than than any other next gen fighter so far.

Nothing personal, but this joke isn't even funny. At least I hope it was a joke.

LarryL Wrote:
SC4, which I have, seems better looking at first glance...

And at second, third, fourth and so on. Seriously, I wouldn't compare MKvsDC to by far the best looking fighter ever. I don't say the upcoming MK looks bad, but still. SC4 is out of its league.
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09/22/2008 09:01 PM (UTC)
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BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:
TheAdder Wrote:


You're not correct, sorry.

Hell, Scorp wasn't even the leader of the Shirai Ryu, just another Ninja grunt.

I don't think he was a grunt, I mean, I'm sure he had some status, like Sub-Zero did in his clan. But yeah, he wasn't the leader. Afterall, Quan Chi was the one who killed the leader of Shirai Ryu.

But yes, I think it's a bit off topic. And I'm hoping they were fighting before Quan Chi interrupted them. If not, I'm hoping to see at least one Scorpion vs. Sub-Zero fight in the story mode. I miss the good ol' times when they were sworn enemies.

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Well, Technically scorpion only has a grudge with the older Sub-Zero not this one.


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09/22/2008 09:06 PM (UTC)
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Well, back on topic, since Quan Chi is in this game, it could not be based between MK2 and MK3, seeing that Quan Chi did not gain those markings until MKDA, though my bio shows differently. grin
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09/22/2008 09:06 PM (UTC)
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VenomMelendez Wrote:



Well, Technically scorpion only has a grudge with the older Sub-Zero not this one.




Yeah, but then in MK4, Quan Chi led Scorpion to try and kill the younger Sub-Zero too, so that battle re-emerged in that title.
I just always thought they were good as enemies.
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Well, back on topic, since Quan Chi is in this game, it could not be based between MK2 and MK3, seeing that Quan Chi did not gain those markings until MKDA, though my bio shows differently. grin
Yet again... Something inconsistent on behalf of the MK team.
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09/22/2008 09:11 PM (UTC)
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EDIT: My bad.
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09/22/2008 09:12 PM (UTC)
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New theory. Whatever is responsible for the merge doesn't simply affect the two universes into becoming one, also the space time continuum gets messed up, thus Scorpion and Sub-Zero are meeting future Quan Chi. grin
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09/22/2008 09:14 PM (UTC)
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Nathan Wrote:
New theory. Whatever is responsible for the merge doesn't simply affect the two universes into becoming one, also the space time continuum gets messed up, thus Scorpion and Sub-Zero are meeting future Quan Chi. grin


I didn't disregard that possibility. Frankly, I'm hoping that is the case, so that Quan Chi's outfit is actually explained.
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09/22/2008 09:17 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
Well, back on topic, since Quan Chi is in this game, it could not be based between MK2 and MK3, seeing that Quan Chi did not gain those markings until MKDA, though my bio shows differently. grin


Not really.

Quan Chi has been active since before the first game started as seen in mythologies. I mean it was him who pitted the orginal Sub-Zero and Scopion agaisnt eachother.

So really it doesn't prove anything


Also, he had his tats in MK:SM which was during MK2 timeline. You'd probably say that SM wasn't canon....but then niether is this game.

Also, it was probably easier to pass Quan Chi's costume from DA then making a new one especially if he's just there as a cameo.

Still, good to know he shows up in some capacity.
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09/22/2008 09:20 PM (UTC)
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VenomMelendez Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:

Also, it was probably easier to pass Quan Chi's costume from DA then making a new one especially if he's just there as a cameo.

And that's what passes in Midway these days, huh.... What's easier.
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09/22/2008 09:21 PM (UTC)
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You merge Universes, you might as well mess with time while you're at it.

There's actually an Avengers Vs. JLA comic, where the worlds were starting to merge as well, but somehow time was affected as well. And you had present time heroes fighting side-by-side with heroes from the past as well as the future. It was just one big mess.

Now that I think about it, it would be totally awesome to have characters meet their future or past selves.
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09/22/2008 09:22 PM (UTC)
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VenomMelendez Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
Well, back on topic, since Quan Chi is in this game, it could not be based between MK2 and MK3, seeing that Quan Chi did not gain those markings until MKDA, though my bio shows differently. grin


Not really.

Quan Chi has been active since before the first game started as seen in mythologies. I mean it was him who pitted the orginal Sub-Zero and Scopion agaisnt eachother.

So really it doesn't prove anything


Also, he had his tats in MK:SM which was during MK2 timeline. You'd probably say that SM wasn't canon....but then niether is this game.

Also, it was probably easier to pass Quan Chi's costume from DA then making a new one especially if he's just there as a cameo.

Still, good to know he shows up in some capacity.


Oh, I know he's been around forever.

He founded the Brotherhood of Shadow. Anyhoo, why are they even giving him that damn costume? Aren't they supposed to be starting from scratch?
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09/22/2008 09:23 PM (UTC)
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Nathan Wrote:
You merge with Universes, you might as well mess with time while you're at it.

There's actually and Avengers Vs. JLA comic, where the worlds were starting to merge as well, but somehow time was affected as well. And you had present time heroes fighting side-by-side with heroes from the past as well as the future. It was just one big mess.

Now that I think about it, it would be totally awesome to have characters meet their future or past selves.


Past Sub-Zero: Hey! You're me... What looks to be around thirty years in the future!

Future Sub-Zero: No... You just end up aging really quickly because of a dragon medallion...

Past Sub-Zero: Well shit...
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09/22/2008 09:28 PM (UTC)
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Or how about past Quan Chi working together with future Quan Chi? And then future Quan Chi gets screwed over by his past self. Now that would be hilarious.

But to avoid any kind of paradox, let's just bring parallel universes with into the game. So we can have like 5 Quan Chi's from different worlds working together and they each try to backstab each other.
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09/22/2008 09:31 PM (UTC)
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Nathan Wrote:
Or how about past Quan Chi working together with future Quan Chi? And then future Quan Chi gets screwed over by his past self. Now that would be hilarious.

But to avoid any kind of paradox, let's just bring parallel universes with into the game. So we can have like 5 Quan Chi's from different worlds working together and they each try to backstab each other.


That would be hilarious.
They should just make a game called "Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Quan Chi" where every character is a different version of Quan Chi.
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09/22/2008 09:31 PM (UTC)
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Nathan Wrote:
Or how about past Quan Chi working together with future Quan Chi? And then future Quan Chi gets screwed over by his past self. Now that would be hilarious.

But to avoid any kind of paradox, let's just bring parallel universes with into the game. So we can have like 5 Quan Chi's from different worlds working together and they each try to backstab each other.


Oh God no.

Let's just stick to what we have:

Scorpion's crying
Kano's dying
Sbu-Zero's climbing
Quan Chi's cameo announcement made perfect timing. grin
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09/22/2008 09:33 PM (UTC)
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Quan Chi: "I will be The One!"

Ok... I guess I'll stop now.
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09/22/2008 09:39 PM (UTC)
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VenomMelendez Wrote:Also, it was probably easier to pass Quan Chi's costume from DA then making a new one especially if he's just there as a cameo.


Again, proving my statement that the Midway team is fucking lazy. It's sad when you're such a fan of this series and see the makers half-ass the game.
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09/22/2008 09:40 PM (UTC)
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And hey, I guess that outfit COULD change. I mean, back when we saw the trailers of Armageddon, watching the footage of the Konquest mode, Sub-Zero had his Deception outfit on. But in the final version, he's wearing his MKDA outfit.
Althought it's unlikely, since remaking the 3D model would be kind of inefficient, but you never know.
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09/22/2008 09:41 PM (UTC)
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TheOmniOni Wrote:
VenomMelendez Wrote:Also, it was probably easier to pass Quan Chi's costume from DA then making a new one especially if he's just there as a cameo.


Again, proving my statement that the Midway team is fucking lazy. It's sad when you're such a fan of this series and see the makers half-ass the game.


Don't worry, I will create a fighting game that will satisfy all your gaming needs!

As soon as I get my degree.
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09/22/2008 09:43 PM (UTC)
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So when will you people learn that continuity and preserving plot elements means precisely DICK to the MK team?
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09/22/2008 09:45 PM (UTC)
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TrueNoob Wrote:
So when will you people learn that continuity and preserving plot elements means precisely DICK to the MK team?

So does that mean that we should be happy about it?
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09/22/2008 09:47 PM (UTC)
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BiohazardEXTREME Wrote:
TrueNoob Wrote:
So when will you people learn that continuity and preserving plot elements means precisely DICK to the MK team?

So does that mean that we should be happy about it?



No, of course not. But why argue about things that show you've obviously put more thought into the franchise than the dickheads who have control over it ever will?
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